A lot of anti-UK posts have been made here, particularly since Saturday. And true, America DOES have more prominent boxers. However, if you consider the size and population of America, then Britain actually has a higher ratio of rated boxers. Check the fact. What's disturbing is that if any other racial group was lambasted as consistently on here, people would be up in arms. Can you imagine someone posting such disparaging remarks about Puerto Rican or Mexican fighters and being alive to tell?

Not only that, but English fighters are often kept out of the loop. After going in against Zab Judah with just a week's notice nearly five years ago Junior Witter's been studiously avoided by US TV. Yet after managing to sneak in on the Saturday bill he's now feted by Golden Boy Promotions and there are threads here talking about whether he could beat Cotto. I tell you - everyone's allowed one off-night, particularly when they've only got a week's notice against someone like Judah!


Forget the belts, here's the Ring-rated UK contingent, in order of ranking:


Joe Calzaghe (1st-ranked [champ currently vacant] Super-Middleweight by The Ring!)

Howard Eastman (1st-ranked middleweight)

[B]Scott Harrison (2nd-rated Featherweight)

Johnny Nelson (3rd-rated Cruiserweight)

Carl Thompson (6th-rated Cruiserweight)

Clinton Woods (6th-rated Light-Heavyweight),

Ricky Hatton (6th-ranked Jr. Welterweight)

Jawaid Khaliq (7th-ranked Welterweight)

Michael Brodie (7th-rated Featherweight)

Robin Reid (8th-ranked Super-Middleweight)

Nicky Cook (10th-rated Featherweight)


That's 11 fighters in the Ring rankings... not bad for a country with less than 70 million population, eh?


Add to this the fact that in the last issue of The Ring Lovemore N'Dou was the 8th-ranked Jr. Welterweight... presumably this elevates Witter into their top ten next time?

No one gives a ****.

name one that will go in the top 10 of all time
Lennox Lewis is good
but i'm gettin tired of u keep nuthuggin fighters cuz they all from england, they all suck!!
and calzaghe is a damn bum!He's ranked #1 in a dead division, Lacy will knock his ass out!!

none of those guys will do anything big and none are really a threat to the champions. a lot of them are rated that high is because they are just filler

No one gives a ****.

People give a **** enough to ***** about UK fighter all the time. This just proves that as a nation the ratio between elite fighters and population is very good.

Whether you care or not its nice to see someone backing up there arguement.

name one that will go in the top 10 of all time
Lennox Lewis is good
but i'm gettin tired of u keep nuthuggin fighters cuz they all from england, they all suck!!
and calzaghe is a damn bum!He's ranked #1 in a dead division, Lacy will knock his ass out!!


I'll second that...

name one that will go in the top 10 of all time
Lennox Lewis is good
but i'm gettin tired of u keep nuthuggin fighters cuz they all from england, they all suck!!
and calzaghe is a damn bum!He's ranked #1 in a dead division, Lacy will knock his ass out!!

Get real, Lacy hasnt been in with a half decent fighter yet. At least give the prospect a chance before talking of a Calzaghe fight.

There is far too much pressure on American prospects, guys like Lacy and Taylor are just starting out and people are talking like their superstars already :confused:

Get real, Lacy hasnt been in with a half decent fighter yet. At least give the prospect a chance before talking of a Calzaghe fight.

There is far too much pressure on American prospects, guys like Lacy and Taylor are just starting out and people are talking like their superstars already :confused:

im not sayin lacy is BIG!!
i'm sayin calzaghe hasnt fought neone big
maybe if he would leave his country
hatton is ok but tszyu will KILL HIM!!
all the other guys are just nobodies

Is there anyone who wants to bash UK fighters on this forum that can actually string a coherent sentence/argument together? You think you're really making a point, but you're only defeating your own arguments with your ineptitude.

"Yo, Calzaghe sux yo momma ***git"

No one gives a ****.Well you must do otherwise you wouldn't have looked at the thread, would you? Dick.

im not sayin lacy is BIG!!
i'm sayin calzaghe hasnt fought neone big
maybe if he would leave his country
hatton is ok but tszyu will KILL HIM!!
all the other guys are just nobodies

Calzaghe's fought some decent fighters.

