View Full Version : UFC 100 does 1.5 million PPV buys, one of the biggest PPVs in history
Greatness 08-02-2009, 12:33 AM Biggest PPV in UFC history. The previous record for a UFC PPV was UFC 66 with 1.05 million buys. :cool:
1. 5/5/07 - Oscar De La Hoya vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. - 2,400,000 buys
2. 6/8/02 - Lennox Lewis vs. Mike Tyson - 1,995,000 buys.
3. 6/28/97 - Mike Tyson vs. Evander Holyfield II - 1,990,000 buys
4. 11/9/96 - Mike Tyson vs. Evander Holyfield - 1,600,000 buys
5. 8/19/95 - Mike Tyson vs. Peter McNeely - 1,580,000 buys
6. 7/11/09 - UFC 100 - 1,500,000 buys
Greatness 08-02-2009, 12:34 AM F$ck! Wrong section. Pls move.
street bully 08-02-2009, 12:38 AM Mike Tysons tune up fight did better, and that was in 1995 when people didn't like buying PPVs like they do today.
Gareth Ivanovic 08-02-2009, 12:39 AM At least McNeely could say he was in one of the top 5 PPV's of all time LOL!!!!!!
flyest1 08-02-2009, 12:41 AM Mike Tyson was the man. I knew UFC would do well. I don't how anyone couldn't see that.
skyler 08-02-2009, 12:54 AM Not so suprising.. One of the good things about UFC ppv is the cards are always stacked with great fighters.
rao007 08-02-2009, 01:09 AM I was a mma fan before a boxing fan and I will tell you this---THIS SUCCESS WON'T LAST. Not even close to the decline that boxing has had over the decades. I promise you. MMA will decline much, much faster. The reason why UFC 100 did so well was because of Brock Lesnar--the luckiest SOB who was blessed with a gorilla body with strength to go along. Once he is defeated due to his atrocious standup and lack of submission defense--UFC will lose its appeal. THAT I GAURANTEE!! The audience needs characters they have known for a while, someone who appeals to them. THis goes also with female mma, no offense. Gina Carano is just good lucking; that will go away. Watch the next few UFC events and see if you don't see sales slump. UFC needs Brock "The horse shoe up his ass" Lesnar to keep it going for a while; then they will find their next wrestling freak to debut in their events. They will quickly find that, like boxing, they cannot consistently put forth shows like UFC 100 with arseholes like Brock which the public will gravitate to. But props to them fo their success.
kswizzy99 08-02-2009, 01:11 AM actually it did 1.72 million.
Lucky Charms 08-02-2009, 01:16 AM Who the **** cares about PPV buys? It means nothing. Oscar vs Floyd was the highest selling of all time, yet I've been more entertained by free fights on the spanish channel.
Crazylegs77 08-02-2009, 01:19 AM Doesnt MMA draw wrestling fans so not suprised the ppvs do well. I dont think they are aware the fights are real though :lol1:
fdotorres 08-02-2009, 01:23 AM Mike Tysons tune up fight did better, and that was in 1995 when people didn't like buying PPVs like they do today.
UFC 100 is still the biggest PPV since ODLH vs floyd
Infern0 08-02-2009, 01:25 AM How many buys you think Tyson - Holy 3 will do?
rich6666 08-02-2009, 01:41 AM It has done 1.5 million ppv in America
Didn't Mayweather v Hatton do 1million in uk alone?
i get confused with these ppv numbers.
them_apples 08-02-2009, 02:03 AM If boxing put that many names on one card they would stomp UFC.
GroundSt.Pound 08-02-2009, 02:24 AM Pretty damn good cosidering how short a time MMA has been around
F l i c k e r 08-02-2009, 03:23 AM How many buys you think Tyson - Holy 3 will do?
Not PPV.
If boxing put that many names on one card they would stomp UFC.
Boxing can't. Too many egos that will demand too much money.
Miklo Velka 08-02-2009, 03:30 AM If boxing put that many names on one card they would stomp UFC.
CO-SIGN. and some MMA people say boxing is dying? look at the numbers. Boxing is stronger than MMA, you never saw all of boxing almost die off like the UFC did.
BAM RIGHT IN THE KISSER
BOLLOCKS 08-02-2009, 03:31 AM **** UFC....
Miklo Velka 08-02-2009, 03:53 AM **** ufc....
co - sign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GREEN K
Phenomkidd 08-02-2009, 03:55 AM CO-SIGN. and some MMA people say boxing is dying? look at the numbers. Boxing is stronger than MMA, you never saw all of boxing almost die off like the UFC did.
