By Brad Cooney

When I turned on the television the other night to tune into the Toney/Booker fight, I was pretty confident that Toney would would hand this guy his first loss. Well, I saw exactly that, and more.....

James Toney beat this guy like a rag doll for 12 rounds.. The truth of the matter is that this fight should have been stopped long before the final 12th round. Booker was even glancing at his corner with a look of desperation as if saying "My God, will somebody throw in the towell"???.... Booker just decided to take a knee and save his own hide.. I guess he figured if the Referee, and his own corner wouldn't do it, he would.

Toney came out of his corner in each round like a caged animal let free. Toney looked in pretty darn good shape for Toney Standards as well.. He punished Booker with jabs, rights.. and a brilliant upper cut that found its mark with just about every attempt. When you looked into the corner of James Toney, it was like looking at a well oiled machine..

Freddie Roach calmly sitting in front of Toney between each round giving advice, and some suggestions..and Toney just sort of relaxing on the stool listening... With the Roach, Toney connection, I see World Champion written all of it! Booker was just plain and simply out classed by Toney... I will say this however.. Booker showed me that he has a heart of a lion.. He at least tried his best.. he didn't go down in defeat fighting like someone just trying to survive.. he at least tried to throw punches to the best of his ability. But Toney was just too much for him.

I look forward to Toney's next fights.. no matter who it may be, they better be ready.. James Toney to me, looks like a hungry animal on the prowl for prey...

What a silly editorial...

What a silly editorial...

the truth hurts

Actually I think that the Sasquatch and Yeti would technically be in the same class as James Toney.

Actually I think that the Sasquatch and Yeti would technically be in the same class as James Toney.

Funny...as they would all hand your crush Vitali a beating.

Toney was just toying with him the whole time.

Toney has looked great in his last few outtings - but i still want to see hi in with a top ten heavy before I will be a believer. I think he is in the mix - but he really needs to fight some of the big guys - that are not over the hill. He has the ability ant I am sure he could beat up Ruiz or Brewster and likely Byrd - but we have never seen him in with big guys like VK. He is without a doubt a better boxer the the brothers Klit, but VK is way bigger and he uses his size. I was really looking forward to Toney v McCline, that would have told alot. I just think Toney can't be calling everyone "garbage" and then fight a 40+ Holy and Booker - what does that really prove. I am looking forward to seeing Toneys up and comming fights - I hope he turnes out to be for real as a heavy.

By Brad Cooney

When I turned on the television the other night to tune into the Toney/Booker fight, I was pretty confident that Toney would would hand this guy his first loss. Well, I saw exactly that, and more.....

James Toney beat this guy like a rag doll for 12 rounds.. The truth of the matter is that this fight should have been stopped long before the final 12th round. Booker was even glancing at his corner with a look of desperation as if saying "My God, will somebody throw in the towell"???.... Booker just decided to take a knee and save his own hide.. I guess he figured if the Referee, and his own corner wouldn't do it, he would.

Toney came out of his corner in each round like a caged animal let free. Toney looked in pretty darn good shape for Toney Standards as well.. He punished Booker with jabs, rights.. and a brilliant upper cut that found its mark with just about every attempt. When you looked into the corner of James Toney, it was like looking at a well oiled machine..

Freddie Roach calmly sitting in front of Toney between each round giving advice, and some suggestions..and Toney just sort of relaxing on the stool listening... With the Roach, Toney connection, I see World Champion written all of it! Booker was just plain and simply out classed by Toney... I will say this however.. Booker showed me that he has a heart of a lion.. He at least tried his best.. he didn't go down in defeat fighting like someone just trying to survive.. he at least tried to throw punches to the best of his ability. But Toney was just too much for him.

I look forward to Toney's next fights.. no matter who it may be, they better be ready.. James Toney to me, looks like a hungry animal on the prowl for prey...

Also an important factor in the fight was that Toney hurt his left arm.

If he can take the (top) HW punches he will definitely be a force in the HW division. I hope to see him against top 10 HW this year, and also against Vitali for the title.

toney has mad skills and when healthy could beat any heavyweight out there....it's too bad rahman will knock out vitali before james can get to him.....yo how do you post a new thread

.....yo how do you post a new thread
In the forum page
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=3
press NEW THREAD left (top) side of the screen.

