Hey Guys,
Ive only started training since febuary i have lost alot of weight and am currently in the gym everyday....
I am not putting on much muscle tho and struggle with heavier weights...
That people not much bigger then me can do no problem.
I have a balanced diet and dont eat any ****....
Im not really trying to get HUGE but just bigger,
as im quite a skinny guy now.
I was a little overweight but it was all in my stomach and i have lost that through hard work,
I was thinking of using steroid for a few weeks (as dumb as it may sound,)
I dont know much about them and not sure how they work,
i have heard terrible things about them and there side affects which leads me to wonder...
There are guys in my gym who use them orally and had the same problem as me...
And have grown very quickly and have become and alot stronger too....

This isnt a piss take just looking for advice...
Thank you


P.s. Hope this thread doesnt get me in trouble

never use steriods it will come back someday to haunt you.


better go natural and all of the hard work and determination wont go on vain

No.... hard work and dedication > steroids.

When you get off them, you lose 90% of what you gain... which is why they are addictive.


You need to consume as much protein as you weigh...

Example - 150lbs... you need 150 grams of protein.

Eat pastas and carbs, and lots of protein... chicken fish tuna and shakes.

And when your in the gym... lift heavy, and lift hard...

never use steriods it will come back someday to haunt you.


better go natural and all of the hard work and determination wont go on vain

Ive been working so hard mate and nothing happening,
its so frustrating when you spend 2-3hours a day in the gym and not gettin results you want

Ive been working so hard mate and nothing happening,
its so frustrating when you spend 2-3hours a day in the gym and not gettin results you want

you need to feed your body correctly... your muscles cant grow if they dont have enough protein

Ive been working so hard mate and nothing happening,
its so frustrating when you spend 2-3hours a day in the gym and not gettin results you want

sometimes you have to try something new in your training.

or another thing the grow is exponational you grow strong quick then after while you just grow little by little.

that little by little everyday wont be shown very quick but after long term like one year from now you will see the result.

Just record you training and see after one year you will look back and say how good you gotten

you need to feed your body correctly... your muscles cant grow if they dont have enough protein

I started off on creatine and got off it as i heard bad things,
im currently using protein and advised to cut out on carbs (im thinkin because i have bit of a pot belly,)
so ive stopped eating bread, pasta, rice etc etc....
I get up in the morning have breakfast which consists of Bacon and fruit,
i take natural wheat and fibre with no carbs aswell,
i go to the gym jog for 15mins and do weights for a least an hour....
Then i take one scoop of Protein and milk....
Lunch i eat chicken and maybe a salad....
Dinner i have a steak and again maybe a salad too....

I dont eat after 8pm,
maybe some fruit and always a protein shake again one scoop...
I plan to take cassein protein before i go to bed when i get my hands on some....

Im just under 13stone and 6"2

Am i going about this right???

Ive been working so hard mate and nothing happening,
its so frustrating when you spend 2-3hours a day in the gym and not gettin results you want

2-3 hours in the gym?I'm not a weight lifter but from what i've read and heard,too much time spent in the gym doesnt mean u gonna get bigger..it can acctualy harm u,check this site out they got lots of info and u can also look what training suits ur bodytype best www.bodybuilding.com,use weigh powder,carbs,proteins etc..dont use steroids u gonna regret it.

Yeah, it might be diet related. If you're busting ass in the gym and not seeing results you may just need to eat more. Guys who work out a lot need to take in a lot. If you burn more caloris then you take in you won't gain weight. And as mentioned before steroids do have fast resluts but you loose it just a quick, so there really is no "short term" with em, and the side affects of long term use are just not worth it IMO.

