Bruce Lee streetfight [Archive]

DLT

02-25-2005, 01:56 AM

He never lost to anyone in a stret fight. That was just a rumor like the hundreds there are. Some used to say that he got killed in a street fight or the old chinese guys put some kind of spell on him or he got poisned. The guy was for real though. All of his fighting scenes in the movies were slowed down for TV so you know he must have been super fast. Everywhere he went people would challenge him to a fight and none of them would win. Even Bolo (the big chinese guy in all of those karate movies like Blood Sport) even challenged and fought him in real life and lost. I havent seen any straight up footage of him in a real fight but alot of credible people have said he was great and why would the lie. Even Kareem Abdul Jabbar said that he was amazing. You can even look at his movies and tell that he was awsome. They look much better then Jackie Chan. When I was locked up, I knew a Vietnamese guy from Nam and he said that the chubby guy that used to play on Nash Bridges was also very good and would kill Jackie Chan. He also verified to me the Lee was for real

oldgringo

02-25-2005, 02:24 AM

anyone who knows anything about real fighting knows he was a fraud. Like I said therre is zero footage of him in any real events.

He never fought or competed in any real tournements.

You don't know what he couldn't do just like we don't know what he could do. Like you said, theres no footage of him in any real event, so for you to sit here and say, "he's such a huge fraud" and act like the authority on Bruce Lee is bogus. It's ALL speculation. Maybe he could kick ass for real and maybe he couldn't. What we do know about him is that he was extremely strong for his size, very quick, and was very well balanced.

You base everything and it's mother off of MMA or fighters you have seen from some form of mixed martial arts. Hey, theres probably some guy who could have beaten Michael Jordan 1 on 1 (and this is coming from a Nike head who is Jordan's biggest fan), but we'll never know because it was never proven in a real event. It's all speculation.

Soko

02-25-2005, 02:35 AM

Tyson in his prime vs Bruce Lee on the street Im going with Mike.. Mike hits that little nip barefisted and breaks everybone in his face.. Dude I bet that redneck on here who punched the watermelon would KO Bruce Lee too..

Sir_Jose

02-25-2005, 02:54 AM

You don't know what he couldn't do just like we don't know what he could do. Like you said, theres no footage of him in any real event, so for you to sit here and say, "he's such a huge fraud" and act like the authority on Bruce Lee is bogus. It's ALL speculation. Maybe he could kick ass for real and maybe he couldn't. What we do know about him is that he was extremely strong for his size, very quick, and was very well balanced.

You base everything and it's mother off of MMA or fighters you have seen from some form of mixed martial arts. Hey, theres probably some guy who could have beaten Michael Jordan 1 on 1 (and this is coming from a Nike head who is Jordan's biggest fan), but we'll never know because it was never proven in a real event. It's all speculation.

If someone was to come on and tell me that basketball player is the greatest player of all time then I would call him a fraud aswell.

His fans claim he was this amaizng fighter yet have ZERO proof of any of it except rumors and old stories. There is no footage of any of this there is no actual proof.

If a guy came up to you and told you he had a boxer who was an all time great and a legend. What would you say? you would say great let me see him. Then you get get told well he's never actually fought in a real fight, but I can show you footage of him doing push ups and hitiing the bag, would you be convinced that boxer is a legend and an all time great? hell no you would laugh.

How on earth can you be a great fighter without having any fights? Everything is based on theory and what if's. Its not that there is no footage its the fact that he never even entered anything.

Soko

02-25-2005, 03:05 AM

If someone was to come on and tell me that basketball player is the greatest player of all time then I would call him a fraud aswell.

His fans claim he was this amaizng fighter yet have ZERO proof of any of it except rumors and old stories. There is no footage of any of this there is no actual proof.

If a guy came up to you and told you he had a boxer who was an all time great and a legend. What would you say? you would say great let me see him. Then you get get told well he's never actually fought in a real fight, but I can show you footage of him doing push ups and hitiing the bag, would you be convinced that boxer is a legend and an all time great? hell no you would laugh.

How on earth can you be a great fighter without having any fights? Everything is based on theory and what if's. Its not that there is no footage its the fact that he never even entered anything.

Jose is about to get flamed by the Bruce Lee nuthuggers..

DLT

02-25-2005, 03:06 AM

If someone was to come on and tell me that basketball player is the greatest player of all time then I would call him a fraud aswell.

His fans claim he was this amaizng fighter yet have ZERO proof of any of it except rumors and old stories. There is no footage of any of this there is no actual proof.

If a guy came up to you and told you he had a boxer who was an all time great and a legend. What would you say? you would say great let me see him. Then you get get told well he's never actually fought in a real fight, but I can show you footage of him doing push ups and hitiing the bag, would you be convinced that boxer is a legend and an all time great? hell no you would laugh.