On Roy Jones:
"If he want he can see me in street, we can do that all day, I love street fighting."

Toney is the most talented hgeavyweight out there, the question is will he stay healthy long enough to fight the top heavyweights?

james toney is one of the best fighters in any weight division in the world and skill wise is so far above any heavyweight in the game today. the only thing thing that could stop him is injuries. injury free, he should win one of the belts this year.

meehan sucks...and holyfield was 43 years old...toneys wins means nothing

toney has mad skills and when healthy could beat any heavyweight out there....it's too bad rahman will knock out vitali before james can get to him.....yo how do you post a new thread


....lol lol lol yeah right. Rahman will get a severe beating from Vit and Toney would never step in the ring with him. He would get crushed by either Klit.

Tony is very skilled innded however VK would utterly kill him.

Tony is very skilled innded however VK would utterly kill him.
we'll hopefully see.

Vitali has Toneys # and would walk right through him within 8 rounds, Hell Corries Sandres would also kill Toney

I would like to see this fight just to see the look on Toney's face when he losses the fight

he'll look like this http://www.maxboxing.com/Media/johnruiz.jpg

Vitali has Toneys # and would walk right through him within 8 rounds, Hell Corries Sandres would also kill Toney

I would like to see this fight just to see the look on Toney's face when he losses the fight

he'll look like this http://www.maxboxing.com/Media/johnruiz.jpg

....I agree, and I also think Sanders would take out Byrd, Ruiz, Brewster, and possibly Rahman if given a second chance. All four would be crazy to give Sanders a fight.

If Booker fought either Wladimir or Vitali, Booker would have been knocked out by the 3rd round. Toney could not finish this guy off. Yeah Toney looked great in disposing us of a drug dealing bum. (sarcasm mode turned off)

If Booker fought either Wladimir or Vitali, Booker would have been knocked out by the 3rd round. Toney could not finish this guy off....

...with one arm. What does Vitali do when his arm hurts?

Wladimir Ko's Booker like he did with Ross Puritty?

But more importantly: fights are won when two fighters meet each other in the ring....not who got the common opponent out first.

Lets hope Vitali survives Rahman, and faces Toney next after, we can find out where his place with the current heavyweights is.
:)

What's Toney going to do in the meantime? Fight another couple of bums in the heavyweight division blow up his record so that people continue to think he is the greatest heavyweight to come around in 15 years? If Vitali defeats Rahman and Lewis holds true to his word Vitali will be fighting Lewis later in the year. Toney will not get a chance at Vitali, that is why he should focus on fighting Ruiz or Byrd.

If Toney did not injure himself, he would have won by KO. The ref could easily have stopped it before the end.

Also, you guys are overrating Sanders just a hair. He is not the second best heavyweight out there.

it seems that some people just hate toney, and no matter how many people he beats he will never gain there respect. but i can't wait to see him beat Bryd and VK just to show every one he is the real deal

it seems that some people just hate toney, and no matter how many people he beats he will never gain there respect.

Why do you say that? It's not like he has a long list of wins at heavyweight!

Why do you say that? It's not like he has a long list of wins at heavyweight!

yes but he has been fighting and winning for years, Fighters change weight classes all the time.

i've been watching toney since 1991 and he is by far the best boxer in the hw division, in the booker fight (which was his first fight after injury) he got injured in the first round, but still went the distance and won every round. what did vitali do against byrd? time will tell but if he loses against vitali or any other hw this year you can all take the piss out of me for backing toney. everybody is so hung up on klitchko that when someone gets him in the ring and makes him look the bum he is, this forum will go deathly quiet, it'll be like pac losing! ha ha.

i've been watching toney since 1991 and he is by far the best boxer in the hw division, in the booker fight (which was his first fight after injury) he got injured in the first round, but still went the distance and won every round. what did vitali do against byrd? time will tell but if he loses against vitali or any other hw this year you can all take the piss out of me for backing toney. everybody is so hung up on klitchko that when someone gets him in the ring and makes him look the bum he is, this forum will go deathly quiet, it'll be like pac losing! ha ha.