The odd cycle of D-wouldn't hurt anybody:boxing:
But just remember it won cure ugly lol

Hey Guys,
Ive only started training since febuary i have lost alot of weight and am currently in the gym everyday....
I am not putting on much muscle tho and struggle with heavier weights...
That people not much bigger then me can do no problem.
I have a balanced diet and dont eat any ****....
Im not really trying to get HUGE but just bigger,
as im quite a skinny guy now.
I was a little overweight but it was all in my stomach and i have lost that through hard work,
I was thinking of using steroid for a few weeks (as dumb as it may sound,)
I dont know much about them and not sure how they work,
i have heard terrible things about them and there side affects which leads me to wonder...
There are guys in my gym who use them orally and had the same problem as me...
And have grown very quickly and have become and alot stronger too....

This isnt a piss take just looking for advice...
Thank you


P.s. Hope this thread doesnt get me in trouble

I wouldn't use steroids if I was you, side affects and **** would effect you... plus you would feel much better about yourself if you did it the proper way.

Ive been working so hard mate and nothing happening,
its so frustrating when you spend 2-3hours a day in the gym and not gettin results you want

It wont happen over night, it would take many months to build up...

Ive been working so hard mate and nothing happening,
its so frustrating when you spend 2-3hours a day in the gym and not gettin results you want

That is overtraining. Seriously 14-21 hours a week in the gym is way too much and could be the cause for you not getting bigger. You know that when you lift weights you are creating microscopic tears in your muscles right? And that your muscles get bigger as your body repairs these tears to become bigger and stronger? So by working 2-3 hours a day, you arent giving your body time to repair and are just causing more damage to your muscle fibres. NEVER work the same body part two days in a row, most bodybuilders only work each body part once a week. Spend only around an hour in the gym when you go and try this 5 day split....
Monday: Back
Tuesday: Chest
Wednesday: Off
Thursday: Legs
Friday: Shoulders
Saturday: Arms
Sunday: Off

Try that and see how you get on.....

lol, little do people know, when they go to the doctors they sometimes put them on steroids.

Steroids aren't bad for you unless you go over board with it(your body depending on it). Either way though, it's up to you. Take too much for too long and your body will become dependent on it for the testosterone. Which means your body will stop producing it naturally and thus your balls shrivel up and melt away.

Hey Guys,
Ive only started training since febuary i have lost alot of weight and am currently in the gym everyday....
I am not putting on much muscle tho and struggle with heavier weights...
That people not much bigger then me can do no problem.
I have a balanced diet and dont eat any ****....
Im not really trying to get HUGE but just bigger,
as im quite a skinny guy now.
I was a little overweight but it was all in my stomach and i have lost that through hard work,
I was thinking of using steroid for a few weeks (as dumb as it may sound,)
I dont know much about them and not sure how they work,
i have heard terrible things about them and there side affects which leads me to wonder...
There are guys in my gym who use them orally and had the same problem as me...
And have grown very quickly and have become and alot stronger too....

This isnt a piss take just looking for advice...
Thank you


P.s. Hope this thread doesnt get me in trouble



Dont workout your whole body in one day. Split up the workout days and take days off. It good to eat smaller portions through out the day liek 5 to 6 times a day

Also accept that some people aren't going to be build like fitness models, if you're an ectomorph your body won't build much muscel especially volume. If you're an endomorph you'll build some muscel but have a ***** of a time staying lean.

Ive been working so hard mate and nothing happening,
its so frustrating when you spend 2-3hours a day in the gym and not gettin results you want

well theres your problem!!!!!

you should only be spening between 30mins to 1 hour in the gym a day posibly 1 and a half, if u rspending 2-3 hourrs then ur workout is probbly way too easy, ur working too many mucles groups or ur doing too much cardio, and u shudnt be doing any cardio, AND u shudnt be goin everyday, only 3-4 times a week, give ur muces time to recover, workthem harder aswell ! especialy if u can do 2-3 hour sessiosn.

To Thread Starter....

It's understandable why you want to "experiment". Here's what you get (not maybe, but "will get") for that quick "shortcut"

1) ***** tits
2) a skinny little dick
3) baldness
4) uncontrollable rage outbursts
5) short lifespan


in case that doesn't sink in...I'll elaborate

#1- when you take off your shirt, dudes will laugh at your little titties!
#2- Your girl will be doing your mates cause you got a small pecker!
#3- don't wear turtle necks cause you will look like a broken condom, baldy!
#4- You will lose your cool in front of the wrong person, ie; a cop, your mom's...
#5- Your heart, liver, kidneys...they will shut down...it's lights out!