How on earth can you be a great fighter without having any fights? Everything is based on theory and what if's. Its not that there is no footage its the fact that he never even entered anything.
How do you know that theres not any footage. Just because you and I dont have any, doesnt mean that it doesnt exist. Im sure there are some people with footage. He also had some famous students that he did teach that said he was great including Kareem

MikeHunt

02-25-2005, 03:44 AM

Prostitroop

02-25-2005, 04:39 AM

What? Bruce Lee a fraud? He is the creator of the deadly martial art, Jeet Kune Do

AintGottaClue

02-25-2005, 09:54 AM

bruce lee has to much honor and dignity to fight a street fight this is

:bsflag:

Atwa_66

02-25-2005, 10:01 AM

I agree with Jose, show me a fight where Bruce Lee was messing someone up....oh you can't because there is none? If he was as great of a fighter as he and everyone claimed he was, then why did hw have a problem with showing some of his skills in a fight? If he was god at martial arts, he would have done some tournaments at least.

bombshell

02-25-2005, 10:09 AM

bruce lee the legend continues, there are many speculations about him. but one thing more he became a legend from one who believes he's one who's having a rare factor comparing to others,taking about martial arts. we don't knew about him outside the scene who was bruce lee is! i let you be the one to answer that.

BrooklynBomber

02-25-2005, 11:13 AM

He was an actor not a fighter. If he never fought does not matter how good he is in his movies he is still not a fighter just an actor who learned some circus moves and flashes them in movies. With that kindof logic you can say Keany Reeves is the G.O.A.T. but that is Bulll****. Oh and btw he is not as fast as he is described he was just fast compared to other actors in action sequences not let me see him get fast in the ring with PBF
or Meldrick Tayor or Sweet Pea.

abdiel2k3

02-25-2005, 11:43 AM

puppy_dogg

02-25-2005, 11:44 AM

greatest of all time = g.o.a.t

IwatchBoxing

02-25-2005, 11:46 AM

Bruce Lee was a master of the arts, they dont pride themselfs of being bullies, or fighting in front of crowds, they pride themselfs in teaching others to defend themselfs, to pass the art down generations. He would fight, just to show whos skill was better, its all about honor.

bigdlb12

02-25-2005, 12:18 PM

Bruce Lee was the real deal, now Bruce LeRoy wasnt, B.L.

oldgringo

02-25-2005, 12:34 PM

Bruce Lee was the real deal, now Bruce LeRoy wasnt, B.L.

"BRUCE LEROY!!!!" "WHO'S THE MASTER??" sho nuff....

theironone

02-25-2005, 12:37 PM

i'd say this is BBBUUUULLL**** MR HAN MAN!!!!

abdiel2k3

02-25-2005, 12:38 PM

o bruce leroy u have good hair
do u have indian in ur family?

puppy_dogg

02-25-2005, 12:40 PM

bruce lee vs pai mei

oldgringo

02-25-2005, 12:41 PM

Have another hit bro...............now your just being silly. Some one could beat MJ 1 on 1 LOL LOL LOL LOL

Okay pass me the blunt.

abdiel2k3

02-25-2005, 12:41 PM

bruce lee vs pai mei
i heard mei is krazee
ive seen footage of him fighten some blond chick
shes even usin a sword
and he totally kicks her ass
i pick Pai Mei

oldgringo

02-25-2005, 12:43 PM

i heard mei is krazee
ive seen footage of him fighten some blond chick
shes even usin a sword
and he totally kicks her ass
i pick Pai Mei

He can stand on peoples swords....and he can pull you to the ground and tickle the **** outta you with his long ass beard.

bigdlb12

02-25-2005, 12:43 PM

"BRUCE LEROY!!!!" "WHO'S THE MASTER??" sho nuff....
well done grass hopper

oldgringo

02-25-2005, 12:45 PM

well done grass hopper

mmmmm.....wheres Vanity. She was a dime piece.

abdiel2k3

02-25-2005, 12:46 PM

He can stand on peoples swords....and he can pull you to the ground and tickle the **** outta you with his long ass beard.
he can rip ur eye out too

oldgringo

02-25-2005, 12:50 PM

Alright well I'm out for about a week and a half or so for spring break. Take er easy everyone. Jose...Ben Wallace and Bruce Lee own you. :D

Cotto's going to stop Corley inside of 9. If it goes to the cards: 118-110, 117-111, 117-111 in favor of Cotto

elveiel

02-25-2005, 12:54 PM

There is no footage of Bruce Lee in any real fight everything is just rumors and hear say. The guy is the biggest fraud in the history of fighting.

I agree, unless someone shows me him in a real fight i wont believe the hype.

puppy_dogg

02-25-2005, 12:59 PM

i heard mei is krazee
ive seen footage of him fighten some blond chick
shes even usin a sword
and he totally kicks her ass
i pick Pai Mei

you gotta give it to the blonde chick though, she was ****in hot. i liked her booty

m00ks

02-25-2005, 01:09 PM

anyone who knows anything about real fighting knows he was a fraud. Like I said therre is zero footage of him in any real events.

He never fought or competed in any real tournements.

Actually i saw one of his demonstrations of the 3 inch punch or something like that on TV, where he extends and pushes your fingers to someones chest then SNAP! he makes a fist and punches the guy. The man needed medical attention. I don't think he's fake at all.

