Well i know some of you may not care
but recently i got in an argument,
with my dad who love boxing, about the
greatest mexican fighter of all time,
i mean you can make a case for Alot of them.

so what do you guys think

Well i know some of you may not care
but recently i got in an argument,
with my dad who love boxing, about the
greatest mexican fighter of all time,
i mean you can make a case for Alot of them.

so what do you guys think
didnt u hear?
its Rocky Juarez
hes also the best featherweight ever!!
:D

JCC or Finito Lopez I think

I would go with JCC. Had Salvator Sanches lived, I think he may have surpassed JCC. Just specultation of course.

Well i know some of you may not care
but recently i got in an argument,
with my dad who love boxing, about the
greatest mexican fighter of all time,
i mean you can make a case for Alot of them.

so what do you guys think


Ricardo Lopez.. Also gets my vote as the most underrated Mexican fighter of all time.

Chavez hands down! Only 6 losses in more than 100 fights. 90 consecutive wins! :boxing: :biggthump Stayed too long though. :o

jcc faught a lot of nobodys though untill way later

I say Roberto Duran in his prime he was a freak of nature.

I say Roberto Duran in his prime he was a freak of nature.
Duran is from Panama.

Duran is from Panama.


yeah Duran is not Mexican

Julio Cesar Chavez, but Lopez and Sanchez come in at the top of the food chain

Salvador Sanchez is the greatest Mexican fighter Ever (even if he had a short stint) followed by JCC and Finito.

I like Pipino Cuevas but why is he in the IBHOF?? :D :D

I like Pipino Cuevas but why is he in the IBHOF?? :D :D

Yeah. He was one of the popular boxers in the Duran-Hearns era but his record is not really that impressive. :confused:

Salvador Sanchez is the greatest Mexican fighter Ever (even if he had a short stint) followed by JCC and Finito.

I like Pipino Cuevas but why is he in the IBHOF?? :D :D

Probably because he was a warrior that always made fights entertaining even if he didnt win all of them.

Chavez is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time. Not so much for his record but because he was dominant against quality opposition in his prime.

Probably because he was a warrior that always made fights entertaining even if he didnt win all of them.


I've watched some of his fights when I was a kid...liked him (yeah with a name Pipino :D ) But that fight with Hearns stayed on my memory up to this day. Groggy...groggy...BULLSEYE!! Damn was that a hit!!

http://martin_bradford.tripod.com/boxing/sanchez.jpg

Chavez is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time. Not so much for his record but because he was dominant against quality opposition in his prime.


No doubt. Chavez is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time, and I'd even go as far to say as a top three Welter of all time.

He had every physical attribute a great fighter could ask for- a considerably thicker skull than the average man, allowing him to weather the toughest of storms, he could fight inside exceptionally, had a nice overhand right/right cross, plus a huge heart, he had all the tools. His only flaw was being susceptible to cuts, that is the only flaw Chavez has.

You gotta give him all the respect, the guy has been fighting professionally for over 25 years. 25 years, for a brawling fighter that welcomes wars is an eternity for a fighter of his style. No other warring brawler reigned like him, and he will be remembered and studied forever...

No doubt. Chavez is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time, and I'd even go as far to say as a top three Welter of all time.

He had every physical attribute a great fighter could ask for- a considerably thicker skull than the average man, allowing him to weather the toughest of storms, he could fight inside exceptionally, had a nice overhand right/right cross, plus a huge heart, he had all the tools. His only flaw was being susceptible to cuts, that is the only flaw Chavez has.

You gotta give him all the respect, the guy has been fighting professionally for over 25 years. 25 years, for a brawling fighter that welcomes wars is an eternity for a fighter of his style. No other warring brawler reigned like him, and he will be remembered and studied forever...

Chavez wasnt a welter in his prime and also didnt cut in his prime.

His thicker skull (If its even true) wouldnt help him not being kd. as rattling the brain is still rattling the brain. The man's condition was just always on top in prime. 12,000 feet altitude training training for 15 rounds while a lot of people had already started training for 12.

He was very technically sound many people dont give him credit for that. But when you see a fight of his keep an eye on his gloves he changes the position of them probably more than any fighter of that Era blocking uppercuts, jabs, rights etc.

No doubt. Chavez is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time, and I'd even go as far to say as a top three Welter of all time.

He had every physical attribute a great fighter could ask for- a considerably thicker skull than the average man, allowing him to weather the toughest of storms, he could fight inside exceptionally, had a nice overhand right/right cross, plus a huge heart, he had all the tools. His only flaw was being susceptible to cuts, that is the only flaw Chavez has.

You gotta give him all the respect, the guy has been fighting professionally for over 25 years. 25 years, for a brawling fighter that welcomes wars is an eternity for a fighter of his style. No other warring brawler reigned like him, and he will be remembered and studied forever...