BAM RIGHT IN THE KISSER
UFC/MMA as we know it was a young and struggling Org/Sport. It almost died because cable wouldn't allow it on TV and the controversy it created. It didn't get sanctioned by many states, venues wouldn't let them use their place, etc. Thats was when it was out of the womb. What we got right now is a lil kid learning to ride a bike.
BOLLOCKS 08-02-2009, 04:09 AM co - sign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GREEN K
Thanks, Milkweed. :D
Miklo Velka 08-02-2009, 07:47 AM Thanks, Milkweed. :D
no problem you John Dillinger look alike LOL. who is that suppose to be anyways
Caesar 08-02-2009, 10:22 AM awesome, technically i like the ufc, but it is to brutal for me
Shadow boxer 3 08-02-2009, 10:33 AM **** UFC....
co-sign. green k sent
MOREBASS 08-02-2009, 11:41 AM Mike Tysons tune up fight did better, and that was in 1995 when people didn't like buying PPVs like they do today.
In 1995 the economy was thriving. Now it is in its' worst state since the Great Depression. Plus, your statement doesn't make sense when 3 of the top 5 best selling PPV's of all time were within that same time period of 95-97
I was a mma fan before a boxing fan and I will tell you this---THIS SUCCESS WON'T LAST.
If that's the case, then you haven't been a fan of either for very long.
Not even close to the decline that boxing has had over the decades. I promise you. MMA will decline much, much faster. The reason why UFC 100 did so well was because of Brock Lesnar
No, the reason why UFC 100 did so well is because they also had arguably the best pound for pound fighter in Georges St. Pierre, fighting the only person who might stand a chance to beat him, in Thiago Alves. Not to mention the other quality fights on the card.
--the luckiest SOB who was blessed with a gorilla body with strength to go along. Once he is defeated due to his atrocious standup and lack of submission defense--UFC will lose its appeal. THAT I GAURANTEE!!
Lucky? He dominated every single second of that fight, with intelligent grappling, and dominant positioning.
The audience needs characters they have known for a while, someone who appeals to them. THis goes also with female mma, no offense. Gina Carano is just good lucking; that will go away. Watch the next few UFC events and see if you don't see sales slump. UFC needs Brock "The horse shoe up his ass" Lesnar to keep it going for a while; then they will find their next wrestling freak to debut in their events. They will quickly find that, like boxing, they cannot consistently put forth shows like UFC 100 with arseholes like Brock which the public will gravitate to. But props to them fo their success.
You do realize that the UFC in 2008 surpassed boxing, in terms of PPV sales right? This decline you speak of only exists in your mind. The UFC has been putting up consisntent numbers, even when Brock Lesnar isn't fighting.
He is what the UFC/MMA needed in terms of a crossover superstar, but they were hardly struggling without him.
MOREBASS 08-02-2009, 11:44 AM If boxing put that many names on one card they would stomp UFC.
And what you fail to realize is that this will never happen. Not as long as greedy promoters and fighters are demanding these 7 and 8 figure purses.
The main event fighters essentially get almost all of the money from a card, which is why we usually will get one quality match, and then 3 or 4 ****ty fights.
Things have changed a bit in 2009, but until boxing can put together more solid cards, with quality and well known fights and fighters, its fans will feel like they aren't getting their moneys worth.
Miki Nakayama 08-02-2009, 03:10 PM actually it did 1.72 million.
QFT.
I don't understand why people are hating on those numbers.
Phenomkidd 08-02-2009, 03:25 PM Well MMA is just a lil kid right now maybe they fear how big its gonna get, its also those guys who are insecure about boxing's status, they feel they gotta **** on MMA because they have to protect and defend boxing from "that other fighting sport." Which IMO is stupid cause I love both sports.
Kakutogi-Gumi 08-02-2009, 04:00 PM QFT.
I don't understand why people are hating on those numbers.
McDojoism. My style is better then yours.
Plain and simple.
kswizzy99 08-02-2009, 04:28 PM CO-SIGN. and some MMA people say boxing is dying? look at the numbers. Boxing is stronger than MMA, you never saw all of boxing almost die off like the UFC did.
BAM RIGHT IN THE KISSER
UFC has sold more ppv's in the last 3 years than boxing has. sure, boxing is still bigger, but boxing has had a 100 year head start. look at how much the UFC has grown just in the last decade. And even this year, the UFC is still growing even though we're going through a bad recession.
As much as I like boxing more than mma, I have to say that UFC is on its way up, and boxing is on its way down. Not that I think boxing will ever die, but in about 10 years(maybe even less) you will never see a boxing ppv even do 800k buys. mark it.