...Look no further than Toney/Jirov to see where Toney stands. Jirov got pounded and was easily outboxed by Mesi until Mesi ran out of steam. Moorer hurt him with big punches throughout the fight and when he put a couple together he showed that Jirov is no true heavyweight and can't take a heavyweight punch. Jirov gave Toney a fit for the entire fight and most feel the scoring was BS and it was anyones fight until the last round that Toney took control of and dropped Jirov at the end. For Toney to struggle with Jirov is a sure sign he is in deep **** if he ever fights a legit heavy in his prime. And yeah, obviously that excludes Evander in his current state.

you think jirov was in the fight till the last round? i must be watching a different fight. toney schooled his ass for the entire fight, alot of jirov's punches were blocked or missed. i'm a toney fan but i'm no schoolboy nuthugger and i knew as soon as the fight was signed jirov was beaten.

Here is something for all the Toney lovers to hang their hats onto.

http://www.**********.net/pages/free2044.htm

you think jirov was in the fight till the last round? i must be watching a different fight. toney schooled his ass for the entire fight, alot of jirov's punches were blocked or missed. i'm a toney fan but i'm no schoolboy nuthugger and i knew as soon as the fight was signed jirov was beaten.


...yeah, start a poll and ask if people thought the fight between he and Jirov was closer than the scores and if it could have gone either way up until that last round

toney is a great boxer, but unfortunately i think that at 36 he's past his prime, especially if he stays in the heavyweight division. since he's a little guy he needs speed to get inside the bigger guys' reach and do some damage, and speed is one of the first things that boxers seem to loose as they get older. if toney was 29 right now i'd say that he definitely had a shot at being heavyweight champ, but as it is i think that he should drop back down to light heavyweight and try to cap off his impressive carrear by winning the title there and then retiring.

Toney is the man

mcline talks better than he fights. when he gets in the ring he has sparring partner mentality. he fights like he's been paid to give the other guy a workout.

I believe had Toney been in there with McCline November 13, Toney would have stopped him.

...yeah, start a poll and ask if people thought the fight between he and Jirov was closer than the scores and if it could have gone either way up until that last round

From what I can remember, I thought it was very close going into the last round - Jirov certainly had a shot at winning it.

Lederman had the fight scored as a draw if I remember correctly.

(though my memory is a little hazy)

james toney is too fat
to win the title. he aint
even in good shape. the
champion should be lean
and mean not have *****
tits like toney. he is
just too fat. no way
can he ever be heavyweight champion.

well, he'll be as much of a champion as Byrd or Vitali is should he defeat Ruiz

I personally think Toney is too heavy for his frame, and his joints, and I think we will see more Toney injuries in the future. IMO, with regard to technical skill, he is at least second best in the heavyweight division, possibly behind Byrd, but against VK, he isn't strong enough to work inside, or to keep VK off him to win the decision, as we all know VK won't even be wobbled against Toney, and not tall or quick enough to get inside from long range, even if he could fight VK inside. He's a great fighter, no doubt, but a KO win over VK is reaching, and I think Byrd would take a decision over him, if Byrd moves like he used to.

And I think he'll get a draw, or eek out a really close decision against Ruiz.

And I think he'll get a draw, or eek out a really close decision against Ruiz.

he will TKO Ruiz in about 7 rounds

I think that Ruiz gets frustrated and dq's himself in 7 rounds. Warning for holdings in rounds 1,2,3 One point for holding round 4. One point for hitting low round 5. DQ round 7 for holding/hitting off the break.

By Brad Cooney

When I turned on the television the other night to tune into the Toney/Booker fight, I was pretty confident that Toney would would hand this guy his first loss. Well, I saw exactly that, and more.....

James Toney beat this guy like a rag doll for 12 rounds.. The truth of the matter is that this fight should have been stopped long before the final 12th round. Booker was even glancing at his corner with a look of desperation as if saying "My God, will somebody throw in the towell"???.... Booker just decided to take a knee and save his own hide.. I guess he figured if the Referee, and his own corner wouldn't do it, he would.

