Calzaghe IMO would punish Hopkins, anyone disagree?

i diagree because calzaghe is not worthy of a shot at hopkins. i think hopkins outboxes calzaghe to a wide UD

Calzaghe IMO would punish Hopkins, anyone disagree?
he prolly would
but would he be able to catch him?
as we saw
hokins wont take unesscary risk
and has no prob running around for half the fight

i diagree because calzaghe is not worthy of a shot at hopkins. i think hopkins outboxes calzaghe to a wide UD

How can the best fighter at super middle not be worthy of a fight with Hopkins?? :confused:

I honestly can believe how anyone could think that, he's had like 15 world title defences.

If Eastman who i admit is a very very raw fighter with terrible footwork could force the fight with Hopkins then i wouldnt expect it to go 12 rounds with Calzaghe. Calzaghe may not be as skillful as Nard but he beats him at everything else.

Doesnt suprise me someone from the UK made this thread. Calzaghe is fighting McGee next that just shows the calibre of his opponents i think that Hopkins would definitely beat him on points. I think Hopkins is gonna have two more fights and probably retire.

he prolly would
but would he be able to catch him?
as we saw
hokins wont take unesscary risk
and has no prob running around for half the fight

Calzaghe doesnt have much skill but he's the best athlete at super middle since Jones jr, he'd have no problems at cutting the ring off.

Doesnt suprise me someone from the UK made this thread. Calzaghe is fighting McGee next that just shows the calibre of his opponents i think that Hopkins would definitely beat him on points. I think Hopkins is gonna have two more fights and probably retire.

There's not bias in me, i picks fights on styles and not location.

Magee isnt much worst than Eastman, infact i'd say they were on a level par.

How can the best fighter at super middle not be worthy of a fight with Hopkins?? :confused:

I honestly can believe how anyone could think that, he's had like 15 world title defences.

If Eastman who i admit is a very very raw fighter with terrible footwork could force the fight with Hopkins then i wouldnt expect it to go 12 rounds with Calzaghe. Calzaghe may not be as skillful as Nard but he beats him at everything else.

eastman didnt deserve a shot either. calzaghe hasnt beaten anyone that would earn him a shot at hopkins.super middle is a weak division and i see a lot of padding on joe's record. let him fight lacy first

eastman didnt deserve a shot either. calzaghe hasnt beaten anyone that would earn him a shot at hopkins.super middle is a weak division and i see a lot of padding on joe's record. let him fight lacy first
ya it aint strong like the middleweight divison
:confused:

eastman didnt deserve a shot either. calzaghe hasnt beaten anyone that would earn him a shot at hopkins.super middle is a weak division and i see a lot of padding on joe's record. let him fight lacy first

Seriously Calzaghe's has fought a lot of world champions, some very good fighter in the past. his recent record isnt much to boast about but neither is Hopkins(except Tito). Also Middleweight is a weak division.

If Calzaghe has to fight Lacy(a 17-0 prospect) to become worthy of a Hopkins fight then WTF has happened to boxing??

If Eastman didnt deserve a shot then who does, Robert "i cant fight for ****" Allen?? Eastman was number 1 contender for years.

ya it aint strong like the middleweight divison
:confused:
hey a lot of matches can be made at that weight. tito,wright,hopkins,taylor,mayorga,and dlh have all add fights thier in the past year or are shcelduled to fight there.imo that is a pretty deep division

hey a lot of matches can be made at that weight. tito,wright,hopkins,taylor,mayorga,and dlh have all add fights thier in the past year or are shcelduled to fight there.imo that is a pretty deep division
titos there, ill give ya that
wright aint no full fledged midd hes junior so if u count him den we can count dem middles as super middles
taylor still lil to green for me
mayo aint nothin at middle
and same for dlh
as much as i luv him
he can do anythin there

I never seen Calzaghe fight, so I don't know who would win, but what are some of his strong points, and what's his style like?

I never seen Calzaghe fight, so I don't know who would win, but what are some of his strong points, and what's his style like?

Strong, very fast, hard punching, exciting fighter.

Buts he's not exactly stylish, he just throws as many shots as he can a tries to blow everyone out of there :D

titos there, ill give ya that
wright aint no full fledged midd hes junior so if u count him den we can count dem middles as super middles
taylor still lil to green for me
mayo aint nothin at middle
and same for dlh
as much as i luv him
he can do anythin there

but there is a lot more excitement in middle than in super middle.imo there is no comparison which division is deeper plus vargas is coming back at midle and same goes for quartey(i think)

finally someone suggests a matvh up that would be epic. These must get together and Tito should fight Otte.

finally someone suggests a matvh up that would be epic. These must get together and Tito should fight Otte.

You mean Ottke? I think Tito would blast him out.