Iwatchboxing nailed it when he said that BL never fought for fame and fortune. When he came to America, I think he opened a school. He was more about learning, perfecting and teaching his Martial Arts rather than being on the limelight of prizefighting of any sort. But man oh man I still wouldn't mess with him.

m00ks

02-25-2005, 01:13 PM

puppy_dogg

02-25-2005, 01:15 PM

http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/504/8918Bruce_Lee_1_inch_punch_and_2_finger_pushup.mpg

Bruce is my DOGG!

m00ks

02-25-2005, 01:18 PM

http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/504/8918Bruce_Lee_1_inch_punch_and_2_finger_pushup.mpg

Bruce is my DOGG!

LOL Go yoko! Nice video. Daym, anybody else wanna tell me this guy is fake?

Chups

02-25-2005, 01:21 PM

Here we go again with a Bruce Lee topic...you guys are just gonna piss off JOSE.....LOL.

m00ks

02-25-2005, 01:22 PM

Here we go again with a Bruce Lee topic...you guys are just gonna piss off JOSE.....LOL.

lol he's always pissed off :D

Sir_Jose

02-25-2005, 01:30 PM

jack_the_rippuh

02-25-2005, 01:40 PM

There is no footage of Bruce Lee in any real fight everything is just rumors and hear say. The guy is the biggest fraud in the history of fighting.

Frank Dux deserves that title.

ClydeErwinBarretto

02-25-2005, 01:41 PM

People here complain about how there was no footage if even there was a fight. Well, I don't think people went around video taping fights in the 70s. And in the 60s - 70s Asians were not even looked at by the media or taken seriously by Americans...they were mostly ridiculed.

Now coming from someone who has done martial arts for around 16 years (shotokan karate, goju karate, kyukoshinkai karate, tae kwon do, ai ki do, wing chun, eagle claw kung fu, a little of jujitsu and yes boxing too) I of course know there were TONS of predacessors to Bruce Lee who impacted and influenced martial arts (Mas Oyama, Chojun Miyagi, Morihei Ueshiba, Jigaro Kano, etc) I will say that Bruce Lee was the one to really break the barriers in the mixing of martial arts and broke through traditional training methods and ideas...so now we have UFC, Pride, etc

HE TRAINED atheletes such as CHUCK NORRIS (9-time kick boxing champion), Kareem Abul Jabar (you know who he is) and others like James Garner & Steve McQueen. Unlike his later contemporaries Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Donnie Yen, etc. he actually trained in martial arts to further himself in the arts rather than strictly for performing. To be honest people like Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Donnie Yen are faster than him but would have lost to him in a fight easily.

But it would really be fascinating to watch him fight in the ligther weights against Pacquio, Morales, Barrera, etc. He was 5'7" 1/2 around 135lbs and an unnatural south paw. He also had ridiculous footwork as well as a quick jab and fundamentally was solid and a lot of his methods primarily worked on counter fighting. So he probably would've been a methodical coutner boxer with good power. Oh yeah, he trained in boxing too.

Taking away any credit he has to have furthered martial arts and fightin in general would be silly. That's like saying Dr. J didn't influence basketball just because Michael Jordan blow up 1,000 fold than he did.

puppy_dogg

02-25-2005, 01:45 PM

i heard bruce was only 120lbs
but how do you know all those guys are faster than bruce was?
he looked like lighting to me

Chups

02-25-2005, 01:51 PM

It depends on what age he was or when ...but he was a little less than a 150 lbs before he died.

elveiel

02-25-2005, 01:52 PM

No Bruce Lee was not a marial Artist before he was an actor. Bruce Lee was an actor before he was a Martial Artist he was a child actor.

That one inch punch is a trick. Look at the guy's feet he's completely squared up and has no balance and anyone who watches boxing can tell you it doesn't take anything to knock someone down when they are squared up.

I normally prefer to argue with Jose because he can give it back well, but it looks like i have to agree with him again. :D

Any Bruce Lee fans thinks Jackie Chan is a unbeatable machine? IMO their exactly the same.

Cletus Funk

02-25-2005, 01:57 PM

I normally prefer to argue with Jose because he can give it back well, but it looks like i have to agree with him again. :D

Any Bruce Lee fans thinks Jackie Chan is a unbeatable machine? IMO their exactly the same.

Take that back, Jackie Chan sucks ass. :D

I don't know how realistic it is but there's a film about his life called "Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story" which has him as a genuine martial artist way before getting into acting.

Sir_Jose

02-25-2005, 02:05 PM

Chups

02-25-2005, 02:06 PM

I normally prefer to argue with Jose because he can give it back well, but it looks like i have to agree with him again. :D

Any Bruce Lee fans thinks Jackie Chan is a unbeatable machine? IMO their exactly the same.

Jackie Chan was an acrobat/stuntman....he just makes flashy moves and funny movies. He is not with the same league as Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee was a Martial Arts teacher and Philosopher rather than a fighter.
The only thing common between them is that they are both actors.

Chups

02-25-2005, 02:08 PM

all those boxers you listed KO 1 Bruce Lee.

