Nick Fury
07-27-2009, 05:04 PM
This fight would have been a war!
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View Full Version : Salvador Sanchez vs Aaron Pryor. Who wins?? Nick Fury 07-27-2009, 05:04 PM This fight would have been a war! them_apples 07-27-2009, 10:00 PM Pryor Sanchez wouldn't have properly bulked up unless he naturally grew like Roberto Duran but he seemed small framed, 140 is to high. Pryor wins a UD or could stop him at 140. Dynamite Kid 07-27-2009, 10:08 PM Pryor Sanchez wouldn't have properly bulked up unless he naturally grew like Roberto Duran but he seemed small framed, 140 is to high. Pryor wins a UD or could stop him at 140. I think i agree. If Pryor were closer to Sanchez in weight naturally i would pick Sanchez. Joey Giardello 07-27-2009, 10:13 PM Pryor Sanchez wouldn't have properly bulked up unless he naturally grew like Roberto Duran but he seemed small framed, 140 is to high. Pryor wins a UD or could stop him at 140. This is a fight that could of happend at lightweight, pryor only left lightweight cos jim watt was avoiding him, and wanted to go back downt to fight ray manchni but arguello told ray to avoid pryor, sanchez was a big feather who could had the frame to go to lightweight. I think pryor would of stopped sanchez late BOLLOCKS 07-27-2009, 10:15 PM Sanchez would school Pryor. Nick Fury 07-27-2009, 10:19 PM I think the size advantage wasn't that great. Sanchez fought at 126 but could have easily gone up to 135. If the fight takes place at 130/135. Sanchez wins a UD but if it's at 140, Pryor gets the knockout. Dynamite Kid 07-27-2009, 10:25 PM Attacking Sanchez was like walking into a propeller, he was such smooth fighter with excellent footwork and a great chin. The worst ive seen Sanchez look is against Ruben Castillo and Cowdell, but i believe he fought to the level of opposition and when he was on he was on.......Nelson, Gomez, Lopez 2x. Best ive seen Pryor look was against Gaetan Hart,Arguello 1 or possibly Leonidas Asprilla, but the worst ive seen him look was against Dujuan Johnson where it looked for a split second in that fight like he was ready to be taken out. Pryor attacked with his chin hanging up in air and attacking such an accurate puncher like Sanchez cannot be good imo, although Pryor did use angles well when attacking i must admit. Silencers 07-28-2009, 12:16 AM In real life Pryor would've just been too big and too strong for Sanchez, I think Sanchez at best would've been effective at 135 and no higher. Pound for pound wise though it's an interesting fight, I think Sanchez would play the role of counterpuncher where Pryor would be the aggressor throwing punches in bunches like he always did. Hard fight to call really, Pryor would win the early rounds but I think Sanchez would be able to find his rhythm somewhat by the middle rounds and start timing Pryor because Pryor could be timed and left himself open quite a bit. As I said, hard fight to call. Obama 07-28-2009, 10:39 AM Attacking Sanchez was like walking into a propeller, he was such smooth fighter with excellent footwork and a great chin. The worst ive seen Sanchez look is against Ruben Castillo and Cowdell, but i believe he fought to the level of opposition and when he was on he was on.......Nelson, Gomez, Lopez 2x. Best ive seen Pryor look was against Gaetan Hart,Arguello 1 or possibly Leonidas Asprilla, but the worst ive seen him look was against Dujuan Johnson where it looked for a split second in that fight like he was ready to be taken out. Pryor attacked with his chin hanging up in air and attacking such an accurate puncher like Sanchez cannot be good imo, although Pryor did use angles well when attacking i must admit. A green Nelson beat the hell out of Sanchez. I had him up by a point or two before the stoppage. Pyror would be attacking Sanchez in much of the same way, except with better balance, better chin, and obviously more experience to know how to cope with Sanchez. Pryor by decision. His first fight with Arguello says it all. Even if you beat his ass, he'd come back stronger and make you pay for it. Dynamite Kid 07-28-2009, 11:38 AM A green Nelson beat the hell out of Sanchez. I had him up by a point or two before the stoppage. Pyror would be attacking Sanchez in much of the same way, except with better balance, better chin, and obviously more experience to know how to cope with Sanchez. Pryor