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=005364

Reid, Woodhall, Eubank, Mitchell were all genuine world champions, he's also fought a lot of tough fighters too. Give him the chance against Hopkins and we'll see a beating.

I'm not bais to any nation, i watch every fight with an open mind and i cant see why the UK gets so much ****. They have some very good fighers who should be shown a some respect before you can expect them to fight in the US.

The fact remains that I've NEVER seen a race get as much stick on this forum as the British. You'd NEVER get a thread from someone who disliked Barrera saying "Mexican fighters suck". Hell, even Ruiz doesn't inspire anti-Puerto Rican rants.

alzaghe has fought and beaten some decent fighters. So has Hatton as well. I think if you look at Eastman going 12 rounds with Hopkins, and winning a few rounds too, this is much more than Tito is capable of doing with Hopkins. Also, Danny Williams lasted 8 rounds with Klit, Kirk Johnson, that great American heavy lasted less than two!

People only hate on the brits when people like Anorak practically worship any british fighter involved in a high profile fight. As well as when they act semi-delusional when that british fighter loses. :luvbed: & a little bit of :bottle:

People only hate on the brits when people like Anorak practically worship any british fighter involved in a high profile fight. As well as when they act semi-delusional when that british fighter loses. Too much :luvbed: & a little bit of :bottle:

come june 4th, with a spirited scrap from hatton, i think it'll finally put the UK on the map. witter just got the wheels on the bus moving this past saturday.

alzaghe has fought and beaten some decent fighters. So has Hatton as well. I think if you look at Eastman going 12 rounds with Hopkins, and winning a few rounds too, this is much more than Tito is capable of doing with Hopkins. Also, Danny Williams lasted 8 rounds with Klit, Kirk Johnson, that great American heavy lasted less than two!

Johnson's from Canada, but i totally agree with everything else.

I dont mind people giving a bit of abuse to the UK fighter(some is funny) but its a total lack of respect by some members. it really sucks ass when someone is so bias toward the US they consider everyone who doesnt fight there **** :confused:

come june 4th, with a spirited scrap from hatton, i think it'll finally put the UK on the map. witter just got the wheels on the bus moving this past saturday.

Hatton should give Tsyzu a good fight but how about picking him as your first big test!!

Thats a massive task for anyone :D

People only hate on the brits when people like Anorak practically worship any british fighter involved in a high profile fight. As well as when they act semi-delusional when that british fighter loses. Too much :luvbed: & a little bit of :bottle:
I thought you weren't supposed to be debating with me, Godzhand? See, this is a topic I've been and done with with you. As one of the UK contingent on here, then hell yeah, I'm gonna post a positive thread about some UK fighter everyone's slating when 90% of them haven't even seen them fight.

I've just been checking some population stats - I didn't realise there were only three million Welsh people. That's pretty good going for Joe then, eh? Five million Scots and sixty million English.

Hey ankorka (whatever it is) I don't like PR boxers or they nuthuggin fans, I think most of them are overhyped one hit wonders. There does that make youbrits feel less of a target? :confused:

Calzaghe's fought some decent fighters.

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=005364

Reid, Woodhall, Eubank, Mitchell were all genuine world champions, he's also fought a lot of tough fighters too. Give him the chance against Hopkins and we'll see a beating.

I'm not bais to any nation, i watch every fight with an open mind and i cant see why the UK gets so much ****. They have some very good fighers who should be shown a some respect before you can expect them to fight in the US.

i see his record and
he only fights in
Norther Ireland
England
and Wales

why????

i see his record and
he only fights in
Norther Ireland
England
and Wales

why????

He's scared of flying and he's been number 1 for such a long time. Champions should only travel for bigger money then they can earn at home.

i see his record and
he only fights in
Norther Ireland
England
and Wales

why????I will agree that Calzaghe is not a good choice of representation as he's injury-prone. He was due to fight Glen Johnson (a fighter whom Woods went the distance with twice) but had a back problem.

