For some reason I went off boxing in the mid 90s (maybe it was because of Frank Bruno saying moronic things like "it's no more dangerous than playing football" [meaning soccer, not American football]

But has any fight been so visceral, so brutal, part of you almost wants to turn away from watching?

For me, a lot of Tyson fights were like that - I used to get off on how brutal and viscious that guy was in his hey day, but appalled as well. I don't like the shots I've seen of boxers getting killed in the ring, and Ali vs. Terrell ("What's my name, Tom? WHAT'S MY NAME?") was just a one-sided butchery towards the end of it.

The one most recently for me was Danny Williams vs. Vitali Klitschko. I've followed Danny for around six years now, and while I was proud of the guy for getting up and carrying on, part of me wished he didn't have that much heart...



[The title of this post should read stop watching boxing, not stop boxing... oops!]

It's not really while you're watching the action that you see the real brutality. The actual brawling is not that brutal to look at usually. On the visual and perceptive points of view, pro wrestling and, yes, football and even ice hockey are far more violent to see.

It's what happens next (after the fight) that sometimes depresses me and makes me think twice about the sport. I think there are more deaths in boxing than any other contact sports, where the worst a player gets is a broken limb.

When a boxer dies (either immediately or gradually) or become mentally incapacitated because of brain injury, I don't know what you call it, but boxing ceases to be a SPORT and an entertainment. It becomes something reminiscent of the gladiator battles of old, although less bloody or gory. :eek:

I never wanted to stop watching boxing but there have been a couple of fights which made me step back from watching for a short period. Those being Gerald Mcclellan/Nigel Benn and Trevor Berbick/Muhammad Ali. The latter because it was so ****ing depressing watching a shell of the greatest ever being destroyed in front of millions.

Did you get The Ring highlights of 2004? There was a photospread pullout, and it had freeze frames of punches landing - it's always amazing how distorted the face gets when you look at it that way. The most brutal would have to be Minto/Maddalone, the funniest a tie between Braithwaite/Azille and Brewster/Klitschko.

arent you suposed to be banned anorak ?

Arturo Gatti-Joey Gamache

brutally sickening..half the video was gamache lying in the
ring then being stretchered out.

total mismatch..

im not sure it made me wanna stop watching but it squashed
any ideas i had of becoming an amateur fighter :D

BTW in terms of injuries and quite ironically brain injuries futball is much more dangerous than boxing and I dont even talk about other physical injuries that happen to every football player atleast couple of times per season. Even though it is painful for me to see the mismatches where one guy gets battered to unconciousness I will never stop watching boxing for these reasons becouse imho the ring is the only place where you can see people letting out their real selves and that is beautiful.

Watching Benn/McClellan was kind of scary looking at the G-man taking a knee and keep blinking from the repeated blows to the head..

It's one of those fights where you know how it will end, but it never loses its effect..

You can see the blows what did it to him, too..

Benn-McClellan made me question myself & my love of the sport.
That fight was just plain eerie. The atmosphere was one of violence, the fight was brutal.....& to see McClellan fall into that state while celebration took place around him, truly troubled me.
That was just a dark, dark night.

BTW in terms of injuries and quite ironically brain injuries futball is much more dangerous than boxing and I dont even talk about other physical injuries that happen to every football player atleast couple of times per season. Even though it is painful for me to see the mismatches where one guy gets battered to unconciousness I will never stop watching boxing for these reasons becouse imho the ring is the only place where you can see people letting out their real selves and that is beautiful.
Sorry, to clarify, I wasn't referring to American Football, which I can see is extremely physical - you got that, right? I was referring to English football (soccer), which is far less of a contact sport. Unless you're Vinnie Jones.

Watching Benn/McClellan was kind of scary looking at the G-man taking a knee and keep blinking from the repeated blows to the head..

It's one of those fights where you know how it will end, but it never loses its effect..

You can see the blows what did it to him, too..

yeah, that bout...

that bout did it...for me, every time I watch it I question my involvement in the sport, ask myself "is it worth it?" after a little bit of depression and realization, I realize "Yes"

but yeah good pick, that was what I was looking to post. when Gerald started blinking after bein hit on that brain stem (behind head)I knew his optical nerves were severed,sickens me to think about it

For some reason I went off boxing in the mid 90s (maybe it was because of Frank Bruno saying moronic things like "it's no more dangerous than playing football" [meaning soccer, not American football]

But has any fight been so visceral, so brutal, part of you almost wants to turn away from watching?

For me, a lot of Tyson fights were like that - I used to get off on how brutal and viscious that guy was in his hey day, but appalled as well. I don't like the shots I've seen of boxers getting killed in the ring, and Ali vs. Terrell ("What's my name, Tom? WHAT'S MY NAME?") was just a one-sided butchery towards the end of it.