JUST SAY NO!!!!!

People that take them Orally, are probobly taking M1T's and if you were to make the mistake of taking anything in that type of field that could be your worst option. Taking them orally means it passes through the digestive system which makes it very hard on your kidneys, which is why alot of people who take them have kidney failure later in life. So if your going down that route go with the injectibles since it goes directly into your blood stream.

That being said, the risk outweighs the positive when it comes to annabolic steroids. Would you really risk your life over looks? When it could be something as simple as a change of diet or routine.

Look, I will probably be one of the few posters here who more or less accepts steroids as a social phenomena and understands the risks and benefits. However, there are few substances in the world I have not tried and there is only one type I would say you need a very good education and support to use. Steroids are not for kids who want to look like Brad Pitt in two weeks before the spring break, so unless you have a good education in the field, e.g. dealt with people who are users, read good amount of literature, etc, stick to what the man in my quote is saying. Steroids are not cokaine or acid to experiment with, this is something you have to be completely knowledgable and sure about.


To Thread Starter....

It's understandable why you want to "experiment". Here's what you get (not maybe, but "will get") for that quick "shortcut"

1) ***** tits
2) a skinny little dick
3) baldness
4) uncontrollable rage outbursts
5) short lifespan


in case that doesn't sink in...I'll elaborate

#1- when you take off your shirt, dudes will laugh at your little titties!
#2- Your girl will be doing your mates cause you got a small pecker!
#3- don't wear turtle necks cause you will look like a broken condom, baldy!
#4- You will lose your cool in front of the wrong person, ie; a cop, your mom's...
#5- Your heart, liver, kidneys...they will shut down...it's lights out!

JUST SAY NO!!!!!

BTW, Guzi, I am glad to see you are alive and kicking. I always get bad feelings when the surving guys of our forum are not posting for too long.

Hey Guys,
Ive only started training since febuary i have lost alot of weight and am currently in the gym everyday....
I am not putting on much muscle tho and struggle with heavier weights...
That people not much bigger then me can do no problem.
I have a balanced diet and dont eat any ****....
Im not really trying to get HUGE but just bigger,
as im quite a skinny guy now.
I was a little overweight but it was all in my stomach and i have lost that through hard work,
I was thinking of using steroid for a few weeks (as dumb as it may sound,)
I dont know much about them and not sure how they work,
i have heard terrible things about them and there side affects which leads me to wonder...
There are guys in my gym who use them orally and had the same problem as me...
And have grown very quickly and have become and alot stronger too....

This isnt a piss take just looking for advice...
Thank you


P.s. Hope this thread doesnt get me in trouble

Ask Alex Rodriguez, Manny Ramirez, Sammmy Sosa, or David Ortiz......Better yet get the phone number to someone in the Dominican Republic. Im sure they can tell you.

To Thread Starter....

It's understandable why you want to "experiment". Here's what you get (not maybe, but "will get") for that quick "shortcut"

You should have stopped typing right here. You will not be guaranteed any of those side effects. People have used AAS without experiencing any of those side effects

1) ***** tits

Gynecomastia only occurs when Androgens convert to Estrogen via the aromatase enzyme. Not all steroids convert to estrogen so again it's not guaranteed Secondly Gynecomastia can be prevented with proper Post Cycle Therapy

2) a skinny little dick

This is another retarded comment that comes from people with ZERO knowledge. Your dick can't shrink. It's impossible. The only way your dick can shrink is if its cut off, which, yours should be so you can't spread your dumbass seed.

Your testicles atrophy due to HPTA shutdown from excess "foreign" hormones. Your body is getting it form another source, it has no reason to produce it so it shuts down.