Hahahaha first time I heard you pick Pacman in a fight...LOL. That makes you an anti-Bruce more than an anti-pac...... :D :D

ClydeErwinBarretto

02-25-2005, 02:15 PM

He started Wing Chun at age 13. That's pretty young. I am not sure how old he was when he first started acting but from 13-33 is a pretty long study in martial arts.

Chups

02-25-2005, 02:16 PM

He started Wing Chun at age 13. That's pretty young. I am not sure how old he was when he first started acting but from 13-33 is a pretty long study in martial arts.

His whole family was in theatre...he had cameo roles when he was 5 yrs. old.

ClydeErwinBarretto

02-25-2005, 02:17 PM

You dont think people video taped fights in the 70's? Man it was the 1970's not 1870's.

Bruce Lee had about as much to do with the invention of MMA as I did. Fighters have always crossed trained just not as advanced as they do now.The term MMA didn't even come into play till the late 90's years after his death.

Nobody is arguing his influence on fighting, its his credentials as a fighter people question. Its pretty easy to question them considering he doesn't have any.

all those boxers you listed KO 1 Bruce Lee.
So are you also going to question all of the other founders of other martial arts styles and schools because they did not compete in professional fights? or because their fights were not video taped?

m00ks

02-25-2005, 02:19 PM

I normally prefer to argue with Jose because he can give it back well, but it looks like i have to agree with him again. :D

Any Bruce Lee fans thinks Jackie Chan is a unbeatable machine? IMO their exactly the same.

I like how jackie chan seems to be capable of climbing any wall, fence, tree or what not. Teh guy is a monkey but it's cool how gets up and over places. He uses a lot of everyday object s as well in his choreography.

ClydeErwinBarretto

02-25-2005, 02:19 PM

Hahahaha first time I heard you pick Pacman in a fight...LOL. That makes you an anti-Bruce more than an anti-pac...... :D :D
I'm actually PRO PAC...and PRO BRUCE...I said it would be fascinating to watch them fight. But just like all the what IFs on this board...no one will ever know.

Chups

02-25-2005, 02:24 PM

Watch...Ima learn the 5 finger technique from PAI MEI, so I can prove you haters all wrong!! :D

ClydeErwinBarretto

02-25-2005, 02:24 PM

You dont think people video taped fights in the 70's? Man it was the 1970's not 1870's.

Bruce Lee had about as much to do with the invention of MMA as I did. Fighters have always crossed trained just not as advanced as they do now.The term MMA didn't even come into play till the late 90's years after his death.

Nobody is arguing his influence on fighting, its his credentials as a fighter people question. Its pretty easy to question them considering he doesn't have any.

all those boxers you listed KO 1 Bruce Lee.
Oh yeah, that's why I've trained in three different "MMA" schools and yet for some odd reason they have the word JET KUNE DO and pictures of BRUCE LEE all over their schools as influence...mmmm? Maybe they just liked his movies or something.

puppy_dogg

02-25-2005, 02:28 PM

Watch...Ima learn the 5 finger technique from PAI MEI, so I can prove you haters all wrong!! :D

that was the ****!

puppy_dogg

02-25-2005, 02:37 PM

knowing is not enough, we must apply
willing is not enough, we must do

-Bruce Lee

BrooklynBomber

02-25-2005, 02:47 PM

m00ks

02-25-2005, 02:50 PM

I saw the famous 3 inch punch long time before. Actually there is not much of a trick. And it is rediculous to say that he hits harder than boxers of his weight. The point of a punch is not to push away your opponenet but to knock him out. thats way clean ko looks like the guy just collapses like a bag with sand. If any fighter will punch like Bruce Lee he will end up getting beat:
1st is because these punches only do some damage if you are lucky enough to land on some special spots(real punches will do much more damage)
2nd: when you push rather than punch you loose your coordination and balance.
There are many more reasonss why boxers punch rather than push and why Bruse Lee will end up getting Koncked the **** out but I am tired of typing. Props to Jose in not to giving in to Hype of Asian Martial arts.

lol I don't think it's a mere HYPE if it lasted for ages :D

Chups

02-25-2005, 02:52 PM

Props to Jose in not to giving in to Hype of Asian Martial arts.

Asian Martial arts? That's very ingrate of you. Martial arts came from Asia...now that it was taught to everybody else you feel you have your own huh?

PAI MEI will spank you! :D

puppy_dogg

02-25-2005, 02:54 PM

bruce's thing was the "one inch punch". he did the 3 to but the 3 is mostly for starters. watch the video i put up, thats from only an inch away.

puppy_dogg

02-25-2005, 02:55 PM

pai mei would rip his eye out

BrooklynBomber

02-25-2005, 02:59 PM

Asian Martial arts? That's very ingrate of you. Martial arts came from Asia...now that it was taught to everybody else you feel you have your own huh?