I don't like the way Frank Warren protects his fighters, though after seeing Robin Reid "lose" to Sven Ottke and Eastman "lose" to Joppy I can see the reasons...

He's scared of flying and he's been number 1 for such a long time. Champions should only travel for bigger money then they can earn at home.
Is he also scared of spiders, snakes? The boogeyman? Some one tell that welsh *** to grow up and act like a man.
:D

Hey ankorka (whatever it is) I don't like PR boxers or they nuthuggin fans, I think most of them are overhyped one hit wonders. There does that make youbrits feel less of a target? :confused:


Somethin like that, he thought I was responding to him. Like he represents british boxing. I stopped arguing with that person a long time ago, it's a waste.

He's scared of flying and he's been number 1 for such a long time. Champions should only travel for bigger money then they can earn at home.I'd forgotten that. He does have a genuine fear of flying. He is getting itchy feet about the competition though. Ricky Hatton kicked up a stink in 2004 about the lack of quality Warren was getting him. Now he's up against Tyszu.

Somethin like that, he thought I was responding to him. Like he represents british boxing. I stopped arguing with that person a long time ago, it's a waste.Like I said, you don't want to argue with me, don't even mention my name. Do I join threads and slag YOU down? No? Don't do it to me then. And you're the waste. A shame... you seem to have more of a brain than other smacktalkers, yet just keep repeating the same thing...

Is he also scared of spiders, snakes? The boogeyman? Some one tell that welsh *** to grow up and act like a man.
:D

I seriously think the reason he's scared of flying is because he's so confindent and wanna be macho. I know a lot of tough guys who really hate having their life in someone else hands.

I aint scared on flying or much else but put in a room with a black mamba and i'll **** myself. :D

I'd forgotten that. He does have a genuine fear of flying. He is getting itchy feet about the competition though. Ricky Hatton kicked up a stink in 2004 about the lack of quality Warren was getting him. Now he's up against Tyszu.

I think Calzaghe could do more to get the big fights but he's very happy with the money Warren gets him.

Its a choice between rich or pride for Calzaghe and the moneys talking.

The fact remains that I've NEVER seen a race get as much stick on this forum as the British. You'd NEVER get a thread from someone who disliked Barrera saying "Mexican fighters suck". Hell, even Ruiz doesn't inspire anti-Puerto Rican rants.

u guys rip me for liking sturm so id say u guys rip german people (which i am not german)

Is there anyone who wants to bash UK fighters on this forum that can actually string a coherent sentence/argument together? You think you're really making a point, but you're only defeating your own arguments with your ineptitude.

"Yo, Calzaghe sux yo momma ***git"


off topic, but the avatar was a loss on a bet, right? Not a homophobe here, just wanted to clear that up.

off topic, but the avatar was a loss on a bet, right? Not a homophobe here, just wanted to clear that up.

Thats so funny, LMAO at his av!! :D

off topic, but the avatar was a loss on a bet, right? Not a homophobe here, just wanted to clear that up.Yeah, it is... till March the 20th! NEVER bet with IWatchBoxing, LOL! :D

u guys rip me for liking sturm so id say u guys rip german people (which i am not german)Sturm's a good boxer. IMO he beat DLH.

Re: Leave my name out of your posts...

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Originally Posted by Anorak
... you don't want to debate stuff with me, then don't. But I don't rag your name for others in posts, so don't do it to me then complain when I respond.

:bottle:


read the ****ing post again. I used you as an example, not an insult. I explained why people hate on the British fighters so much. It's because of the way you blindly follow them into the fire, and defend why they got burned. leave your name out of my pm box.

Sturm's a good boxer. IMO he beat DLH.

I wouldnt pay to see him fight Hopkins, talk about a chess match.

Re: Leave my name out of your posts...

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anorak
... you don't want to debate stuff with me, then don't. But I don't rag your name for others in posts, so don't do it to me then complain when I respond.