Phenomkidd 08-02-2009, 04:46 PM Whats sad is both could coexist since they ARE different sports its really the fans who do damage to what could be. I would like in 50,60,70 years to sit on my couch and see UFC 200 and Manny Pacquiao the 3rd vs Miguel Cotto the 3rd both blow away the talent and popularity of what is now.
Nodogoshi 08-02-2009, 05:44 PM co-sign. green k sent
non-cosigned, red k sent.
Lucky Charms 08-02-2009, 05:55 PM Not that I think boxing will ever die, but in about 10 years(maybe even less) you will never see a boxing ppv even do 800k buys. mark it.
I don't think in a few years HBO will be doing PPVs at all. Showtime has already stopped. It will be just Showtime and HBO for big fights, ESPN2 and Versus for rising prospects, with the occasional network tv fight card put on by Golden Boy. Top Rank will continue with it's Latin Fury and Pinoy Power PPVs because those turn a profit and write pay checks for the up and comers, but those only get around 100k.
MOREBASS 08-02-2009, 05:56 PM Whats sad is both could coexist since they ARE different sports its really the fans who do damage to what could be.
Both sports can, and will coexist.
The opinions by people on internet message boards do not reflect the sentiment of the paying customers. There are ignorant people on both sides of the fence, who feel like they need to choose a side.
I love both sports, train in both, and have been to mega events for both sports and enjoy it all.
I am simply a fight fan.
Lucky Charms 08-02-2009, 06:03 PM I really think the Super Six tournament is the future of boxing. With Showtime showing all the early rounds and the semifinals and finals being on CBS. I think Showtime is already prepping 140lbs for a tournament if 168 is successful. If an American wins it, they will be a bigger star than Pacquiao, Mayweather, Mosley, ect. They will be nearing Oscar De La Hoya status.
HBO has to be feeling the pressure of this, and competition between the two networks = great for the fans (so long as they don't try to put shows on at the same time).
MOREBASS 08-02-2009, 06:06 PM I really think the Super Six tournament is the future of boxing. With Showtime showing all the early rounds and the semifinals and finals being on CBS. I think Showtime is already prepping 140lbs for a tournament if 168 is successful. If an American wins it, they will be a bigger star than Pacquiao, Mayweather, Mosley, ect. They will be nearing Oscar De La Hoya status.
HBO has to be feeling the pressure of this, and competition between the two networks = great for the fans (so long as they don't try to put shows on at the same time).
Um, no.
Winning a tournament does not guarantee anything. It takes more than just boxing skills to become a crossover star. It takes charisma, personality, charm, and even good looks to become what De La Hoya was.
Pacquiao is a superstar because of his style of fighting, and his humble personality. He's an every man's man, and people can relate to that.
Like I said, boxing skills alone do not necessarily mean you are going to be a star.
Lucky Charms 08-02-2009, 06:13 PM Um, no.
Winning a tournament does not guarantee anything. It takes more than just boxing skills to become a crossover star. It takes charisma, personality, charm, and even good looks to become what De La Hoya was.
Pacquiao is a superstar because of his style of fighting, and his humble personality. He's an every man's man, and people can relate to that.
Like I said, boxing skills alone do not necessarily mean you are going to be a star.
Fighting the best will make any of the Americans competing a star. Dirrell and Ward both have fan friendly personalities as does Taylor (that doesn't matter though because he won't win), and Ward is already building himself a nice hometown fan base in the Bay Area. Pacquiao's audience for his fights has been limited to less than 5 million. With the momentum from over a year of the best fighting the best on Showtime, and with the semifinals being on network tv, the finals on CBS will get over 10 million viewers.
Even if Abraham wins, he has the ingredients to become a superstar in the sports world. He's working terribly hard on his English and it has improved so much, and he always goes for the KO.
Sandwich 08-02-2009, 08:22 PM I don't believe your numbers are correct. UFC 100 pulled in 1.72 million buys.
I'm seeing articles all over the place calling UFC 100 the 3rd biggest PPV event in history.
BOLLOCKS 08-02-2009, 10:30 PM UFC/MMA is for *****es.
Phenomkidd 08-02-2009, 10:53 PM lol, especially when probably everyone in the UFC could **** you up.
them_apples 08-02-2009, 11:03 PM And what you fail to realize is that this will never happen. Not as long as greedy promoters and fighters are demanding these 7 and 8 figure purses.
The main event fighters essentially get almost all of the money from a card, which is why we usually will get one quality match, and then 3 or 4 ****ty fights.
Things have changed a bit in 2009, but until boxing can put together more solid cards, with quality and well known fights and fighters, its fans will feel like they aren't getting their moneys worth.
yea Boxing cards are rarely as stacked, but the one big fight is almost always better. Boxing super fights >>> MMA super fights (if they exists). Even if the big names take most of the cash, the smaller names still make a hell of a lot more than the smaller names on a UFC card.
