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Warrior Spirit 02-24-2005, 01:16 AM I know I may sound like a dork and my friends make fun of me for it but I'm really fascinated by certain eras in history. I enjoy reading about ancient Rome(and playing Rome Total War,best computer game ever!!),the Crusades, ancient Egypt, the Napoleonic Wars, the American Revoultuionary War, the Seven Years War,the U.S. Civil War, and the old west era in American history.
I just really enjoy reading and learning about these eras in history.
So anybody on here big history buffs?
Purity 02-24-2005, 01:22 AM addressing the present while preparing for our future will always start with the knowledge and respect of the past. even though most of our history is probably biased bull****, it's still good for the ol' noggin.
THRILLAinmanila 02-24-2005, 01:23 AM I know I may sound like a dork and my friends make fun of me for it but I'm really fascinated by certain eras in history. I enjoy reading about ancient Rome(and playing Rome Total War,best computer game ever!!),the Crusades, ancient Egypt, the Napoleonic Wars, the American Revoultuionary War, the Seven Years War,the U.S. Civil War, and the old west era in American history.
I just really enjoy reading and learning about these eras in history.
So anybody on here big history buffs?
Yeah I love reading about history and astronomy...I especially like reading about past wars...
Warrior Spirit 02-24-2005, 01:23 AM addressing the present while preparing for our future will always start with the knowledge and respect of the past. even though most of our history is probably biased bull****, it's still good for the ol' noggin.
I couldn't agree more, and it would be nice if I could get books on US history from other countries views.
Warrior Spirit 02-24-2005, 01:24 AM Yeah I love reading about history and astronomy...I especially like reading about past wars...
Hell yeah...I guess I'm more of a militaty history buff, now that I think about it.
IwatchBoxing 02-24-2005, 01:30 AM Down These Mean Streets (Thirtieth-Anniversary Edition)-
Great book I read,
The 30th anniversary edition of this classic memoir about growing up in Spanish Harlem includes an afterword reminding us that its streets are even meaner now, thanks to crack cocaine and the dismantling of government poverty programs. As a dark-skinned Puerto Rican, born in 1928, Piri Thomas faced with painful immediacy the absurd contradictions of America's racial attitudes (among people of all colors) in a time of wrenching social change. Three decades have not dimmed the luster of his jazzy prose, rich in Hispanic rhythms and beat-generation slang.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0679781420/ref=pd_bxgy_text_1/104-9023606-0167930?v=glance&s=books&st=*
Racism, drugs, crime, good read into the past, I perfer reading modern history about street life, and inspirational stuff.
Neuraxis 02-24-2005, 01:32 AM Name the two cases in the past 100 years where an invading country suffered the least amount of casualties while successfully invading and conquering a country with a standing army of 1 million or more men? Hint: the occupation went really poorly afterwards in both cases.
Purity 02-24-2005, 01:34 AM I couldn't agree more, and it would be nice if I could get books on US history from other countries views.
do an author search for Howard Zinn. you won't be disappointed.
Purity 02-24-2005, 01:35 AM Name the two cases in the past 100 years where an invading country suffered the least amount of casualties while successfully invading and conquering a country with a standing army of 1 million or more men? Hint: the occupation went really poorly afterwards in both cases.
i'm about 8 beers deep right now and don't really understand you. at least i'm honest.
Warrior Spirit 02-24-2005, 01:43 AM Name the two cases in the past 100 years where an invading country suffered the least amount of casualties while successfully invading and conquering a country with a standing army of 1 million or more men? Hint: the occupation went really poorly afterwards in both cases.
Well I was gonna say the USA but a standing army of a million or more men? Geez thats a tough one...
THRILLAinmanila 02-24-2005, 02:06 AM Name the two cases in the past 100 years where an invading country suffered the least amount of casualties while successfully invading and conquering a country with a standing army of 1 million or more men? Hint: the occupation went really poorly afterwards in both cases.
Japan invading China was one , right?
Talk to The Golden Bear, he's going for a PHD in history....
