Okay, there's a battle raging on this forum about whether Hopkins was right to notch up his 20th defence by runnin... er, "boxing", and those who wanted a boxing match where he was more involved.

But let's count numbers here, to give us an indication of the silent majority. How did you rate Hopkins's performance last night?

Okay, there's a battle raging on this forum about whether Hopkins was right to notch up his 20th defence by runnin... er, "boxing", and those who wanted a boxing match where he was more involved.

But let's count numbers here, to give us an indication of the silent majority. How did you rate Hopkins's performance last night?


Silent majority? you wanna count numbers....count the ****ing punch stats.

Silent majority? you wanna count numbers....count the ****ing punch stats.An average of 16 (pot shot) punches per round? Is that good?

Eastman is a sack of **** like most fighters from his country.... "Would you like some tea?':****you:

It's better to hit one time and not get hit, then hit 10 times and get hit 9... Basic boxing logistic

It's better to hit one time and not get hit, then hit 10 times and get hit 9... Basic boxing logisticYeah, but there's a difference between hitting and not getting hit and "not getting hit and... not bothering to hit either."

I reckon if Nard could have taken a motorbike in there with him he would have done.

In one RD, 3 punchs landed, by both fighters, 5 RDS down, it was horrible, than Hopkins woke up took more of a risk, still was boring as hell, but an easy win, easy oppennt, **** load of cerdit for Hopkins :rolleyes: .
I picked - It was okay, but I would have preferred him to get more involved

It still bugs me the way people talk about what a great contender DLH was when he was treated with kid gloves and then given a smack down. But Hop meets someone who was bigger and stronger who can effortlessly take it for 12 rounds and he's a bum... huh?

I wish Howard had pressed harder though, for Nuff Tump.

All the Euro-**** are pissed because their *** lossed.

Let's agree on this... Mr. Nuff Tump has a chin, though, eh?

I can't stop cracking up at this stuff you've made me wear, IWatch... I'm trying to have a serious conversation here! :)

If you dont like Hopkins style DONT WATCH HIM!
If you expect him to brawl it out with you DONT FIGHT HIM!!

eastman said he didnt fight like a champion, he whooped his ass!!
Boxing ain't always about trading shots. Why has Hopkins not lost for 12 years? Because he's a smart fighter, why did Eastman lose to a "shot" Joppy, because he's ****in stupid.

B-Hop looked like he said...like a B- fighter. I've never seen him smiling and running in a fight like he did last night, plus he loose some round against a B class fighter..

I picked "girlie".

I honestly did care,though. As I said after the DLH win, Hopkins had earned the right to fight a corpse for his 20th. They could have given Duran Lipo to shed enough fat to get him down to 160, threw him in there and I would still give Hopkins his due.

Now that he's got that out of the way, I expect him to fight, though.

B-Hop looked like he said...like a B- fighter. I've never seen him smiling and running in a fight like he did last night, plus he loose some round against a B class fighter..

He looked liked a B-fighter?!?!? HE SHOWED WHY HE'S P4P KING! He came to win and he won. Peopel call it running, excuse him if he don't feel the need to use his head to absorb punches and wind up talking like Bowe.

He looked liked a B-fighter?!?!? HE SHOWED WHY HE'S P4P KING! He came to win and he won. Peopel call it running, excuse him if he don't feel the need to use his head to absorb punches and wind up talking like Bowe.


um that was hopkins grading eastman

He looked liked a B-fighter?!?!? HE SHOWED WHY HE'S P4P KING! He came to win and he won. Peopel call it running, excuse him if he don't feel the need to use his head to absorb punches and wind up talking like Bowe.

Feel free to disagree Mooks...that's how I saw him and like Nard himself said...Eastman wouldn't last 5 round against someone like Taylor or Trinidad IMO.

um that was hopkins grading eastman

Nope when Larry interview Nard after the fight he said that he gaved himself a B-, but if he had KO'ed Eastman he would have given himself an A.

Feel free to disagree Mooks...that's how I saw him and like Nard himself said...Eastman wouldn't last 5 round against someone like Taylor or Trinidad IMO.

YEah I know just disagreeing man. Your cool no harm intended.

Trinidad would inflict damage cuz he's a puncher. And Eastman's a target. Although I think Eastman has the power to hurt Tito, he'll stiull be outclassed in terms of punching. Can tehy take him out in 5? Maybe, but that doesn't men anything. You can't expect a boxer/counterpuncher to knock out a guy faster than a puncher. That's not how they operate and that's now their game. That doesn't mean they're inferior.

Nope when Larry interview Nard after the fight he said that he gaved himself a B-, but if he had KO'ed Eastman he would have given himself an A.

No, I got it on tape and just watched it. Hopkins was grading Eastman, not himself.

YA all who says Hopkins was bad musta be crazy. Hopkins completely outboxed and outsmarted his opponent while not giving a hint that he is 40 years old. Hopkins did just what he was supposed to do, which is beat his opponent in a decisive manner without hurting himself much.

I voted: It was okay, but I would have preferred him to get more involved.

How many FOY's has B-Hop been in? I think Morales, Pacquiao and Barrera are warriors...B-Hop is more of a stalker or sniper...silent, but deadly.

Hopefully B-Hop gives us some MEMORABLE fights before the year is up. I want to actually record a fight that I can watch of his and say DAMN! :O

he did what he did... he didnt care what the crowd thinks... gotta give it to him...

it was a boring fight, eastman took it to hi, but he was passive aggressive. hopkins had better ring mastery, and just did what he had to do.