BOLLOCKS 08-03-2009, 12:00 AM lol, especially when probably everyone in the UFC could **** you up.
I'll just blast them to their deaths.
Phenomkidd 08-03-2009, 12:16 AM Lol gun to a known fist fight, thats a ***** move.
GroundSt.Pound 08-03-2009, 12:39 AM yea Boxing cards are rarely as stacked, but the one big fight is almost always better. Boxing super fights >>> MMA super fights (if they exists). Even if the big names take most of the cash, the smaller names still make a hell of a lot more than the smaller names on a UFC card.
Well most boxing Main Events are super fights. There are fights on MMA cards that are more exciting and appealing than most boxing superfights. Even MMA Prelims are better than some boxing bouts I've seen in the last few years
Sanchez/Guida was a lot more exciting than most boxing superfights I've seen in a while.
Most MMA Superfights usually aren't as good because one of the fighters is usually completely outclassed ie (St. Pierre/Penn 2)
And again with Boxing Hardcores it all comes down to money. Money doesn't make a sport and doesn't make for better fights.
UFC/MMA is for *****es.
Why do you come in here if you hate MMA? Really get lost.
Phenomkidd 08-03-2009, 12:43 AM Sanchez vs Guida was a VERY exciting fight, I thought Guida was gonna go more than a couple times.
GroundSt.Pound 08-03-2009, 12:46 AM Sanchez vs Guida was a VERY exciting fight, I thought Guida was gonna go more than a couple times.
I couldn't believe how exciting that fight was. I figured it would be a war but nothing like it was. Clay has a hell of a ****in chin.
MOREBASS 08-03-2009, 02:06 PM Fighting the best will make any of the Americans competing a star.
A star to who? Maybe people posting on a boxing forum, but a star to me is someone who is recognized globally a la Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Which is a good example of the point I'm trying to make.
Floyd was easily the best fighter in all of boxing, before the De la Hoya fight. But was he a star ?
Hell no. If you walked down a random street and asked who he was, maybe 3could answer that for you.
Fast forward to after the Oscar fight, and he's a household name.
Dirrell and Ward both have fan friendly personalities as does Taylor (that doesn't matter though because he won't win), and Ward is already building himself a nice hometown fan base in the Bay Area.
Right, but friendly personalites alone will not make you a star. There is a certain charisma you have to have. It can't be taught, you either have it or you don't. Being a great boxer doesn't change that either.
Pacquiao's audience for his fights has been limited to less than 5 million.
Where did you pull this figure from ?
When Pacquiao fights, please believe that the entire country (or at least those with access to a television) of the Philippines is watching, and its a country of 96 million people.
Not to mention all of his fans elsewhere, and especially here in the US.
With the momentum from over a year of the best fighting the best on Showtime, and with the semifinals being on network tv, the finals on CBS will get over 10 million viewers.
Even if Abraham wins, he has the ingredients to become a superstar in the sports world. He's working terribly hard on his English and it has improved so much, and he always goes for the KO.
I have to disagree. I don't think any of the fighters, minus maybe the two young guys in Dirrell and Ward, have that star quality as far as being a superstar, outside of boxing. That's what I was referring to.
A star within your sport is great, but to be recognized outside of it is a totally different animal.
Elemental Fist 08-03-2009, 02:57 PM UFC/MMA is for *****es.
MMA fanboys say the same thing about boxing and I'll tell you what I tell them, you're just a dumbass blind loyalist fanboy.
Lucky Charms 08-03-2009, 04:21 PM A star to who? Maybe people posting on a boxing forum, but a star to me is someone who is recognized globally a la Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Which is a good example of the point I'm trying to make.
Floyd was easily the best fighter in all of boxing, before the De la Hoya fight. But was he a star ?
Hell no. If you walked down a random street and asked who he was, maybe 3could answer that for you.
Fast forward to after the Oscar fight, and he's a household name.
Right, but friendly personalites alone will not make you a star. There is a certain charisma you have to have. It can't be taught, you either have it or you don't. Being a great boxer doesn't change that either.
Where did you pull this figure from ?
When Pacquiao fights, please believe that the entire country (or at least those with access to a television) of the Philippines is watching, and its a country of 96 million people.
Not to mention all of his fans elsewhere, and especially here in the US.
I have to disagree. I don't think any of the fighters, minus maybe the two young guys in Dirrell and Ward, have that star quality as far as being a superstar, outside of boxing. That's what I was referring to.