The one most recently for me was Danny Williams vs. Vitali Klitschko. I've followed Danny for around six years now, and while I was proud of the guy for getting up and carrying on, part of me wished he didn't have that much heart...



[The title of this post should read stop watching boxing, not stop boxing... oops!]
nope cant say that a brutal fight would make me not want to watch boxing. in facct i like brutal fights ;)

arent you suposed to be banned anorak ?

Yeah no kidding. This guy is a worthless piece of **** with no life.

Benn-McClellan made me question myself & my love of the sport.
That fight was just plain eerie. The atmosphere was one of violence, the fight was brutal.....& to see McClellan fall into that state while celebration took place around him, truly troubled me.
That was just a dark, dark night.

yeah true that

you had mcclellan in one corner, slipping into a coma for life

and in the other corner, a reporter interviewing a triumphant benn. it was the weirdest, most sickening, odd sight in modern sports history.

Yeah no kidding. This guy is a worthless piece of **** with no life.

lol

served

yeah true that

you had mcclellan in one corner, slipping into a coma for life

and in the other corner, a reporter interviewing a triumphant benn. it was the weirdest, most sickening, odd sight in modern sports history.

what about fanman? i think that was quite odd

lol

served
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---------------------------------Ha ha ha! Is this joker still following me around posting his bile? That's hilarious - I've had him on ignore for a week. There really is no point with some people. I've got no life, yet Warrior Spirit follows me around posting crap on my threads?

Warrior, you're a smack-talking halfwit who can't thread two sentences together. My God, I'm really jealous of you and that pathetic joker Slipx - keep posting your bile, Slipx, I'll keep it on hidden ignore. If you were a poster with half a brain I'd listen, but you're just some silly little kid who can't even adhere to logic or post without swearing. What a little prick you are... both of you.

Benn-McClellan

I think McClellan got wat he deserved
he used to bring dogs home everyday for his dog to kill!!
it's just karma

Ha ha ha! Is this joker still following me around posting his bile? That's hilarious - I've had him on ignore for a week. There really is no point with some people. I've got no life, yet Warrior Spirit follows me around posting crap on my threads?

Warrior, you're a smack-talking halfwit who can't thread two sentences together. My God, I'm really jealous of you and that pathetic joker Slipx - keep posting your bile, Slipx, I'll keep it on hidden ignore. If you were a poster with half a brain I'd listen, but you're just some silly little kid who can't even adhere to logic or post without swearing. What a little prick you are... both of you.



Hey, what was that **** you got banned for saying about Max Schmelling?

You have ****ing balls for coming back on here and saying the **** you do to people considering what you said about MS.

When will you get a life and understand that no one on this site likes you?

I don't actually care if people who just want to talk smack and are morons dislike me... I'm not going to talk about the subject you mentioned because it's irrelevant to this thread.

:hijacked: :spam: :hijacked:

Well this has now become a thread made for the lounge..

I don't actually care if people who just want to talk smack and are morons dislike me... I'm not going to talk about the subject you mentioned because it's irrelevant to this thread.


You are a sick ****** for that little "joke", who will soon be exposed for all to see...your time is coming.

You are a sick ****** for that little "joke", who will soon be exposed for all to see...your time is coming.Say what? :) Is that a threat? Wow, I'm really, really scared. How am I going to be "exposed" then?

If it was anyone else posting this, maybe I'd take your point. But the fact that you seem to find it acceptable to post abuse against minorities ("******") just shows what kind of person you are.

:hijacked: :spam: :hijacked:

Well this has now become a thread made for the lounge..


:hijacked: Yeah, a shame, Jack. These guys'd have you believe they were the salt of the Earth - ha ha!

Tszyu V Miguel Angel Gonzales was quite brutal.

Say what? :) Is that a threat? Wow, I'm really, really scared. How am I going to be "exposed" then?

If it was anyone else posting this, maybe I'd take your point. But the fact that you seem to find it acceptable to post abuse against minorities ("******") just shows what kind of person you are.

I know what kind of person I'am and I know that I'm not a scumbag like you who writes sick jokes because they have no life. I'm done talking to you here, however I will be creating a thread about your "joke" in the lounge and will expose you for the fraud and sick **** you truly are...

Remove user from ignore listWarrior Spirit
This message is hidden because Warrior Spirit is on your ignore list. I think it's for the best. I've tried reasoning with this guy through PM, but all you get is the halfwitted smack that he says on the board anyway. I'm not going to get involved in this kind of abuse, and you can't reason with the guy, so why bother?

