Gettin Jiggy
08-10-2009, 05:01 PM
what are your thoughts on him? do you feel he is a overrated historian? and is he knowlodge of boxing overrated or underrated?
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View Full Version : what are your thoughts on bert sugar? Gettin Jiggy 08-10-2009, 05:01 PM what are your thoughts on him? do you feel he is a overrated historian? and is he knowlodge of boxing overrated or underrated? Benncollinsaad 08-10-2009, 05:28 PM He's ok. He's got good knowledge. Dynamite Kid 08-10-2009, 07:02 PM He dont rate Lennox Lewis thats my thoughts :boxing: princemanspoper 08-10-2009, 07:02 PM The problem with bert sugar like most other boxing historians is that he is too damn loyal to his generation and the one he grew up in.He tends to go somewhat overboard with his opinions <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/QKfQQAhuCRE&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/QKfQQAhuCRE&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> Gettin Jiggy 08-10-2009, 07:07 PM The problem with bert sugar like most other boxing historians is that he is too damn loyal to his generation and the one he grew up in.He tends to go somewhat overboard with his opinions <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/QKfQQAhuCRE&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/QKfQQAhuCRE&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> i dont understand do, klit did put on a boxing masterpiece against ibragimov! yes it wasnt good to watch, but still a world class boxing lesson! Gettin Jiggy 08-10-2009, 07:08 PM He dont rate Lennox Lewis thats my thoughts :boxing: yeah, he dosent even have him in his top 100 fighters! Gettin Jiggy 08-10-2009, 07:09 PM bert's top 10 1.robinson 2.armstrong 3.willie pep 4.joe louis 5.harry greb 6.benny leaonrd 7.Ali 8.duran 9.jack dempsey 10.jack johnson Dynamite Kid 08-10-2009, 07:10 PM yeah, he dosent even have him in his top 100 fighters! That is what i was referring to, if that aint biased what is ? Gettin Jiggy 08-10-2009, 07:12 PM That is what i was referring to, if that aint biased what is ? and he has dempsey number #9 of all time! WTF! Dynamite Kid 08-10-2009, 07:13 PM and he has dempsey number #9 of all time! WTF! Me thinks there is Ganja in them cigars he smokes. :ugh: Benncollinsaad 08-10-2009, 07:13 PM bert's top 10 1.robinson 2.armstrong 3.willie pep 4.joe louis 5.harry greb 6.benny leaonrd 7.Ali 8.duran 9.jack dempsey 10.jack johnson Armstrong who? Gettin Jiggy 08-10-2009, 07:18 PM Armstrong who? henry! and he deserves to be there! TheGreatA 08-10-2009, 07:22 PM Can't deny his contributions to the sport but he has always worked better as a storyteller than a legit historian. Not the most reliable source in boxing knowledge. Gettin Jiggy 08-10-2009, 07:27 PM Can't deny his contributions to the sport but he has always worked better as a storyteller than a legit historian. Not the most reliable source in boxing knowledge. can you post some of the lies he has said in the past? GJC 08-10-2009, 08:40 PM I'll read the guy but he is not someone whose writing I particularily look for. Think he is suffering from nat fleischer syndrome been around so long that his age gives him more kudos than I think his knowledge warrants. Also think his writing can have more of him in it than the boxers. Jim Jeffries 08-10-2009, 09:15 PM Jack Dempsey one of the top 10 greatest HWs of all time? Perhaps, barely. One of the top ten greatest fighters ever? Laughable. The_Bringer 08-10-2009, 10:20 PM He's just another old Historian who shows a bias towards fighters of his own generation. On the one hand ; I cannot deny he is very intelligent and sincere when it comes to giving his opinions on matters related to boxing. On the other ; I often have a hard time taking anything he says seriously due to the way he continuously downgrades modern fighters and spouts proven myths as fact. (Willie Pep won a round without ever throwing a punch, Ray Robinson knocked out Gene Fullmer going backwards, etc....) The_Bringer 08-10-2009, 10:21 PM Can't deny his contributions to the sport but he has always worked better as a storyteller than a legit historian. Not the most reliable source in boxing knowledge. I've learned more from boxing history in here, from old fight clips on youtube, and from your posts than I ever have from Mr.Sugar. TheGreatA > Bert "Randolph" Sugar. boxingbuff 08-11-2009, 04:40 PM bert's top 10 1.robinson 2.armstrong 3.willie pep 4.joe louis 5.harry greb 6.benny leaonrd 7.Ali 8.duran 9.jack dempsey 10.jack johnson Not a bad list......Take away Dempsey,move up Duran and Ali. sonnyboyx2 08-12-2009, 03:59 AM He dont rate Lennox Lewis thats my thoughts :boxing: i go along with Bert...i dont rate Lennox Lewis also MARKBNLV 08-13-2009, 01:10 PM Armstrong who? henry armstrong is 1 for me princemanspoper 08-13-2009, 02:02 PM You know absolutely nothing of his career and just said that in an attempt to try and legitimize yourself as a boxing fan.Sorry sh*tstain,You threw that out of the window when you put that crackhead bum as your avatar Spear 08-15-2009, 02:24 AM unbelievable bias for old fighters & against modern fighters. |