Chavez's prime was at light and junior welter. Top 5 all time in both divisions for sure. Oh, and he was NEVER cut in his prime. He had like a plastic face or something.

Anyway, my all time mexican p4p list goes like this:

1. Salvador Sanchez
1(t) Julio Cesar Chavez
3. Finito Lopez
4. Carlos Zarate
5. Marco Antonio Barrera
5(t) Eric Morales
7. Ruben "Púas" Olivares
8. Raúl "Ratón" Macías
9. Miguel Canto
10. Pipino Cuevas
11. Alfonso Zamora
12. Lupe Pintor
13. Chucho Castillo
14. Juan "Kid" Meza
15. Humberto "Chiquita" González

Other notables: Daniel Zaragoza, Juan Manuel Márquez, Miguel Angel González, José Luis Ramírez, Jorge "Maromero" Paez
11.

Oscar wants to be Mexican sometimes, so does Fernando, but their parents snuck across the border long before they were born!

I would have to say it is a toss up between Salvador and Chavez.
Depending on if you want to go by long careers or not...

Chavez's prime was at light and junior welter. Top 5 all time in both divisions for sure. Oh, and he was NEVER cut in his prime. He had like a plastic face or something.

Anyway, my all time mexican p4p list goes like this:

1. Salvador Sanchez
1(t) Julio Cesar Chavez
3. Finito Lopez
4. Carlos Zarate
5. Marco Antonio Barrera
5(t) Eric Morales
7. Ruben "Púas" Olivares
8. Raúl "Ratón" Macías
9. Miguel Canto
10. Pipino Cuevas
11. Alfonso Zamora
12. Lupe Pintor
13. Chucho Castillo
14. Juan "Kid" Meza
15. Humberto "Chiquita" González

Other notables: Daniel Zaragoza, Juan Manuel Márquez, Miguel Angel González, José Luis Ramírez, Jorge "Maromero" Paez
11.

WE have about the same list Morancito...except I'd put Olivares and Canto maybe a step higher. :boxing:

Chavez's prime was at light and junior welter. Top 5 all time in both divisions for sure. Oh, and he was NEVER cut in his prime. He had like a plastic face or something.

Anyway, my all time mexican p4p list goes like this:

1. Salvador Sanchez
1(t) Julio Cesar Chavez
3. Finito Lopez
4. Carlos Zarate
5. Marco Antonio Barrera
5(t) Eric Morales
7. Ruben "Púas" Olivares
8. Raúl "Ratón" Macías
9. Miguel Canto
10. Pipino Cuevas
11. Alfonso Zamora
12. Lupe Pintor
13. Chucho Castillo
14. Juan "Kid" Meza
15. Humberto "Chiquita" González

Other notables: Daniel Zaragoza, Juan Manuel Márquez, Miguel Angel González, José Luis Ramírez, Jorge "Maromero" Paez
11.
id switch those two
MABs been beat by other fighters
Eriks only lost to MAB
plus Erik got the three division title b4 MAB
nm i just saw u have them as a tie
well either way id have erik one up on mab
plus hes just kooler!!
:D

WE have about the same list Morancito...except I'd put Olivares and Canto maybe a step higher. :boxing:

Not Olivares. The six boxers I have ahead of him are positively better, imo. Now with Canto you might have a case. Was tempted to move him up a spot or two, but Olivares and Macias are two of the most revered Mexican boxers of all time. That had a little to do with it.

id switch those two
MABs been beat by other fighters
Eriks only lost to MAB
plus Erik got the three division title b4 MAB
nm i just saw u have them as a tie
well either way id have erik one up on mab
plus hes just kooler!!
:D


You can switch it all you want...it's still a TIE......LOL :D :D

Oscar wants to be Mexican sometimes, so does Fernando, but their parents snuck across the border long before they were born!

I would have to say it is a toss up between Salvador and Chavez.
Depending on if you want to go by long careers or not...Their still Mexicans, they should be included, I would make a list but I havent seen much (if any) of the old school :cool:

This might be true!.... as one writer (Angel Zurita) claimed that he was half-mexican.... is this true? Can anyone confirm this?
Dont let Duran hear you, he might go off :D

I say Roberto Duran in his prime he was a freak of nature.


This might be true!.... as one writer (Angel Zurita) claimed that he was half-mexican.... is this true? Can anyone confirm this?

oscar de la hoya...great fighters move thru weight divions and get belts.. (hearns leonard jones jr de la hoya)

isnt manny pac mexican?

Almost 100% sure Duran is half Mexican.

Top 5 Mexican fighters of all time.

