View Full Version : UFC 103 "Tito and Vitor are back"


Sn1
07-28-2009, 01:30 PM
Main Card
Light Heavyweight bout: Tito Ortiz vs. Rich Franklin
Light Heavyweight bout: Dan Henderson vs. Vitor Belfort
Welterweight bout: Mike Swick vs. Martin Kampmann
Welterweight bout: Josh Koscheck vs. Frank Trigg
Lightweight bout: Efrain Escudero vs.Cole Miller
Lightweight bout: Tyson Griffin vs. Hermes Franca

Preliminary card
Middleweight bout: Drew McFedries vs. Tomasz Drwal

Other announced matchups

Heavyweight bout: Mirko Filipović vs. Junior dos Santos
Lightweight bout: Sean Sherk vs. Gleison Tibau
Lightweight bout: Rafael dos Anjos vs.Rob Emerson
Light Heavyweight bout: Eliot Marshall vs. Jason Brilzyes theres alot of rumours surrounding this card. but **** me, if they pull it off, wow.

ortiz vs franklin cud be abit boring if they cancel each other out, but i think both fighters will bring there A game and maybe even exchange a few shots lol.

unlike the belfort return fight against dan henderson. u know those guys are gonna wage war. someone is going home on a stretcher.

kampmann vs swick, too guys pushing for a title shot at a lower weightclass.

koscheck vs trigg, koscheck will want to comeback from his embarassing loss and get back oncourse for a title shot and trigg is trigg lol

finally see efrain escudero fight in the ufc. and the franca vs griffin fight could be a real banger provided hermes trains properly. crocop again, sean sherk dominating gleison "boring as hell" tibau and another glimpe at prospect, eliot marshall.

WHAT A CARD!!!!!

edit: yes the official UFC site has the swick fight as main event.
no mention of henderson, ortiz, belfort or frankilin
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=eventDetail.FightCard&eid=2277

Nodogoshi
07-28-2009, 01:51 PM
Much much better than Franklin-Henderson2

Sn1
07-28-2009, 01:56 PM
Much much better than Franklin-Henderson2
definately.

franklins style is effective but it can make a fight kinda boring.
imagine saying boring and wandalei silva in the same sentence.

Rocky...
07-28-2009, 06:25 PM
Hope this is true, be some card:D

Belfort will destory hendo :boxing:

Nodogoshi
07-28-2009, 06:35 PM
Hope this is true, be some card:D

Belfort will destory hendo :boxing:
I got 100k on Henderson if you want it.

LA BAD BOY
07-28-2009, 06:41 PM
Much much better than Franklin-Henderson2

I agree but anyway Henderson did dominate Belfort.

LA BAD BOY
07-28-2009, 06:43 PM
Tito Ortiz is a punk but he will smash Franklin!

Rocky...
07-28-2009, 07:00 PM
I got 100k on Henderson if you want it.

Yeah man your on :fing02:

vinnie7731
07-28-2009, 08:43 PM
looks like a good fight card. looking forward to it.

Nodogoshi
07-28-2009, 09:57 PM
Yeah man your on :fing02:
Alright I'll sig it.

Move BRICKS™
07-28-2009, 10:05 PM
I hope it happens. UFC 108 is Fedor vs Lesnar according to Wikipedia.

skullduggery
07-28-2009, 11:26 PM
Hope this is true, be some card:D

Belfort will destory hendo :boxing:
didnt hendo already beat him at pride 30 or some ****?

Rocky...
07-29-2009, 03:50 PM
didnt hendo already beat him at pride 30 or some ****?

Yeah was pride 32, that was years ago tho, revenge will be sweet :boxing:

JoeKickAss
07-29-2009, 04:03 PM
I hope it happens. UFC 108 is Fedor vs Lesnar according to Wikipedia.

Yeah wikipedia a great reliable source.....

Nodogoshi
07-29-2009, 04:27 PM
Yeah wikipedia a great reliable source.....
It's not reliable, but is often a good resource for accessing the rumor mill.

$ LegenD $
07-29-2009, 04:45 PM
i hope it gets finalised so i can get my tickets...im hesitant to go with franklin vs. hendo 2 i would rather watch boxing p4p fight that night but if tito is there im there.....WAR ORTIZ!!

JoeKickAss
07-29-2009, 08:24 PM
It's not reliable, but is often a good resource for accessing the rumor mill.

Look up the word sarcasm

Nodogoshi
07-29-2009, 08:41 PM
Look up the word sarcasm
I was just making a point, because people often bash wikipedia. Like I said, it is definitely no reliable source, but a good source for rumors non the less, which can be interesting.

Naps
07-29-2009, 09:15 PM
This card looks like a work of fiction to me.

Also if Franklin had to fight Tito it wouldn't be fair, in the interests of fairness and competition he should be fighting Hendo for a shot at Silva. I know a lot will say it's a waste of time him against Anderson again, but the best should fight the champ, and the winner of Franklin Hendo is the #1 contender I'm afraid.

Nodogoshi
07-29-2009, 10:48 PM
This card looks like a work of fiction to me.

Also if Franklin had to fight Tito it wouldn't be fair, in the interests of fairness and competition he should be fighting Hendo for a shot at Silva. I know a lot will say it's a waste of time him against Anderson again, but the best should fight the champ, and the winner of Franklin Hendo is the #1 contender I'm afraid.
I don't agree with your fairness statement. In my opinion, fights which are percieved as meaningfull and likely exciting to the fans should take precedent when it comes to matchmaking.

