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ANDERSON SILVA aint best P4P fighter.

First he would get killed against LYOTO MACHIDA or maybe even RAMPAGE.

And he has like 4 losses on his record.

He was nobody in PRIDE.

Best fighter is FEDOR EMELIANENKO hands down.

He has only one loss and that loss is crap,he got cut and we

saw rematch with TK.


In my opinion LYOTO MACHIDA is second and GSP is third and of

course best P4P fighter is FEDOR EMELIANENKO!

**** Fedor...........

Josh Koscheck...

Only problem I have with saying someone like Fedor is P4P number 1, is the fact that he only fights at one weight.

Yeah, he's a beast, but then so is BJ Penn (who fought Lyoto when he was a HW).

For that reason, i'd say BJ is 1, Machida 2, Silva 3.

GSP and Fedor are in a class of their own, but haven't fought outside of their weight class so I personally don't like putting people who only fight at one weight on P4P lists.

Only problem I have with saying someone like Fedor is P4P number 1, is the fact that he only fights at one weight.

Yeah, he's a beast, but then so is BJ Penn (who fought Lyoto when he was a HW).

For that reason, i'd say BJ is 1, Machida 2, Silva 3.

GSP and Fedor are in a class of their own, but haven't fought outside of their weight class so I personally don't like putting people who only fight at one weight on P4P lists.

lol, if you put it that way then Hideo Tokoro is #1. He is a featherweight and was robbed(called a draw) when he kicked the **** out of Royce Gracie.

Best fighter is FEDOR EMELIANENKO hands down.

Cosigned. No one comes close to Fedor imo. He's the best there is and the best there ever was.

**** Fedor...........

Spoken like a truly non-biased individual.

Only problem I have with saying someone like Fedor is P4P number 1, is the fact that he only fights at one weight.

Yeah, he's a beast, but then so is BJ Penn (who fought Lyoto when he was a HW).

For that reason, i'd say BJ is 1, Machida 2, Silva 3.

GSP and Fedor are in a class of their own, but haven't fought outside of their weight class so I personally don't like putting people who only fight at one weight on P4P lists.

Fedor fights at heavyweight and superheavyweight :D

Also, BJ may've had a case a year or two ago. Now he is probably about #5 at best. I'd put Fedor, Silva and GSP above him. Machida or Penn would each have a case for #4, but I have Machida ahead of Penn.

Of the 5 guys, I think Machida has a chance to be p4p #1 in the future. I think GSP has hit his stride and will be tough for anyone to beat. Silva seems on top of his game, but it seems his career is winding down now.

Fedor remains the undisputed king in my book. Until someone comes a long with a skill set, not to mention a reign of dominance, even remotely comparable to that of Fedor I will be open for argument. As it stands now, Machida is the only one I see who may make a case in the future.

Cosigned. No one comes close to Fedor imo. He's the best there is and the best there ever was.

I thought that was Bret "The Hitman" Hart. :D

http://www.wrestlerbiographies.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/bret-hart-biography-superluchas.jpg

I thought that was Bret "The Hitman" Hart. :D

http://www.wrestlerbiographies.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/bret-hart-biography-superluchas.jpg
Him too of course. A bit of apples and oranges though really.

Edit: also, I deliberately left out the best there ever will be, as the sport is still young. Fedor is Wilt Chamberlin or Julius Irving, before Jordan came along.

bj penn :)

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he would mess anderson up.

takedown.

takedown.

takedown.

he would mess anderson up.

takedown.

takedown.

takedown.
Can't see it happening. The fight's a physical mismatch imo. Also, in spite of all the "best wrestler in MMA" crap spouted out by the UFC announcers, Henderson is a FAR superior wrestler, and while Hendo had his moments, I can't see GSP bringing more to the table then Hendo when it comes to wrestling.

GSP and Fedor are in a class of their own, but haven't fought outside of their weight class so I personally don't like putting people who only fight at one weight on P4P lists.

