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LMAO "He can go and fight in Sambo tournaments every f*ckin Thursday if he wants!!"

**** fedor. what a clown.

Yes，I suppose So

I don't blame him for going off like that.

This is one of those rare moments that I'm siding with Dana 100%. He has no reason to lie about what he offered Fedor

Fedor will sign now, clever stuff from dana.

Fcuk fedor :boxing:

Fedor will sign now, clever stuff from dana.

:lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1:

gotta give Dana credit for trying his hardest to get Fedor.

Fedor can go screw himself now. The wanker has even openly admitted he does not fight to be the best, does not care about his legacy, does not fight for the money. What the hell is he in it for? He's just frustrating the hell out of the fans of his own sport.

Whether u like it or not but UFC DOES NOT have the best fighter in the world...period..u guys ***** and ***** as much as u want..

is fedor's and his crew being un reasonable..yea.
man ufc fans are OBSEST with fedor lol...

These gifs made me laugh:

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Forget fedor and just move on. Obviously he doesnt care what anyone, including his fans think. Maybe he's worried that he might get exposed.?

4Get about him.

Come fight in Japan Fedor!

Forget fedor and just move on. Obviously he doesnt care what anyone, including his fans think.Maybe he's worried that he might get exposed.?

4Get about him.

Exactly...he doesn't give a ****. He's happy doing what he wants.

was he talking about floyd mayweather

well u guys have to realize that fador fights with no purpose.... he obviously can care less about money and legacy, or his fans.... just let him be, and lets look forward to the fights, and the fighters that are already in the ufc....

Come fight in Japan Fedor!


Yea go fight for this guy in Japan I'm sure his $50 will fill your pockets just fine. Meanwhile Brock will be the one making all the money and building a credible legacy. Not that Fedors legacy isn't set it's just that there's no way in hell he remains #1 HW in the world fighting in Japanese bars.

Whether u like it or not but UFC DOES NOT have the best fighter in the world...period..u guys ***** and ***** as much as u want..

is fedor's and his crew being un reasonable..yea.
man ufc fans are OBSEST with fedor lol...

Lol overall who has better fighters? Yeahhh....
I'm pretty sure its a fact that most MMA fighters aspire to be in the UFC one day since its considered the major league by many.

Not for money, not for legacy, not for fans, wtf.

This is one of those rare moments that I'm siding with Dana 100%. He has no reason to lie about what he offered Fedor

Same here. Dana pisses me off sometimes but he did everything he could to give us what we wanted. I can't believe Fedor didn't take that deal. He better reconsider. If he doesn't then **** him.

Fedor doesn't give a **** about wagon-jumping fans who get pissed because he didn't sign with the UFC.

TRUTH, sorry. =[

PS: There are no challenges in the UFC for him and there are no challenges in Japan for him. Why not go back to Japan where everyone loves you?

Lol what wagon jumping fans. The bandwagon consists of people who say Fedor can do whatever he wants cause...he's Fedor, i.e. you.

If you don't fight to be the best why fight at all. Sorry I was unaware a true champion becomes great that fights whoever he wants after even if they're cans.

Yea go fight for this guy in Japan I'm sure his $50 will fill your pockets just fine. Meanwhile Brock will be the one making all the money and building a credible legacy. Not that Fedors legacy isn't set it's just that there's no way in hell he remains #1 HW in the world fighting in Japanese bars.

LOL WTF? Thank's for the flattery but I'm not a promoter. As a fan, I'd like for Fedor to come fight in Japan, where I'll be living.

Lol what wagon jumping fans. The bandwagon consists of people who say Fedor can do whatever he wants cause...he's Fedor, i.e. you.

If you don't fight to be the best why fight at all. Sorry I was unaware a true champion becomes great that fights whoever he wants after even if they're cans.
I agree with Bricks, you are a bunch of reactionary UFC band wagoneers.

You guys fail to recognize that Fedor is his own brand. He can fight where he wants, when he wants and people will pay.

Business negotiations are by nature private so the truth is we don't know what was actually discussed in negotiations, and we never will. The UFC is a PROMOTIONAL entity, that is all. The sport is MMA not Ultimate Fighting.

Hmm, K. You don't seem to get it. Get all the best talent put em in Dream, if Fedor signs ok he's fighting the best I'm happy. Put em Sengoku, let him fight there. Put him @ KFC's Fight For Wings, let him fight there. IDC. Point is IMO, that a true champ fights the best.

Hmm, K. You don't seem to get it. Get all the best talent put em in Dream, if Fedor signs ok he's fighting the best I'm happy. Put em Sengoku, let him fight there. Put him @ KFC's Fight For Wings, let him fight there. IDC. Point is IMO, that a true champ fights the best.
The clear difference is the UFC's binding contracts, to which Fedor would not by subject in other organizations. Essentially, Fedor is free to fight anyone in the world except for fighters currently under contract with the UFC. If he were to sign, now he can ONLY fight fighters who are currently under contract with the UFC.

