Remember Illmatic
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1. Genesis
2. N.Y. State of Mind
3. Life's a *****
4. World Is Yours
5. Halftime
6. Memory Lane (Sittin' in da Park)
7. One Love
8. One Time 4 Your Mind
9. Represent
10. It Ain't Hard to Tell

That in my opinion could be the greatest rap album ever, every song was great and the flow and lyrics were on another level.

What do you think is the all time greatest rap album?

yeah it is prob the greatest ever. lots of classics to choose from though

i'm from the west coast... so i gotta say.. the chronic... or all eyes on me...

It's one of them...it's all a matter of opinion. I'd say that Enter the 36 Chambers is about the same quality as Illmatic. Both were groundbreaking for their time.

I'd say that Common's Resurrection was a better album than Illmatic and is the best ever. I Used to Love H.E.R. is the perfect rap song IMO. Commons flow and delivery are on point, it tells a very intricate story with a great twist at the end, and the beat is silk. Of course this is all just my opinion.

only built for cuban linx should aslo be considered. raekwon really brought it with that one. my personal fav is scarface the diary, i thought face was excellent on that one

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The greatest album was released by the greatest rapper..

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Its top 5 easy

My vote for all time #1 goes to...

Dr Dre

"The Chronic"

completly revolutionized Hip-Hop

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Its top 5 easy
My vote for all time #1 goes to...
Dr Dre
"The Chronic"
completly revolutionized Hip-Hop

I'm in total agreement, revolutionized everything.

Cool story, I remember when my brother brought that home, we're in the living room lisening to it... pops walks in, stands there for a minute. Walks over and just smashes the stereo, and it was HIS stereo!

Wow - looking at the thread title, I was going to say that Illmatic was right there along with BIG's Ready to Die, Wu-Tang's Enter The Wu-Tang, and Dr. Dre's The Chronic, and already all of them have been mentioned.

Honorable mention to Outkast's Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik and E-40 In a Major Way

A couple other favorites:

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i disagree with The Chronic revolutionizing anything. first off, it wasn't hip hop- it was gangster rap. 2nd, besides replacing ren & eazy with snoop, it offered nothing new that dre hadn't done with NWA all along. all it did was introduce the mainstream into accepting gangster rap.

agree on illmatic being one of the greatest. the cool thing about this one is the influence that his dad brings on the album.


so here's my picks on great rap albums.

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i was gonna put Raisin Hell from RUN DMC but these crackhead settings limit yer image amounts.

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Beastie Boys - "Licensed to Ill" is an all time great album.

Beastie Boys - "Licensed to Ill" is an all time great album.


So true. A lot of people like Paul's Boutique more but License to Ill was always my favorite Beastie album.

i disagree with The Chronic revolutionizing anything. first off, it wasn't hip hop- it was gangster rap.

How wasn't it hip hop? Rap is rap no matter what the subject matter and all rap is part of hip hop. Illmatic was definitely one of the best.

Some of my all time favorites are

The Diary and Untouchable by Scarface
Don't Give A Damn and Next Episode by Street Military(local Houston group)
Picture This by Do Or Die
G's Til We Die by Gang Society(local Houston group)
It's Dark And Hell Is Hot by DMX
A Rough Z'aggin Bible by Bam(local Houston rapper)

what is everybody listening to right now? i just got cormega's the testament and iam downloading beanie sigels b.coming advance right now. the testament is cormega's debut that was to be released a while ago but def jam had it on the shelves until recently when they finally handed it over to cormega.it is good to id say 4/5 mics

This might garner some flak, but it's all a matter of opinion.

I think AZ is just as good as Nas now. AZ doesn't have one mediocre album out and Doe or Die should widely be viewed as AZ's answer to Illmatic...both were classics. I thought Nastradamus was average at best. AZ's smooth, triple cadence flow sounds natural and unforced unlike Nas who sometimes sounds like he's trying to catch up with the beat. Nas is a better lyricist and may be a bit better in the storytelling department (prime example Rewind). As far as longevity goes, AZ was kind of introduced into the game by Nas, but he's certainly been around for a long time and has a nice body of work. Doe or Die, Pieces of a Man, 9 Lives, S.O.S.A., Aziatic, and now Final Call. I think Nas has more emotion on some of his tracks and really comes off like his songs effect him...AZ can sometimes sound uninspired by his song. I like AZ's delivery more and he can spit harder verses with more ease. Both are equally clever. Add to all of this that Nas has had the benefit of better, more consistent production and love in the public eye, I think AZ is certainly on his level at this point.

Songs to peep by AZ:

Gimme Yours
Wanna Be There
Love Me
Magic Hour...

And my favorite and IMO the best song between the 2 of them, Ho Happy Jackie off his first album Doe or Die.

what is everybody listening to right now? i just got cormega's the testament and iam downloading beanie sigels b.coming advance right now. the testament is cormega's debut that was to be released a while ago but def jam had it on the shelves until recently when they finally handed it over to cormega.it is good to id say 4/5 mics


I'm listening to Camp Lo's Uptown Saturday Night. I still haven't heard that new Mega yet Fix. I thought he JUST dropped an album before this one? Legal Hustle maybe? He's puttin in work or something.

Doe Or Die was tight but I haven't really been into AZ that much since that album came out. Problems was nice song though. The only albums I really like by Nas are Illmatic, I am and Stillmatic the others have some songs I like but nothing special about them. I heard Street Disciple and it wasn't all that great to me but I only heard it once.

In my personal opinion, illmatic was not a revolutionary or inspiring album in any way.


Dont misunderstand me, if theres an album i've listened to more, and enjoyed more than illmatic i cant think what it is, but the album was in some ways very limited. It didnt really, in terms of production or mic skills, bring anything new or innovative to the table. It simply took what others had tdone in the past, and did it ever so slightly better.