The term P4P refers to someone's value in their weight class. It does not require anyone to move up or down in weight to be eligible. If a fighter's value in their respective weight class if higher than someone's elses value in their weight class, than they get higher recognition and their P4P status is ranked higher.

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GSP is a classy guy. Gotta respect that.

Can't see it happening. The fight's a physical mismatch imo. Also, in spite of all the "best wrestler in MMA" crap spouted out by the UFC announcers, Henderson is a FAR superior wrestler, and while Hendo had his moments, I can't see GSP bringing more to the table then Hendo when it comes to wrestling.

henderson is up there in age plus cutting to 183-185 hurts him imo.

gsp might not be the best wrestler in mma but he has one of the best and fastest take downs.

i respect gsp skills better than anderson.

Hah, just watched the part with the performance enhancers question. Not that my opinion matters, but GSP seemed extremely genuine. He looked as though he considered it a joke, except for due to the seriousness of the topic he gave a serious response.

Hah, just watched the part about the performance enhancers question. Not that my opinion matters, but GSP seemed extremely genuine. He looked as though he considered it a joke, except for due to the seriousness of the topic he gave a serious response.

no proof of gsp and ped's.

GSP is a classy guy. Gotta respect that.

I liked it because, one it validates my point on all 3 guys having done enough to prove their worthy of being called P4P #1 and that it's a matter of opinion as to who fans feel is the king. But mostly when you look at the 3 guys at hand, GSP, Anderson and Fedor have to be the most respectful fighters out there and they wouldn't even consider themselves the best. I don't mind what fans think or if they agree with me, but for fighters having the respect of your peers like these guys do a true compliment to their greatness.

no proof of gsp and ped's.

There is proof however that BJ Penn is a sore loser who is the most classless and immature MMA fighter out there. Rarely do I ever disrespect MMA fighters. I respect them for what they do, but he's the rare exception. He got beat twice and he still runs his mouth. When the fact is, he's the one who couldn't even answer to the bell. What a joke!

bj penn is the most talented mma fighter of all time if he had good conditioning from the beginning his only loss would be against machida

bj penn is the greatest fighter of all time

:killyou:

Fador is not the best he can be beaten by brock lesnar

I liked it because, one it validates my point on all 3 guys having done enough to prove their worthy of being called P4P #1 and that it's a matter of opinion as to who fans feel is the king. But mostly when you look at the 3 guys at hand, GSP, Anderson and Fedor have to be the most respectful fighters out there and they wouldn't even consider themselves the best. I don't mind what fans think or if they agree with me, but for fighters having the respect of your peers like these guys do a true compliment to their greatness.

I absolutely agree with this, point for point. As for the last line, this truly speaks to the spirit of martial arts.

Fador is not the best he can be beaten by brock lesnar

What has Lesnar done which merits him as a candidate to hold Fedor's jock strap? Mir is ****, and Lesnar is 1-1 against him. Couture was 45 and coming off a 15 month layoff. Herring was a tough gatekeeper in his day, but he was never elite and he was well past it by the time Lesnar got a crack at him. Min Soo Kim should've stuck to judo.

Brock Lesnar is a paper champion.

There is proof however that BJ Penn is a sore loser who is the most classless and immature MMA fighter out there. Rarely do I ever disrespect MMA fighters. I respect them for what they do, but he's the rare exception. He got beat twice and he still runs his mouth. When the fact is, he's the one who couldn't even answer to the bell. What a joke!

don't care about class , attitude , maturity.

i like skills. bj penn has it in spades.

In his last 10 fights Spider has fought 10 top 15 ranked opponents, in Fedor's 30 wins he has beaten 9 top 15 ranked opponents

Fedor in the last 2 years has beaten Hong Man Choi, AA and Timmy, Spider has beaten Nate the great, Rich, Hendo, Irvin and Forrest

GSP has faced the best opposition but his loss to Serra was ****in embarrassing ( He's improved though for sure )

1. Spider
2. GSP
3. Fedor
4. Lyoto
5. BJ

don't care about class , attitude , maturity.

i like skills. bj penn has it in spades.