by decision. His first fight with Arguello says it all. Even if you beat his ass, he'd come back stronger and make you pay for it. Sanchez was taking over that fight and giving Nelson a beating towards the end of the fight. Pryor left his chin hanging out all the time, he was dropped by many many fighters, and he looked ready to be TKO'ed by Dujuan Johnson. Alexis Arguello had, had 70+ fights when he fought Pryor and he had been in tough fights with with Olivares, Escalera, Mancini, Limon and many others. Pryor is too reckless to beat a smooth Boxer like Sanchez, he would get broke down eventually just like Nelson. At 140 its Pryor but if they are both naturally the same weight its Sanchez for me. Obama 07-28-2009, 11:47 AM I just don't see it. The areas where Nelson was losing the fight in, Pryor is better. Pryor also has the better stamina and chin, and would have more ring experience. So if Nelson lasts 15 before a stoppage, how does Pryor not make it to the finish line? You bring up some questionable Pryor performances, but you can chalk that up to fighting at the level of the opposition. BOLLOCKS 07-28-2009, 11:49 AM A green Nelson beat the hell out of Sanchez. I had him up by a point or two before the stoppage. Pyror would be attacking Sanchez in much of the same way, except with better balance, better chin, and obviously more experience to know how to cope with Sanchez. Pryor by decision. His first fight with Arguello says it all. Even if you beat his ass, he'd come back stronger and make you pay for it. Nelson never hurt Sanchez as badly as Sanchez did to him. Obama 07-28-2009, 11:53 AM Nelson never hurt Sanchez as badly as Sanchez did to him. OK? It's a measuring stick dude. Prime Pryor > Green Nelson. I use him because the method of attack is similar. BOLLOCKS 07-28-2009, 11:55 AM OK? It's a measuring stick dude. Prime Pryor > Green Nelson. I use him because the method of attack is similar. He got KO'ed by a pre prime Sanchez. True Story. Dynamite Kid 07-28-2009, 11:58 AM I just don't see it. The areas where Nelson was losing the fight in, Pryor is better. Pryor also has the better stamina and chin, and would have more ring experience. So if Nelson lasts 15 before a stoppage, how does Pryor not make it to the finish line? You bring up some questionable Pryor performances, but you can chalk that up to fighting at the level of the opposition. What makes you think Pryor had a better chin than Nelson? id hazard a guess that Pryor visited the canvas more times than Nelson, Pryor got dropped many times. Because Nelson had a great chin to and he was never dispatched like that by anyone else in career. If you think Pryor win thats cool because its a hard fight to call, but i myself think Sanchez would win and whilst im not saying he would KO Pryor, im not ruling it out either, because even if Pryor's tendency to leave his chin out did not get him knocked out, it would most prolly make it easier for Sanchez to land clean hard shots on him to rack up points to score a decision. But its a close fight so........ Obama 07-28-2009, 12:06 PM He got KO'ed by a pre prime Sanchez. True Story. ............................................. Obama 07-28-2009, 12:08 PM What makes you think Pryor had a better chin than Nelson? id hazard a guess that Pryor visited the canvas more times than Nelson, Pryor got dropped many times. Because Nelson had a great chin to and he was never dispatched like that by anyone else in career. If you think Pryor win thats cool because its a hard fight to call, but i myself think Sanchez would win and whilst im not saying he would KO Pryor, im not ruling it out either, because even if Pryor's tendency to leave his chin out did not get him knocked out, it would most prolly make it easier for Sanchez to land clean hard shots on him to rack up points to score a decision. But its a close fight so........ Eh, you may be right about the chin. I guess the obvious disparity is the recovery skills. Pryor went down, then came back up like he was fresh as a daisy. BOLLOCKS 07-28-2009, 12:12 PM ............................................. ........................... Dynamite Kid 07-28-2009, 12:13 PM Eh, you may be right about the chin. I guess the obvious disparity is the recovery skills. Pryor went down, then came back up like he was fresh as a daisy. Nelson did not ? Nelson's chin was just as good. He did not look fresh as a daisy when he got hit hard by Johnson. Obama 07-28-2009, 12:32 PM ........................... You called Sanchez pre-prime genius. Nelson was his last fight... And if you meant post-prime, you're still wrong. It wasn't his last fight cuz he was past it. It was his last fight cuz he was killed. JAB5239 07-28-2009, 12:42 PM I just don't see it. The areas where Nelson was losing the fight in, Pryor is better. Pryor also has the better stamina and chin, and would have more ring experience. So if Nelson lasts 15 before a stoppage, how does Pryor not make it to the finish line? You bring up some questionable Pryor performances, but you can chalk that up to fighting at the level of the opposition. Wouldn't you do the same with Sanchez vs Nelson than? Azuhma may have been a tough young fighter, but compared to Sal he was inexperienced. Do you not think Sanchez fought to his level of competition and underestimated Nelson? Obama 07-28-2009, 12:46 PM [/B] Wouldn't you do the same with Sanchez vs Nelson than? Azuhma may have been a tough young fighter, but compared to Sal he was inexperienced. Do you not think Sanchez fought to his level of competition and underestimated Nelson? I'm sure he did underestimate Nelson. But if he didn't do so, and Nelson was prime, fight would have gone down the same way. JAB5239 07-28-2009, 12:51 PM I'm sure he did underestimate Nelson. But if he didn't do so, and Nelson was prime, fight would have gone down the same way. I disagree. Fighters get lackadaisical and lazy when they think they have a fight in the bag. If it were a prime Nelson, Sanchez would have been more prepared and focused. There is no way to determine the fight would have gone down the same way. Obama 07-28-2009, 12:58 PM I disagree. Fighters get lackadaisical and lazy when they think they have a fight in the bag. If it were a prime Nelson, Sanchez would have been more prepared and focused. There is no way to determine the fight would have gone down the same way. Uh, Sanchez couldn't have gotten lazy and lackadaisical in the fight. He realized from round 1 that Nelson was for real. He prolly wasn't as prepared as he should have been for the fight, but he gave it everything he had once he realized what was in front of him. In the fights pryor was surprised in, he wasn't in there with world beaters. Hence his sense of urgency was never there. Not the case with Sanchez. JAB5239 07-28-2009, 01:10 PM Uh, Sanchez couldn't have gotten lazy and lackadaisical in the fight. He realized from round 1 that Nelson was for real. He prolly wasn't as prepared as he should have been for the fight, but he gave it everything he had once he realized what was in front of him. In the fights pryor was surprised in, he wasn't in there with world beaters. Hence his sense of urgency was never there. Not the case with Sanchez. If you're not mentally focused going in, it is near impossible to give your best effort. This is why there have been so many upsets in history. Giving everything you have at that moment does not translate into giving your best. Dynamite Kid 07-28-2009, 01:21 PM Thing with the Sanchez KO of Nelson is.............Nelson was not stopped on any one punch, it was accumulative effect of punches he had received during the fight and the hot pace he set, he paid for both those things towards the end of the fight. princemanspoper 07-28-2009, 02:38 PM Oooo I see. We're going with the RJJ philosophy. Doesn't matter that he didn't fight them, cuz he would have beat them anyways. Got it. I'm sure he did underestimate Nelson. But if he didn't do so, and Nelson was prime, fight would have gone down the same way. I thought you scoffed at such a philosophy Dunce? I mean Using your recent witty sarcastic post,does this not contradict what I have bolded in the second post here? because who on earth could believe(apart from yourself of course) that a 13-0 Azumah Nelson was at his peak when he fought the best eatherweight in the world and a 45 pro fight veteran in Salvador Sanchez? Tyson peaked at an early age as did Naseem Hamed,However it sure as hell wasn't thirteen fights into their career.Especially considering the fact that Azumah Nelson remained the best at 126 and 130 leading into the 1990's.Despite being over thirty,An age which many at that weight have or are in a serious decline Or perhaps Nelson just endured a much longer prime than most fighters are given |