In addition, as I mentioned above Fedor is his own brand. To sign with the UFC would be essentially to sign his brand over to Dana White and company.

Also, the UFC HW division is weak, as it always has been. Having a 3-1 hypejob as champion doesn't change this, it illustrates the reality.

The UFC arguably has the top LHW talent in the world. That is all.

Fedor doesn't give a **** about wagon-jumping fans who get pissed because he didn't sign with the UFC.

TRUTH, sorry. =[

Fedor isn't a PPV draw. He's fought in 4 different organizations, none of them were a success on PPV, and all of them coincidentally tanked.

Your reference to 'wagon jumping fans' refers to those other than hardcore MMA fans. Newsflash buddy, hardcore MMA fans make up a very small percentage of paying customers. That's a fact.

Another fact is that as long as this deal doesn't go through, Fedor's legacy in the sport will have a black cloud hanging over it. He will be remembered as the fighter who didn't do what it took to fight the best fighters out there.



PS: There are no challenges in the UFC for him and there are no challenges in Japan for him. Why not go back to Japan where everyone loves you?

No challenges?!

You must be smoking rocks. Brock Lesnar has proven that his combination of size, speed, agility, and wrestling skill make him an absolute nightmare for anyone. Including Fedor.

Plus, the UFC has easily got the best group of up and coming heavyweights like Cain, Carwin, and even a few of the guys in the upcoming TUF season.



Anyone who doesn't believe that the UFC has the best fighters on the planet is a moron. The UFC is the NFL of MMA.

Also, the UFC HW division is weak, as it always has been. Having a 3-1 hypejob as champion doesn't change this, it illustrates the reality.

The UFC arguably has the top LHW talent in the world. That is all.

Hype job ?


Frank Mir moved up to as high as the 2nd best heavyweight in MMA, after he destroyed Big Nog.

Mir had two fights with Brock and was dominated all of but about 8 - 10 seconds of both fights.

Please, the hype job **** is old. Brock will beat the **** out of most heavyweights in MMA, and will definitely give anyone of them a run for their money at the very least.

The sport has never seen anyone like him. He is a super-athlete.

The clear difference is the UFC's binding contracts, to which Fedor would not by subject in other organizations. Essentially, Fedor is free to fight anyone in the world except for fighters currently under contract with the UFC. If he were to sign, now he can ONLY fight fighters who are currently under contract with the UFC.

In addition, as I mentioned above Fedor is his own brand. To sign with the UFC would be essentially to sign his brand over to Dana White and company.
dana already said he can have anything he wants, he can fight other fighters as long as he fights whats hes contractually obligated to. ufc dont care what he does in his spare time.

and im pretty confident they would be open to negotatiate the dates for his fights, so that he can do his other stuff.

and the 6 fight deal could be a 1 fight deal if thats what fedor wants. cro cop did the same thing and ufc were fine with it. im sure theyde even let him fight brock for his title, and if he wins, let him go and have no heavyweight champ.

its the co-promotion that was the deal breaker and thats it. nothing else.

Hype job ?


Frank Mir moved up to as high as the 2nd best heavyweight in MMA, after he destroyed Big Nog.

Mir had two fights with Brock and was dominated all of but about 8 - 10 seconds of both fights.

Please, the hype job **** is old. Brock will beat the **** out of most heavyweights in MMA, and will definitely give anyone of them a run for their money at the very least.

The sport has never seen anyone like him. He is a super-athlete.

Hahahahahahhahaahhaahahaahhahahahahahahahaha. http://boxingscene.com/forums/mysmiliesvb/mysmilie_342.gif

Great reply.

I guess you didn't read the post on the last page where I ****ted on your idiotic statements.

Hype job ?


Frank Mir moved up to as high as the 2nd best heavyweight in MMA, after he destroyed Big Nog.

Mir had two fights with Brock and was dominated all of but about 8 - 10 seconds of both fights.

Please, the hype job **** is old. Brock will beat the **** out of most heavyweights in MMA, and will definitely give anyone of them a run for their money at the very least.

The sport has never seen anyone like him. He is a super-athlete.

Brock IS a hype job, and you are simply buying into the hype.

dana already said he can have anything he wants, he can fight other fighters as long as he fights whats hes contractually obligated to. ufc dont care what he does in his spare time.

and im pretty confident they would be open to negotatiate the dates for his fights, so that he can do his other stuff.

and the 6 fight deal could be a 1 fight deal if thats what fedor wants. cro cop did the same thing and ufc were fine with it. im sure theyde even let him fight brock for his title, and if he wins, let him go and have no heavyweight champ.

its the co-promotion that was the deal breaker and thats it. nothing else.