WTF is going on with your avi, what bet did you lose

WTF is going on with your avi, what bet did you lose

floyd hater!

floyd hater!

Thats a sick avi, Floyd is the p4p best boxer in the world.

As for this arguement, Fedor is the p4p best fighter in the world.

Fedor is 30 wins and one bs loss which was avenged by stoppage.

GSP is 18 and 2 but lost two fights he shouldnt have.

Anderson is 25-4, lost his debut, got a bs dq lost, but lost to two guys he shouldnt have due to tap out.

Fedor's won his last five fights by kimura on a guy with like 60 pounds on him, two arm bars, one on a guy nearly a foot taller, a rear naked choke by someone 7 inches taller, and a one punch knockout.

Gsp won his last five fights by,armbar, tko from knees to the back, decision, tko corner stoppage, and another decision.

Anderson's five by, rear naked choke, ko at 205, 3rd round tko injury, decision, and a one punch knockout at 205.

Fedor has the best record and its filled with legends and one bs loss, Anderson and GSP have great records with good names too but while they are dominating now, they have screwed up before and bad. Thats why people still say Fedor is number one because he never screwed up period. His one loss should have been a no contest and he killed the dude in a rematch, he's been dominate his whole entire career and even as Anderson and GSP are on a peak now Fedor still has been finishing his opponents in the same dominant fashion he defeated the best fighters in pride. People made a huge deal of Alves being bigger the GSP but the weight difference was like 20 pounds and GSP was still an inch taller. Spider always has the height advantage and most times the weight because although he is real skinny, he still cuts a lot of weight and he is very strong. Fedor is usually the one at the height and weight disadvantage some times by over five inches and 60 pounds in weight, but his skills are so godly, people say going against guys like that diminish his legacy because he is to good to fight them.

All three are sick but Fedor is just in a class by himself

Melvin Guillard.

I didn't vote. Guys in my top 5 are Fedor, Silva, BJ, GSP and Machida not in any order.

I was going to put Penn being that he's still my favorite fight but I don't see him as #1 right now.
If he'd just stay at lightweight he'd be almost unbeatable.
I agree, he needs to get over GSP .

I didn't vote. Guys in my top 5 are Fedor, Silva, BJ, GSP and Machida not in any order.

can't say anything wrong about that top 5.

machida is trouble for anyone.

Fookin Fedor does not have the coconuts to fight a Brock. Or he's a submissive ***** that makes his crappy management take advantage of his career. Either way that's bad.

That ****er Silva is actually moving up and seems to still be dominant. That's another thing, pound for pound is not something for a Fedor. He does not have the option to move up.

Fookin Fedor does not have the coconuts to fight a Brock. Or he's a submissive ***** that makes his crappy management take advantage of his career. Either way that's bad.

That ****er Silva is actually moving up and seems to still be dominant. That's another thing, pound for pound is not something for a Fedor. He does not have the option to move up.

tbf to fedor he is a smallish heavyweight so when he fights guys like sylvia who are 6'8 260 it's like fighting in another division.

i think fedor has great wrestling and ground and pound.

he also has great submission defense and solid sub skills himself.

don't know if he is #1 p4p.

p4p is if everyone was the same size , how they would do.

i don't know how fedor would handle a 220 lb. penn or st. pierre.

Fookin Fedor does not have the coconuts to fight a Brock. Or he's a submissive ***** that makes his crappy management take advantage of his career. Either way that's bad.

That ****er Silva is actually moving up and seems to still be dominant. That's another thing, pound for pound is not something for a Fedor. He does not have the option to move up.

