I haven't read the fight thread yet so I don't know what the rest of you made of tonight's bout. And this isn't sour grapes from me because I lost all my points on a bet. (In a way I'm glad I lost because it means I now get to add the hilarious images IWatchBoxing has created for me as part of my punishment).

But I'm all for the sweet science of hitting and not being hit. Hell, my favourite boxer is Muhammad Ali. But there's a difference between using skill to avoid punches and just running about like a little girl who's just peed in her pants. For Christ's sake, Bernard, this was your 20th Defence in front of the boxing fraternity and Hollywood. In the championship rounds, if nothing else, grow a pair of balls and stand there and trade.

Granted, Eastman was technically deficient on some key areas tonight. But why shouldn't he be? He hasn't dealt with this class before (unless you count Joppy) and a lot of people on here were predicting he would be KOed. (Those "rabbit punches" in the early round were accidental though - Hopkins kept ducking constantly). And true enough, rather than Nuff Tump it was more a case of Not Enuff Tump.

But I would have liked to have seen Bernard box, if only once. I actually really wanted him to get bashed up tonight. Not for Eastman's sake, but because of his smug, ****y little smile when he sat on his seat, thinking he was actually doing a good job rather than just being a ***** running away and pathetically pot-shotting. Yeah, that's outwitting your opponent. It's also cheap and unmanly.

I'm not a macho type, but I wanted a fight tonight. So did the crowd. Say what you like about Howard, he wanted to deliver Nuff Tump. But the guy in the opposite corner wanted to play kiss chase. I liked it when Hopkins seem to register Howard's blow in the 11th. And I liked the fact that no matter what bomb he threw at Eastman (and there were plenty, why didn't Howard adapt?) he couldn't even phase him. Now that's a chin.

Yeah, the scores were accurate, and this is Howard's first legitimate loss (because, no matter what the judges said, he really didn't to William Joppy, by no stretch of the imagination) but how terribly undignified for this "Hall of Famer" to do it in such a weak, cowardly fashion.



I did some research on Bernard. Here's his favourite programme, from UK TV in the early 80s. He watches it all the time: theme tune clip (http://www.tv-ark.org.uk/childrens/c-itv/runaround1980.rm)

Anorak, dont waste time, and try them on, and Hopkins is pathic, cant wait for the Tito rematch :D

i think it was one of the best fights ive seen this past year. B-HOp showed him hes unstoppable, i didnt know he was that fast with his hands and body movement.

I haven't read the fight thread yet so I don't know what the rest of you made of tonight's bout. And this isn't sour grapes from me because I lost all my points on a bet. (In a way I'm glad I lost because it means I now get to add the hilarious images IWatchBoxing has created for me as part of my punishment).

But I'm all for the sweet science of hitting and not being hit. Hell, my favourite boxer is Muhammad Ali. But there's a difference between using skill to avoid punches and just running about like a little girl who's just peed in her pants. For Christ's sake, Bernard, this was your 20th Defence in front of the boxing fraternity and Hollywood. In the championship rounds, if nothing else, grow a pair of balls and stand there and trade.

Granted, Eastman was technically deficient on some key areas tonight. But why shouldn't he be? He hasn't dealt with this class before (unless you count Joppy) and a lot of people on here were predicting he would be KOed. (Those "rabbit punches" in the early round were accidental though - Hopkins kept ducking constantly). And true enough, rather than Nuff Tump it was more a case of Not Enuff Tump.

But I would have liked to have seen Bernard box, if only once. I actually really wanted him to get bashed up tonight. Not for Eastman's sake, but because of his smug, ****y little smile when he sat on his seat, thinking he was actually doing a good job rather than just being a ***** running away and pathetically pot-shotting. Yeah, that's outwitting your opponent. It's also cheap and unmanly.