Neuraxis 02-24-2005, 02:34 AM Well I was gonna say the USA but a standing army of a million or more men? Geez thats a tough one...
Hmm maybe standing army is the wrong word because I'm not sure how large the Iraq Armed Forces were this time around. I only know that during the early 90s with the invasion of Kuwait that they had an army greater than 1 million men, though not all of them were in southern Iraq and Kuwait. But anyways that was one of the two that I was thinking of. So what's the other?
Neuraxis 02-24-2005, 02:38 AM Japan invading China was one , right?
Nope though it was pretty successful.
xrhythmxnxbluesx 02-24-2005, 02:50 AM i like reading about wars... how they killed their enemies and their different tactics that they use... and i like mythology alot... like about greek and roman gods... mystery of the lost ark the holy grail... stuff like that...
Warrior Spirit 02-24-2005, 02:57 AM Hmm maybe standing army is the wrong word because I'm not sure how large the Iraq Armed Forces were this time around. I only know that during the early 90s with the invasion of Kuwait that they had an army greater than 1 million men, though not all of them were in southern Iraq and Kuwait. But anyways that was one of the two that I was thinking of. So what's the other?
I don't know man, thats tough. I really have no idea.
Warrior Spirit 02-24-2005, 02:59 AM Oh wait, is it Germany invading Poland during the Second World War?
The Golden Bear 02-24-2005, 03:46 AM Talk to The Golden Bear, he's going for a PHD in history....
A Masters Degree in history, please get it right Kaps...
:P
LuKahnLi 02-24-2005, 08:53 AM Best book on American history I have ever read was "The Gangs of New York". Seriously it is hard to put this **** down.
Neuraxis 02-24-2005, 02:40 PM Oh wait, is it Germany invading Poland during the Second World War?
Nope, but you have the right country (Germany) and the right war (WWII). I'll just give it you. I really would have no idea either if I didn't have this book, The Harper Encyclopedia of Military History. Its pretty indepth about basically every event of every war ever and its something like 1700 pages. And onto the answer, Germany's invasion of Yugoslavia. German losses totaled 558 men, while Yugoslav losses were 300,000 captured and 100,000 wounded and killed.
Warrior Spirit 02-24-2005, 03:17 PM Nope, but you have the right country (Germany) and the right war (WWII). I'll just give it you. I really would have no idea either if I didn't have this book, The Harper Encyclopedia of Military History. Its pretty indepth about basically every event of every war ever and its something like 1700 pages. And onto the answer, Germany's invasion of Yugoslavia. German losses totaled 558 men, while Yugoslav losses were 300,000 captured and 100,000 wounded and killed.
Never in a million years would I have guessed that Yugoslavia would have a million man standing army!
The Fix 02-24-2005, 03:26 PM Nope, but you have the right country (Germany) and the right war (WWII). I'll just give it you. I really would have no idea either if I didn't have this book, The Harper Encyclopedia of Military History. Its pretty indepth about basically every event of every war ever and its something like 1700 pages. And onto the answer, Germany's invasion of Yugoslavia. German losses totaled 558 men, while Yugoslav losses were 300,000 captured and 100,000 wounded and killed.
what was yugoslavia doing , throwing rocks? you have a milion men and you manange just 558 kills? thats pretty pathetic
+= El Jefe=+ 02-24-2005, 03:32 PM I know I may sound like a dork and my friends make fun of me for it but I'm really fascinated by certain eras in history. I enjoy reading about ancient Rome(and playing Rome Total War,best computer game ever!!),the Crusades, ancient Egypt, the Napoleonic Wars, the American Revoultuionary War, the Seven Years War,the U.S. Civil War, and the old west era in American history.
I just really enjoy reading and learning about these eras in history.
So anybody on here big history buffs?
yeah big history buff here
Warrior Spirit 02-24-2005, 03:59 PM yeah big history buff here
Is there anything specific area of history that you have particular interest in?
+= El Jefe=+ 02-24-2005, 04:13 PM Is there anything specific area of history that you have particular interest in?