1. JC Chavez
2. Salvador Sanchez
3. Ricardo Lopez
4. Ruben Olivares
5. Carlos Zarate

Thats not including Mexican/American fighters like DLH, Tapia and Carbajal

oscar de la hoya...great fighters move thru weight divions and get belts.. (hearns leonard jones jr de la hoya)

de la hoya is not mexican
he doesnt fight like a mexican
he doesnt look like a mexican
he fougth for the US in the olympics
we gave the rights over him
to the US a long time ago

de la hoya is not mexican
he doesnt fight like a mexican
he doesnt look like a mexican
he fougth for the US in the olympics
we gave the rights over him
to the US a long time ago


gave the right to the US for DLH man that doesnt sound right at all

de la hoya is not mexican
he doesnt fight like a mexican
he doesnt look like a mexican
he fougth for the US in the olympics
we gave the rights over him
to the US a long time ago


DLH is Chicano. Why is he not "Mexican" enough for you? because he doesn't act like fool? or maybe because he doesnt make an ass out of himself everytime he opens his mouth?

DLH is Chicano. Why is he not "Mexican" enough for you? because he doesn't act like fool? or maybe because he doesnt make an ass out of himself everytime he opens his mouth?

he aint ****ing mexican
he what kind of boxer would try to sing
and not even rap but ****ing
country/pop mexican music i go nothgint
against chicanos but DLH aint Mexican
and Mexicans dont act like fools
idk wtf you are talking about.

he aint ****ing mexican
he what kind of boxer would try to sing
and not even rap but ****ing
country/pop mexican music i go nothgint
against chicanos but DLH aint Mexican
and Mexicans dont act like fools
idk wtf you are talking about.


Thats exactly what im talking about.

"he what kind of boxer would try to sing
and not even rap but ****ing
country/pop mexican music"

"he doesnt fight like a mexican
he doesnt look like a mexican"

Julio Ceasar Chavez. No doubt about it.

Thats exactly what im talking about.

"he what kind of boxer would try to sing
and not even rap but ****ing
country/pop mexican music"

"he doesnt fight like a mexican
he doesnt look like a mexican"


He doesnt fight like a Mexican LOL!!! He made Chavez face look like a pizza pie and in their second fight Chavez quit on his stool like a little overrated ***** that he is!! And yes.. The Chavez that fought Meldrick Taylor would have gotten ripped up by DLH in his prime.

I'm obviously not counting De la Hoya. He's Mexican by law and all, but I mean, he fought for the US in the Olympics. And the cynic in me says DLH asking for the Mexican nationality was a PR move.

Almost 100% sure Duran is half Mexican.

Top 5 Mexican fighters of all time.

1. JC Chavez
2. Salvador Sanchez
3. Ricardo Lopez
4. Ruben Olivares
5. Carlos Zarate

Thats not including Mexican/American fighters like DLH, Tapia and Carbajal

That's a solid list, though Olivares is too high, imo. Both MAB and Morales have surpassed him in accomplishments in my book.

He doesnt fight like a Mexican LOL!!! He made Chavez face look like a pizza pie and in their second fight Chavez quit on his stool like a little overrated ***** that he is!! And yes.. The Chavez that fought Meldrick Taylor would have gotten ripped up by DLH in his prime.

A prime Chavez would have minced a prime DLH to pieces. Your thinking otherwise tells me all I need to know about your boxing knowledge.

He doesnt fight like a Mexican LOL!!! He made Chavez face look like a pizza pie and in their second fight Chavez quit on his stool like a little overrated ***** that he is!! And yes.. The Chavez that fought Meldrick Taylor would have gotten ripped up by DLH in his prime.


Thats just stupid. Chavez was already an old man by then.

A prime Chavez would have minced a prime DLH to pieces. Your thinking otherwise tells me all I need to know about your boxing knowledge.



Whatever dude get a grip.. Chavez got this biggest gift any fighter has ever gotten against Meldrick Taylor.. That was the biggest travesty in the history of professional boxing. It was almost as bad as RJJ being denied the Gold Medal in Seoul..

Thats just stupid. Chavez was already an old man by then.


Whats the excuse against Pernell Whitaker? He wasnt an old man then. It took two ripoffs to get Chavez a Win, and then a draw against two of the toughest opponents of his career.

He doesnt fight like a Mexican LOL!!! He made Chavez face look like a pizza pie and in their second fight Chavez quit on his stool like a little overrated ***** that he is!! And yes.. The Chavez that fought Meldrick Taylor would have gotten ripped up by DLH in his prime.


I agree with the other guys
a prime Chavez would have distroyed
the golden boy.

imo DLH in his prime could beat alot of people even JCC dlh is great

imo DLH in his prime could beat alot of people even JCC dlh is great


Not to mention that Sweet Pea would have ripped Chavez up and humiliated him.. Oh I forget he already did!!

imo DLH in his prime could beat alot of people even JCC dlh is great


No Way
Chavez in his prime was better than DLH

dlh lacks the heart to compete in a real war with jcc.

Not to mention that Sweet Pea would have ripped Chavez up and humiliated him.. Oh I forget he already did!!

yeah he beated an old man
how proud he must be,
i dont get his approach
towards trying to be a
great mexican hero
by beating, Mexico's highest boxing icon
up, after he go old, not once but two ****ing times

Whatever dude get a grip.. Chavez got this biggest gift any fighter has ever gotten against Meldrick Taylor.. That was the biggest travesty in the history of professional boxing.

