Larry Holmes vs Joe Louis

Holmes had the better jab and would hit an easy target like Louis who doesn't bob or weave or have good head movement.

Holmes would dictate the fight with his jab,and bust Louis up with his right hand.Holmes is also the better defense fighter,and takes a good punch.Holmes also out weighed Louis by 15 pounds,and was the stronger fighter.

Louis would never punch unless he had "both" feet planted.So if you keep him turning,keep him moving,he can't plant both feet at the same time to punch.Holmes would give him angles,and keep turning him,keep moving him,and give Joe fits.Larry could also move very well,and Louis being slow on his feet would be chasing a bigger and better Billy Conn.

Style's makes fights,and this would be a nightmare for Joe Louis.I see Larry ahead on all 3 score cards when he stops Louis in the 12th round.Remember,Joe doesn't have the greatest chin in the world,and Holmes continueous left jab and right hand would take an accumilous effect on Joe to the point of a TKO.

Holmes wins an easy 12th round TKO.

Holmes would win but Louis would get some cracks in.

Larry Holmes vs Joe Louis

Holmes had the better jab and would hit an easy target like Louis who doesn't bob or weave or have good head movement.

Holmes would dictate the fight with his jab,and bust Louis up with his right hand.Holmes is also the better defense fighter,and takes a good punch.Holmes also out weighed Louis by 15 pounds,and was the stronger fighter.

Louis would never punch unless he had "both" feet planted.So if you keep him turning,keep him moving,he can't plant both feet at the same time to punch.Holmes would give him angles,and keep turning him,keep moving him,and give Joe fits.Larry could also move very well,and Louis being slow on his feet would be chasing a bigger and better Billy Conn.

Style's makes fights,and this would be a nightmare for Joe Louis.I see Larry ahead on all 3 score cards when he stops Louis in the 12th round.Remember,Joe doesn't have the greatest chin in the world,and Holmes continueous left jab and right hand would take an accumilous effect on Joe to the point of a TKO.

Holmes wins an easy 12th round TKO.
ridiculous.. Joe Louis would murder Larry Holmes knocking him out before the halfway stage... ive read some silly things on boxing forums but the above analysis is laughable

Larry Holmes has the ability to beat Louis but Louis was a deadly fast accurate puncher who had a great ability with both hands, especially with the right; same right-hand that Holmes was vulnerable to. Louis was great at using subtle movements to set you up with a punch that could come in fast accurate and hard right on a vital spot that sets you up for one of his combos and finishes.

One of the things Atlas talked about with Tyson was that Tyson was great (at one point in his career) with "timing"...and Holmes could be hit with a right hand if timed right (according to Cus). And who has the ability to throw a fast accurate timed punch? Joe Louis.

So, I say it would be a tough fight but I could see Holmes winning as well as Louis if he is able to make certain things go his way. The Rematch would be interesting. That's where Louis is at his best after he adjusts and goes into Fight Mode.

Holmes is on my list of fighters that would trouble a Prime Louis.

ridiculous.. Joe Louis would murder Larry Holmes knocking him out before the halfway stage... ive read some silly things on boxing forums but the above analysis is laughable

I think it's laughable that a 169lb Billy Conn is easily beating Joe Louis,and hurts him several times.

Larry Holmes is bigger and better than Billy Conn!

I rate Larry Holmes as the second best heavyweight of all time. I know I'm in a minority!

I do see him taking a decision over Joe Louis. Sorry!

I always end up disagreeing with Sonnybox. Its not deliberate, I just see Holme's style as being too awkward for Louis, Holmes was so fast and defensively adept, his chin was one of the best too. Louis may well have had moments, but I cant favour him in this match up.

i would have to go with louis. i think hed get to holmes too much.

I rate Larry Holmes as the second best heavyweight of all time. I know I'm in a minority!

I do see him taking a decision over Joe Louis. Sorry!

I always end up disagreeing with Sonnybox. Its not deliberate, I just see Holme's style as being too awkward for Louis, Holmes was so fast and defensively adept, his chin was one of the best too. Louis may well have had moments, but I cant favour him in this match up.

I rate him pretty high to, accept for the intense pressure fighters like Frazier and Tyson, he's hard to bet against if you give him room prime for prime.

His jab was so deadly fast, the quickest jab to date in the history of boxing. He had a long successful career with decent competition. the best names showed up at the end of his career however.

I rate him pretty high to, accept for the intense pressure fighters like Frazier and Tyson, he's hard to bet against if you give him room prime for prime.

His jab was so deadly fast, the quickest jab to date in the history of boxing. He had a long successful career with decent competition. the best names showed up at the end of his career however.

i dont know ali's was .3 sec out and back

but thats not the point louis would take holmes... smaller people are faster better at ducking and countering throw an extra 40 or so pounds on billy conn its a completly diffrent person its holmes and he wont be able to get out of the way....and whats the deal with jabs all you have to do is have enough stamina to keep your right up and stay out of the way for 12 rounds which idont see as a problem with louis as he had some of the best relexes with his hands as ive ever seen. it would be a good fight but i see jouis taking holmes down in the later rounds 9ish maybe later

i dont know ali's was .3 sec out and back

but thats not the point louis would take holmes... smaller people are faster better at ducking and countering throw an extra 40 or so pounds on billy conn its a completly diffrent person its holmes and he wont be able to get out of the way....and whats the deal with jabs all you have to do is have enough stamina to keep your right up and stay out of the way for 12 rounds which idont see as a problem with louis as he had some of the best relexes with his hands as ive ever seen. it would be a good fight but i see jouis taking holmes down in the later rounds 9ish maybe later


it's not that easy. Blocking constantly doesn't allow you to see. Even if the jab doesn't hurt you it still blocks your vision and you get popped with a bigger shot.