I'm not a macho type, but I wanted a fight tonight. So did the crowd. Say what you like about Howard, he wanted to deliver Nuff Tump. But the guy in the opposite corner wanted to play kiss chase. I liked it when Hopkins seem to register Howard's blow in the 11th. And I liked the fact that no matter what bomb he threw at Eastman (and there were plenty, why didn't Howard adapt?) he couldn't even phase him. Now that's a chin.

Yeah, the scores were accurate, and this is Howard's first legitimate loss (because, no matter what the judges said, he really didn't to William Joppy, by no stretch of the imagination) but how terribly undignified for this "Hall of Famer" to do it in such a weak, cowardly fashion.



I did some research on Bernard. Here's his favourite programme, from UK TV in the early 80s. He watches it all the time: theme tune clip (http://www.tv-ark.org.uk/childrens/c-itv/runaround1980.rm)

I agree bro. I thought he would of put on a show and knocked Eastman out...but that shows that B-HOP FEARED EASTMAN AND GAVE HIM RESPECT. HE EVEN ADMITTED THAT EASTMAN ROCKED HIS ASS.LOL.

IF hopkins goes to war with Eastman, Eastman knocks him out and wins. Eastman was jus shaking off b-hop's punches.

yeah he is soo pathetic
he has only defended his title
20 damn times, who cares if his
style bores you .
seriusly the guy knows how to
fight, so if you cal someone with
a supreme style of boxing
Pathetic, i guess
Ali is real pathetic.

Hopkins is too smart to get into a slug-fest with a bigger guy, who has a bigger punch, and who is nearly as fast as himself.

I can understand the frustration (and sheer boredom) of large parts of the performance, but you can't fault Hopkins for fighting the smart fight, the one he knew he'd win. Eastman had his chance, and he screwed it up. He made mistakes, failed to adjust and correct them during the fight, and it cost him this time. If he'd worked harder on cutting Hopkins off, and on using angles when moving into range, he wouldn't have caught that leaping left hook from Hopkins all night, and would've most likely forced Hopkins to move inside more often to ensure his chance at a win, thereby giving Eastman the chance he needed to get off those powershots on target.

I haven't read the fight thread yet so I don't know what the rest of you made of tonight's bout. And this isn't sour grapes from me because I lost all my points on a bet. (In a way I'm glad I lost because it means I now get to add the hilarious images IWatchBoxing has created for me as part of my punishment).

But I'm all for the sweet science of hitting and not being hit. Hell, my favourite boxer is Muhammad Ali. But there's a difference between using skill to avoid punches and just running about like a little girl who's just peed in her pants. For Christ's sake, Bernard, this was your 20th Defence in front of the boxing fraternity and Hollywood. In the championship rounds, if nothing else, grow a pair of balls and stand there and trade.

Granted, Eastman was technically deficient on some key areas tonight. But why shouldn't he be? He hasn't dealt with this class before (unless you count Joppy) and a lot of people on here were predicting he would be KOed. (Those "rabbit punches" in the early round were accidental though - Hopkins kept ducking constantly). And true enough, rather than Nuff Tump it was more a case of Not Enuff Tump.

But I would have liked to have seen Bernard box, if only once. I actually really wanted him to get bashed up tonight. Not for Eastman's sake, but because of his smug, ****y little smile when he sat on his seat, thinking he was actually doing a good job rather than just being a ***** running away and pathetically pot-shotting. Yeah, that's outwitting your opponent. It's also cheap and unmanly.

I'm not a macho type, but I wanted a fight tonight. So did the crowd. Say what you like about Howard, he wanted to deliver Nuff Tump. But the guy in the opposite corner wanted to play kiss chase. I liked it when Hopkins seem to register Howard's blow in the 11th. And I liked the fact that no matter what bomb he threw at Eastman (and there were plenty, why didn't Howard adapt?) he couldn't even phase him. Now that's a chin.

Yeah, the scores were accurate, and this is Howard's first legitimate loss (because, no matter what the judges said, he really didn't to William Joppy, by no stretch of the imagination) but how terribly undignified for this "Hall of Famer" to do it in such a weak, cowardly fashion.