PAI MEI will spank you! :D
Got nothing against martial arts but its just I think they wee developed for unarmed person to fight and defend against armed foe. And Neo will rip Pai Mei's ass :D

Chups

02-25-2005, 03:03 PM

Got nothing against martial arts but its just I think they wee developed for unarmed person to fight and defend against armed foe. And Neo will rip Pai Mei's ass :D
The Wu Tang Clan owns Neo! :D

ClydeErwinBarretto

02-25-2005, 03:28 PM

I saw the famous 3 inch punch long time before. Actually there is not much of a trick. And it is rediculous to say that he hits harder than boxers of his weight. The point of a punch is not to push away your opponenet but to knock him out. thats way clean ko looks like the guy just collapses like a bag with sand. If any fighter will punch like Bruce Lee he will end up getting beat:
1st is because these punches only do some damage if you are lucky enough to land on some special spots(real punches will do much more damage)
2nd: when you push rather than punch you loose your coordination and balance.
There are many more reasonss why boxers punch rather than push and why Bruse Lee will end up getting Koncked the **** out but I am tired of typing. Props to Jose in not to giving in to Hype of Asian Martial arts.
See you people are also missing something. The "3 inch punch" was for show. Do you know any other boxers that can do that? Have you ever seen anything else other than that video that has been shown a billion times? Have you ever seen him do his bag work or any of his punching? I have and let's say the man knows how to punch properly.

Hype of Asian Martial arts? What hype? It's been around you know...before JESUS.

BrooklynBomber

02-25-2005, 03:39 PM

Just like early version of boxing was around before the roman empire. In Fact there is an evidence that there was boxing in Babylon and even earlier. Most of the people got me wrong. I dont say that Asian Martial arts are inferior to boxing(boxing is also a martial art) I say that they are overrated and if lets say Karate had the same system as boxing(12 round bouts, full contact) only than we could compare the fighters from both schools. Before that you can not compare somebody who gets about 3 or 4 times in a whole bout to somebody who gets hit 200--300 tomes in about and fights much more often. I also think that some of the martial arts are overated because I knew couple of martial artists and they got mugged in my neighboorhood just like everybofy else. and their skills did not help them to repel the attack.

m00ks

02-25-2005, 03:41 PM

well when at gunpoint martial arts can go to the trash

BrooklynBomber

02-25-2005, 03:45 PM

Ha-Ha No ****. I remember though that Mike Tyson was once threatend with a gun. It was something likethe guy said to Tyson
" you are fast Mike, but you are not faster than the bullet" so
mike ends ****ing the guy up but the funny thing is that the guy did not have the gun. Maybe just another urban legend but I read this story in a newspaper.

ClydeErwinBarretto

02-25-2005, 03:45 PM

Well, there's also a difference between a martial artist and some kid that has been taking martial arts. It's a whole mental state as well not just physical. This is the reason why someone like BOB SAPP has been beaten by people smaller than him or why in the earlier versions of the UFC smaller guys have dominated bigger guys and there were fights that were going for 30mins straight...no patching up, no vaseline, no ice, etc.

Well, they do actually have karate tournaments but since they do not wear gloves and in some tournaments (kyukoshinkai tournaments) and there is no weight limit they therefore can not actually go 12 rounds. They'd probably end up killing each other. You guys should check out some older Muay Thai fights as well.

ClydeErwinBarretto

02-25-2005, 03:47 PM

I remember this too. But believe me people with guns are just as nervous as the person they are trying to shoot...and I think Mike Tyson attacked him and his girlfriend or something like that...this was pretty recent.

Chups

02-25-2005, 03:49 PM

PAI MEI can dodge em bullets, hold and eat em in your face. :D

I better stop this pai mei thing it's getting old. :D

ClydeErwinBarretto

02-25-2005, 03:52 PM

PAI MEI can dodge em bullets, hold and eat em in your face. :D

I better stop this pai mei thing it's getting old. :D
Don't forget...so can NEO, Dare Devil, Elektra, Batman...who have all done martial arts...well, in their respective movies.

Chups

02-25-2005, 03:56 PM

Don't forget...so can NEO, Dare Devil, Elektra, Batman...who have all done martial arts...well, in their respective movies.

Batman is just an ordinary human with no super powers. Relies on gadgets that magically hits it's target at the right time. Therefore he can't dodge bullets.

Sir_Jose

02-25-2005, 04:04 PM

The reason Bob Sapp gets beat by guys who are smaller than him is because h has zero talent and is nothing more than a sideshow. Bob Sapp is nothing more than the Butterbean of MMA.

Smaller guys did not dominate MMA early on Grapplers did no matter what size they were because its the most effect form of fighting. We still have never seen any of these Kung-Fu, Jeet-Kune-Do type fighter have any kind of success because that stuff doesn't work.

ClydeErwinBarretto

02-25-2005, 04:04 PM

Batman is just an ordinary human with no super powers. Relies on gadgets that magically hits it's target at the right time. Therefore he can't dodge bullets.
haha...well, he did in the comic & cartoon! I do remember that...but he did do martial arts...

MikeHunt

02-25-2005, 05:38 PM

LOL Go yoko! Nice video. Daym, anybody else wanna tell me this guy is fake?

Attention please: HE'S A FAKE

elveiel

02-25-2005, 05:58 PM

Take that back, Jackie Chan sucks ass. :D

I don't know how realistic it is but there's a film about his life called "Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story" which has him as a genuine martial artist way before getting into acting.