Yeah but there is also parrying and deflecting that requires you to keep your hand up and thats more so what i was refering to joes ability to just push punches to the side with great accuracy and speed

Norton, Witherspoon and Williams were all fights that could have gone against a prime Holmes. Prime Louis is 10x better than any of them.

Larry would have his moments, he was a great fighter. But Louis would catch him much the way Snipes did, but he would finish him. Louis by late stoppage.

Yeah but there is also parrying and deflecting that requires you to keep your hand up and thats more so what i was refering to joes ability to just push punches to the side with great accuracy and speed

he wouldn't do that to Holmes. Norton was one of the best at doing that and he still lost. Norton BEAT Ali doing that.

he wouldn't do that to Holmes. Norton was one of the best at doing that and he still lost. Norton BEAT Ali doing that.

The difference being that one was the BEST version of Norton, the other was at the tail end of his career.

The difference being that one was the BEST version of Norton, the other was at the tail end of his career.

Someone mentioned the right hand Holmes was vulnerable to. Louis' right hand wasn't the same type of right hand that Holmes was vulnerable to. It wasn't an overhand right. Guys like Shavers and Tyson would dip to the body then throw it up top and catch opponent's with their guard down. Holmes was particularly bad with this because his left hand was almost always down.

Louis didn't really keep his hands to high either as he was vulnerable to certain punches as well. I can't see him avoiding Holmes jab all night.

On top of that, Louis had a great long career with his 25 defenses, but other than that his competition wasn't even as good as an older Norton.

Wallcott was great, but he took Louis to school and got robbed. Even if you don't consider it a robbery, Wallcotts chin was a problem much like Nortons against big punchers.

This would've been a very interesting fight, Holmes' jab and range would've given Louis a lot of troubles, Holmes kinda had the same flaw that Louis had though, he brought his left hand back in low sometimes and left himself open to right hands over the top which could really work against him with a great timer like Louis but Holmes has shown he has a great chin, he can be hurt though and Louis is one of the best finishers in history.

I think this fight either ends by Louis by knockout or Holmes by decision.

Joe Louis would destroy Larry Holmes by the mid rounds.

I think it's laughable that a 169lb Billy Conn is easily beating Joe Louis,and hurts him several times.

Larry Holmes is bigger and better than Billy Conn!
back to the old line "he is big " etc etc etc which is bulls*it, Michael Spinks who weighed 175lbs easily beat Holmes, out-jabbing and out-fighting him over 30rds with their 1st fight being an easy victory for the much smaller Spinks.. Joe Louis would behead Holmes... Holmes struggled throughout his career with a number of opponents and was very lucky to get the nod in the majority of fights, Williams, Bonecrusher (1), Witherspoon, Norton, was all very fortunate victorys for Holmes, he was also rocked very badly in his fights with Arrington, Snipes, Shavers, Bey and Berbick... Louis would have no trouble knocking out Holmes

back to the old line "he is big " etc etc etc which is bulls*it, Michael Spinks who weighed 175lbs easily beat Holmes, out-jabbing and out-fighting him over 30rds with their 1st fight being an easy victory for the much smaller Spinks.. Joe Louis would behead Holmes... Holmes struggled throughout his career with a number of opponents and was very lucky to get the nod in the majority of fights, Williams, Bonecrusher (1), Witherspoon, Norton, was all very fortunate victorys for Holmes, he was also rocked very badly in his fights with Arrington, Snipes, Shavers, Bey and Berbick... Louis would have no trouble knocking out Holmes

Actually Michael Spinks said so himself in a SI article that he always walked around at over 200 lbs at 9% body fat.

yeah 199 and 205 for the holmes fights according to boxing rec

still weighted a decent amount less then holmes. though im not sure how easily he won with both going 15 the first being unamious and the second split.

either way though louis would destroy holmes

back to the old line "he is big " etc etc etc which is bulls*it, Michael Spinks who weighed 175lbs easily beat Holmes, out-jabbing and out-fighting him over 30rds with their 1st fight being an easy victory for the much smaller Spinks.. Joe Louis would behead Holmes... Holmes struggled throughout his career with a number of opponents and was very lucky to get the nod in the majority of fights, Williams, Bonecrusher (1), Witherspoon, Norton, was all very fortunate victorys for Holmes, he was also rocked very badly in his fights with Arrington, Snipes, Shavers, Bey and Berbick... Louis would have no trouble knocking out Holmes

Boyyyy,are you reaching

Just one example:You use Spinks as an example.Holmes was way past his prime and an old man.Wanna use a Joe Louis vs Ezzard Charles as an example to? Lol

Just back to the topic of jabs which was touched on early on, Patterson had the fastest, followed by Ali and Holmes. This was before Tyson and Holyfield were about so they weren't included.

Earnie Shavers said Ali's was faster than Holme's and that was a post prime 1977 Ali. But he felt that Holme's was more accurate and powerful.

Best jab of the lot for me was Holmes.

holmes would win, because of his "new" style of boxing

lol @ anyone who thinks Louis would destroy holmes. Holmes had a rock chin and inhuman recooperative powers. Best jab in the buisness aswell, with an awesome uppercut. He'd wear Louis down and stop him round 13-14.