Toney came out of his corner in each round like a caged animal let free. Toney looked in pretty darn good shape for Toney Standards as well.. He punished Booker with jabs, rights.. and a brilliant upper cut that found its mark with just about every attempt. When you looked into the corner of James Toney, it was like looking at a well oiled machine..

Freddie Roach calmly sitting in front of Toney between each round giving advice, and some suggestions..and Toney just sort of relaxing on the stool listening... With the Roach, Toney connection, I see World Champion written all of it! Booker was just plain and simply out classed by Toney... I will say this however.. Booker showed me that he has a heart of a lion.. He at least tried his best.. he didn't go down in defeat fighting like someone just trying to survive.. he at least tried to throw punches to the best of his ability. But Toney was just too much for him.

I look forward to Toney's next fights.. no matter who it may be, they better be ready.. James Toney to me, looks like a hungry animal on the prowl for prey...
James Toney..in a class of his own ?????

He's only in a class of his own at being a loud, arrogant, insuler, self-important, bull**** talking, dickhead... LOL!...

Being a loud shouting, arrogant, self-important, bull**** talking dickhead... Doesn't make you any better at boxing.

James Toney represents the WWF wrestling side of boxing, (I reckon most James Toney fans buy these crazy priced WWF wrestling PPV events!)... It's all about the shouting and play acting - which is what he does!

He's a heavyweight that's only just inside the top 10 heavies in the World... So by that he's definatly not "James Toney..in a class of his own".

Toney will get KO'ed within his next 3 heavyweight fights!
http://boxingweb.mulcahy.net/picofweek/bookertoney122304.jpg

I like Toney and he may not get exploited too bad againt Ruiz but he will suffer if he gets in with a talented big heavyweight with any kind of punch ... I know, I know, there's no one around who exactly fits that description.

Just saying, if there were a Lennox Lewis around today ....

ruiz is a top 10 heavyweight

I like Toney and he may not get exploited too bad againt Ruiz but he will suffer if he gets in with a talented big heavyweight with any kind of punch ... I know, I know, there's no one around who exactly fits that description.

Just saying, if there were a Lennox Lewis around today ....

you speak as though Toney is not a skilled fighter himself. Toney is the best Skilled fighter in the HW div, Bryd is the only fighter who even comes close the the skill of toney. If he was to get in a fight with a talented HW then it would be a good fight in no way would he be domanated.

toney has mad skills and when healthy could beat any heavyweight out there....it's too bad rahman will knock out vitali before james can get to him.....yo how do you post a new thread

i totally agree

By Brad Cooney

When I turned on the television the other night to tune into the Toney/Booker fight, I was pretty confident that Toney would would hand this guy his first loss. Well, I saw exactly that, and more.....

James Toney beat this guy like a rag doll for 12 rounds.. The truth of the matter is that this fight should have been stopped long before the final 12th round. Booker was even glancing at his corner with a look of desperation as if saying "My God, will somebody throw in the towell"???.... Booker just decided to take a knee and save his own hide.. I guess he figured if the Referee, and his own corner wouldn't do it, he would.

Toney came out of his corner in each round like a caged animal let free. Toney looked in pretty darn good shape for Toney Standards as well.. He punished Booker with jabs, rights.. and a brilliant upper cut that found its mark with just about every attempt. When you looked into the corner of James Toney, it was like looking at a well oiled machine..

Freddie Roach calmly sitting in front of Toney between each round giving advice, and some suggestions..and Toney just sort of relaxing on the stool listening... With the Roach, Toney connection, I see World Champion written all of it! Booker was just plain and simply out classed by Toney... I will say this however.. Booker showed me that he has a heart of a lion.. He at least tried his best.. he didn't go down in defeat fighting like someone just trying to survive.. he at least tried to throw punches to the best of his ability. But Toney was just too much for him.

I look forward to Toney's next fights.. no matter who it may be, they better be ready.. James Toney to me, looks like a hungry animal on the prowl for prey... I couldn't agree more.Thanks!

ruiz is a top 10 heavyweightA top ten punching bag.When I think palooka I think of Ruiz.

Toney will get KO'ed within his next 3 heavyweight fights!
http://boxingweb.mulcahy.net/picofweek/bookertoney122304.jpg

this was posted last year, so i guess you where wrong about that.