This has been discussed in many threads, but I still wonder, what the hell does that have to do with the fact that a prime Chavez would tear apart a prime DLH? Beats me.

Few boxers in the history of the sport would have beaten a prime Chavez. DLH is definately not one of them.

yeah he beated an old man
how proud he must be,
i dont get his approach
towards trying to be a
great mexican hero
by beating, Mexico's highest boxing icon
up, after he go old, not once but two ****ing times


Whatever man.. What makes you think Sweet Pea was anymore in his prime than Chavez was when they fought.. Please don't make excuses for Chavez.. I'll buy the "he was over the hill" arguement when he fought DLH.. He was in his prime when he fought Taylor and was handed a gift, and he was when he got manhandled by Pete Whitaker.. Whitaker beats Chavez every time they fight because of his style.. He sat in the pocket and picked Chavez apart.. It was beatiful!!

It's the Frito Bandito.......

Well i know some of you may not care
but recently i got in an argument,
with my dad who love boxing, about the
greatest mexican fighter of all time,
i mean you can make a case for Alot of them.

so what do you guys think


I can't think of a single one.
For me its a tossup between Chavez & Benitez

Whatever man.. What makes you think Sweet Pea was anymore in his prime than Chavez was when they fought.. Please don't make excuses for Chavez.. I'll buy the "he was over the hill" arguement when he fought DLH.. He was in his prime when he fought Taylor and was handed a gift, and he was when he got manhandled by Pete Whitaker.. Whitaker beats Chavez every time they fight because of his style.. He sat in the pocket and picked Chavez apart.. It was beatiful!!


yeah yeah
keep crying :crying: about the Taylor fight
like Oldgringo said
if i wanted to hear from an ******* like you
i would fart.

yeah yeah
keep crying :crying: about the Taylor fight
like Oldgringo said
if i wanted to hear from an ******* like you
i would fart.


Thats great that you resort to name calling!! You still havent addressed the Whitaker robbery either..

Whatever man.. What makes you think Sweet Pea was anymore in his prime than Chavez was when they fought.. Please don't make excuses for Chavez.. I'll buy the "he was over the hill" arguement when he fought DLH.. He was in his prime when he fought Taylor and was handed a gift, and he was when he got manhandled by Pete Whitaker.. Whitaker beats Chavez every time they fight because of his style.. He sat in the pocket and picked Chavez apart.. It was beatiful!!

Clearly, you're too ignorant to even know the meaning of the word "prime" when it comes to boxing. JC was two years older than Sweet Pea, and had fought over 50 times more than him at a professional level. That's a little difference, right? Not to mention Whitaker's prime was at welter, while JC's prime was one or maybe two weight categories lower.

Again, this has nothing to do with the fact that a prime JC dissects a prime DLH.

Thats great that you resort to name calling!! You still havent addressed the Whitaker robbery either..


So anyother fight that you didnt like and
wanna complain???
i mean i love to adress every fight in which the decition
didnt convince you
ill be happy to make excuses for all of them :crying:

I can't think of a single one.
For me its a tossup between Chavez & Benitez

Benitez? If you mean Wilfred, then you got the nationality wrong, because he's Puerto Rican.

If you mean Salvador, then you got the last name wrong because it's Sanchez. Salvador Sánchez.

Benitez? If you mean Wilfred, then you got the nationality wrong, because he's Puerto Rican.

If you mean Salvador, then you got the last name wrong because it's Sanchez. Salvador Sánchez.

lol any other possibility you left out???

Trying to knock any fighter for losing to Pernell Whitaker is just flat out stupid. Whitaker himself was an all time great and a legend. When defense is brought up in the boxing world its always a toss up between Pep and Whitaker.

As far as Taylor goes Chavez WON that fight deal with it. They did have a rematch and Chavez gave him a wicked ass whoopin, but thats right ignore the rematch because it doesn't fit your argument.

Benitez? If you mean Wilfred, then you got the nationality wrong, because he's Puerto Rican.

If you mean Salvador, then you got the last name wrong because it's Sanchez. Salvador Sánchez.


I stand corrected about Benitez.
Then its Chavez for me, Julio Cesar Chavez, not Sal Sanchez...

Julio Cesar Chavez has to be the greatest mexican boxer ever, no doubt

too bad he was before my team i cant really judge him... for me in my time im young so i say erik morales.... hes always fighting win or lose hes always fighting every 3 months theres a new fight for him this guys awesome.

Manny Pacquiao will beat all those mexicans anyway...

my vote goes to Salvador 'Sal' Sanchez, the complete package...
JCC is number 2.

Manny Pacquiao will beat all those mexicans anyway...