I dont know realistic it is but there's a film about colin farrells life called Alexander, he's a real warrior who kills lots of people :rolleyes: :D

Seriously mate, i dont have a clue about how Bruce Lee made it on to the big screen but i'm not impressed by Martial Arts, especially when i havent seen Bruce Lee fight.

m00ks

02-25-2005, 06:31 PM

Attention please: HE'S A FAKE

prove it :cool:

MikeHunt

02-25-2005, 07:28 PM

prove it :cool:

Prove it? Have you ever looked at the credits after one of his movies?? He didn't do his own stunts.

Dyl-G

02-25-2005, 07:37 PM

Showstoppa

03-05-2005, 04:12 PM

Bruce lee is a legend and nobody can take that away from him no matter what. From generation to generation bruce lee's legend will live forever. 100 years from now when WE are gone he will still live through the living legend that he is. I have the up most respect for the guy. I have seen footage of him curl a 45 pound bar with a plate on each side with one arm. That is 135 pounds. No joke! he curled that son of a *****. And to tell you the truth if Bruce lee was to fight any boxer he would whoop their ass becasue martial arts is much more complicated and you can use your feet. Bruce would be able to dodge any boxer's punches with ease and counter it. That's what martial arts is about. Now if you were to say only boxing for bruce lee vs. Morales then the story might be a little different. My point is Lee would whoop anybody's ass using his martial arts and could IMO hang with people in his weight division by just boxing. I

adrsan84

03-05-2005, 05:16 PM

I saw some show about him yesterdy on amc, they had some footage of him at a tournament and he was whooppin some foo's ass. they also showed some footage for one of his movies where he was moving at full speed and he is fast as hell. Not to mention he is ripped like an animal, i think he was for real but i cant be sure.

MlLkMan

03-05-2005, 06:56 PM

lol
ya but thats cuz he was too good to fight people
he woulda killed them
:D

hahhahahhahhahahahah

tino

03-05-2005, 07:12 PM

to be the best , you have to beat the best ?

did he ? NO

is he an impressive guy , a chinese immigrant who came to america with nothing and became a world wide icon ? YES

and this is one billion time more respectable and impressive than kickin a bouncer ass.

Sara

03-05-2005, 08:06 PM

One cool athlete-martial artist, but who knows on the fighting.
So whats with the Bolo guy someone mentioned from the Bloodsport movie? Was he a real fighter?

Konstantin

03-05-2005, 11:02 PM

He is a martial artist... im not sure if hes a pro, but he was also in enter the dragon which is an awesome brucelee movie I would recomend it to anyone

Sir_Jose

03-05-2005, 11:58 PM

no one can say bruce lee is fake just because no one has footage of him its not like anyone was walking around with video cameras in the 70s **** no one even had video cameras. and if you knew who bruce lee was would you want to pick a fight with him? i doubt he went around looking for fights anyways. no one knows and no one will.

Then would you like to explain how they made Bruce Lee movies if video cameras did not exist?

Or why we have footage of Ray Robinson, Ali, Jim Brown, Bill Russell...etc?

Sir_Jose

03-06-2005, 12:00 AM

Ranger2408

03-06-2005, 12:02 AM

Then would you like to explain how they made Bruce Lee movies if video cameras did not exist?

Or why we have footage of Ray Robinson, Ali, Jim Brown, Bill Russell...etc?
what he means jose is amateur footage
this is a thread about streetfighting right?

Sir_Jose

03-06-2005, 12:05 AM

what he means jose is amateur footage
this is a thread about streetfighting right?

There is no amature or pro footage of Bruce Lee not because of a shortage of video cameras, but because he never actually had any fights. He never entered a single tournement.

Colonel Jones

03-06-2005, 12:05 AM

I'm glad to know that their are a lot of people who know that Bruce Lee is just a bunch of over-hyped bull****. His skills are about as real as Rocky Balboa. Dusty Rhodes for that matter. Most of marshall arts is crap anyway. Everyone I've ever known who took karate or something, always ended up with a black belt. This means one thing: YOu keep "PAYING" your monthly dues, and they'll keep give you your stupid little colored belt. Funny how not everyone who takes up boxing ends up at the top, but Karate people do. What a sham. Martial arts suck.

Konstantin

03-06-2005, 12:23 AM

Um its just plain stupid to think that belts mean nothing... maybe in America they give them away for cash but it can be a serious thing. And was a hell of a lot more real than Rocky Balboa, you just have to see anyone of his movies to see that. And if you start talking about movies can make anyone look good why dont you actually watch any of the Rocky movies and tell me how real they look.

stonehenge

06-01-2005, 07:29 AM

yes ...but the director says you shouldn't lose this as you are the leading man of the movie...:D

guru

06-01-2005, 07:59 AM

Martial Arts are a joke. A world class boxewr would destroy and Martial Artist with ease. All that fancy ****...guess what? It dont work in the real world.

lol, tell that ray mercer, nbotha, briggs, vince phillips or any of the other boxers who have been KO'd

look at this clip

guru

06-01-2005, 08:15 AM

here it is

simeraksou

06-01-2005, 08:48 AM

There is no amature or pro footage of Bruce Lee not because of a shortage of video cameras, but because he never actually had any fights. He never entered a single tournement.
Jose, obviously you know very little about bruce lee or martial arts, besides boxing. Boxing is very effective in a standup fight but on the ground the pure boxer would lose quite easily, especially to someone skilled in something like jujitsu.

