Jamie Dennelly
07-31-2009, 04:28 PM
you just got fanny licked >: )
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View Full Version : Tyson vs Frazier? Jamie Dennelly 07-31-2009, 04:28 PM you just got fanny licked >: ) Obama 07-31-2009, 05:09 PM Tyson within 3. Tyson is just too powerful, and Frazier didn't have a back up game plan for guys that punched like trucks and could take his punches. You could site Jerry Quarry, but Tyson is sooooooo much better than Quarry, and would be harder to hit clean. Spambo boy 07-31-2009, 05:10 PM Frazier. Not even close. Dynamite Kid 07-31-2009, 05:15 PM Tyson would HAVE to knock Frazier out because Frazier would steam roll him if he got past 5 rounds, you think Holyfield was able to take his heart wait till Frazier starts kicking his door down. princemanspoper 07-31-2009, 05:19 PM The fight would never have taken place,frazier would have avoided Tyson just like he avoided every other big puncher of his era,fraziers chin simply could not withstand real heavyweight power and you could bet his chin would never have tested that kind of explosive power that tyson possessed either,Tyson would blitz him out inside of four rounds mickey malone 07-31-2009, 05:27 PM Lets say Ali was Tyson, I think it would be Frazier who took the advantage in a trilogy.. Possibly 1 late KO each, with JF winning the rubber match by DC.. It'd be close, whatever happened.. I'd go for Frazier on heart.. Both have similar styles, but Tyson is faster, Frazier has the better hooks & timing, Tyson the uppercuts & jabs.. It's a hard match up, but the only time I'd edge towards Tyson would be 85-88.. On the whole though, Frazier had a better resume.. Obama 07-31-2009, 05:29 PM The fight would never have taken place,frazier would have avoided Tyson just like he avoided every other big puncher of his era,fraziers chin simply could not withstand real heavyweight power and you could bet his chin would never have tested that kind of explosive power that tyson possessed either,Tyson would blitz him out inside of four rounds He fought Foreman and Quarry...he didn't avoid all of them. I agree with the synopsis tho. Also, if you actually asked Frazier who'd win this fight, he'd tell you Tyson. He holds a high opinion of Tyson. ironalex 07-31-2009, 05:29 PM Tyson would beat that ass, just like my man George did poet682006 07-31-2009, 08:44 PM He fought Foreman and Quarry...he didn't avoid all of them. I agree with the synopsis tho. Also, if you actually asked Frazier who'd win this fight, he'd tell you Tyson. He holds a high opinion of Tyson. Considering that in the early '90s Frazier penned an article for Ring Magazine describing exactly why he would BEAT Tyson I find that once again you're speaking of that which you are clueless. Poet Mersey 07-31-2009, 08:57 PM Both have similar styles, IMO Frazier did it better. He possessed the better left hook, 100x more heart and had slightly longer reach. I see Frazier winning this by KO anytime after round 6. Even if Frazier was knocked down, he'd get back up and give it all he had. If Tyson goes down I see him losing heart and giving up. Shiranui 07-31-2009, 09:11 PM Hard fight to predict, both would go right at each other. I think it can be said that Tyson had the better chin and power. I would say either Tyson stops Frazier within 5-6 rounds or loses a decision. Obama 07-31-2009, 09:37 PM Considering that in the early '90s Frazier penned an article for Ring Magazine describing exactly why he would BEAT Tyson I find that once again you're speaking of that which you are clueless. Poet He flip flopped after Tyson fell off. As did most people. The rational ones came back around after they realized Tyson simply wasn't the same fighter after he got rid of Rooney. them_apples 08-01-2009, 12:00 AM I'd give Frazier a good shot, I don't think Frazier would actually hurt Mike, because they would both be ducking and slipping so much, much like the Mathis Jr fight. I'd give it to Tyson by UD or possible KO. Frazier always got up even from the bigger punches and Tysons 6 round fade is overrated, he could go the distance. If it did go the distance Frazier would probably take the last few rounds based on activity, but it wouldn't be enough IMO for him to win. If he get's put down there is also a big chance of Tyson finishing him since he's quite good at that. sonnyboyx2 08-01-2009, 03:10 AM The fight would never have taken place,frazier would have avoided Tyson just like