Phenomkidd
07-30-2009, 01:22 AM
Belfort via TKO or KO
Tito might take home the W depending on how hard he trains.

skullduggery
07-30-2009, 02:31 AM
vitor doesnt stand a chance against silva.... and who is tito gonna beat in the lhw division? this is pointless... and goes to show how the ufc has peeked, and is starting to fall...... the chamos are too dominant, and there are few up and coming stars.....

Phenomkidd
07-30-2009, 02:44 AM
vitor doesnt stand a chance against silva.... and who is tito gonna beat in the lhw division? this is pointless... and goes to show how the ufc has peeked, and is starting to fall...... the chamos are too dominant, and there are few up and coming stars.....

Vitor has some of the best hands in MMA and he's a blackbelt in Gracie JJ. He definitely stands a chance if he comes in prepared. Better chance than Griffin IMO.

skullduggery
07-30-2009, 03:13 AM
Vitor has some of the best hands in MMA and he's a blackbelt in Gracie JJ. He definitely stands a chance if he comes in prepared. Better chance than Griffin IMO.
dude not at 185....... griffin doesnt stand a chance at 185 lol..... its the size that helps griffin..... vitor wont make it outta the second round......

Phenomkidd
07-30-2009, 03:43 AM
dude not at 185....... griffin doesnt stand a chance at 185 lol..... its the size that helps griffin..... vitor wont make it outta the second round......

Griffin at 205 is more likely to lose to Silva than Vitor at 185. Vitor has been great fighter who "lost it" a lil and now it would seem he's coming back. Vitor is capable of winning no doubt. The major factors that will play into this is how is Silva gonna do against Griffin, win but lackluster or win but return to form?

Sn1
08-01-2009, 10:03 AM
Griffin at 205 is more likely to lose to Silva than Vitor at 185. Vitor has been great fighter who "lost it" a lil and now it would seem he's coming back. Vitor is capable of winning no doubt. The major factors that will play into this is how is Silva gonna do against Griffin, win but lackluster or win but return to form?if it isnt a return to form for silva he could lose this fight.

hes not gonna have anything like the same sort of fights he did against cote and
leites. we all know griffin is vulnerable and reacts terribly when caught flush, but
hes also a really solid tactician, hes massive compared to silva and he's as hungry as ever i imagine.

hes got a chance for sure, and not just a punchers chance. hes got good submissions too.

Nodogoshi
08-01-2009, 03:19 PM
if it isnt a return to form for silva he could lose this fight.

hes not gonna have anything like the same sort of fights he did against cote and
leites. we all know griffin is vulnerable and reacts terribly when caught flush, but
hes also a really solid tactician, hes massive compared to silva and he's as hungry as ever i imagine.

hes got a chance for sure, and not just a punchers chance. hes got good submissions too.
I don't think Silva showed a lack of form in the Cote and Leites fights. He should a lack of willingness to engage against tactical counterstrikers.

Forest may be somewhat tactical, but he will engage. This is why they made the fight, so that Silva can brutally KO Griffin, and then everyone can go back to believing Silva is a hammerfisted knockout artist.

Also Silva is a big MW.

Phenomkidd
08-01-2009, 03:22 PM
Since when is Leites a tactical counter-striker? When I say return to form I mean return KTFO people.

Nodogoshi
08-01-2009, 03:39 PM
Since when is Leites a tactical counter-striker? When I say return to form I mean return KTFO people.
I'm not familiar with his other fights, but that was the way he fought, on the feet. He sat back, and refused to engage.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Forest pursues a similar strategy at this point, actually. Perhaps Cote can be credited for exposing this aspect of Silva's game. Simply, he does not like to take risks in order to engage.

This also reminds me of the strategy which Rashad Evans unsuccessfully employed against Machida. Evans was sitting back and trying to counter Machida, generally the counterstriker himself, when Machida came in. Machida in turn utilized his kicks, including some devastating strikes to the body, in order to punish Rashad without giving up range, forcing Rashad to engage, and systematically knocked him out.

This is just how I saw the fights go down. I rarely re-watch the events, and I wouldn't re-watch Silva-Cote or Silva-Leites if you paid me to lol.

Sn1
08-01-2009, 03:45 PM
I don't think Silva showed a lack of form in the Cote and Leites fights. He should a lack of willingness to engage against tactical counterstrikers.

Forest may be somewhat tactical, but he will engage. This is why they made the fight, so that Silva can brutally KO Griffin, and then everyone can go back to believing Silva is a hammerfisted knockout artist.

Also Silva is a big MW.silva is a big middleweight but griffin is a massive LHW.

you make good points and we all know griffin is meant to be the sacrificial lamb.
but i still think he has the ability to win if silva isnt on top form.

big IF tho

Nodogoshi
08-01-2009, 03:50 PM
silva is a big middleweight but griffin is a massive LHW.

you make good points and we all know griffin is meant to be the sacrificial lamb.
but i still think he has the ability to win if silva isnt on top form.

big IF tho
Forest has won with his back against the wall before, so it would be foolish to count him out. Still, I see the gulf in skill being too much for Forest to overcome.