As for bruce lee, he developed his own system of fighting. His skills and IQ (including fighting IQ) are well above any boxer--you can tell this by his philosophies on fighting. Also, many of his students became world champions. I have also seen footage of him training on the heavy bag (punching and kicking), training with his students including kareem abdul jabar and chuck norris. He's lightning fast. Believe me, his kick is faster than a boxer's punch. That's pretty amazing. And he did street fight in his younger days, I've seen one footage of it in a documentary and he owned!

simeraksou

06-01-2005, 08:51 AM

Oh, and ray mercer and francois botha lost in K-1 kickboxing fights.

PunchDrunk

06-01-2005, 09:42 AM

Oh, and ray mercer and francois botha lost in K-1 kickboxing fights.

First of all, a YOUNGER Botha got knocked the **** out by an over the hill Mike Tyson, and by Lennox Lewis. So why shouldn't a YOUNG K-1 champ be able to knock his, by this time, even older ass out? And Mercer's even more over the hill than Botha (if that's even possible). You name any boxer in his PRIME who's gotten knocked out in K-1, and MAYBE you have a point. But you can't.

PunchDrunk

06-01-2005, 09:46 AM

lol, tell that ray mercer, nbotha, briggs, vince phillips or any of the other boxers who have been KO'd

look at this clip

All those guys are WAY over the hill, and except for Phillips and maybe Mercer, never that good to begin with.
When you put a walking fossil like Mercer up against a young K-1 champ in his prime, of course Mercer's gonna lose. Now put a young Mike Tyson in there against this guy, and you have a fair comparison.

guru

06-01-2005, 10:57 AM

All those guys are WAY over the hill, and except for Phillips and maybe Mercer, never that good to begin with.
When you put a walking fossil like Mercer up against a young K-1 champ in his prime, of course Mercer's gonna lose. Now put a young Mike Tyson in there against this guy, and you have a fair comparison.

poit is, in most cases, a boxer isn't to be successful out of their element just like a martial artist isn't going to win a boxing match... hopkins isn't going to beat tito ortiz in the UFC and ortiz isn't going to beat nard in a boxing match....

cvt

06-01-2005, 11:55 AM

Jose, obviously you know very little about bruce lee or martial arts, besides boxing. Boxing is very effective in a standup fight but on the ground the pure boxer would lose quite easily, especially to someone skilled in something like jujitsu.

As for bruce lee, he developed his own system of fighting. His skills and IQ (including fighting IQ) are well above any boxer--you can tell this by his philosophies on fighting. Also, many of his students became world champions. I have also seen footage of him training on the heavy bag (punching and kicking), training with his students including kareem abdul jabar and chuck norris. He's lightning fast. Believe me, his kick is faster than a boxer's punch. That's pretty amazing. And he did street fight in his younger days, I've seen one footage of it in a documentary and he owned!

I think it's amazing how people say that bruce was not a great fighter because he didn't eneter tournaments. well he didn't. the reason? because tournaments had rules and he trained to fight for life and not for points. he trained the biggest american martial arts champions at that time (chuck norris, joe lewis, and mike stone)...and all of them valued his knowledge and skills. i actually got to talk to chuck and i asked him if bruce was really as good as people say he was...he smiled and said bruce was a master at changing his tempo and controlling distance and that it was aggrivating trying to hit him while being so discouraged at the same time as bruce would 'stop-hit' any attach they had.

now think about this. a boxer has two weapons his right fist and left fist. a martial artist has those plus his knees, elbows, head, finger (eye-jab), and legs...plus grappling knowledge (if he is well rounded). ever see a boxer get taken to the ground? it's like seeing a fish flap around out of water...literally. did bruce know how to grapple? he learned form one of the best gene la belle...and any 'real' fighter will tell you that gene was great in his day.

PapiShasho

06-01-2005, 12:14 PM

was bruce lee the one who knocked that guy down with the punch one inch away from his chest...? i know i saw a video, and he puts his fist like one inch away from the guys chest, hits him, and the guy falls back, and i think he did the same with a sumo wrestler...

i know the videos somewhere...

but anyway, yeah bruce lees real, obviously dude has skills if youve seen his movies, but the fact that theres no footage of him only adds to his legend. so who knows if he was as good as the legend says...

!! Mr. Soprano

06-01-2005, 12:24 PM

cvt

06-01-2005, 12:32 PM

but anyway, yeah bruce lees real, obviously dude has skills if youve seen his movies, but the fact that theres no footage of him only adds to his legend. so who knows if he was as good as the legend says...

there's training footage of him sparring full contact...as far as real fights...no one carries a camcorder around. during filming of enter the dragon lee was jumped several times to 'test' him. he came out victorious everytime...and these were witnessed by the producers, director, extras, actors, etc. that were on the set that day.

hollister

06-01-2005, 01:25 PM

Martial Arts are a joke. A world class boxewr would destroy and Martial Artist with ease. All that fancy ****...guess what? It dont work in the real world.