Your balls retain their size again with proper Post Cycle Therapy

3) baldness

Another thing that is completely untrue. It's not guaranteed. Male Pattern Baldness is hereditary, if it runs in your family you have a hugh chance of it happening on cycle. Other than that it can happen when you dosing AAS too high. AKA Abusing

4) uncontrollable rage outbursts

Most steroids increase aggressiveness, but these so called rages are a myth and as human being we have the ability to control ourselves.


5) short lifespan

Nobody has died due to a direct use of steroids. FAIL

Organ failures occur with irresponsible use. Responsible, intelligent use heeds good results with minimal sides.

Another "myth" is that you lose everything you cain which is again 100% false. If you lost everything you gained on an 8 week cycle, nobody would use steroids. They'd be useless. If you cycle properly, eat right, train hard and continue to train hard after use, it's not unfathomable to keep 85-90% of your gains


You are a ****ing idiot. Please don't post about Steroids because you know nothing at all.



I suggest you try to reach your potential naturally first, before using AAS.

But if you are going to use them. Go with Injectables. It's easier on your liver and the side effects are minimal.

Orals have to survive the first pass through the liver and have more side effects.

a candle that allways burns its brightest will not burn as long. he said shortened life span not death and im sure it will shorten your life span. just like a cig takes 7 mins off your life im sure some steroids takes more then just 7 mins i mean look at arnold (62) compared to jack la lane (95)

I do not/will not ever screw around with hormones, pro-hormones, or steroids. That **** works on your body's endocrine system and I don't wanna risk that type of thing. Lift hard, lift heavy, eat a lot. 30mins-1hr is plenty of time for hitting the gym. You can cut it short and work on 3/4 day splits or full body routines, taking longer. Steroids have many risks as stated by others, gyno, acne, testical shrinking, etc. Stay natural IMO, you can use other supplements and still be natural es: Protein, BCAA, Creatine, Multi, etc.

Just don't do that stuff man.

You should have stopped typing right here. You will not be guaranteed any of those side effects. People have used AAS without experiencing any of those side effects



Gynecomastia only occurs when Androgens convert to Estrogen via the aromatase enzyme. Not all steroids convert to estrogen so again it's not guaranteed Secondly Gynecomastia can be prevented with proper Post Cycle Therapy



This is another retarded comment that comes from people with ZERO knowledge. Your dick can't shrink. It's impossible. The only way your dick can shrink is if its cut off, which, yours should be so you can't spread your dumbass seed.

Your testicles atrophy due to HPTA shutdown from excess "foreign" hormones. Your body is getting it form another source, it has no reason to produce it so it shuts down.

Your balls retain their size again with proper Post Cycle Therapy



Another thing that is completely untrue. It's not guaranteed. Male Pattern Baldness is hereditary, if it runs in your family you have a hugh chance of it happening on cycle. Other than that it can happen when you dosing AAS too high. AKA Abusing



Most steroids increase aggressiveness, but these so called rages are a myth and as human being we have the ability to control ourselves.




Nobody has died due to a direct use of steroids. FAIL

Organ failures occur with irresponsible use. Responsible, intelligent use heeds good results with minimal sides.

Another "myth" is that you lose everything you cain which is again 100% false. If you lost everything you gained on an 8 week cycle, nobody would use steroids. They'd be useless. If you cycle properly, eat right, train hard and continue to train hard after use, it's not unfathomable to keep 85-90% of your gains


You are a ****ing idiot. Please don't post about Steroids because you know nothing at all.



I suggest you try to reach your potential naturally first, before using AAS.

But if you are going to use them. Go with Injectables. It's easier on your liver and the side effects are minimal.