WWII
and Cold War
Neuraxis 02-24-2005, 04:45 PM what was yugoslavia doing , throwing rocks? you have a milion men and you manange just 558 kills? thats pretty pathetic
Yeah well Germany had the most advance army by far during the early years of WWII. It was pretty much like the equivilant of the modern U.S. army in terms of how far ahead of everyone they were with the exception of fighter planes, navy, and long range bombers none of which would have been necessary for an invasion of Yugoslavia. The U.S. had such an easy time with Germany excluding Italy, D-Day, and the Battle of the Bulge because most of the German Army was on the Eastern Front, Hitler was making a lot more decisions late in the war, and Germany was pretty much finished by mid 1944. Even after the disaster at Stalingrad when the German Army was in retreat in the East they beat the Russians pretty badly at Kharkov in 1943 when the Germans were outnumbers 7-1 in terms of men and 10-1 in terms of tanks.
LuKahnLi 02-25-2005, 04:47 PM what was yugoslavia doing , throwing rocks? you have a milion men and you manange just 558 kills? thats pretty pathetic
Think about it, Germany's army was a modern one. Yugoslavia still had a horse cavalry and ****. Tanks & Planes VS. Dudes on horseback. Not much competition.
HockeyFighter 02-25-2005, 05:10 PM Oh wait, is it Germany invading Poland during the Second World War?
Poland's armed forced totalled 750,000 at that time.
dodge 02-25-2005, 05:16 PM I never was a big history buff untill recently. I'm really interested in all sorts of history now. I like reading about the Romans and Greeks, ancient egypt and U.S history.
HockeyFighter 02-25-2005, 05:28 PM Never in a million years would I have guessed that Yugoslavia would have a million man standing army!
The actual number of mobalize troops at the time of the German invasion was only 28,000. Germany managed to take most of the countries it invaded by suprise, very few actually had time to perpare at all. France and Greece were pretty much the only nations ready for an assault. The French got taken by suprise the location of the German attack which lead to their quick downfall. The Greeks had been successfully fighting off the Italians coming out of Albania at the time and had actually taken territory in Albania. When the Germans attacked the Greek 1st army was trapped in Albania and surrendered. After that the Germans took Greece in a short period.
German forces caught most of Poland's army in train stations waiting to be deployed or at regional headquarters. Their airforce never got off the ground and although a few cities held out for around a month Poland was essentially defeated in 3 days.
I also believe that 558 number is the number of causalties suffered by German forces. The number killed was about 150.
SonnyG8R 02-25-2005, 05:59 PM I love History.
I've studied the Salem Witch Trials, The Civil War, The Vietnam War, and World War II extensively.
I love the enlightenment period as well as the Renaissance. Classical Greece and Rome are also fascinating, but my current area of interest is the American Old West.
Yeah well Germany had the most advance army by far during the early years of WWII. It was pretty much like the equivilant of the modern U.S. army in terms of how far ahead of everyone they were with the exception of fighter planes, navy, and long range bombers none of which would have been necessary for an invasion of Yugoslavia. The U.S. had such an easy time with Germany excluding Italy, D-Day, and the Battle of the Bulge because most of the German Army was on the Eastern Front, Hitler was making a lot more decisions late in the war, and Germany was pretty much finished by mid 1944. Even after the disaster at Stalingrad when the German Army was in retreat in the East they beat the Russians pretty badly at Kharkov in 1943 when the Germans were outnumbers 7-1 in terms of men and 10-1 in terms of tanks.
....You always hear about the prowess of the German soldiers but my uncle and a good friend of the family went hand to hand with German soldiers while serving in the Army during world war II and they said their group of guys always came out on top when they went head to head. Rommel was one serious baddass though, but he still couldn't hold Patton's jock.
Warrior Spirit 02-25-2005, 06:51 PM ....You always hear about the prowess of the German soldiers but my uncle and a good friend of the family went hand to hand with German soldiers while serving in the Army during world war II and they said their group of guys always came out on top when they went head to head. Rommel was one serious baddass though, but he still couldn't hold Patton's jock.
