View Full Version : Toney Vs Hopkins (WBA Title) that's a challenge
At risk of getting banned, i propose this superfight.
If Toney defeats Ruiz, Hopkins Vs Toney would be something else.
Hopkins would only come in at around 185lbs, but I'd still back him.
NB. He actually weighed 173lbs on fight night against Oscar. Don't know if he does weight training but at 6'2" I'd imagine he could put some beef on.
THAT WOULD MAKE HISTORY!
borikua 02-24-2005, 08:46 PM Get banned for posting this thread?
Get banned for posting this thread?
mate, you just copied the first line of my post.
ChicoEscuelaNYC 02-24-2005, 09:00 PM what a stupid thread
Marjoh 02-24-2005, 09:00 PM mate, you just copied the first line of my post.
I think he's asking. Why would you get banned for posting such thread?
the giant one 02-24-2005, 09:10 PM Toney would be too much at that weight i think. Hopkins is already slowing down at 160 , so why would he have any mobility at that weight? Also toney would have the power advantage and isnt afraid to trade inside with BHop. Toney by either Late KO from corner calling it quits or lopsided decision
Super_Lightweight 02-24-2005, 09:26 PM No way in hell does Toney win a "lopsided decision" over Befrnard Hopkins, as long as Hopkins looks as good as he did vs Eastman and Oscar (not to say he hasn't looked better).
Due to Toney's increased liklihood on getting injured, and Hopkins' age, this would have to be nothing other than a pick-em type o fight.
I favor Hopkins I must admit. It's hard to call though. I wish they would have fought a couple years ago like they were supposed to do or whenever that was.
No way in hell does Toney win a "lopsided decision" over Befrnard Hopkins, as long as Hopkins looks as good as he did vs Eastman and Oscar (not to say he hasn't looked better).
Due to Toney's increased liklihood on getting injured, and Hopkins' age, this would have to be nothing other than a pick-em type o fight.
I favor Hopkins I must admit. It's hard to call though. I wish they would have fought a couple years ago like they were supposed to do or whenever that was.
could the fight be made?
I'd be interested to see how both fighters would answer the q.
julDilla 02-24-2005, 10:01 PM could the fight be made?
I'd be interested to see how both fighters would answer the q.
no Hopkins is 160, he must gain 40 pounds to make it happen
Super_Lightweight 02-24-2005, 10:11 PM One thing some of you don't seem to understand is that Hopkins doesn't care about belts, so he doesn't have to come in at any weight otehr than the weight that pleases him, a long as the Toney camp agrees to the weight on the contract.
Two guys don't have to weigh the same to fight each other in all situations. There are exceptions. I would definitely think that Hopkins would come in at 180. He weighed 173 while in the ring vs Oscar, and he would probably want to put on just a little bit of muscle for the Toney fight.
That would be an excellent matchup. Toney might have the upper hand on the inside, but the edge in speed goes to Hopkins. The obvious edge in punching power goes to Toney, yet Hopkins has a good chin.
Its pretty tough to call, but I would not bet against Hopkins.
Kid Achilles 02-24-2005, 10:28 PM Hopkins does not *have* to put on any weight, certainly not forty pounds. Toney fights at heavyweight and there is no limit at that division. This is something a lot of people have a hard time understanding. Obviously if you weigh 130 no one is going to sanction the fight but Hopkins can definitely come in at 175 or 180 lbs no problem against a small light hitting HW like Toney. The 195 lbs or 200 lbs (honestly don't know what it is nowadays, it was 190 just a few years back) is just the ceiling for cruiserweight. There is no rule in boxing that says a fighter is unable to fight if he weighs in a little under the limit. The problem arises when the fighter weighs over the limit (even if only by an ounce or so), which is of course impossible to do at HW.
Don't forget, they allow HW's to weigh in with boots and coats (with pockets filled with small weights...) anyway so the weights are rarely accurate.
Hopkins does not *have* to put on any weight, certainly not forty pounds. Toney fights at heavyweight and there is no limit at that division. This is something a lot of people have a hard time understanding. Obviously if you weigh 130 no one is going to sanction the fight but Hopkins can definitely come in at 175 or 180 lbs no problem against a small light hitting HW like Toney. The 195 lbs or 200 lbs (honestly don't know what it is nowadays, it was 190 just a few years back) is just the ceiling for cruiserweight. There is no rule in boxing that says a fighter is unable to fight if he weighs in a little under the limit. The problem arises when the fighter weighs over the limit (even if only by an ounce or so), which is of course impossible to do at HW.
Don't forget, they allow HW's to weigh in with boots and coats (with pockets filled with small weights...) anyway so the weights are rarely accurate.
who do u like KA?
Kimmy 02-26-2005, 10:11 PM I agree that Hopkins doesn`t have to beef up, he can be enter the ring at 175 and beat a 215 Toney. Skill is more the factor, not just weight.
Besides, Toney is a boxer and this suits Hopkin`s style. It is also unlikely that Toney would force the pace to the extent that his extra bult would be significant!
no problem against a small light hitting HW like Toney.
:confused: light hitting?
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