I did some research on Bernard. Here's his favourite programme, from UK TV in the early 80s. He watches it all the time: theme tune clip (http://www.tv-ark.org.uk/childrens/c-itv/runaround1980.rm)


You are a joke. Hopkins gave him a one sided beating without even trying. Stop hyping your countrymen. To support them is one thing, to worship them is another. Just because you live in the same country as them it doesnt mean they are good. Eastman was thoroughly dominated and he didnt even deserve to share the ****ing ring with Hopkins.

yeah he is soo pathetic
he has only defended his title
20 damn times, who cares if his
style bores you .
seriusly the guy knows how to
fight, so if you cal someone with
a supreme style of boxing
Pathetic, i guess
Ali is real pathetic.

Do you even know what your talking about...****! ALI got into way more WARS than hopkins~!

ALI IS THE MAN! 15 round wars man! shyt! Hopkins can even come close to Ali, **** that!

I haven't read the fight thread yet so I don't know what the rest of you made of tonight's bout. And this isn't sour grapes from me because I lost all my points on a bet. (In a way I'm glad I lost because it means I now get to add the hilarious images IWatchBoxing has created for me as part of my punishment).

But I'm all for the sweet science of hitting and not being hit. Hell, my favourite boxer is Muhammad Ali. But there's a difference between using skill to avoid punches and just running about like a little girl who's just peed in her pants. For Christ's sake, Bernard, this was your 20th Defence in front of the boxing fraternity and Hollywood. In the championship rounds, if nothing else, grow a pair of balls and stand there and trade.

Granted, Eastman was technically deficient on some key areas tonight. But why shouldn't he be? He hasn't dealt with this class before (unless you count Joppy) and a lot of people on here were predicting he would be KOed. (Those "rabbit punches" in the early round were accidental though - Hopkins kept ducking constantly). And true enough, rather than Nuff Tump it was more a case of Not Enuff Tump.

But I would have liked to have seen Bernard box, if only once. I actually really wanted him to get bashed up tonight. Not for Eastman's sake, but because of his smug, ****y little smile when he sat on his seat, thinking he was actually doing a good job rather than just being a ***** running away and pathetically pot-shotting. Yeah, that's outwitting your opponent. It's also cheap and unmanly.

I'm not a macho type, but I wanted a fight tonight. So did the crowd. Say what you like about Howard, he wanted to deliver Nuff Tump. But the guy in the opposite corner wanted to play kiss chase. I liked it when Hopkins seem to register Howard's blow in the 11th. And I liked the fact that no matter what bomb he threw at Eastman (and there were plenty, why didn't Howard adapt?) he couldn't even phase him. Now that's a chin.

Yeah, the scores were accurate, and this is Howard's first legitimate loss (because, no matter what the judges said, he really didn't to William Joppy, by no stretch of the imagination) but how terribly undignified for this "Hall of Famer" to do it in such a weak, cowardly fashion.



I did some research on Bernard. Here's his favourite programme, from UK TV in the early 80s. He watches it all the time: theme tune clip (http://www.tv-ark.org.uk/childrens/c-itv/runaround1980.rm)


you owe me 100,000.00

I like B-hop but I agree to an extent about him running.

Eastman did have power and he had a bit of an reach advantage. He didn't use his jab effectively and that is probabaly what cost him, other than the fact he kept getting caught with the same left hook.

B-Hop is getting old. He looked old in the ring tonight, I really think that if he stood toe to toe he would get clocked and have gotten hurt. He knew this and fought the fight that he knew would win him the match.

Was it pretty throughout the match? No. Was it effective? Yes. He did what he said he was going to do and no matter if you like the way he did it or not, he got it done.

How you fight does not make you more or less of a champion its winning. Hopkins killed Eastman yeah it was a slow fight but he always has slow fights with fighters when he can. Like he says win this one look great in the next one. ;)

In the championship rounds, if nothing else, grow a pair of balls and stand there and trade.

Why should Hopkins stand there and trade for lengthy periods of time? He uses his brain, and if you cannot appreciate that, so be it.

I'll be honest, I was rooting for Eastman and wanted Hopkins to stand there and get hit, but that would be DUMB. How can you fault him for doing what he needed to do to win?

It's not Bernard's job to please you, and because he doesn't care what the crowd thinks, he can compete with anyone on the all-time lists. He is super calm.

Eastman just wasn't smart enough to deal with Hops' style, and ultimately it's HIS job to figure out Bernard and beat him.

Do you even know what your talking about...****! ALI got into way more WARS than hopkins~!

ALI IS THE MAN! 15 round wars man! shyt! Hopkins can even come close to Ali, **** that!

mmm i guess you are the one who doesnt know what you are talking about, or you cant read.
read the ****ing statement carefuly please,
and get at me when your IQ reaches possitive #'s

I like B-hop but I agree to an extent about him running.

Eastman did have power and he had a bit of an reach advantage. He didn't use his jab effectively and that is probabaly what cost him, other than the fact he kept getting caught with the same left hook.

B-Hop is getting old. He looked old in the ring tonight, I really think that if he stood toe to toe he would get clocked and have gotten hurt. He knew this and fought the fight that he knew would win him the match.

Was it pretty throughout the match? No. Was it effective? Yes. He did what he said he was going to do and no matter if you like the way he did it or not, he got it done.


He didnt run, he shut Eastman out. He simply exposed Eastman by showing that this guy that everyone hyped up couldnt even hit him. He was putting it on Eastman, so there is no way he ran, what did he outland him by? about 200 to about 85? He didnt run, he gave a simply and easy boxing lesson to a much lesser fighter.

mmm i guess you are the one who doesnt know what you are talking about, or you cant read.
read the ****ing statement carefuly please,
and get at me when your IQ reaches possitive #'s

Yea I cant read ok buddy...Then how am I responding to your quotes foolio. lolz.

How many fight of the years has Hopkins been in? zero.
I rest my case.

I haven't read the fight thread yet so I don't know what the rest of you made of tonight's bout. And this isn't sour grapes from me because I lost all my points on a bet. (In a way I'm glad I lost because it means I now get to add the hilarious images IWatchBoxing has created for me as part of my punishment).

But I'm all for the sweet science of hitting and not being hit. Hell, my favourite boxer is Muhammad Ali. But there's a difference between using skill to avoid punches and just running about like a little girl who's just peed in her pants. For Christ's sake, Bernard, this was your 20th Defence in front of the boxing fraternity and Hollywood. In the championship rounds, if nothing else, grow a pair of balls and stand there and trade.

Granted, Eastman was technically deficient on some key areas tonight. But why shouldn't he be? He hasn't dealt with this class before (unless you count Joppy) and a lot of people on here were predicting he would be KOed. (Those "rabbit punches" in the early round were accidental though - Hopkins kept ducking constantly). And true enough, rather than Nuff Tump it was more a case of Not Enuff Tump.

But I would have liked to have seen Bernard box, if only once. I actually really wanted him to get bashed up tonight. Not for Eastman's sake, but because of his smug, ****y little smile when he sat on his seat, thinking he was actually doing a good job rather than just being a ***** running away and pathetically pot-shotting. Yeah, that's outwitting your opponent. It's also cheap and unmanly.

I'm not a macho type, but I wanted a fight tonight. So did the crowd. Say what you like about Howard, he wanted to deliver Nuff Tump. But the guy in the opposite corner wanted to play kiss chase. I liked it when Hopkins seem to register Howard's blow in the 11th. And I liked the fact that no matter what bomb he threw at Eastman (and there were plenty, why didn't Howard adapt?) he couldn't even phase him. Now that's a chin.

Yeah, the scores were accurate, and this is Howard's first legitimate loss (because, no matter what the judges said, he really didn't to William Joppy, by no stretch of the imagination) but how terribly undignified for this "Hall of Famer" to do it in such a weak, cowardly fashion.



I did some research on Bernard. Here's his favourite programme, from UK TV in the early 80s. He watches it all the time: theme tune clip (http://www.tv-ark.org.uk/childrens/c-itv/runaround1980.rm)


makes 20 defenses in a row, and fight till ur 40. dont lose in 12 years. he has to be pathetic rite. REALLY DUM. n y the hell do u care about his fav tv show. u got problems

He didnt run, he shut Eastman out. He simply exposed Eastman by showing that this guy that everyone hyped up couldnt even hit him. He was putting it on Eastman, so there is no way he ran, what did he outland him by? about 200 to about 85? He didnt run, he gave a simply and easy boxing lesson to a much lesser fighter.


Don't sell Eastman short. He's a great fighter, it's just that Hopkins could make damned near anyone look bad, and even so, Eastman didn't look bad, he just failed to make a couple of small adjustments that could've won him the fight. Eastman is very fast, has world class skill, and plenty of experience. I think his true weakness is his corner, more than anything else. They weren't telling him how to keep from catching that leaping left hook, which is the punch that won Hopkins the fight, and they should've been harping on that non-stop in the corner, and thinking of a way around it.

You are a joke. Hopkins gave him a one sided beating without even trying. Stop hyping your countrymen. To support them is one thing, to worship them is another. Just because you live in the same country as them it doesnt mean they are good. Eastman was thoroughly dominated and he didnt even deserve to share the ****ing ring with Hopkins.

Godzhand speaks my exact thoughts here. Anorak, as usual, you prove yourself as a disgrace to the board, as do all in agreement with him. That is all.

It's sad the sport's fan base is full of people who fail to appreciate true skill when they see it, or have respect for a fighter smart enough to counter the risks of boxing by effectively eliminating the risks he takes. Longevity is the key word here. His fellow pugils that were fighting with him when he started boxing have mostly quit, and are looking up to him, thinking 'He is still champ, and I'm here..maybe if I didn't have an agressive style, and take much punishment every bout, I would have lasted as long as B-Hop has'

Have some respect you novices. Nard is forty years old, don't expect him to come out in round one like Tyson. Instead, respect him for throwing that left hook perfectly at the right time as fast as Roy threw it in his prime..


ps- is there a way to ignore a user's posts/threads?

he did what it took to win and he did a good job at it

Jose and Scap, I've paid up 100,000 points to you each for the bet. I have no qualms in that at all, I love a good bet. I just wish I'd lost it on a more entertaining bout.

And I'm about to donate the remainder of my points (over one and a half million) to IWatchBoxing, as agreed. He also had some other punishment for me if I lost the bet, can you tell what it is? :)

As for the idea of Hopkins beating Howard... please. Yes, he did beat Howard. But never, but NEVER, use words like "dominated" to describe a performance like that. He **** his pants and ran all night, yes. If that's your idea of domination, maybe you've been spending too much time in S & M parlours and not enough at ringside.

Yea I cant read ok buddy...Then how am I responding to your quotes foolio. lolz.

How many fight of the years has Hopkins been in? zero.
I rest my case.

mmm your iq is not there yet,
but i will do you a favor,
i was saying the Hopkins fights smart
figths and if you say his fights are pathetic,
you should mind as well say Ali's fights where pathetic,
he also fought smart fights.

please stop before you look dumb

ok too late

makes 20 defenses in a row, and fight till ur 40. dont lose in 12 years. he has to be pathetic rite. REALLY DUM. n y the hell do u care about his fav tv show. u got problems

and now he has to leave, yo Rick i think this guy thats proud of his pride made a deal


http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6647&page=1&pp=10

BAN HIM!!! 3 strikes! hes out of here!

He also had some other punishment for me if I lost the bet, can you tell what it is?

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Slipx - I'm no longer interested in anything you have to say. You have no ability to debate points without turning it in personal attacks with no logical base. Please don't bother me again, because I won't respond any more.


makes 20 defenses in a row, and fight till ur 40. dont lose in 12 years. he has to be pathetic rite. REALLY DUM. n y the hell do u care about his fav tv show. u got problemsNo, YOU have, because you're a moronic cretin who can't even spell properly. Don't you think you're an absolute disgrace to the education system when you don't even know how to spell dumb? Now THAT'S dumb. Or should I say dum?

I'm here for a lively debate all right, but not for this "I'm a smack-talking f***wit" drivel. P*** off and join another thread where talking in one syllable is de rigeur. As for his favourite TV show - why don't you check the link before you open your mouth? Prick.

mmm your iq is not there yet,
but i will do you a favor,
i was saying the Hopkins fights smart
figths and if you say his fights are pathetic,
you should mind as well say Ali's fights where pathetic,
he also fought smart fights.

please stop before you look dumb

ok too late

yeah, you are right. totally, I agree.

it's clearly only the stupid ****s of the board that fail to appreciate the legacy that is Bernard Hopkins.

How can I look angry with these icons? :)

El Terrible - please. I'll say this once more. I get nothing from your pointless, repeated attacks. I don't even know you, and you offer nothing in the way of enjoyable debate. So, for the last time: LEAVE. ME. ALONE.

and now he has to leave, yo Rick i think this guy thats proud of his pride made a deal


http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6647&page=1&pp=10

BAN HIM!!! 3 strikes! hes out of here!

I agree man, Rick, please, I made your avatar...Do me a favor and ban this semen encrusted post-anal condom named Anorak, the board will be such a better place without that *******..His threads revolve around Tyson, or making sick jokes out of unneccessary things..Ultimately of course it's your call, but this is the main forum I browse, and am really pleading with you to get rid of him.

The guy is like graffiti on the side of a million dollar home. You don't leave it there to make the neighborhood devalue, you get rid of it by painting over it.

Paint over anorak.

Slipx - I'm no longer interested in anything you have to say. You have no ability to debate points without turning it in personal attacks with no logical base. Please don't bother me again, because I won't respond any more.


No, YOU have, because you're a moronic cretin who can't even spell properly. Don't you think you're an absolute disgrace to the education system when you don't even know how to spell dumb? Now THAT'S dumb. Or should I say dum?

I'm here for a lively debate all right, but not for this "I'm a smack-talking f***wit" drivel. P*** off and join another thread where talking in one syllable is de rigeur. As for his favourite TV show - why don't you check the link before you open your mouth? Prick.


listen u DUM mother ****er. i can spell the way i want bcuz im not in school u asswipe. i wana c u get in the ring with hopkins u fukin piece of ****. he's pathetic rite... so KO him.

How can I look angry with these icons? :)

El Terrible - please. I'll say this once more. I get nothing from your pointless, repeated attacks. I don't even know you, and you offer nothing in the way of enjoyable debate. So, for the last time: LEAVE. ME. ALONE.

i'll say your out of here in 5 minutes after Rick sees the post you made, you have to keep your word

I think his Icon, and sig is punishment enough, I'm crackin up over here :D

dont just ban his username either because that rat will find his food

ban his IP address and I will use this 400 gb I have to make a bittorrent base for this site, 1k post minimum entrance req. seriously I will do it, if you ban his ip.

de rigeur

only sum1 like u wud say that
**** off. u started that old thread if we want u there. well the vote is 32-19 for NO. SO GET THE FUK OFF. no one likes u SO GO AWAY PLZ

I really don't care anymore. How can you argue with morons like that? And Slipx really tries to get so personally... do you think it's cos I made his mother a new hole?

Tell you what, I'm not backing out, but there's no point when it's just moronic abuse all the time, with no meaning on anything. I'll put all three halfwits on ignore.

this guy has no respect for great boxers, what a piece of bias sh_t

Re: last two posts. What a pair of pathetic wankers you two cretins really are.

i put that piece of **** on ignore



wow, i can feel my IQ increasing already...is that flowers sprouting I see...board is already a better place, wow

The fight in this thread has more action than Hopkins vs. Eastman. Kidding of course. I was fairly entertained by the fight. Hopkins didn't get in there and trade with Eastman because he didn't have to. He frustrated Eastman the entire second half of the fight and I thought had a pretty good performance. I did wonder though whether he would be able to get away with that type of fight against someone like Jermain Taylor, I just don't see it happening.

Jose and Scap, I've paid up 100,000 points to you each for the bet. I have no qualms in that at all, I love a good bet. I just wish I'd lost it on a more entertaining bout.

And I'm about to donate the remainder of my points (over one and a half million) to IWatchBoxing, as agreed. He also had some other punishment for me if I lost the bet, can you tell what it is? :)

As for the idea of Hopkins beating Howard... please. Yes, he did beat Howard. But never, but NEVER, use words like "dominated" to describe a performance like that. He **** his pants and ran all night, yes. If that's your idea of domination, maybe you've been spending too much time in S & M parlours and not enough at ringside.



200 or so punches landed by Hopkins compared to about 85 punches landed by Eastman=domination. Face reality.

No, it's not domination, because most of those were pot-shots, which was really weak.

I'll grant you that 60% of it was skill. But 40% of it was running.

Oh, the person who said that Hopkins doesn't have to entertain me. Well, actually, yeah - if my view is the same of a significant proportion of ticket buyers - he DOES. Otherwise how will he continue to make money at his career?

And while Hopkins fans are rising to this thread, I'm going to sleep now with the sound of those crowd boos in my ears...

just because hopkins gave a tactical beating to eastman dont make him suck, he's smart, he dont brawl, and he's 40 dammit, u expectin a 40 year old to trade shots with a big puncher?
wat happened to Eastman gonna ko hopkins in less than 6 rounds
That's what makes hopkins so special, his unique style and tactics of winning.(Marvelous Marvin Hagler was moree exciting, but Hopkins is still #1 p4p)

No, it's not domination, because most of those were pot-shots, which was really weak.

I'll grant you that 60% of it was skill. But 40% of it was running.

Oh, the person who said that Hopkins doesn't have to entertain me. Well, actually, yeah - if my view is the same of a significant proportion of ticket buyers - he DOES. Otherwise how will he continue to make money at his career?

And while Hopkins fans are rising to this thread, I'm going to sleep now with the sound of those crowd boos in my ears...


You have lost your credibility by proving your amazingly blind faith in every English fighter scheduled in a high profile bout. So, is Ricky Hatton going to K.O. Big KT in 5 rounds just like Eastman said he was going to do to Hopkins? Eastman doesnt deserve a title shot and he doesnt deserve to have fans that think he can go from fighting nobodies to challenging the Pound for Pound best fighter in the world. It would be laughable if it wasnt so "Pathetic". Agree, because you know it's true my english friend.

You have lost your credibility by proving your amazingly blind faith in every English fighter scheduled in a high profile bout. So, is Ricky Hatton going to K.O. Big KT in 5 rounds just like Eastman said he was going to do to Hopkins? Eastman doesnt deserve a title shot and he doesnt deserve to have fans that think he can go from fighting nobodies to challenging the Pound of Pound best fighter in the world. It would be laughable if it wasnt so "Pathetic". Agree, because you know it's true my english friend.No, I reckon the guy's the most legit opponent that Hopkins has faced recently. I know people will say DLH or whoever, but Eastman was a natural at the weight.

Eastman's CV isn't that great, but, like Witter (what did you make of him tonight, btw?) he hasn't been given the chances. Plus, he's been mandatory challenger for what, two years or something like that? I think that gives him a right.

As for Hatton, no, Tsyzu will beat him.

just because hopkins gave a tactical beating to eastman dont make him suck, he's smart, he dont brawl, and he's 40 dammit, u expectin a 40 year old to trade shots with a big puncher?
wat happened to Eastman gonna ko hopkins in less than 6 rounds
That's what makes hopkins so special, his unique style and tactics of winning.(Marvelous Marvin Hagler was moree exciting, but Hopkins is still #1 p4p)There was definite running in some of the rounds. I mean, even if he'd just fought a bit would have been nice.