It's because of these kind of nuthugging comments that pacfans are not being respected. This thread is for mexican fighters.

Anak nang puga ganda ganda nang usapan sisingitan mo nang ganyan!! :mad:

trans: We have a good topic here please do not mess it up!! :mad:

It's because of these kind of nuthugging comments that pacfans are not being respected. This thread is for mexican fighters.

Anak nang puga ganda ganda nang usapan sisingitan mo nang ganyan!! :mad:

trans: We have a good topic here please do not mess it up!! :mad:

Thank you man
seriusly
why does that kid have to come here and
try to talk crap

IMHO

1. Chavez
2. Finito
3. ?????

IMHO

1. Chavez
2. Finito
3. ?????


Salvador Sanchez

i gotta go with chavez

Chavez and then Sanches in my book as the two greatest Mexican fighters. Just to add to the prime Chavez vs prime Delahoya - there would be no contest Chavez would break the golden boy down. When Chavez beat an opponent they never fought the same EVER again.

Chavez and then Sanches in my book as the two greatest Mexican fighters. Just to add to the prime Chavez vs prime Delahoya - there would be no contest Chavez would break the golden boy down. When Chavez beat an opponent they never fought the same EVER again.

That's true. Chavez practically retired Jose Luis Ramirez, and others like Taylor, Rosario, Laporte and even Mayweather Sr. were never the same again.

theres alot of truth to that statement, because it's the reality

no disrespect to B-Hop, but B-Hop wins fights. Chavez doesn't only just win the fight, he retires his opponents

i bet chavez has pureblood aztec in him,those guys were true conquerers ,aztec empire was the fastest growing empire in the history of mankind..until cortez's conquistadors punked them

theres alot of truth to that statement, because it's the reality

no disrespect to B-Hop, but B-Hop wins fights. Chavez doesn't only just win the fight, he retires his opponents

i bet chavez has pureblood aztec in him,those guys were true conquerers ,aztec empire was the fastest growing empire in the history of mankind..that is until cortez owned them


lol Cortez's people got slaughtered by the aztecs
Cortez's diseases killed more than half the
Aztec population, but yeah
he gets credit as a conqueror.

Aztecs had never been in contact with chikenpox
until the spaniards

Chavez and then Sanches in my book as the two greatest Mexican fighters. Just to add to the prime Chavez vs prime Delahoya - there would be no contest Chavez would break the golden boy down. When Chavez beat an opponent they never fought the same EVER again.
yeah yeah yeah
de la hoya still would have owned chavez
and Sanchez was the greatest mexican ever

de la hoya still would have owned chavez


are you ****ing serious ? lol....dlh lacked the heart to compete with chavez in a war, if you don't understand that, im sry..picture chavez landing those hard right hands like he did vs taylor, DLH would quit or get kod

yeah yeah yeah
de la hoya still would have owned chavez
and Sanchez was the greatest mexican ever


Boy DLH could have gotten
killed by Chavez,
i know he lost the Meldrik Taylor Figth
but did you guys see and heard his punches
in the last two rounds, holy**** they where
pretty damn hard.

i doubt it
did you ever see the fight with Ike Quartey?
He pulled out the most amazing 12th round to win that fight, that is heart
and he had a lot more power than Chavez did.
As regards the tito fight he thought he had the fight in the bag and ran, he made a mistake.
Chavez=Owned :D

lol Cortez's people got slaughtered by the aztecs
Cortez's diseases killed more than half the
Aztec population, but yeah
he gets credit as a conqueror.

Aztecs had never been in contact with chikenpox
until the spaniards


I'm not too up on the history of the Aztecs and Myans, could someone who is Mexican here please explain to me the differeneces between them.. I know Barerra called Morales a stupid Indian before their fight, but I don't understand the ethnical and cultural differences to be able to piece it together. Thanks

i doubt it
did you ever see the fight with Ike Quartey?
He pulled out the most amazing 12th round to win that fight, that is heart


sure, thats 1 fight

chavez has done that in like all of his fights, as far as dlh having more power, Chavez never punched as hard as he could unless he knew he was being truly threatened.

in the later rounds vs taylor in particular, he started throwing his rights full strength, could see his hips getting extra motion and all, BAM, HARD shots, super middleweight shots..

DLH will always be considered a good fighter in my book, but to be great you have to have heart.

I'm not too up on the history of the Aztecs and Myans, could someone who is Mexican here please explain to me the differeneces between them.. I know Barerra called Morales a stupid Indian before their fight, but I don't understand the ethnical and cultural differences to be able to piece it together. Thanks

The Aztecs inhabited the central part of Mexico, what we know today as Mexico City. They also ruled over all the neighbouring towns. They were primarily a warrior state. Contrary to popular belief, the Ateec empire's prime only lasted for about 150 years, from somewhere between 1350 - 1400 to 1521.