Orals have to survive the first pass through the liver and have more side effects.
Lyle Alzado. If you do not know who that "WAS", you're too immature. youngin, you should do some research.

i used to be real skinny too and started off slow but thats how it is. my friend never lifted and he's skinny as well and when he came to do shoulders with me one time he couldnt even military 25lbs in each hand. how long have you been lifting and whats your routine look like? what is your rep and sets as well. lifting heavy isnt necessarily going to give you the quickest results. you have to lift within a set and rep range for muscle building. body builders are strong but not that strong. the muscles are for sure majority of the time. yeah they can lift big weights as well but look at the rep and set range they can do it for. ronnie coleman does 3-5 sets 8-12reps+ for his routines. i do 4x10 myself. creatine isnt bad for you unless you are really any sort of side effects on yourself. use supplements as directed. steroids has no actual case studies done because that would involve human testing which would pretty much be illegal. watch bigger stronger faster documentary it will shed some light on steroids. If you look at what they say about the side effects it says "MAY" cause blah blah blah. you dont need steroids and you dont need supplements. supplements are used to surpass what you cant do naturally and you havent even gotten passed 5% of what you could achieve naturally. stop trying to find an easy way out and go do work.

Lyle Azado. If you do not know who that "WAS", you're too immature. youngin, you should do some research.

Lyle Alzado. You mean the football player for the Raiders that died due to a brain tumor which his own doctor said had nothing to do with his use of steroids?

No. Who is he?

Idiot. You don't know ****. You buy into the bull**** and scare tactics of the 11 o'clock news who report on steroids without a single shred of proof to back up their claims.

If steroids are so bad and kill people why haven't all bodybuilders, people with AIDS and HIV, people with muscle wasting diseases, people who want to live a more fulfilling life by using doctor prescribed testosterone, died as a result?

You are and idiot. Don't comment on this subject.

You should have stopped typing right here. You will not be guaranteed any of those side effects. People have used AAS without experiencing any of those side effects



Gynecomastia only occurs when Androgens convert to Estrogen via the aromatase enzyme. Not all steroids convert to estrogen so again it's not guaranteed Secondly Gynecomastia can be prevented with proper Post Cycle Therapy



This is another retarded comment that comes from people with ZERO knowledge. Your dick can't shrink. It's impossible. The only way your dick can shrink is if its cut off, which, yours should be so you can't spread your dumbass seed.

Your testicles atrophy due to HPTA shutdown from excess "foreign" hormones. Your body is getting it form another source, it has no reason to produce it so it shuts down.

Your balls retain their size again with proper Post Cycle Therapy



Another thing that is completely untrue. It's not guaranteed. Male Pattern Baldness is hereditary, if it runs in your family you have a hugh chance of it happening on cycle. Other than that it can happen when you dosing AAS too high. AKA Abusing



Most steroids increase aggressiveness, but these so called rages are a myth and as human being we have the ability to control ourselves.




Nobody has died due to a direct use of steroids. FAIL

Organ failures occur with irresponsible use. Responsible, intelligent use heeds good results with minimal sides.

Another "myth" is that you lose everything you cain which is again 100% false. If you lost everything you gained on an 8 week cycle, nobody would use steroids. They'd be useless. If you cycle properly, eat right, train hard and continue to train hard after use, it's not unfathomable to keep 85-90% of your gains


You are a ****ing idiot. Please don't post about Steroids because you know nothing at all.



I suggest you try to reach your potential naturally first, before using AAS.

But if you are going to use them. Go with Injectables. It's easier on your liver and the side effects are minimal.

Orals have to survive the first pass through the liver and have more side effects.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060824161228AAW7t2I

[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lyle_Alzado&action=edit&section=7)] Steroid use and death