Sorry but I don't believe any of this, nor do a believe a thing that comes out of Dana White's mouth.

he'll be more butthurt cause Fedor signed with Strikeforce

Brock IS a hype job, and you are simply buying into the hype.






How so ?

He anhiated arguably the second best heavyweight at the time in Frank Mir. Completely dominated every second of the fight. Lost the first fight by making a rookie mistake, but dominated that fight as well.

He also destroyed the greatest UFC heavyweight of all time in Randy Couture.

What's more impressive, is that he's done it with such a limited amount of experience, and is improving in every fight.


You don't steamroll guys like Mir and Couture by being a hype job.

Brock is a hype job. His few fights have shown that he can only rely on his size to win; someone will find a way around that soon enough.

Dana White is the biggest joke in MMA. And he is also the biggest bull****ter out there. He takes his foot out of his ass and puts it in his mouth so much.

How so ?

He anhiated arguably the second best heavyweight at the time in Frank Mir. Completely dominated every second of the fight. Lost the first fight by making a rookie mistake, but dominated that fight as well.

He also destroyed the greatest UFC heavyweight of all time in Randy Couture.

What's more impressive, is that he's done it with such a limited amount of experience, and is improving in every fight.


You don't steamroll guys like Mir and Couture by being a hype job.

Lol, great champ indeed.. But way way way past his prime.. He was like 45-46 years old or something like that when he fought Brock.. And still gave Brock a run for his money.

Brock is a hype job. His few fights have shown that he can only rely on his size to win; someone will find a way around that soon enough.

Dana White is the biggest joke in MMA. And he is also the biggest bull****ter out there. He takes his foot out of his ass and puts it in his mouth so much.
I think Shane Carwin would cause Brock to momentarily see Jesus.

Brock is a hype job. His few fights have shown that he can only rely on his size to win; someone will find a way around that soon enough.

Dana White is the biggest joke in MMA. And he is also the biggest bull****ter out there. He takes his foot out of his ass and puts it in his mouth so much.

Rely on his size ?

With your logic, Hong Man Choi should be the best fighter out there.


You forgot to mention that the guy moves like a lightweight, and has some of the most solid wrestling ability in MMA.

If you trained in BJJ at all, you would see that there was plenty of technique applied in his fight against Mir. Specifically, in Mir's halfguard.

Lol, great champ indeed.. But way way way past his prime.. He was like 45-46 years old or something like that when he fought Brock.. And still gave Brock a run for his money.

I agree, Couture put up a good fight against a much larger, stronger, quicker, and younger fighter.

Brock has athleticism and size, if you took away his size advantage I think a lot of his fights would be much different.

Rely on his size ?

With your logic, Hong Man Choi should be the best fighter out there.


You forgot to mention that the guy moves like a lightweight, and has some of the most solid wrestling ability in MMA.

If you trained in BJJ at all, you would see that there was plenty of technique applied in his fight against Mir. Specifically, in Mir's halfguard.

LMAO! FYI I have trained before. And honestly, the only good thing he did was avoid the initial leglock by your #2 heavyweight Frank Mir (****ing retard). Other than that, it was like me picking on my little brother. Just held him down.

Umm.. Yeah, your Hong Man Choi comparison is just ****ing stupid.

Brock may be fast but he moves less like a lightweight and more like a boulder. In all honesty Shane Carwin would probably knock him out.

It's pretty obvious that you only watch UFC, and even then started watching like 3 months ago. Stop listening to Joe Rogan and start looking at what is happening in the cage.


Before you start touting about Randy's greatness, you need to realize that the guy has a horribly average record. He's FAR FAR FAR from unbeatable and Lesnar is the type of guy that Randy has never been able to win against (I'll let you look that up). Now you want me to believe in a guy who smashed an average 45+ year old fighter? He was supposed to win that fight and he did.

As for Frank Mir... Dude... Shut up and go watch him like 2 or 3 fights ago. He looked like a complete tragedy against Pe de Pano, Christison, and Vera. Even before the motorcycle accident (did you know about that?) he looked like crap against Wes Sims (****ing WES SIMS!!!) and Ian the punching bag Freeman

Noguiera is hardly even a relevant fighter anymore. Fedor pretty much beat him retarded; he is more shot than Wanderlei Silva and Chuck Liddell (sorry guys).

That's all I got for now... I'm sure you'll give me more to go off of :loser:

Brock is a hype job. His few fights have shown that he can only rely on his size to win; someone will find a way around that soon enough.

Dana White is the biggest joke in MMA. And he is also the biggest bull****ter out there. He takes his foot out of his ass and puts it in his mouth so much.

i wouldn't say hypejob.

he's one dimensional.

he is a skilled wrestler and with his size and strength is difficult for anyone.

i think brock can beat fedor.

i wouldn't say hypejob.

he's one dimensional.

he is a skilled wrestler and with his size and strength is difficult for anyone.

i think brock can beat fedor.
Brock is basically the epitomy of a hypejob. Did he earn his "title shot?" No. He was hyped into it.