You mean Ottke? I think Tito would blast him out.
unless the fight is in germany where tito could knock ottke down three hundred and forty seven times and ottke would still get the decision

unless the fight is in germany where tito could knock ottke down three hundred and forty seven times and ottke would still get the decision

I was thinking the same thing, i dont like to ***** about a nation in general but Germany sucks ass.

Ottke was king cheat in a country of bad decisions/refs.

unless the fight is in germany where tito could knock ottke down three hundred and forty seven times and ottke would still get the decision

Hell you can KO a German fighter in Germany and still lose on points!

Hopkins v. Calzaghe...this is a fight that I have been dreaming of for a few years now. I believe Calzaghe would handle Glenn Johnson with relative ease and I think if we are ever gonna watch Hopkins get old over night it is with a fighter exactly like Joe.

Joe has very fast hands and does not waste time figuring out opponents, he goes right after the kill from the get go. He has very good power and his chin has proven to be very sturdy.

Joe has faced bigger punchers than NArd and I feel that he would press Nard from the get go...I believe that Joe has faster hands than Hopkins and his chin and power are something that Hopkins would both feel and also be unable to exploit.

Nard will never get old fighting middleweights/Jr. Middleweights who think they can beat him in a chess match...they can't beat him in a chess match, I don't think anyone can. Calzaghes style is tailor made to give NArd a lot of trouble and it is the style that will make Nard look his age. Joe will force BErnard into a junkyard dog war from the the first round on and he will have to fight as physical a fight as any in his career.

Who wins?

This is a very close fight to call but if I had to bet the fight I would certainly bet Joe and I believe in my mind that Calzaghe is the slight favorite and you would most likely be able to get him at a price as well.

Hell you can KO a German fighter in Germany and still lose on points!

Maybe you havent seen a fight from Germany, they took points away from Robin Ried for throwing legal punches :D

Seriously, i think a KO is the only way to beat a named fighter over there.

Hopkins v. Calzaghe...this is a fight that I have been dreaming of for a few years now. I believe Calzaghe would handle Glenn Johnson with relative ease and I think if we are ever gonna watch Hopkins get old over night it is with a fighter exactly like Joe.

Joe has very fast hands and does not waste time figuring out opponents, he goes right after the kill from the get go. He has very good power and his chin has proven to be very sturdy.

Joe has faced bigger punchers than NArd and I feel that he would press Nard from the get go...I believe that Joe has faster hands than Hopkins and his chin and power are something that Hopkins would both feel and also be unable to exploit.

Nard will never get old fighting middleweights/Jr. Middleweights who think they can beat him in a chess match...they can't beat him in a chess match, I don't think anyone can. Calzaghes style is tailor made to give NArd a lot of trouble and it is the style that will make Nard look his age. Joe will force BErnard into a junkyard dog war from the the first round on and he will have to fight as physical a fight as any in his career.

Who wins?

This is a very close fight to call but if I had to bet the fight I would certainly bet Joe and I believe in my mind that Calzaghe is the slight favorite and you would most likely be able to get him at a price as well.

Totally agreed, if your near to retirement a wild pressure fighter like Calzaghe should be avoided.

Calzaghe gets Xecuted by Hopkins. JC has never faced anyone with the skills of Hopkins. JC's best opponent was against Charles Brewer on the downside of his career. JC wouldn't be throwing all of those punches he usually throws because Hopkins would counter-punch him, & accurately.

Calzaghe gets Xecuted by Hopkins. JC has never faced anyone with the skills of Hopkins. JC's best opponent was against Charles Brewer on the downside of his career. JC wouldn't be throwing all of those punches he usually throws because Hopkins would counter-punch him, & accurately.

I wonder why Hopkins turned the fight down then??

At the time i believe he was offered the biggest payday of his career. :confused:

I wonder why Hopkins turned the fight down then??

At the time i believe he was offered the biggest payday of his career. :confused:

He would've had to travel out to Wales or wherever JC fights. He probably didn't want to go overseas which I don't blame for not doing it.

He would've had to travel out to Wales or wherever JC fights. He probably didn't want to go overseas which I don't blame for not doing it.

Whethever the most money is because their both champions i their own right, but i do think they said America anyway.

do u guys just think germany has bad refs/scorign cause of that 1 fight or were there others?

do u guys just think germany has bad refs/scorign cause of that 1 fight or were there others?

Ottke has been very bad for Germany reputation but its others too, they used any excuse to kick Danny Green out of a fight once.

I dont like to bash a nation but Germany has a very bad reputation for a very good reason.

Calzaghe IMO would punish Hopkins, anyone disagree?


I disagree, but I'm sure it would be more competitive than Hopkins' last fight. Calzaghe would let his hands go more than Eastman.

calzaghe would have a better change then de la hoya did..i still cant believe that fight even went down :cool: ...