:bottle:


read the ****ing post again. I used you as an example, not an insult. I explained why people hate on the British fighters so much. It's because of the way you blindly follow them into the fire, and defend why they got burned. leave your name out of my pm box.Okay, next time I want to talk about wankers, I'll use you as an example but tell you to piss off if you tell me not to - is that fair?

People only hate on the brits when people like Anorak practically worship any british fighter involved in a high profile fight. As well as when they act semi-delusional when that british fighter loses. :luvbed: & a little bit of :bottle:


READ THIS POST. ATTENTION BOXINGSCENE BOARD MEMBERS! This QUOTE^ is about why British fighters get such hating on this board. READ IT. It is in no way an insult toward anyone or british people. It is a reasoning as to why British fighters get hated on. Much how Paquiao die-hards get hated on. Much how Tyson and Klitshko nuthuggers get hated on. It's not because they are from britain or Germany or Brooklyn, it's about how their fans are so bias towards them, making excuses, calling the men that beat them fair and square a coward. Calling the man that beat them fair and square pathetic. No insults, no trash talk. A ****ING EXAMPLE as an attempt to answer the question why British fighters recieve such mistreatment. Now, did I really have to do that? ****!

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read the ****ing post again. I used you as an example, not an insult. I explained why people hate on the British fighters so much. It's because of the way you blindly follow them into the fire, and defend why they got burned. leave your name out of my pm box

Don't use me as an example.

LOOK - you don't like any thread I create. You PARTICULARLY don't like it when I post about UK fighters. So why on Earth join in a thread I start about Brit fighters?

Okay - you wanna use me as example? Next time I'm talking about cunts, shall I use you, then turn round and tell you not to bother me? Jesus!
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I used you as an example BECAUSE you do that with British fighters. And I dont remember talking **** or having a problem with any other thread of yours other than the whole danny williams and howard eastman nonsense. Use me as an example for anything, but use me correctly. Or risk looking ridiculous by insulting someone for no reason.

Fact One: When British fighters get trashed on this forum by Americans, at least 70% of those people know no more about that fighter than what they've seen on paper.

Fact Two: Despite pejorative adjectives applied towards Hopkins in order to initiate debate, the fact remains that his tactics were significantly different than those against smaller fighters.


NO UK bias. Just a plea for an open mind about fighters you're going to trash.

Fact One: When British fighters get trashed on this forum by Americans, at least 70% of those people know no more about that fighter than what they've seen on paper.

I hate that, not just with British fighters but with anyone. I once posted about Hatton and someone said he was ****, then a couple of posts later they said they had never seen him fight :confused:

I hate that, not just with British fighters but with anyone. I once posted about Hatton and someone said he was ****, then a couple of posts later they said they had never seen him fight :confused:LOL! :) I'm no fan of Hatton's, but I've seen at least half-a-dozen of his bouts. Just not my style...

LOL! :) I'm no fan of Hatton's, but I've seen at least half-a-dozen of his bouts. Just not my style...

:?!:

Hatton's never been in a dull fight, i suppose i'm the type of person who likes a good pressure fighter.

I'm definitley Marciano, not Ali.

Here the current British p4p ten, from... can't remember the source, it's from a story on BoxingScene anyway...

1 - Joe Calzaghe
2 - Howard Eastman
3 - Ricky Hatton
4 - Junior Witter
5 - Scott Harrison
6 - Michael Brodie
7 - Johnny Nelson
8 - David Barnes
9 - Esham Pickering
10 - Carl Thompson

Really?...people hate on Brits on this website?...I can't remember anything. No reason to hate Brits...you guys make good tea. :spam:

Here the current British p4p ten, from... can't remember the source, it's from a story on BoxingScene anyway...

1 - Joe Calzaghe
2 - Howard Eastman
3 - Ricky Hatton
4 - Junior Witter
5 - Scott Harrison
6 - Michael Brodie
7 - Johnny Nelson
8 - David Barnes
9 - Esham Pickering
10 - Carl Thompson

I saw this the other week. I'm Suprised there's No Clinton Woods in the top 10. I'm not sure about the order, i'm a big junior witter fan but i would put Harrison and Nelson above him, both have WBO titles. I can see David Barnes, Carl Froch and Enzo Macrinelli being near the top of this list soon.