As for the other incident, yeah, I've made my apologies to Rick. As it's his forum, he's the only one who I'm answerable too. It was a mistake, and a bad one. But anyone who thinks posting four-letter hate abuse against minorities is justifiable by another's lack of judgement is nowhere in my book.

All I know is that the gay pride stuff is gross ... You don't have to wave it around like its a good thing. You know you can have sigs that pertain to boxing, instead of flashing gay ****... Wow you're gay, congratulations, can you stop now?

Warrior, you're a smack-talking halfwit who can't thread two sentences together. My God, I'm really jealous of you and that pathetic joker Slipx - keep posting your bile, Slipx, I'll keep it on hidden ignore. If you were a poster with half a brain I'd listen, but you're just some silly little kid who can't even adhere to logic or post without swearing. What a little prick you are... both of you.[/QUOTE]


Wow, no wonder you got banned before. That was utterly the gheyest response I have ever set eyes on. I hope they ban you. Again. Good riddance to you and your flashing signs and obnoxious behaviour. Fact of the matter is you take it up the..... :eek:

Warrior, you're a smack-talking halfwit who can't thread two sentences together. My God, I'm really jealous of you and that pathetic joker Slipx - keep posting your bile, Slipx, I'll keep it on hidden ignore. If you were a poster with half a brain I'd listen, but you're just some silly little kid who can't even adhere to logic or post without swearing. What a little prick you are... both of you.


Wow, no wonder you got banned before. That was utterly the gheyest response I have ever set eyes on. I hope they ban you. Again. Good riddance to you and your flashing signs and obnoxious behaviour. Fact of the matter is you take it up the..... :eek:[/QUOTE]


You should have seen the **** he wrote about Max Schmelling. He is a ****ing moron.

Do you have that thread? I read his others and they are all about how he sucks, everybody hates him, people hate british people, and how people hate gay people. See a pattern?

lol
and i smell the love going around the room by now.
how did the thread about a brutal fight
become this??

Do you have that thread? I read his others and they are all about how he sucks, everybody hates him, people hate british people, and how people hate gay people. See a pattern?Who the **** are you anyway?!!?

I tell you what, I take on all-comers - any of these guys got a 7-on-1 attack they'd wet their pants.

Mind you, it does help that you're all stupid I suppose...

:hijacked: That says all I need to know.

Anyone care to talk about the topic?

Why did you post those pictures?
thats is sick man
there is somethign wrong with you
that is like crossing the line.

you should get banned

yes, thank you for those pictures. im now a much happier person than i was before i saw them :rolleyes:

Hey, what was that **** you got banned for saying about Max Schmelling?

You have ****ing balls for coming back on here and saying the **** you do to people considering what you said about MS.

When will you get a life and understand that no one on this site likes you?

just place him on ignore, the quality of the forum will increase after having done so.

filter that little ***** out and the quality of the board dramatically increases, too bad I still see his limpdick threads when he makes them, though ;O

and yeah, after he got banned, he sent rick multiple posts, begging him, to let him back on. only a disabled hermaphrodite would do such a thing.

Slipx
This message is hidden because Slipx is on your ignore list. Ha ha ha! Prick. :)

I know what kind of person I'am and I know that I'm not a scumbag like you who writes sick jokes because they have no life. I'm done talking to you here, however I will be creating a thread about your "joke" in the lounge and will expose you for the fraud and sick **** you truly are...

He wants you to argue with him, that's what a troll does- pull you into an argument, they like conflict..

You gotta understand that ignoring him is the best thing to do, arguing with a troll is like feeding a monkey in the zoo bananas. they love em

he has zero boxing knowledge, except for tyson, he's here for attention only. tune that ****er out and you'll notice the board becomes classier, more intelligent, and less immature

Slipx
This message is hidden because Slipx is on your ignore list. He really wants my arse, doesn't he? :) What a sad loser! :)

:hijacked:

Again - the topic that this was supposed to be about??

Anyway, now that that disgusting **** has been removed, I'll reply on this thread:

There have been a few fights that stopped being a competition between sportsman, and became a brutal beating. That puts me off, completely, and those refs who let fights like that continue should be sentenced to be the next victim of the winner of that bout.

For me, boxing is a sport, nothing more. That's why we have rules. It's just sad that boxing seems to appeal to the bloodlust in some folk. That's not what it's about for me. When I see a huge heavyweight connect squarely with a big punch on another fighter, I cringe, because I know it's no fun catching a shot like that. I'm torn between enjoying it when a guy finds a way to land that one, big shot because of his ring smarts, and feeling bad for the guy catching it.....unless the guy catching it is James Toney...then I don't mind quite as much ;)

He really wants my arse, doesn't he? :) What a sad loser! :)

Speak for yourself homo... your on here all the time.