The Mayans lived in Southeast Mexico and Central America. They were the most important pre-hispanic culture in Latin America. More than warriors, they were scientists. There are many groups within the Mayan ethnicity and that's why you can find vestiges of their culture all over Mexico and Central America. Their prime was between 900 and 1400 aD.

In Mexico, to be called indian is considered an insult, an insult whose roots come from the colonial times, when being a pure blood indian was the worst thing that could possibly happen to you.

The Aztecs inhabited the central part of Mexico, what we know today as Mexico City. They also ruled over all the neighbouring towns. They were primarily a warrior state. Contrary to popular belief, the Ateec empire's prime only lasted for about 150 years, from somewhere between 1350 - 1400 to 1521.

The Mayans lived in Southeast Mexico and Central America. They were the most important pre-hispanic culture in Latin America. More than warriors, they were scientists. There are many groups within the Mayan ethnicity and that's why you can find vestiges of their culture all over Mexico and Central America. Their prime was between 900 and 1400 aD.

In Mexico, to be called indian is considered an insult, an insult whose roots come from the colonial times, when being a pure blood indian was the worst thing that could possibly happen to you.

they called them indians because
Colon thought he had gotten all the way around
the world and that he was in India,
he had no idea there was a whole other
continient, in the middle.


and that is it for today's history class

Back to the Topic. :boxing:

Back to the Topic. :boxing:

¿Eres Mexicano? ¿De dónde?

¿Eres Mexicano? ¿De dónde?

Naci en el DF
Vivi toda mi vida en
Tamaulipas
pero estoy en NY ahora
y tu?

Naci en el DF
Vivi toda mi vida en
Tamaulipas
pero estoy en NY ahora
y tu?

Nací en el DF y aquí he vivido toda mi vida. Chilango hasta morir :D

¿Qué andas haciendo por NY?

Nací en el DF y aquí he vivido toda mi vida. Chilango hasta morir :D

¿Qué andas haciendo por NY?

Universidad
y tu ?

¿usted considera DLH un gran combatiente?

Universidad
y tu ?

Que chingón. NYU?

Yo trabajo en una Farmacéutica como Gerente de Relaciones Públicas.

Por cierto que estuve en NY para pasar Año Nuevo. Está increíble.

¿usted considera DLH un gran combatiente?


lol
he doesnt fight like a true mexican warrior
only in the hop fight i thought he looked brave

Paren de hablar espanyol, porque no los intiendo. El mejor boxeador Mejicano es Salvador Sanchez. PUNTO y FINAL! :D

...LOL..pls don't respond in espanyol...:D

Paren de hablar espanyol, porque no los intiendo. El mejor boxeador Mejicano es Salvador Sanchez. PUNTO y FINAL! :D

...LOL..pls don't respond in espanyol...:D



lol Espanol,
Mexicano,
and its CHAVEZ!!!

lol Espanol,
Mexicano,
and its CHAVEZ!!!


To bad the keyboard doesn't have the n (enye) as in nino. If it does I don't know what to do (cntrl ? ?)

To bad the keyboard doesn't have the n (enye) as in nino. If it does I don't know what to do (cntrl ? ?)


164
but in my laptop that doesnt work

164
but in my laptop that doesnt work

Well ....doesn't work here too. :(

Naci en el DF
Vivi toda mi vida en
Tamaulipas
pero estoy en NY ahora
y tu?
No manchen! Yo soy de Sonora pero vivo en Los Angeles. :D

Greatest Mexican fighters.

1. Julio Cesar Chavez
2. Salvador Sanchez
3. Ricardo Lopez
After that it will be between Morales or Barrera.

I think when JMM gets the chance to prove himself he should exceed EM or MAB in the list. I think he is better than both.

No manchen! Yo soy de Sonora pero vivo en Los Angeles. :D


East LA i would figure

julio cesar chavez
salvador sanchez
ricardo lopez
marcoantonio barrera
erik morales

Well in a few words

Mexico Is The Land Of The Champoins.


VIVA MEXICO CABRONES!!!!!!

Chavez is the best Mexican fighter!

The best MEXICAN FIGHTER ever is JCC hands down! Over 100 fights with only 8 loses? Common people. Finito should come in second and Salvador Sanchez should be 3rd. Salvador sanchez is a very good fighter but he never got tested just like JCC and Finito because his demise came when he is on the peak of his career. :boxing: :)

The best MEXICAN FIGHTER ever is JCC hands down! Over 100 fights with only 8 loses? Common people. Finito should come in second and Salvador Sanchez should be 3rd. Salvador sanchez is a very good fighter but he never got tested just like JCC and Finito because his demise came when he is on the peak of his career. :boxing: :)

Sorry to disagree with you companyero...LOL :D
JCC can be Mexico's greatest fighter but not hands down. Boxing records are not the only basis for a fighter's greatness.