Would love to see Hatton Vs Witter, Harrison Vs Brodie and Nelson Vs Macrinelli.

good luck to all the brits.......but is their actually one brit with a legitimate world title at the moment? Legitimate being of course one of the top three WBC/WBA/IBF?

It's not only brits that have WBO belts. I'm sure Corales & cotto would say there legitimate world titles.

Hatton should give Tsyzu a good fight but how about picking him as your first big test!!

Thats a massive task for anyone :D
i sorta feel eastman had the same problem with hopkins.

it was too big a stepup from his previous opponents..
joppy..no no no no no forget it...dont even mention him..
ive done enough by mentioning him myself. :D

yeah i think tsyzu is a bit much but then tsyzu got koed by a fighter who was able to pressure him (i think..) and its hattons strong area...
forward forward forward.

i predict a mid (4-8rds) ko for tsyzu but its gonna be
war so i wouldnt be surprised if its close and bloody.

but no ill never over hype a uk fighter again..

after backing david haye ive learnt my lesson.

good luck hatton-witter and all the other uk fighters
who keep our domestic and world boxing scene alive

I SHOULDNT BE TOO DOWN ON YOURSELF ON HAYE, HE CAN COME AGIAN!

i think taking on a top ten crusierweight in your 11th fight and beating the **** out of him for 3 rounds is no mean feat.

david will have learned from that fight agianst the old warhorse thompson, it wasnt that he wasnt the better man he just got beat by inexperience and piss poor tactics. Carl knew what was coming and planned for it.

too much emphasis is placed on losing you zero. its how you lose it and at what stage of your career. Hasnt harmed gatti has it.


I wouldnt be too quick to write Haye off, he is fighting friday by the way against this man another risky match.

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=007795

what a breath of fresh air instead of constantly fighting stiffs like many of our top boys do.

Any chance it's going to be on BBC then?

Lol

It's not only brits that have WBO belts. I'm sure Corales & cotto would say there legitimate world titles.
yes but the question is/was:

is their actually one brit with a legitimate world title at the moment? Legitimate being of course one of the top three WBC/WBA/IBF?

yes but the question is/was:

is their actually one brit with a legitimate world title at the moment? Legitimate being of course one of the top three WBC/WBA/IBF?

No there is no brits that hold a WBC/WBA/IBF.

Any chance it's going to be on BBC then?

Lol

YEAH IT IS AS MAIN SUPPORT TO WOODS VS HOYE FRIDAY MATE 11.30 PM BBC1.
didnt expect that did ya :cool: :)

Haye (81 world rank) going in against Kelly? (22) Give the guy all the credit for daring to try.

Though I made quite a packet on The Cat. "Do you not understand my function?"

No there is no brits that hold a WBC/WBA/IBF.
well isn't this unfortunate..........well let's hope that clinton woods will become a legitimate champ in his 4th attempt, and it pays to mention his 3rd vacant title attempt.......i am sure you agree with me on the vacant title one.

Most of those fighters are promoted by frank warren and as a result they dont get that big fight they need so we can see how good they really are (with exception of hatton who has eventually got tyszu)

I wish there were more brits fighting for world titles, i think Frank Warren is over protective with his fighters. Mick Hennesay has done the right thing by co promoting both Witter & Foch with Oscar. They should both get big fights in america now.

When the best British fighters like Calzaghe & Hatton grow a pair perhaps people will respect British fighters more. I'm English and I couldn't give a **** about either of them and their fraudulent paper titles. I've got a lot of respect for Michael Brodie and Carl Thompson on that p4p list though.

As for why Americans "hate on" British fighters and not other racial and ethnic groups. It's like in Hollywood, how the bad guy is always a white Englishman/conservative/christian/red neck southerener/corporate suit. It's thanks to political correctness the only groups left that you can say anything remotely bad about are: whites/jews/christians/conservatives/heterosexuals/rednecks.
Thanks liberals!
:crazy: :banana: