Rocky Mariciano
and his 49-0 record
i personally think he is one of the
best heavi weights ever,
people talk about him not fighting
good fighters, but thats out of his reach,
he fougth the very best avialable at the time
do you think he is overated due to his record?

Rocky Mariciano
and his 49-0 record
i personally think he is one of the
best heavi weights ever,
people talk about him not fighting
good fighters, but thats out of his reach,
he fougth the very best avialable at the time
do you think he is overated due to his record?


Naw, in fact he's underrated in my opinion. The guy was tough as nails...not a great boxer, but a helluva brawler with power in both hands that simply refused to lose, ever. What helped, also, was his conditioning. I don't know if any boxer ever has come to the ring as consistantly fit as Rocky.

The Rock wasn't overrated. Hell, he was undefeated and would have beat Liston, Ali, Frazier, etc. if those guys were man enough to fight him when he was old. Which means, as a youngster, Marciano would have ****ed up anybody.

I think rocky is liek heavyweights today. no one will really see them as great cause they look so far into the past. like vitali/lewis, rocky had to beat what was avilable to him. ya he has louis,moore,charles,walcott but many people think lewis and walcott where was past prime and while charles,moore are good themselves they dont push rocky enough up the ladder for greatest of all time. kidna unfair if u think about it. as for overrated goes eh sorta somtimes go overboard a bit on him i dont think he could beat time joe louis or ali, listen, foreman etc but damn he did what he ahd to do.

The Rock wasn't overrated. Hell, he was undefeated and would have beat Liston, Ali, Frazier, etc. if those guys were man enough to fight him when he was old. Which means, as a youngster, Marciano would have ****ed up anybody.


this is why people might think he is overrated rocky was good but not the greatest

this is why people might think he is overrated rocky was good but not the greatest

Actually i do think he is one of the greatest ever. :boxing:

The Rock wasn't overrated. Hell, he was undefeated and would have beat Liston, Ali, Frazier, etc. if those guys were man enough to fight him when he was old. Which means, as a youngster, Marciano would have ****ed up anybody.

Cant tell if this is carcasm or not but, I do think Marciano would have had a shot against any man who ever laced up gloves, from any era. (Maybe not as an old man though).

Cant tell if this is carcasm or not but, I do think Marciano would have had a shot against any man who ever laced up gloves, from any era. (Maybe not as an old man though).


yeah i agree

Marciano is overrated or underrated depending on who you speak to. From some of the previous posts I can see that he's overrated. But if you talk to certain people they will say that he was a little talentless slugger, which is extremely untrue...thus underrating him. I think that what Marciano did was great, and he'd be a tough fight against whoever he stepped to...but some of these big monsters like Foreman, Liston, and Lewis and extremely talented boxers like Ali, Holmes, and prime Louis would have beaten him decisively.

Marciano is overrated or underrated depending on who you speak to. From some of the previous posts I can see that he's overrated. But if you talk to certain people they will say that he was a little talentless slugger, which is extremely untrue...thus underrating him. I think that what Marciano did was great, and he'd be a tough fight against whoever he stepped to...but some of these big monsters like Foreman, Liston, and Lewis and extremely talented boxers like Ali, Holmes, and prime Louis would have beaten him decisively.

i can't say Rocky would have kicked their asses
but i cant say they would have kicked his ass,
good fights provably, Ali would have definitly dominated him,
yet i think Rocky is one of the best fighters ever,
hands down.

People who think it was no easy feat for him to stay undefeated need to remember how easily Lewis and Tyson both lost to vastly inferior opponents. Even though he fought in an era with no other standout stars in their primes, the fact that Marciano came to every fight in great shape and displayed tremendous respect for each and every one of his opponents proves what a great athlete he really was.

It is very easy to get ****y when you are on top, and sometimes it only takes one bad night or a half second lapse in concentration to get knocked off the hill. That never happened to Marciano because he was the most goal orientated, focused overachiever to ever win the title.

That's the lesson that all of you would be wise to learn from Marciano. When I hear all this bull about how he was too small or that he was only famous because of his skin color I can only shake my head. Those people just don't *get* it.

I don't understand how you can be a true fan of boxing and not appreciate the superhuman work ethic and courage of Rocky Marciano. I really don't.

People who think it was no easy feat for him to stay undefeated need to remember how easily Lewis and Tyson both lost to vastly inferior opponents. Even though he fought in an era with no other standout stars in their primes, the fact that Marciano came to every fight in great shape and displayed tremendous respect for each and every one of his opponents proves what a great athlete he really was.

It is very easy to get ****y when you are on top, and sometimes it only takes one bad night or a half second lapse in concentration to get knocked off the hill. That never happened to Marciano because he was the most goal orientated, focused overachiever to ever win the title.

That's the lesson that all of you would be wise to learn from Marciano. When I hear all this bull about how he was too small or that he was only famous because of his skin color I can only shake my head. Those people just don't *get* it.

I don't understand how you can be a true fan of boxing and not appreciate the superhuman work ethic and courage of Rocky Marciano. I really don't.


yup bravo when u put it liek that he is underrated but then u got peeps who think he would destory ever boxer who ever lived

I would say both...
The keyword is fighter. He was probably the greatest fighter in history. Nobody tougher, nobody meaner. He was the most ferocious thing ever to put on gloves, including Frazier, Tyson and Foreman.
He would swing that right hand of his from the floor to knock you out. Of course he missed alot, but he only needed to land one punch...

In my opinion he was the greatest fighter, hands down.
But not the greatest boxer. Ali and other great boxers would most likely beat him, but not for sure.
Wait... Actually I think maybe Rocky would beat Ali...
But not Foreman...
Or...
Hell, I don't know!
Don't know if any fighter in the history could keep him off for 15 rounds. Most certainly nearly nobody could knock him out though.

I would say both...
The keyword is fighter. He was probably the greatest fighter in history. Nobody tougher, nobody meaner. He was the most ferocious thing ever to put on gloves, including Frazier, Tyson and Foreman.
He would swing that right hand of his from the floor to knock you out. Of course he missed alot, but he only needed to land one punch...

In my opinion he was the greatest fighter, hands down.
But not the greatest boxer. Ali and other great boxers would most likely beat him, but not for sure.
Wait... Actually I think maybe Rocky would beat Ali...
But not Foreman...
Or...
Hell, I don't know!
Don't know if any fighter in the history could keep him off for 15 rounds. Most certainly nearly nobody could knock him out though.


nah i say foreman was better

:boxing: Rocky would have given anyone a tough fight. As to who would win, it's all speculation. Anything can happen in boxing. He would have always had the slugger's chance in any fight. He wasn't the greatest, but he would have been a tough nut for anybody to crack. He's one of my alltime favorites. :boxing:

nah i say foreman was better
You think so?
Haven't really seen that many fights of Foreman...
But I've seen the war with Lyle (if that's his name..?)
Awesome fight! But I didn't really see anything special, aside from big power, incredible chin and some freakishly slooooooow punches :P
I'd say Foreman was a better boxer than Marciano, but not a better fighter... (still think Foreman would knock his head off)

I would say both...
The keyword is fighter. He was probably the greatest fighter in history. Nobody tougher, nobody meaner. He was the most ferocious thing ever to put on gloves, including Frazier, Tyson and Foreman.
He would swing that right hand of his from the floor to knock you out. Of course he missed alot, but he only needed to land one punch...

In my opinion he was the greatest fighter, hands down.
But not the greatest boxer. Ali and other great boxers would most likely beat him, but not for sure.
Wait... Actually I think maybe Rocky would beat Ali...
But not Foreman...
Or...
Hell, I don't know!
Don't know if any fighter in the history could keep him off for 15 rounds. Most certainly nearly nobody could knock him out though.

Ali would have beated Rocky
but foreman wouldnt

Foreman was better? Tommy Morrison beat Foreman and you think he's better than Marciano.

Foreman was better? Tommy Morrison beat Foreman and you think he's better than Marciano.


Young Foreman crushes Morrison and beats Marciano's face to a pulp in a war.

Young Foreman certainly looked like the perfect killing machine with the exception of one thing, stamina. Well, to be more accurate, he didn't pace himself and quickly ran out of steam. His stamina was actually pretty decent, but nothing comparable to Marciano's. If Rocky wins this fight it's after weathering a hellacious storm for six or seven rounds. It would all depend on the ref really. I don't see him getting knocked out and quitting would be out of the question.

The thing the Rock has on his side is that when you get into the later rounds, Marciano's shots would still have power and Foreman's wouldn't. So to say Foreman hits harder is not completly true. Big George may hit harder for the first half of the fight, but after that you have to go with Rocky who had power that DID carry into the later rounds.

Young Foreman crushes Morrison and beats Marciano's face to a pulp in a war.

no one can beat marciano to a pulp
maybe out box him but outslugh him
no even foreman

it was charles who floored rocky first right? if he can do i bet foreman could to the reason i think foreman would win is because rocky and him would stand in the middle of the ring and throw bombs but the body shots by foreman would pull it out. be we most haev to agree Foreman vs rocky would be the greatest slug feast every witnessed. The one thign Rocky has that stand above others is that he knew when to stop

Charles never floored Marciano. It was Walcott and then Moore. Both times he got up right away.

Charles never floored Marciano. It was Walcott and then Moore. Both times he got up right away.

hmm didnt rocky ge floored one time and had to make a big comback to win im pretty sure it was one of his fights better go check my fights

no one can beat marciano to a pulp
maybe out box him but outslugh him
no even foreman


Foreman would destroy Rocky's face and the fight would be stopped on cuts. I dunno if Rock can walk through 6-8 rounds of giant, sometimes unanswered (range) shots. It'd look much like Foreman/Frazier...except Rocky might stand up longer, and that's where the cuts come into play.