Salvador Sanchez staged the greatest fight in the lower weight class history. Wilfredo Gomez is the greatest fighter to ever come out of PR but demolishes him... Sanchez was the underdog. He also defeated several other Hall of Famers most specially Azumah Nelson. His ring prowess and smarts is of an utmost high level...and people could just wonder who would win between Sal and JCC in a dream fight.

Finito is great but the problem is very few people care about the minimumweight class...he also wasn't fortunate to unite all the belts...although he would have easily done it, if he was given the oppurtunity.

East LA i would figure
Long Beach.

The best MEXICAN FIGHTER ever is JCC hands down! Over 100 fights with only 8 loses? Common people. Finito should come in second and Salvador Sanchez should be 3rd. Salvador sanchez is a very good fighter but he never got tested just like JCC and Finito because his demise came when he is on the peak of his career. :boxing: :)
damn chavez has lost 3 times i dont know about
i thought he only lost 5 times
anyone got these lost fights?
:D

East LA i would figure

blood in, blood out, cardinale

blood in, blood out, cardinale
Lmao
too funny
:D

damn chavez has lost 3 times i dont know about
i thought he only lost 5 times
anyone got these lost fights?
:D

Only 5:

Randall
DLH (2)
Wise
Zoo

He did lose to Whitaker, to be honest. That does not count on their stats though. :)

blood in, blood out, cardinale


LMAO look ese dont mess with me
or ill cut ya
lmao
thats a sweet movie
the white kid who tries to be mexican
lol cyber sweet movie

LMAO look ese dont mess with me
or ill cut ya
lmao
thats a sweet movie
the white kid who tries to be mexican
lol cyber sweet movie

that's one of the best low budget films of all time

my 2 favorite low budget films:

1. el mariachi
2. blood in ,blood out

that's one of the best low budget films of all time

my 2 favorite low budget films:

1. el mariachi
2. blood in ,blood out


yeah the first one without Banderas of course
if you wanna go low budget
the blair witch project was good

P4P THE BEST FIGHTER FROM MEXICO
http://www.keeme.com/haggis/archives/chapulin.jpg

To bad the keyboard doesn't have the n (enye) as in nino. If it does I don't know what to do (cntrl ? ?)

Its ALT+ 0241

See:

Niño

yeah the first one without Banderas of course
if you wanna go low budget
the blair witch project was good

desparado was too far fetched, plus they used banderas..
I liked the end though, and I got a kick out of the guy with the knife vest that took out that limo..haha

but yeah, El Mariachi is on my top 5 favorite movies of all time. that movie is SO money..

:hijacked: :hijacked:

P4P THE BEST FIGHTER FROM MEXICO
http://www.keeme.com/haggis/archives/chapulin.jpg

dont be hating buddy
dont be hating

El Mariachi... maybe the best modern time low budget film. Robert Rodriguez spent about 7,000 dollars to make that movie. Really put him on the map.

Chavez's prime was at light and junior welter. Top 5 all time in both divisions for sure. Oh, and he was NEVER cut in his prime. He had like a plastic face or something.

Anyway, my all time mexican p4p list goes like this:

1. Salvador Sanchez
1(t) Julio Cesar Chavez
3. Finito Lopez
4. Carlos Zarate
5. Marco Antonio Barrera
5(t) Eric Morales
7. Ruben "Púas" Olivares
8. Raúl "Ratón" Macías
9. Miguel Canto
10. Pipino Cuevas
11. Alfonso Zamora
12. Lupe Pintor
13. Chucho Castillo
14. Juan "Kid" Meza
15. Humberto "Chiquita" González

Other notables: Daniel Zaragoza, Juan Manuel Márquez, Miguel Angel González, José Luis Ramírez, Jorge "Maromero" Paez
11.

IMO, Jose Luis Castillo is better than 1/2 of the guys you named.
he should definitely be on an all time mexican fighter list.

guy's like Morales,MAB, Arce, R Marquez and Castilo are not done yet so I dont think you can rank them right now.

If Morales beats Pac he will be top 5 all time no doubt and if Castillo beats Diaz then Corrales he will probably make the top 10.

I cant watch Blood in Blood out without getting sick to my stomach that movie is a godamn laughing stock.

The best Mexican fighter ever? Julio Ceasar Chavez! Best current? For me it's Marco Antonio Barrera. It's cool you guys like those flicks, man. My favorite dvd has El Mariachi on one side and Desperado on the other. The cat with the knives was ultra cool. :biggthump

The best Mexican fighter ever? Julio Ceasar Chavez! Best current? For me it's Marco Antonio Barrera. It's cool you guys like those flicks, man. My favorite dvd has El Mariachi on one side and Desperado on the other. The cat with the knives was ultra cool. :biggthump

nice,here's some karma..give this man some karma,get rid of that red bar, he likes el mariachi



;-) haha

Sorry to disagree with you companyero...LOL :D
JCC can be Mexico's greatest fighter but not hands down. Boxing records are not the only basis for a fighter's greatness.

