Are there many boxers that you think could have been very good world champions if it wasn't for their lack of abilty to take a punch?

Amir Khan.

:lol1:

Amir Khan.

:lol1:

Only a matter of time lol

Tommy Hearns
Zab Judah
Roy Jones Jr.
Lennox Lewis
Floyd Patterson

to name a few. At least Lewis and Hearns redeemed themselves time and time again tho. Patterson on the other hand could have redeemed himself had he not been robbed against Quarry twice and Ellis once.

Tommy Morrison, he had a sweet left hook which generated tremendous power. Who knows how good he could have been if he could take a punch himself

tommy morrison, micheal moore and joe mesi

Errol Christie
Jeremy Williams
Paul 'scrap iron' Ryan
Michael Moorer

I think Frank Bruno had great abilty. He could have beaten Lewis if his hands didn't drop when he got hit.

diego corrales as well

maybe rickey hatton

maybe rickey hatton

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In the early/mid 1990's there was this really quick boxer at super featherweight named Ed Hopson (who is now mostly forgotten).

His chin was exposed in two rounds by Tracy Harris Patterson.

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Carl "The Truth" Williams looked the truth against Larry Holmes, until a washed up Mike Weaver KO'd him in two rounds.

Mark Breland
Floyd Patterson

Are there many boxers that you think could have been very good world champions if it wasn't for their lack of abilty to take a punch?

Alex Ramos
Greg Page
Terry Norris
Charles Brewer

In the early/mid 1990's there was this really quick boxer at super featherweight named Ed Hopson (who is now mostly forgotten).

His chin was exposed in two rounds by Tracy Harris Patterson.

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Carl "The Truth" Williams looked the truth against Larry Holmes, until a washed up Mike Weaver KO'd him in two rounds.

Damn, Patterson looks like a world beater in that clip, extremely fast hands and good footwork. I'm going to have to check out his first fight with Gatti.

Damn, Patterson looks like a world beater in that clip, extremely fast hands and good footwork. I'm going to have to check out his first fight with Gatti.

That's Hopson. :boxing:

I don't have his fight against Patterson. Hopson never amounted to much after that loss.

Here's some footage of Tracy Harris:

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Alex Ramos
Greg Page
Terry Norris
Charles Brewer

I think Page had a pretty solid chin, just very little desire at times.

That's Hopson. :boxing:

I don't have his fight against Patterson. Hopson never amounted to much after that loss.

Here's some footage of Tracy Harris:

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Thanks. Duh, I didn't read the caption within the clip. Hopson looks like a world beater there, just goes to show that you can't judge fighters based on performances against lesser opposition. Judging from that clip, I would've thought he'd have given Mayweather a tough fight at 130, and I wanted to see how Gatti dealt with that speed over 12 rounds.

Gerald McClellan.

The opposite. He could take TOO much punishment without going down or out.

Gerald McClellan.

The opposite. He could take TOO much punishment without going down or out.

I never thought of it that way before. A good chin can be your downfall, great post.

Gerald McClellan.

The opposite. He could take TOO much punishment without going down or out.

If so then Ali is the quintessential example of having a chin which was "too good." It carried him through his first comeback when his footspeed (and thus defense) had dissipated. It probably also led to his lazy sparring style in which he took too many shots. Even when he was completely shot it didn't crack, accumulating even more punishment (although to be fair Holmes could have probably TKOd the medicated version of Ali he faced if he had gone all out, not that it would have been much of an achievement).

Alex Ramos
Greg Page
Terry Norris
Charles Brewer

Greg Page had a very good chin.In fact, only James Tillis dropped him in his heydey, and that, in part, was due to Page's training.

Joe frazier.It was only so long that frazier's camp could hand pick their opponents and hide his weak chin.Yank durham almost had a heart attack during the first frazier-bonavena fight when frazier was manhandled and knocked down twice and recieved the gift of god when frazier got the decision,Durham swore no more which led to an entire career's worth of ducking every great heavyweight puncher of that era

frazier could have been the greatest heavyweight of all time had he had the guts and the chin to fight and beat all comers but unfortunately god never blessed him with those

Errol Christie
Jeremy Williams
Paul 'scrap iron' Ryan
Michael Moorer

Mark Breland
Floyd Patterson


Hey mickey malone you think Moorer had a glass chin ? not saying you are wrong but i always thought he had a chin like JMM, he can be hurt often but has lots of heart to keep getting up. Stewart, Cooper and Holyfield 2. Holyfield put the guy down how many times and he kept getting back up.


Mark Breland .................Starling 1 & Howard Davis KTFO :lol1:


I gotta say Terry Norris because if my boy had a chin he could of been truly exceptional.