IMO, when looking for real hip hop classics (as with all music genres), you should look for something that really changed the way people looked at music, and the way future acts would perform (illmatic in NO way fits into thins catagory). I prefer things like '36 chambers,' '3 feet high and rising' 'low end theory' and 'it takes a nation of millions'



Sorry for ranting, illmatic disscusion always gets me started

This might garner some flak, but it's all a matter of opinion.

I think AZ is just as good as Nas now. AZ doesn't have one mediocre album out and Doe or Die should widely be viewed as AZ's answer to Illmatic...both were classics. I thought Nastradamus was average at best. AZ's smooth, triple cadence flow sounds natural and unforced unlike Nas who sometimes sounds like he's trying to catch up with the beat. Nas is a better lyricist and may be a bit better in the storytelling department (prime example Rewind). As far as longevity goes, AZ was kind of introduced into the game by Nas, but he's certainly been around for a long time and has a nice body of work. Doe or Die, Pieces of a Man, 9 Lives, S.O.S.A., Aziatic, and now Final Call. I think Nas has more emotion on some of his tracks and really comes off like his songs effect him...AZ can sometimes sound uninspired by his song. I like AZ's delivery more and he can spit harder verses with more ease. Both are equally clever. Add to all of this that Nas has had the benefit of better, more consistent production and love in the public eye, I think AZ is certainly on his level at this point.

Songs to peep by AZ:

Gimme Yours
Wanna Be There
Love Me
Magic Hour...

And my favorite and IMO the best song between the 2 of them, Ho Happy Jackie off his first album Doe or Die.


i just just got final call and it was pretty good. i dont know if id say AZ is better than nas but he is on the same level. ever since lifes a ***** i liked az.

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How wasn't it hip hop? Rap is rap no matter what the subject matter and all rap is part of hip hop.

all rap is part of hip hop but hip hop is way more than just rap. rap is simply flowin to a particular to beat on a particular subject/s. hip hop incorporates more of a culture and actually combines the same musical elements that make great blues, jazz, gospel, and rock.

rap is dre, eminem, too short, dmx, etc. hip hop is fugees, digable planets, black eyed peas, pharcyde. artists like nas, tupac, rakim, and beastie boys are masters at combining both styles.

but rappin about blunts, *****es, and guns throughout an entire album isn't hip.

all rap is part of hip hop but hip hop is way more than just rap. rap is simply flowin to a particular to beat on a particular subject/s. hip hop incorporates more of a culture and actually combines the same musical elements that make great blues, jazz, gospel, and rock.

rap is dre, eminem, too short, dmx, etc. hip hop is fugees, digable planets, black eyed peas, pharcyde. artists like nas, tupac, rakim, and beastie boys are masters at combining both styles.

but rappin about blunts, *****es, and guns throughout an entire album isn't hip.

Hip hop is not a style of rap it's the culture. All the people you named are all rappers. You start off saying all rap is part of hip hop but then say Dre, Too Short and Dmx are not hip hop. That don't make any sense. Hip hop is the four elements rapping or mcing, djing, writing and breaking.

Eminem is a lyrical genuis... In a rap battle I would never, ever bet against him..

hip hop is the culture. hip hop music is the voice of the culture. everyone i mentioned raps but not all of them are just simply rappers. IMO, hip hop is a different element of rap with a deeper cultural aspect.

Eminem is a lyrical genuis... In a rap battle I would never, ever bet against him..

i look at eminem as kobe. and rakim as michael jordon.

IMO, hip hop is a different element of rap with a deeper cultural aspect.

Rap is an element of Hip Hop. There are some rappers who stay true to the art of mcing, there are rappers who rap about materialistic things, and then there are rappers who rap more about the things that are going on in the world. At the end of the day it's still all apart of the Hip Hop culture.

i look at eminem as kobe. and rakim as michael jordon.

i look at eminem as vin baker- good when he started but the quality has went downhill but still makes a ton of money.

rakim as micheal jordan is a pretty good comparison but iam still waiting on rakim's comeback

The Best Rap Albums




Snoop Dog - Doggystyle

2pac - All Eyes on Me

NWA- Straight Outta Compton

Ice Cube - Death Certificate

Dr. Dre - The Chronic

Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet

Tone Loc - Loc-ed after Dark

Beastie Boys - Pauls Boutique <---- This one is my fav of the bunch.

Nas - Illmatic

Wu Tang Clan - Wu Tang Forever

Eazy E - Eazy duz it

DMX - It's Dark and Hell is Hot

Run DMC - Raising Hell

i look at eminem as vin baker- good when he started but the quality has went downhill but still makes a ton of money.

rakim as micheal jordan is a pretty good comparison but iam still waiting on rakim's comeback

Rakim is on Aftermath right now, he signed in 02 or 03, still aint did ****...

Rakim is on Aftermath right now, he signed in 02 or 03, still aint did ****...

He's not on Aftermath anymore. Actually alot of people that was with Aftermath isn't there anymore.

Busta just signed...

illmatic was alright but not as dope as his second album...enter the wu is a classic....so is scarface the diary....their could not be a best album to many classics....brotha lynch season of the sicc is lyrically ****ting on illmatic.....
but best album as far as lyrics....beats....and concept
canibus rip the jacker

brotha lynch season of the sicc is lyrically ****ting on illmatic.....


You gotta be from Cali, Brotha Lynch is ****in great...

You better pray
When you see me put that nine up in that *****, ho
**** it back slow
Rock it back and forth, wait for the nut, then let my trigger go
Boom!
*****-guts all over the room

Brotha Lynch is to rap like Gwar is to metal