Salvador Sanchez staged the greatest fight in the lower weight class history. Wilfredo Gomez is the greatest fighter to ever come out of PR but demolishes him... Sanchez was the underdog. He also defeated several other Hall of Famers most specially Azumah Nelson. His ring prowess and smarts is of an utmost high level...and people could just wonder who would win between Sal and JCC in a dream fight.

Finito is great but the problem is very few people care about the minimumweight class...he also wasn't fortunate to unite all the belts...although he would have easily done it, if he was given the oppurtunity.



Hey SUPREMO . . . no problem if you disagree with me :D . . . we all have our own opinions and we can't agree on everything ;) . . . I was saying hands down because I was considering "longetivity" and "consistency". As previously mentioned the guy has over 100 fights in his credits, never ducking anyone who dares to cross his path. Again for me in my point of view a fighter can only show his greatness by accomplishment and for how long he can maintain his stature plus the ability to come back after a defeat. . . . alright Salvador Sanchez fought Azuman Nelson and Wilfredo Gomez and other equally great fighters but just so with JCC. He fought the best his era could offer . . . and as I said it's unfortunate that Sanchez was unable to prove how great he is because his demise came when he is still on the peak of his career. His reign on top was very short lived. http://img1.yoxio.com/img/136871.gif (http://www.yoxio.com)

nice,here's some karma..give this man some karma,get rid of that red bar, he likes el mariachi



;-) haha
:biggthump Thank you for the good karma. It's much appreciated, although I think it'll just about take an act of God to turn my red line blue. I'm like, minus two million, six hundred thousand and some odd reputation points. :banghead: Wow man! Those are some deadly ass punches you've got goin' in your signature. Rock On!!! :boxing:

Manny Pacquiao will beat all those mexicans anyway...

Where is your ***** ass now buddy???
nowere's to be found is it??
hahahaha

Where is your ***** ass now buddy???
nowere's to be found is it??
hahahaha

LOL !

Finito Lopez was overlooked despite his skillz. JCC of course is the standard by which all Mexican fighters are compared to. Carlos Zarate was also sick. One of the most impressive Kayo records ever

Johhny Tapia was the greatest. Don't respond to this comment because I am not going to argue it, he just was.

Chavez, Finito Lopez, Canto...

I dont know who was the best Mexican fighter but Chavez first like 30 wins came fighting at the local Tijuana boxing club, and he actually had a loss there but its undocumented.

I like Chavez though I wish he would beaten De La Hoya to the ground when they fought if he did not get cut early he might have had a chance to break him down in the later rounds.

well since air-keng asked
i decided to bump this thread up
:D

chavez, lopez, and sanchez

I think Roberto Duran.

I think Roberto Duran.

Duran is from Panama

Damn Duran had an impessive career though.
First fight was in 1968 last in 2001 against Hector Camacho
Won his first Major title in 1973
defended the wba lightweight title from 1973 to 1978
captured WBC lightweight title in in 1978
captured WBC weltwerweight title in 1980 from sugar fay leonard
captured WBC Light middleweight title in 1982 fromWinfred Benitez
captured WBA light middleweight title in 1983 from Davey Moore

Lost barely in bout for undisputed Middleweight title to Marvin Hagler in 1983 judge: Guy Jutras 142-144 | Judge: Yusaku Yoshida 145-146 | Judge: Ove Ovesen 143-144 ~

Won WBC middlewieght title from Iran Barkley in Ring Magazines' fight of the year for 1989






Career Record 103-16 70KO's 1968-2001

Hi.OK PacMan

and Chawez;)

Hi.OK PacMan

wow
how about you go and die???
please just go and die
i promise i wont tell anyone

I dont care how many times he fights again.
Julio Cesar Chavez is done in my book. :(
and since Rick said there is some actuall Pro- Figthers that are members of the board, i hope one of them can tell this to JCC
I want to thank him for giving me and my family all those great moments i think was the greatest Mexican Fighter ever...
he really showed what a true warrior is..
i dont care what you say about the Taylor and Randall fights
to me he was the Greates.
Thanks JCC

I dont care how many times he fights again.
Julio Cesar Chavez is done in my book. :(
and since Rick said there is some actuall Pro- Figthers that are members of the board, i hope one of them can tell this to JCC
I want to thank him for giving me and my family all those great moments i think was the greatest Mexican Fighter ever...
he really showed what a true warrior is..
i dont care what you say about the Taylor and Randall fights
to me he was the Greates.
Thanks JCC

El Jefe,

I am glad you appreciate my accomplishments.
I love all my fellow fans.

Sincerly,
Julio Cesar Chavez

El Jefe,

I am glad you appreciate my accomplishments.
I love all my fellow fans.

Sincerly,
Julio Cesar Chavez
i was serius :o
for once....

i was serius :o
for once....
and i was joking

you know whats cool

I talk to my all time favorite boxer of all times wife

Aaron "The Hawk" Pryor...