Why did you post those pictures?
thats is sick man
there is somethign wrong with you
that is like crossing the line.

you should get banned

Who posted the pictures and what were they?

Who posted the pictures and what were they?


I shouldn't say, and you don't wanna know (trust me on the second point).

I shouldn't say, and you don't wanna know (trust me on the second point).

Okay maybe I don't wanna know about what the pictures were, but I must know who posted the photos.

Okay maybe I don't wanna know about what the pictures were, but I must know who posted the photos.


slavik18

he must be
pretty ****ing sick

:hijacked:

So... has any fight been so brutal it almost put you off watching boxing?

:hijacked:

So... has any fight been so brutal it almost put you off watching boxing?

none what so ever
i think brutality is part of the sport
they only way a fight would make me wanna
stop watching boxing would be oine of those Ruiz
wanna a hug fights
im serius that ***** keeps huging

none what so ever
i think brutality is part of the sport
they only way a fight would make me wanna
stop watching boxing would be oine of those Ruiz
wanna a hug fights
im serius that ***** keeps huging

I couldn't agree more.

Before you pertain to calling me a sick **** etc etc... See the thread named Moderator. Should clear this up.

Before you pertain to calling me a sick **** etc etc... See the thread named Moderator. Should clear this up.
yeah that was a big confussion
but you cant blame me for calling you
sick after seeing those pictures

none what so ever
i think brutality is part of the sport
they only way a fight would make me wanna
stop watching boxing would be oine of those Ruiz
wanna a hug fights
im serius that ***** keeps huging

well,

once Ruiz was a better fighter, but he has slacked off in training in his later years, and diet, apparently- so when he feels the heat, rather than get the **** up out the kitchen, he just holds on to the stovetop ;)

well,

once Ruiz was a better fighter, but he has slacked off in training in his later years, and diet, apparently- so when he feels the heat, rather than get the **** up out the kitchen, he just holds on to the stovetop ;)

which proves my point
right???

which proves my point
right???

yeah but I didn't finish what I was going to say in that post, had to flip a steak

the thing is, when you are out of shape like that,especially at heavyweight, and facing a young bull, you get exhausted and have no other choice when you get hurt, but to grab and hold on for dear life- and it is dear life you are holding on for, especially in the heavyweight division, where your entire life can change with one punch. with one punch, a guy can change the way you walk, taste food, or even remember your own family. so i havent lost respect for ruiz just for hugging, in his prime, he was a force in the division. granted, not a force like tyson or tua, but a force nonetheless. I gotta admit I don't agree with his fighting style, or the way he turned out, but I still respect him for being 41-5 in the heavyweight division, and fighting the top US based fighters when they were in their primes like Tua, he knew tua was a beast and didnt duck him,took his KO like a man and went back to the gym the next day. most fighters wouldve retired after a shot like that, tuas right uppercut as ruiz went down was ****ing brutal.

Yeah...when Danny Williams got the fat beat out of him from Vitali Klit...he got beat like a 5 dollar crack whore...everytime he got hit, his blubber would flop over to one side and his man boobs would sway like Jello gelatin...it was not a pretty sight...even an Englishman shouldn't get a humiliating beat down like that.





(to answer your question though: No it did't make me want to stop watching boxing...just wanted to point that out about Williams)

Hey, what was that **** you got banned for saying about Max Schmelling?

You have ****ing balls for coming back on here and saying the **** you do to people considering what you said about MS.

When will you get a life and understand that no one on this site likes you?
Seeing as how your registered since Jan. of 2005, exactly where in the **** do you get off saying who people on this forum like and don't like, Sorry bud but apart from one bad error in judgement(the Schmelling fiasco), I happen to think that Anorak is good for this forum. You on the other hand I'm not too sure about, BTW I love your first post saying that Anorak's a piece of ****, all the while your avatar shows a true piece of **** on the highest level!:cool:

I went and saw Tszyu V Pedro Sanchez in Melbourne in 1994, which was Tszyu's last fight before he won the IBF title & beat Jake the Snake Rodriguez in 1995. It was pretty brutal - I loved it & my dad loved it, but two of my buddies felt sick. They weren't huge boxing fans admittedly.
I had a broken jaw & was not long out of hospital, but couldn't stay still!!

haha it goes on and on.

warrior spirit.

boxingscene hardman, seeker of vengeance & "in the closet" homophobe

so should i repost my gatti-gamache post cause yall have had
a 5 page argument.

die *****es