Brock is basically the epitomy of a hypejob. Did he earn his "title shot?" No. He was hyped into it.


A hypejob is someone that is built up to be something that they aren't.


I don't see how you can label Brock as one, when he beat Couture, who was the man to beat. Then went on to pummel Mir, who was the man who also beat 'the man'.


Frank Mir, Couture, and Big Nog were the top 3 heavyweights in the UFC.

Brock has wins over two of them, and the 3rd in Big Nog, was beat by Mir to set up the Championship fight.

Who else can he possibly beat at heavyweight who is more established than who he already beat..?


As far as him not 'earning' his title shot.

Who gives a ****? He obviously was given the shot because of his marketability. Plus, it was a low risk, high reward type of situation.

If he lost, no harm no foul. He lost to the champion, who is also probably the greatest heavyweight champion in UFC history.

If (when) he won, then he is catapulted into Superstar status and all of the mystique that comes with being Brock Lesnar.

Its payed dividends for the UFC.

It was a business move, and was successful. He took advantage which is why, how he got the shot is unimportant.

A hypejob is someone that is built up to be something that they aren't.


I don't see how you can label Brock as one, when he beat Couture, who was the man to beat. Then went on to pummel Mir, who was the man who also beat 'the man'.


Frank Mir, Couture, and Big Nog were the top 3 heavyweights in the UFC.

Brock has wins over two of them, and the 3rd in Big Nog, was beat by Mir to set up the Championship fight.

Who else can he possibly beat at heavyweight who is more established than who he already beat..?


As far as him not 'earning' his title shot.

Who gives a ****? He obviously was given the shot because of his marketability. Plus, it was a low risk, high reward type of situation.

If he lost, no harm no foul. He lost to the champion, who is also probably the greatest heavyweight champion in UFC history.

If (when) he won, then he is catapulted into Superstar status and all of the mystique that comes with being Brock Lesnar.

Its payed dividends for the UFC.

It was a business move, and was successful. He took advantage which is why, how he got the shot is unimportant.

Ignored my post... but that's ok. At least you acknowledge that Brock is a business move. The UFC heavyweight division needs some youth though. Cro Cop, Couture, and Big Nog are WAAAAYYY past it.

that was awesome :lol1:

Brock is basically the epitomy of a hypejob. Did he earn his "title shot?" No. He was hyped into it.

whether he earned his title shot or not is irrelevant to being a hypejob.

he won his belt(s).

a hypejob is someone who is made out to be something that they aren't.

fact is brock beat a solid heavyweight in heath herring and 2 good heavyweights in couture and mir.



you need to look up what hypejob means.

A hypejob is someone that is built up to be something that they aren't.


I don't see how you can label Brock as one, when he beat Couture, who was the man to beat. Then went on to pummel Mir, who was the man who also beat 'the man'.


Frank Mir, Couture, and Big Nog were the top 3 heavyweights in the UFC.

Brock has wins over two of them, and the 3rd in Big Nog, was beat by Mir to set up the Championship fight.

Who else can he possibly beat at heavyweight who is more established than who he already beat..?


As far as him not 'earning' his title shot.

Who gives a ****? He obviously was given the shot because of his marketability. Plus, it was a low risk, high reward type of situation.

If he lost, no harm no foul. He lost to the champion, who is also probably the greatest heavyweight champion in UFC history.

If (when) he won, then he is catapulted into Superstar status and all of the mystique that comes with being Brock Lesnar.

Its payed dividends for the UFC.

It was a business move, and was successful. He took advantage which is why, how he got the shot is unimportant.

Couture was hardly "the man." Do you know that he had not fought in 15 months? That he had previously resigned from the UFC and relinquished his title? That he was 45? That his record just isn't that good?

Frank Mir? Please. He made a name beating Tim Sylvia. He also beat a washed up legend in Nog, who was riddled with staff infection.

You are rehashing the hype, not debunking it.

whether he earned his title shot or not is irrelevant to being a hypejob.

he won his belt(s).

a hypejob is someone who is made out to be something that they aren't.

fact is brock beat a solid heavyweight in heath herring and 2 good heavyweights in couture and mir.



you need to look up what hypejob means.

Brock is most definitely a hype job. People are calling him the #2 HW in the world now. If that is not making Brock out to be something he's not, then I don't know what is.

I'm not going to argue with you over semantics. Yes I know what the term means, and yes Brock is a hype job. You are just buying into this if you do not admit it.

Shane Carwin>>>>>>>Brock Lesnar

lmao its you dana you fkn wanker. He doesn't like the organization or your ethical philosophy on business and fighter welfare. Someone send him a box of tissues please.