I disagree, but I'm sure it would be more competitive than Hopkins' last fight. Calzaghe would let his hands go more than Eastman.

Thinking about it punish is a strong word, i'd say a good win for Calzaghe. Calzaghe's a better fighter than Eastman without doubt.

Calzaghe gets Xecuted by Hopkins. JC has never faced anyone with the skills of Hopkins. JC's best opponent was against Charles Brewer on the downside of his career. JC wouldn't be throwing all of those punches he usually throws because Hopkins would counter-punch him, & accurately.

Brewer is definately not in Nards league but he sure as hell punches a lot harder than Bernard. If you watch Brewer vs. Clazaghe you will see that Joe did not care about getting hit...he took some bombs from Brewer and kept coming...

Antwun Echols was out on his feet against Brewer and then was slightly stunned himself and the fight was called. Point here is that Joe can go toe to toe with a real puncher and come out on top and a world class guy likie Echols needed a gift from the referree otherwise he probably would have ended up on his back.

Joe will not give Hopkins any respect in the ring just because NArd can counter punch and like I said earlier Joe has super fast hands, faster than Nard's...the pressure, speed and power of a bigger younger guy is what Hopkins should fear and that is the exact package that Joe brings to the table. Nard is done executing poeple all he cares about is winning and that is why he will never grant Joe a shot.

Joe needs to do everything in his power to force a Glenn Johnson fight...if he can become the undisputed LT HEAVY champ then maybe just maybe Nard will grant Joe the chance...but I seriously doubt it. If I am working on behalf of BErnard Joe CAlzaghe is not a guy I challenge...biggest risk out there with very little reward!

Hopkins 120-108

Hopkins 120-108


If that is the case that will be the hardest most exciting 120-108 fight of Bernard Hopkins's career.

Someone post some videos of Calzaghe's great performances. I saw him in an embarassing fight against Byron Mitchell where the ref got nervous and stopped the fight even though Joe was already down earlier in the round - and I saw an outdoor fight that was shown on Showtime (probably the one right before Mitchell?) where he struggled against a C- caliber fighter. Maybe I'm missing something.

I think Calz would be a good fight for Hopkins...it'd probably be the first time in awhile that we would see Hopkins stunned by 1 or more punches. I'd still say that Hop would beat Joe up in the late rounds of the fight and take a fairly close decision. Something to the tune of 7-4-1.

[QUOTE=scap]Brewer is definately not in Nards league but he sure as hell punches a lot harder than Bernard. If you watch Brewer vs. Clazaghe you will see that Joe did not care about getting hit...he took some bombs from Brewer and kept coming...

Antwun Echols was out on his feet against Brewer and then was slightly stunned himself and the fight was called. Point here is that Joe can go toe to toe with a real puncher and come out on top and a world class guy likie Echols needed a gift from the referree otherwise he probably would have ended up on his back.

Brewer wasn't able to counter JC because: 1- Brewer is on the downside of his career. 2-He doesn't have the skill or accuracy of Hopkins.
You don't need massive power to hurt any fighter, especially if you're countering a person. Those are the punches that hurt the most because alot of times you're not ready to take a punch like that. JC's chim has been checked on a couple of occasions by lesser skilled fighters.

Calzaghe IMO would punish Hopkins, anyone disagree?Hopkins would KTFO late. Easy.

i diagree because calzaghe is not worthy of a shot at hopkins. i think hopkins outboxes calzaghe to a wide UD

calzaghe is not worthy of a shot at hopkins lmao

Someone post some videos of Calzaghe's great performances. I saw him in an embarassing fight against Byron Mitchell where the ref got nervous and stopped the fight even though Joe was already down earlier in the round - and I saw an outdoor fight that was shown on Showtime (probably the one right before Mitchell?) where he struggled against a C- caliber fighter. Maybe I'm missing something.

Mitchell was battered and had no reply to a ****load of unanswered shots. He got knocked down about 10 seconds after he knocked Joe down, then was staggering all over the ring like a drunk. The ropes held him up, but he would have been down for the second time in the round if they weren't there. It is the ref's job to stop a fight if one fighter is getting dozens of unanswered shots. 10 more seconds and Mitchell would have been KO'd anyway.

The fight before Mitchell? American dude Tocker Pudwill -- a late substitute on 2 weeks notice who shouldn't have been anywhere near Joe Calzaghe and a pair of boxing gloves. He lasted one round, pretty much, although somehow he got off his stool for the second and probably wishes he hadn't. The fight before this? Miguel Angel Jimenez. That fight, if I remember correctly, was a complete shut out for Calzaghe who won 120-107 on all cards.

I'm not sure which fight you refer to as struggling with a C-class fighter?

calzaghe is not worthy of a shot at hopkins lmao

Lots of digging in the vaults today, Great Joe. Interesting to see some of these threads.