Alzado is probably most remembered today for being one of the first major U.S. sports figures to admit using steroids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid). In the last years of his life, as he battled against the brain tumor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_tumor) that eventually caused his death at the age of 43, Alzado asserted that his steroid abuse directly led to his fatal illness, but every single one of his physicians stated it could not possibly be true, and that while steroids do have harsh side effects, they were not the cause of his brain cancer. According to some reports, Alzado was using natural growth hormone, harvested from human corpses, as opposed to synthetic growth hormones. However, shortly before his death, Alzado recounted his steroid abuse in an article in Sports Illustrated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_Illustrated). He said:
<TABLE class=cquote style="MARGIN: auto; BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; BORDER-LEFT-STYLE: none; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none"><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 35px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 10px; COLOR: #b2b7f2; PADDING-TOP: 10px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; TEXT-ALIGN: left" vAlign=top width=20>“</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; PADDING-TOP: 4px" vAlign=top>I started taking anabolic steroids in 1969 and never stopped. It was addicting, mentally addicting. Now I'm sick, and I'm scared. Ninety percent of the athletes I know are on the stuff. We're not born to be 300 lbs or jump 30 ft. But all the time I was taking steroids, I knew they were making me play better. I became very violent on the field and off it. I did things only crazy people do. Once a guy sideswiped my car and I beat the hell out of him. Now look at me. My hair's gone, I wobble when I walk and have to hold on to someone for support, and I have trouble remembering things. My last wish? That no one else ever dies this way."<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-2>[ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyle_Alzado#cite_note-2)</SUP></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lyle_Alzado&action=edit&section=7)] Steroid use and death

Alzado is probably most remembered today for being one of the first major U.S. sports figures to admit using steroids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid). In the last years of his life, as he battled against the brain tumor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_tumor) that eventually caused his death at the age of 43, Alzado asserted that his steroid abuse directly led to his fatal illness, but every single one of his physicians stated it could not possibly be true, and that while steroids do have harsh side effects, they were not the cause of his brain cancer. According to some reports, Alzado was using natural growth hormone, harvested from human corpses, as opposed to synthetic growth hormones. However, shortly before his death, Alzado recounted his steroid abuse in an article in Sports Illustrated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_Illustrated). He said:
<TABLE class=cquote style="MARGIN: auto; BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; BORDER-LEFT-STYLE: none; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none"><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 35px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 10px; COLOR: #b2b7f2; PADDING-TOP: 10px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; TEXT-ALIGN: left" vAlign=top width=20>“</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; PADDING-TOP: 4px" vAlign=top>I started taking anabolic steroids in 1969 and never stopped. It was addicting, mentally addicting. Now I'm sick, and I'm scared. Ninety percent of the athletes I know are on the stuff. We're not born to be 300 lbs or jump 30 ft. But all the time I was taking steroids, I knew they were making me play better. I became very violent on the field and off it. I did things only crazy people do. Once a guy sideswiped my car and I beat the hell out of him. Now look at me. My hair's gone, I wobble when I walk and have to hold on to someone for support, and I have trouble remembering things. My last wish? That no one else ever dies this way."<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-2>[ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyle_Alzado#cite_note-2)</SUP></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060824161228AAW7t2I

[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lyle_Alzado&action=edit&section=7)] Steroid use and death

Alzado is probably most remembered today for being one of the first major U.S. sports figures to admit using steroids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid). In the last years of his life, as he battled against the brain tumor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_tumor) that eventually caused his death at the age of 43, Alzado asserted that his steroid abuse directly led to his fatal illness, but every single one of his physicians stated it could not possibly be true, and that while steroids do have harsh side effects, they were not the cause of his brain cancer. According to some reports, Alzado was using natural growth hormone, harvested from human corpses, as opposed to synthetic growth hormones. However, shortly before his death, Alzado recounted his steroid abuse in an article in Sports Illustrated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_Illustrated). He said:
<TABLE class=cquote style="MARGIN: auto; BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; BORDER-LEFT-STYLE: none; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none"><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 35px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 10px; COLOR: #b2b7f2; PADDING-TOP: 10px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; TEXT-ALIGN: left" vAlign=top width=20>“</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; PADDING-TOP: 4px" vAlign=top>I started taking anabolic steroids in 1969 and never stopped. It was addicting, mentally addicting. Now I'm sick, and I'm scared. Ninety percent of the athletes I know are on the stuff. We're not born to be 300 lbs or jump 30 ft. But all the time I was taking steroids, I knew they were making me play better. I became very violent on the field and off it. I did things only crazy people do. Once a guy sideswiped my car and I beat the hell out of him. Now look at me. My hair's gone, I wobble when I walk and have to hold on to someone for support, and I have trouble remembering things. My last wish? That no one else ever dies this way."<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-2>[ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyle_Alzado#cite_note-2)</SUP></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lyle_Alzado&action=edit&section=7)] Steroid use and death