In fairness to Fedor, he has faced some pretty big dudes in his career, he has stated in the past that smaller quicker fighters give him trouble rather than bigger opponents, thats why i want to see him face Silva or Machida who are extremely quick and accurate

In fairness to Fedor, he has faced some pretty big dudes in his career, he has stated in the past that smaller quicker fighters give him trouble rather than bigger opponents, thats why i want to see him face Silva or Machida who are extremely quick and accurate

I have to say most of the biggest lads he faced weren't anything special. Choi, Schilt and Sylvia were strikers who could be taken apart by a ground specialist like Fedor, like he did. With this Brock, all that size and strength are put into excellent use on the ground. He is a phenominal wrestler and it's always the lads who are great for their size who are the most dangerous(Look at Boxing's heavyweight rulers.) I truly believe Fedor does not want to deal with that. You know that interview right after the news came out that he's not gonna be in the UFC. I could see in him that he was dissapointed in himself and frustrated that there is someone out there he can't take apart. I'd see Fedor getting man handled and pounded bloody untill the fight is stopped.

Silva
Fedor
GSP

no proof of gsp and ped's.

True, no proof but still this is a good article to read - http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sex_news_sports_funny_grok/steroids_in_mixed_martial_arts

True, no proof but still this is a good article to read - http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sex_news_sports_funny_grok/steroids_in_mixed_martial_arts

at least it's not as bad as it is in japan.

over there they treat mma like pro wrestling.

they don't even test for ped's.

i don't know if gsp used ped's.

i know he bulked up a lot recently and he looked huge compared to the gsp in gsp-penn 1.

that said they have been talking about him going to 185 to fight silva , so that could explain why he bulked up.

don't know. don't want to say until there's proof.

i joke around that he roids because he's so big against penn......but that's me just teasing some of my buddies here like kswizz99 who are big gsp fans and it's my joking way of defending penn's loss who i nuthug.

at least it's not as bad as it is in japan.

over there they treat mma like pro wrestling.

they don't even test for ped's.

i don't know if gsp used ped's.

i know he bulked up a lot recently and he looked huge compared to the gsp in gsp-penn 1.

that said they have been talking about him going to 185 to fight silva , so that could explain why he bulked up.

don't know. don't want to say until there's proof.

i joke around that he roids because he's so big against penn......but that's me just teasing some of my buddies here like kswizz99 who are big gsp fans and it's my joking way of defending penn's loss who i nuthug.

Me too, even though it's obvious that they (ped's) exist.

And it makes the sport fair again knowing that both fighters might be using.

People are failing to realize that before he fought Koscheck, St. Pierre had NO FORMAL STRENGTH AND CONDITIONING COACH!!!

Now he trains with Johnathan Chaimberg who is, IMO the best S&C coach in MMA right now.

GSP
Silva
Fedor
Machida
BJ Penn

http://mmaaddicts.com/dann/ufc94/lyoto-machida.jpg

Nate Marquardt!

I don't know how anyone can doubt Silva is #1 after that last performance. Everyone knows Forrest is tough, but Silva made it look like he was sparring with some random schmuck off of the street. Not too many fighters can make it out of a fight at that level with only getting hit once, let alone dropping your hands and making the other guy miss like that. I guess Silva was doing his RJJ impersonation.

man.... lyoto machida is the number one p4p fightr in the world because he undefeated... has never even lost a round, has an excellent resume.... and gets hit the least.......

For now I would put Fedor ahead of Silva, Just because Fedor has fought the best the world had to offer back in pride. Also for the fact that Fedor is not that big of a heavyweight, most of the time he's the smaller man and he still manages to crush his opponents.

The only thing I would question is his level of competition lately and possibly in the future.

Now if Anderson moves up to Lt Heavy and dismantles the division* and simultaneously defends his MW title, While Fedor fights Guys like Brett Rogers in Strike Force. I may have to change my mind.

*Imo UFC's 205 div right now seems to be the deepest division talent wise in mma history.