Jeezus talk about blind...A world class Boxer would "destroy" a world class martial artist "with ease"?

For christ's sake, why don't you just say that you hate Martial Arts because they were too complicated for you to learn? LMFAO

cvt

06-01-2005, 01:42 PM

Jeezus talk about blind...A world class Boxer would "destroy" a world class martial artist "with ease"?

For christ's sake, why don't you just say that you hate Martial Arts because they were too complicated for you to learn? LMFAO

jose is obviously ignorrant and is basing his martial arts opinion on movies and demonstrations in tournaments. real street application martial arts is as gritty as it gets. i can tell you right now jose has never felt a good thai leg kick, been taken down and arm barred, elbowed, or eye gouged.

IwatchBoxing

06-01-2005, 02:03 PM

Make an account here, www.enterbrucelee.com , than go to their video gallery, they have Bruce Lee home videos of him working out, and stuff. From what I know now, he could beat Boxing/UFC Champions easily, all the way to Heaveyweight, I think thats pretty safe to say. No doubt he'd kick Chavez's ass :D .

hollister

06-01-2005, 02:03 PM

jose is obviously ignorrant and is basing his martial arts opinion on movies and demonstrations in tournaments. real street application martial arts is as gritty as it gets. i can tell you right now jose has never felt a good thai leg kick, been taken down and arm barred, elbowed, or eye gouged.

Yeah I don't know why he is so biased in his comparison, you would think he would like it more since his thing is UFC tournaments and such. Many people think that Martial Arts only consists of styles like Tae-Kwon-Do and don't realise just how many different styles there are.

Chups

06-01-2005, 02:15 PM

Martial Arts are a joke. A world class boxewr would destroy and Martial Artist with ease. All that fancy ****...guess what? It dont work in the real world.

What the hell Jose? I thought you like MMA (Mix Martial Arts) now you're saying it's a joke. Oh man... :D

Fancy **** they do are movie ****s. Martial arts work in real life...defending urself or trying to beat the hell out of some peeps you want beat.
99 out of 100 somebody who "know" Martial Arts will beat somebody who doesn't know ****. MMA fighters will beat most peeps in a fight.

Chups

06-01-2005, 02:22 PM

Yeah I don't know why he is so biased in his comparison, you would think he would like it more since his thing is UFC tournaments and such. Many people think that Martial Arts only consists of styles like Tae-Kwon-Do and don't realise just how many different styles there are.

Now I get it.....some peeps just think Martial arts are just those "old oriental words". MMA (hence martial arts in the name) is Martial arts. They combined different styles to make 1 style which makes it another style of martial arts. Just like Juijutsu came from judo and several other styles. I studied YAW YAN (check out the website) It's a combination of juijutsu and kickboxing. (one hell of a combination)

xrhythmxnxbluesx

06-01-2005, 03:18 PM

Martial Arts are a joke. A world class boxewr would destroy and Martial Artist with ease. All that fancy ****...guess what? It dont work in the real world.
you's a mark beezy.. face it was juss too complicated for you to learn... a thai fighter will or mma fighter will have a an upper hand over a boxer...

PunchDrunk

06-01-2005, 03:39 PM

poit is, in most cases, a boxer isn't to be successful out of their element just like a martial artist isn't going to win a boxing match... hopkins isn't going to beat tito ortiz in the UFC and ortiz isn't going to beat nard in a boxing match....

That, I can agree with. :)

Chups

06-01-2005, 03:40 PM

Let's just put it this way:

A boxer will most likely beat an MMA fighter in a boxing match and an MMA fighter will most likely beat a boxer in an MMA tournament.An MMA fighter will most likely lose to a Tae-Kwon-do practictioner in a Tae Kwon-do Olympics, just as Taekwon do won't probably get gold against a wrestler in wrestling. It's a simple as that.
In the "REAL WORLD" streetfight it's very unlikely to see a PRO fighter challenge another PRO fighter (whatever his martial arts be). The ordinary day to day scenario is a thug challenging another thug or guy. OR a thug or guy challenging a guy with a knowledge in M.A..The guy who studies M.A. will have the upperhand than a guy who knows nothing. Now a guy who knows M.A. meeting with a thug knowing M.A. will probably depend on how good the individual is.

Any body agrees with me? :D

simeraksou

06-01-2005, 03:44 PM

First of all, a YOUNGER Botha got knocked the **** out by an over the hill Mike Tyson, and by Lennox Lewis. So why shouldn't a YOUNG K-1 champ be able to knock his, by this time, even older ass out? And Mercer's even more over the hill than Botha (if that's even possible). You name any boxer in his PRIME who's gotten knocked out in K-1, and MAYBE you have a point. But you can't.
Well, I was just responding to jose's comment that a boxer would defeat another martial artist easily. If that were true, mercer and botha would have won even if they were fighting younger fighters. A boxer always has a chance in any fight due to excellent striking ability. However, a boxer is particularly vulnerable if taken to the ground.

simeraksou

06-01-2005, 03:46 PM