You know what? I wanted Eastman to score an upset but... Hey, props to Bhop for his 20th successful title defense. He fought the smart battle. I think boxing matches arent always supposed to be a war. It's a chess game. Additional props to BHop for not letting the booing change his battle plan. It takes a good amount of self control to not let the crowd get to you. The Executioner fought an intelligent fight and I didnt know he can still dance around in circles around his opponent at 40. His victory is legit

I don't see what the big deal is, did anyone really expect Bernard to brawl with Eastman? He used the style that he always uses and it worked. If you want Gatti-Ward watch those type of figthers, Bernard Hopkins is a masterful boxer not a brawler.

Hopkins wanted defence number 20. Why take a risk? Win anyway you want, Hopkin`s is champ still and for him and his bank balance, thats perfectly fine!

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but does anyone think that **** with the late tape job on Hopkins was intentional? You know, a ploy to try to ice eastman. Maybe **** with his head a little before the fight.

The biggest fraud in boxing Bernard Hopkins he now reminds of me of Johnny Nelson, are the fans sure he was not raped in jail judging by the running he was doing

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but does anyone think that **** with the late tape job on Hopkins was intentional? You know, a ploy to try to ice eastman. Maybe **** with his head a little before the fight.

free your mind your ass will follow- funkadelic

nice one! i haven't heard that **** in a long time.

Eastman is a sack of **** like most fighters from his country.... "Would you like some tea?':****you:

NO **** YOU DICKHEAD. Obviously havent a ****ing lcue what your on about and have a chip on your shoiulder about the brits for no good reason. NEWSFLASH ITS RACISM. :mad:

Heres a few fighters that may job your memory ignoramous.

Hatton V Kostya for the universally accepted as linear light Welter champ

Woods V Hoye IBF light heavy champ.

Brodie v Chi last year twice. brodie can come again if he drops to S-bantam (where wayne mccullough is also looking to secure a rematch with larios)

Harrison - WBO feather champ

Nelson - WBO cruiser champ and avoided like the plague by other champs.

David Barnes may well work his way up to meaningful shot this year and is one to watch at welterweight.

Joe Calzaghe universally accepted as super middle number one.

Junior Witter now being lined up to fight Gatti

Esham pickering European Bantam champ

Nicky Cook european feather champ.

Carl Froch up and coming prospcet with real venom in his punches at super middle.

Carl Thompson the old warrior still out there and would give any of the top ten a decent nights work at Cruiser.

Enzo Macc, agian cruiser weight with real power and look for him to emerge in the next year as a world force.

Wayne Alexander looking to secure a title shot against Daniel Santos.

why did Eastman lose to a "shot" Joppy, because he's ****in stupid.Can we just stop this BS now? The only people who think Howard has two legit. losses on his record are the three judges at the Joppy fight.

It was not a pretty win by any means but Bernard did what he had to do in order to win. Hello to all and i hope to enjoy your forums from now on

Trinidad would inflict damage cuz he's a puncher. And Eastman's a target. Although I think Eastman has the power to hurt Tito, he'll still be outclassed in terms of punching.
Eastman has some decently heavy hands and good skills. But, as you say, his wide open style makes him a target. Couple that with his overall lack of speed past the mid-rounds, that makes him a BULLSEYE against Tito. I also don't see Eastman keeping anybody on the outside, despite those gangly arms.

No, I got it on tape and just watched it. Hopkins was grading Eastman, not himself.

"I fought the fight that was best for myself," said Bernard Hopkins after defending his middleweight title for the twentieth time. "I heard a lot of cheers and some down time where everyone wanted more action. But I’m a slow starter." On Eastman claiming he ran, Hopkins stated, "If Eastman looks in the mirror someone put the welts up there. The smart man in boxing lives to see another day. I wanted to fight my fight and not Eastman’s.....I give myself a B-. A knockout would have taken me to an A." :rolleyes:

Eastman has some decently heavy hands and good skills. But, as you say, his wide open style makes him a target. Couple that with his overall lack of speed past the mid-rounds, that makes him a BULLSEYE against Tito. I also don't see Eastman keeping anybody on the outside, despite those gangly arms.That's one thing I will give Hopkins - he IS fast. The fact that he's so fast actually creates an inaccurate impression of Eastman, because I'd say Eastman's speed is above-average too. And - though he should have realised it wasn't going to work and adapted - the old "leave the left hand down low" has been a trap that he's used to great effect in the past. I didn't like the way Hopkins won, but fair play - it's Howard's only legit loss. (My God, he dished out Nuff Tump to Joppy)

It still bugs me the way people talk about what a great contender DLH was when he was treated with kid gloves and then given a smack down. But Hop meets someone who was bigger and stronger who can effortlessly take it for 12 rounds and he's a bum... huh?

I wish Howard had pressed harder though, for Nuff Tump.
I don't understand your quibble babble for the past billion posts about this topic. You state you wish Howard pressed on? Well, guess what he didn't. If he wanted to take the fight to Hopkins, HE DIDN'T. Do you really expect a 40 year old man to bring it on? If Eastman wanted to win he should've done something other than NOTHING but get hit with left hooks over and over. Maybe he should've stopped talking about knocking out Hopkins and worked on keeping his hands up.

This is the thing... people keep saying "Hey, Hopkins just ran like a girl all night... but he's forty, what did you expect?" I expect him to either box or get the f*** out - fair enough, Mr. Quibble Babble?