Foreman would destroy Rocky's face and the fight would be stopped on cuts. I dunno if Rock can walk through 6-8 rounds of giant, sometimes unanswered (range) shots. It'd look much like Foreman/Frazier...except Rocky might stand up longer, and that's where the cuts come into play.


you are telling me all the fighters
he fought had less reach than him ?
he can figth raround the reach problem

Foreman was better? Tommy Morrison beat Foreman and you think he's better than Marciano.


One must always remember, styles make fights, and opponent A, while defeating opponent B, might very well lose to opponent C, who lost by mid round Ko to opponent B. :D


Marciano was relentless. He pressured from the start of round 1, until the fight was over. He never backed off, and never slowed down. His conditioning was what allowed him to work like this, and many (if not most) fighters, especially heavyweights, are unable to deal with completely unending pressure. Rocky would've given trouble to any heavyweight who ever lived. Would he have beaten them? No way to tell, but he'd have had a chance with anyone. Any guesses as to outcome are pure speculation, but it certainly can't be said he wasn't in the same class as Ali, Foreman, Frazier and the like. And when you remember his size (diminutive for a heavyweight), it could even be argued that he's in the running for pound-for-pound greatest who ever lived.

Sturm you're thinking of when Charles split his nose open and the doctor talked to his corner between rounds telling them he'd let Marciano fight for only one more round. The Rock then proceeded to go out and KO Charles in that round.

The best damn heavyweight of all time.

Rocky Mariciano
and his 49-0 record
i personally think he is one of the
best heavi weights ever,
people talk about him not fighting
good fighters, but thats out of his reach,
he fougth the very best avialable at the time
do you think he is overated due to his record?

i think he is underrated
since people keep saying how
Foreman, Tyson and such would have kicked his
ass.
they could not last 15 rounds going at it against him.
he might be one of the best ever.

like someone said before he was the best conditioned figther
ever

One must always remember, styles make fights, and opponent A, while defeating opponent B, might very well lose to opponent C, who lost by mid round Ko to opponent B. :D





Boxing algebra???

the main reason i cant see him beating other top heavyweight pass his era is cause rocky was only 5 11' and 188 pounds.. thats liek putting a middleweight today agaisnt a heavyweight. the size adn reach advantgae of heavys beyond his era where just way to much bigger i know size isnt everythign but at some point it is. lennox lewis at 6'5 250 or VK at 6'7' he woulda have a very tuff time...

the main reason i cant see him beating other top heavyweight pass his era is cause rocky was only 5 11' and 188 pounds.. thats liek putting a middleweight today agaisnt a heavyweight. the size adn reach advantgae of heavys beyond his era where just way to much bigger i know size isnt everythign but at some point it is. lennox lewis at 6'5 250 or VK at 6'7' he woulda have a very tuff time...

yeah but he can still outlast them in anyfight
he was the most commited to training boxers ever.
his shape was incredible, he would tired his opponents out
then break them down

Anyone who thinks he's overated hasnt seen him fight, or wasnt watching close enough.

Marciano's considered a brawler with no defence?? I've never seen a fighter slip punches so well, for his style he never got hit!!

yeah but he can still outlast them in anyfight
he was the most commited to training boxers ever.
his shape was incredible, he would tired his opponents out
then break them down


maybe but one man can only take so much

Hes over rated. He got that
record from fighting bums.
and beating Joe Louis when he was
too old.

Hes over rated. He got that
record from fighting bums.
and beating Larry Holmes when he was
too old.

You sure thats Marciano your speaking about ^^^ :D

Tyson wouldnt see the final bell against Marciano, he'd get broken down easily enough.

You sure thats Marciano your speaking about ^^^ :D

Tyson wouldnt see the final bell against Marciano, he'd get broken down easily enough.


Marciano is the best heavyweigth
just under Ali

i know rocky is great but to say he could take everyone of tysons punches is a bit to much even for a great like him hey tyson can dodge/slip to u know and hell there the same height lol

Hes over rated. He got that
record from fighting bums.
and beating Joe Louis when he was
too old.


Buster Douglas a bum too?
:D

i know rocky is great but to say he could take everyone of tysons punches is a bit to much even for a great like him hey tyson can dodge/slip to u know and hell there the same height lol

One word = Heart

One word = Heart


im sure tyson had some himself when he was in his prime. But heart isnt everything

im sure tyson had some himself when he was in his prime. But heart isnt everything

no off but i think he could have gotten up
Vs Douglas, i didnt see it being that bad

no off but i think he could have gotten up
Vs Douglas, i didnt see it being that bad

thats when tyson lost his heart lol :X sad day for me

thats when tyson lost his heart lol :X sad day for me

Sad day for heavyweight boxing
Tyson was the last great champ,( no off to Lewis)
after tyson the whole division
lost its charm and a lot of
followers.