My grandfather got a silver medal in a battle during WW2 and its pretty cool how he got it. He was a captain of an infantry company which had been nearly cut to pieces by a German artillery battery, he somehow rallied his troops and managed to take the hill where the Germans were, and route them. I couldn't get any details from him specificly because he passed away before I was born, but I feel I do him proud by being fully aware of history in order to understand his generations sacrifice.
My grandfather got a silver medal in a battle during WW2 and its pretty cool how he got it. He was a captain of an infantry company which had been nearly cut to pieces by a German artillery battery, he somehow rallied his troops and managed to take the hill where the Germans were, and route them. I couldn't get any details from him specificly because he passed away before I was born, but I feel I do him proud by being fully aware of history in order to understand his generations sacrifice.
...Yeah our WWII guys were the baddest mother ****ers that ever were and that generation set the standard for excellence and commitment and heart for all of the future generations.
SonnyG8R 02-26-2005, 10:01 AM ...Yeah our WWII guys were the baddest mother ****ers that ever were and that generation set the standard for excellence and commitment and heart for all of the future generations.
The men who fought in the Revolutionary War against a much larger and better trained Brittish army were pretty impressive as well.
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 02-26-2005, 10:24 AM I'm also a big History buff.
Mexican History, Russian History, Roman History.
The men who fought in the Revolutionary War against a much larger and better trained Brittish army were pretty impressive as well.
....Excellent point!!
Neuraxis 02-27-2005, 01:52 AM The actual number of mobalize troops at the time of the German invasion was only 28,000. Germany managed to take most of the countries it invaded by suprise, very few actually had time to perpare at all. France and Greece were pretty much the only nations ready for an assault. The French got taken by suprise the location of the German attack which lead to their quick downfall. The Greeks had been successfully fighting off the Italians coming out of Albania at the time and had actually taken territory in Albania. When the Germans attacked the Greek 1st army was trapped in Albania and surrendered. After that the Germans took Greece in a short period.
German forces caught most of Poland's army in train stations waiting to be deployed or at regional headquarters. Their airforce never got off the ground and although a few cities held out for around a month Poland was essentially defeated in 3 days.
I also believe that 558 number is the number of causalties suffered by German forces. The number killed was about 150.
Really? Well that just goes to show you how stupid Europeans are about being able to recognize a threat especially when they overthrew Prince Paul and rejected the Axis alliance. I knew that Yugoslavia, when fully mobilized would be able to put over 1 million men in the field, but 28,000, that is just rediculous. But what I'd like to know is then how did the German's kill and wound 100,000 Yugoslavians if they only were able to mobilize 28,000?
Neuraxis 02-27-2005, 01:57 AM ....You always hear about the prowess of the German soldiers but my uncle and a good friend of the family went hand to hand with German soldiers while serving in the Army during world war II and they said their group of guys always came out on top when they went head to head. Rommel was one serious baddass though, but he still couldn't hold Patton's jock.
Patton is and was really underrated. But as for Rommel he's good, but I'd rate quite German's above him as well, the highest of which would have to be Manstein. Rommel is the just the most famous one.
Dr.Depravity 02-27-2005, 01:58 AM ....You always hear about the prowess of the German soldiers but my uncle and a good friend of the family went hand to hand with German soldiers while serving in the Army during world war II and they said their group of guys always came out on top when they went head to head. Rommel was one serious baddass though, but he still couldn't hold Patton's jock.
The more you post, the more I agree with you. The hiltler youth did a fairly good job of trying to protect Berlin in the end. Took down quite a few Russians Percentage wise.
Neuraxis 02-27-2005, 02:03 AM The more you post, the more I agree with you. The hiltler youth did a fairly good job of trying to protect Berlin in the end. Took down quite a few Russians Percentage wise.
Yeah, speaking of the Russians, one of the main reasons why Hitler the idiot decided to invade them was after how poorly they did against Finland. The Russians were successful the in end, but look at these numbers, Finnish casualties 68,000, Russian casualties 600,000.
Dr.Depravity 02-27-2005, 02:09 AM Russia's numbers were too big an obstacle to overcome. Kind of reminds me of a current highly populated communist country....
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