A star within your sport is great, but to be recognized outside of it is a totally different animal.
Dirrell and Ward are the two people I'm talking about who can become big stars, and that's just what you said. And the figure for viewers of Paquiao's fights was a rough estimate from the US alone. I realize he's a star in Asia.
Globally all of these fighters will get recognition. It's on free tv in Germany and Denmark. It's being shown on Sky Sports in the UK. Canada, China, Mexico, and other countries will show it. And the only reason Floyd is a name in the US is because so many people ordered the Oscar fight, TO SEE OSCAR. Now he's just recognizable from that and not so much because he has fans. More people will see the finals of the Super Six on CBS than watched De La Hoya vs Mayweather and Hatton vs Mayweather COMBINED.
BOLLOCKS 08-03-2009, 04:53 PM Lol gun to a known fist fight, thats a ***** move.
Nothing is lower than a dry humping UFC/MMA fighter.
MOREBASS 08-03-2009, 06:23 PM Nothing is lower than a dry humping UFC/MMA fighter.
Shut your adolecent ass up.
Have your balls even dropped yet ?
I doubt you'd be willing to, but why don't you walk into your local MMA gym, and see if someone doesn't knock your yellow teeth out for talking like that in real life.
I know, I know. You feel safe behind the keyboard. But really, quit being a ***. If you don't like MMA, why post in here ? Do you really want the attention of other males that bad ?
BOLLOCKS 08-03-2009, 06:39 PM Shut your adolecent ass up.
Have your balls even dropped yet ?
I doubt you'd be willing to, but why don't you walk into your local MMA gym, and see if someone doesn't knock your yellow teeth out for talking like that in real life.
I know, I know. You feel safe behind the keyboard. But really, quit being a ***. If you don't like MMA, why post in here ? Do you really want the attention of other males that bad ?
Why **** would I want to go to a gay ass MMA gym?
MOREBASS 08-03-2009, 08:03 PM Why **** would I want to go to a gay ass MMA gym?
Your right, you wouldn't.
But you coming in here talking about how MMA is gay, and all this other bull**** just shows that you're a *** who like attention from other male members on the internet.
Miklo Velka 08-04-2009, 06:15 AM Why **** would I want to go to a gay ass MMA gym?
ORALE Vato, i agree with you 100%. its great to see other vatos who hate that sport
Nothing is lower than a dry humping UFC/MMA fighter.
You are trashing all man training in grappling and ground arts ie Judo, BJJ, wrestling, MMA etc...
Ok let me guess.... you would say tha a boxer will beat the **** out if any MMA fighter in a FIGHT right??
Phenomkidd 08-04-2009, 01:32 PM Why **** would I want to go to a gay ass MMA gym?
You shouldn't, you'd probably cry when you start getting beat up :bottle:.
them_apples 08-04-2009, 03:32 PM Your right, you wouldn't.
But you coming in here talking about how MMA is gay, and all this other bull**** just shows that you're a *** who like attention from other male members on the internet.
I do check into my local MMA gym once in a while..I do't get dropped or wooped. most of the kids there are just white males who got beat up at my boxing gym and decided to opt for MMA. I know the trainer there is good (he's a young guy) but most of the other noobs at the MMA gyms I've seen are just kids who want to be tough.
GroundSt.Pound 08-04-2009, 03:47 PM I do check into my local MMA gym once in a while..I do't get dropped or wooped. most of the kids there are just white males who got beat up at my boxing gym and decided to opt for MMA. I know the trainer there is good (he's a young guy) but most of the other noobs at the MMA gyms I've seen are just kids who want to be tough.
I'm finding that hard to believe. Just another attempt to take a shot at MMA and it's fighters, eh?
Elemental Fist 08-04-2009, 03:47 PM Nothing is lower than a dry humping UFC/MMA fighter.
You're sick, you know that?
I guess you hate amateur wrestling and Judo as well.
You fanboys are a disgrace to any fanbase. You guys really spoil everything with your blind elitist attitude.
There is no war between MMA and Boxing except PPV wise other than that it's like saying if a basketball player would beat a baseball player.
Kakutogi-Gumi 08-04-2009, 07:38 PM Why **** would I want to go to a gay ass MMA gym?
To further your ignorance and McDojoism by staining their mats with your blood and tears?
Just a guess.
Phenomkidd 08-04-2009, 07:41 PM Hmm, I like that theory, green K sent.
vinnie7731 08-04-2009, 08:33 PM Why **** would I want to go to a gay ass MMA gym?
ORALE Vato, i agree with you 100%. its great to see other vatos who hate that sport
both of you have not made one valid argument or have said one thing that was even close to intelligent. you did show how ignorant you are.
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