Junior Jones is my pick though, this guy had it all imo but he just could not take a punch at ALL!!!!!

Ive seen Jones fights with Barrera and Orlando Canazalez and i still dont know how he got by those two fighters without getting KTFO, well actually i do his Boxing skills, but his chin was terrible!!!!!!!!!!!! Canazalez had lost a step to be fair so......

The reason i say Jones is because he hardly ever recovered when he got hurt, he was KTFO Bam Bam Johnson who staggered him many many times throughout the fight eventually stopping him late, he was Ko'ed by Darryl Pinckney who was a BUM!!! he then regrouped and beat MAB, Canazalez then he walks into a right hand from Mckinney on the Hamed/Kelly undercard and got stopped, he had a great fight with Paul Ingle but he ended up getting stopped again, oh yeah the loss to Morales to.

The were question marks about Jones's stamina and him boiling down in weight etc, but bottom line is he had a glass jaw, which was a shame because he could of dominated at the lower weights imo.

Ref: Dynamite Kid.. Moorer's more known for going down as opposed to out, so I suppose it's more down to how you remember the KO's, & although not many, the ones against Foreman & Tua do tend to stick in the mind.. Especially against Foreman, because he was in his prime & coasting the fight.. Michael's career was never quite the same after that fight..
He's similar to Hearns, & many have mentioned him.. Both have only been KTFO twice, but dramatically.. Both have also been TKO'd once & twice respectively, but only at world level, with 1 of those being when Hearns sustained a limb injury against Uriah Grant.. Niether of the above have particularly bad chins, but both have shown the odd weakness at championship level..
Junior Jones is a good call.. Seems he's been overlooked as Barrera's boogieman.. But people tend to forget, he was KTFO 3 times, but not always in career defining fights..

Ref: Dynamite Kid.. Moorer's more known for going down as opposed to out, so I suppose it's more down to how you remember the KO's, & although not many, the ones against Foreman & Tua do tend to stick in the mind.. Especially against Foreman, because he was in his prime & coasting the fight.. Michael's career was never quite the same after that fight..
He's similar to Hearns, & many have mentioned him.. Both have only been KTFO twice, but dramatically.. Both have also been TKO'd once & twice respectively, but only at world level, with 1 of those being when Hearns sustained a limb injury against Uriah Grant.. Niether of the above have particularly bad chins, but both have shown the odd weakness at championship level..
Junior Jones is a good call.. Seems he's been overlooked as Barrera's boogieman.. But people tend to forget, he was KTFO 3 times, but not always in career defining fights..


Id agree with that, he definitely had a shaky chin.


I have a career set of Junior Jones, shame he had no chin because he could of been something special. Apparently one journo was tipping him to be an ATG, early his career this was to. I bet that guy felt sheepish when he realized Junior could not take a punch :lol1:

Damn, Patterson looks like a world beater in that clip, extremely fast hands and good footwork. I'm going to have to check out his first fight with Gatti.

Patterson was a very good fighter but I don't think he was really ever the same after the Gatti fights.

Poet

Id agree with that, he definitely had a shaky chin.

I have a career set of Junior Jones, shame he had no chin because he could of been something special. Apparently one journo was tipping him to be an ATG, early his career this was to. I bet that guy felt sheepish when he realized Junior could not take a punch :lol1:

Junior did have stamina issues though: The image of him punching himself out against McKinney keeps running through my head. Kennedy could have blown him a kiss at that point and put him down for the count.

Poet

The physical appearance of Junior Jones reminded me a lot of Sandy Saddler.

Junior did have stamina issues though: The image of him punching himself out against McKinney keeps running through my head. Kennedy could have blown him a kiss at that point and put him down for the count.

Poet

That is what i mean when i say Jones never recovered :lol1:

When Jones got hurt by McKinney you just knew that fight was over, his recuperative powers were terrible.

Having said that i seem to remember him getting hurt momentarily by Canazalez and Tom Johnson (boring fight) and he managed to ride it out but on the whole yeah................. glass!! :lol1:

That is what i mean when i say Jones never recovered :lol1:

When Jones got hurt by McKinney you just knew that fight was over, his recuperative powers were terrible.

Having said that i seem to remember him getting hurt momentarily by Canazalez and Tom Johnson (boring fight) and he managed to ride it out but on the whole yeah................. glass!! :lol1:

But damn wasn't Poison fun to watch? :D

Poet

But damn wasn't Poison fun to watch? :D

Poet

All fighters with shaky chins tend to be dont they ?

Take Norris, how many times has he stood there banged it out with his opponent and either been knocked out himself or been down or beat the **** out of his opponent and won.

Kill or be killed :lol1:

Anyone else noticed these two homo's laughing at each others posts?