Alzado is probably most remembered today for being one of the first major U.S. sports figures to admit using steroids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid). In the last years of his life, as he battled against the brain tumor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_tumor) that eventually caused his death at the age of 43, Alzado asserted that his steroid abuse directly led to his fatal illness, but every single one of his physicians stated it could not possibly be true, and that while steroids do have harsh side effects, they were not the cause of his brain cancer. According to some reports, Alzado was using natural growth hormone, harvested from human corpses, as opposed to synthetic growth hormones. However, shortly before his death, Alzado recounted his steroid abuse in an article in Sports Illustrated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_Illustrated). He said:
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LOL you just owned yourself. Look at the bolded part!!!!!


If you actually read this you would realize he started and never stopped taking steroids. This is call abusing, not intelligent use.

Abusing steroids will obviously have more detrimental side effects that someone who uses them responsibly.

But nowhere on a credible source does it say that he died from using steroids. He ****ed himself up because his dumbass never cycled off, but it didn't kill him. He died from a Brain Tumor.

Lyle Alzado. You mean the football player for the Raiders that died due to a brain tumor which his own doctor said had nothing to do with his use of steroids?

No. Who is he?

Idiot. You don't know ****. You buy into the bull**** and scare tactics of the 11 o'clock news who report on steroids without a single shred of proof to back up their claims.

If steroids are so bad and kill people why haven't all bodybuilders, people with AIDS and HIV, people with muscle wasting diseases, people who want to live a more fulfilling life by using doctor prescribed testosterone, died as a result?

You are and idiot. Don't comment on this subject.right, coming from 21 year old that thinks he knows it all. I don't ever recall disrespecting you, Silva. I ain't mad at you, you can call people Idiots, stupid, say what you'd like dude, look pretty for the camara.

I seen alot of guys just like you, pee in thier pants, couldn't last two days in Southeastern Afghanistan. When you're ready to play a real mans game I got an extra pair of boots and ACU's....Sticks and Stones....a real man's game, these guys would love to put a bullet in your head. Come on down tough guy, enlist. First thing I show is RESPECT.

And don't even get me started on wrestlers. My friend was in the pro wrestling business and believe me, steroids aren't the only thing floating around.

Cocaine, Speed, Amphetamines, Marijuana, Hard Liquor, Painkillers, Sedatives, Muscle Relaxants.

Steroids are the least of concern among Pro Wreslters

And don't even get me started on wrestlers. My friend was in the pro wrestling business and believe me, steroids aren't the only thing floating around.

Cocaine, Speed, Amphetamines, Marijuana, Hard Liquor, Painkillers, Sedatives, Muscle Relaxants.

Steroids are the least of concern among Pro Wreslters
cool. I respect your knowledge, If you can keep it clean, no name calling, being mature...lets debate.

right, coming from 21 year old that thinks he knows it all. I don't ever recall disrespecting you, Silva. I ain't mad at you, you can call people Idiots, stupid, say what you'd like dude, look pretty for the camara.

I seen alot of guys just like you, pee in thier pants, couldn't last two days in Southeastern Afghanistan. When you're ready to play a real mans game I got an extra pair of boots and ACU's....Sticks and Stones....a real man's game, these guys would love to put a bullet in your head. Come on down tough guy, enlist. First thing I show is RESPECT.

I don't know it all. But I clearly know more than you when it comes to the use of Anabolic Steroids.

However I am kinda mad that you just come in here and post stupid **** and not only that, complete lies to which you have no formal knowledge of other than what you pull of wikipedia. People like you get other people hurt with your ignorance.

Of course. Refer to me as less than man because I won't prove my Machismo and manliness by lacing up and pair of boots and laying down my life for a cause that I don't even agree with.

Typical counter-argument for someone who is trying to dance around their lack of knowledge.

I respect what you do, though. Kudos

EDIT: and yes I can keep it clean if you can. I just think posting the stuff you did kinda ticked me off.