he avoided every other big puncher of his era,fraziers chin simply could not withstand real heavyweight power and you could bet his chin would never have tested that kind of explosive power that tyson possessed either,Tyson would blitz him out inside of four rounds since when did Frazier have a weak chin? sonnyboyx2 08-01-2009, 03:15 AM Tyson within 3. Tyson is just too powerful, and Frazier didn't have a back up game plan for guys that punched like trucks and could take his punches. You could site Jerry Quarry, but Tyson is sooooooo much better than Quarry, and would be harder to hit clean. so his 2 wins over Oscar Bonavena who could punch like a truck and take anyones punches was without a game plan? Bonavena was an incredible rugged, tough two fisted brawler who would be champion if fighting today.. (sorry my mistake, Valuev and Co are to tall and big for him) Sugarj 08-01-2009, 12:24 PM Bonavena was alright, he would have a good chance againt Valuev and a punchers chance against Wlad. I think Vitali would beat him though. Back on topic, I do favour Tyson over Frazier, but like Mickey.....only the peak Tyson of the mid to late 80s. I just feel that Tyson, whilst sharing similar physical dimensions to Joe was simply much faster and had a more versatile range of punches. Joe's right was sorely underused and uppercuts were rare. I forget who said it but I too think that Tyson's distance stamina wasn't at all bad in the 80s, I think that Tyson either wins a tough decision or has a good chance to stop Frazier also, Tyson's uppercut could be key. Obama 08-01-2009, 01:41 PM so his 2 wins over Oscar Bonavena who could punch like a truck and take anyones punches was without a game plan? Bonavena was an incredible rugged, tough two fisted brawler who would be champion if fighting today.. (sorry my mistake, Valuev and Co are to tall and big for him) Keep in mind, Bonavena beat Frazier's ass in the first fight. In modern scoring Frazier loses that fight. Not to mention Bonavena is even far worse than Quarry. Tyson is fathoms beyond Ringo. bojangles1987 08-01-2009, 02:39 PM Frazier has the heart and stamina to withstand Tyson early and had great head movement. He would get his ass kicked for the first 5 rounds and then just punish Tyson brutally on route to a 11th or 12th round KO or TKO. princemanspoper 08-01-2009, 02:52 PM since when did Frazier have a weak chin? Anytime he fought a legitimate heavyweight puncher GJC 08-01-2009, 03:20 PM since when did Frazier have a weak chin? Think this fallacy is from people who have only ever seen him against Foreman. People seem to forget only 2 men ever beat him, both would appear in most peoples top 10 atg Heavys so he can't have been that bad. princemanspoper 08-01-2009, 03:51 PM Or perhaps it comes from an entire career's worth of avoiding big punchers who knows JmtRyan 08-01-2009, 04:22 PM Tyson easily, on his day he beats most. them_apples 08-01-2009, 04:29 PM The problem with this match up is that they both are going to be ducking hooks left and right, Tyson is the bigger and stronger man, and he's the only guy with an uppercut. It makes it difficult for Frazier biggest asset, his stamina, to even come into play if he's not even landing. We saw Buster Mathis jr try a Frazier on Tyson and he missed with just about every punch and got nailed with an uppercut. boxingbuff 08-01-2009, 08:51 PM Frazier was a slow starter,where Tyson started very fast. Tyson by 1st or 2nd round KO. Caesar 08-02-2009, 05:27 AM the were both great punchers and had the same power, but i think frazier would win this fight, because his chin is better then mike's is, the fight would end with a tko in a late round Sugarj 08-02-2009, 06:26 PM I'm not convinced Frazier's chin was better than Mike's. Between 1985 and when Mike fought Lennox in what 2001/2002 Mike had been down just twice, one brutal multi punch KO from Buster Douglas and one glancing left hook from Holyfield in 45 odd fights! Very rarely staggered and absorbed some horrendous blows without even blinking in anything like his prime! Whereas Frazier had been knocked down ten times or so between 1965 and 1976. These included the Bonavena knockdowns, and all eight or so Foreman knockdowns. Not to mention the comparatively light punching Ali staggering him in fights 2 and 3. All this in only 30 odd fights! No comparison on the chin front for me. Unknown Champ 08-02-2009, 06:54 PM Big George ko's both the same night, real talk lol |