Oh - the quote in your sig. Is it real?

Dude, Slipx, if you try to compare Hops handspeed with Roy's in his prime one more time, I will never respond or respect anything you ever say again. That means I'll be joining a long list of people who are already in that club I guess...lol.

That means I'll be joining a long list of people who are already in that club I guess...lol.

like who? anorak?

and hopkins lead left hook is as fast as roy's in his prime, and his timing is better than roy's..sorry son, but it's true.


ps- i could really care less about e-respect, and knowing that you do, i have sympathy for you, really i do.

Um, even when Hopkins wasn't "running", Eastman just stood there waiting for an opportunity to throw a big counter uppercut that never came. Meanwhile he got smacked with left hooks all night. Why aren't you lambasting your boy Eastman for being "pathetic"? Why doesn't share any of the blame for making it a 'boring' fight? If Hopkins was so pathetic, what was Eastman scared of?

And yes, he got dominated. Landed like 10% of his punches while Hopkins landed about half of his.

you guys are answering your own damned comments

"if Hopkins would have traded, he would have gotten hurt"

Hopkins didn't get to 20 defenses by not being a smart fighter...he knows he is 40 years old and he knows his standing in the Boxing world...his place in history...he knew to fight tenative vs Allen in their third fight because a MAJOR money DLH fight was on the line...he knew to fight tenatively vs DLH because he was not about to make the same mistake Hagler did and Hops began to adjust...he knew not to be stupid and try to get Eastman out of there in round 1...

Can the man get ANY credit? he has no reason to put extra wear and tear on his body at 40 years of age especially when he can beat you by dancing and jabbing...

it is like some of you question Hopkins' ability to fight...if you question that...then you need to watch some more Hopkins fights especially in the middle part of his career...the man is an animal and can fight...but he is at the TOP TOP level of the sport right now and can't afford to be stupid...

I enjoy watching him masterfully break down opponents...Hopkins said it himself..."I am not a big puncher...I am a soft puncher"...why would he go bumrush a fighter at the risk of being KOed especially with this much on the line (all 4 titles and the first time all 4 have been put on the line in history, his 20th defense, etc)

the man is great...get used to it or get over it...

i think it was one of the best fights ive seen this past year. B-HOp showed him hes unstoppable, i didnt know he was that fast with his hands and body movement.
u must be talkin bout 05
cuz there havent been many fights
but if ur talkin 04
ur fukin insane
JMM-Pac, MAB-Morales, Trinidad-Mayorga just to name the big ones
u must not watch a lot of boxing

Dogg, it sounds like Hop soundly beat Eastman like he does every other ****er that stepd up to him. I haven't seen the fight but I'm hammered so I read what happened. Good **** by B-Hop for beating Howar...HEY SPINXY....GUESS YOUR OUT A 100 MILLY.

damn mann... lotta hatin goin on over herre... but yea... too me it was a one sided fight for bhop... eastman didnt do much... juss to show you that age wasnt a factor again for b hop...

you guys are answering your own damned comments

"if Hopkins would have traded, he would have gotten hurt"

Hopkins didn't get to 20 defenses by not being a smart fighter...he knows he is 40 years old and he knows his standing in the Boxing world...his place in history...he knew to fight tenative vs Allen in their third fight because a MAJOR money DLH fight was on the line...he knew to fight tenatively vs DLH because he was not about to make the same mistake Hagler did and Hops began to adjust...he knew not to be stupid and try to get Eastman out of there in round 1...

Can the man get ANY credit? he has no reason to put extra wear and tear on his body at 40 years of age especially when he can beat you by dancing and jabbing...

it is like some of you question Hopkins' ability to fight...if you question that...then you need to watch some more Hopkins fights especially in the middle part of his career...the man is an animal and can fight...but he is at the TOP TOP level of the sport right now and can't afford to be stupid...

I enjoy watching him masterfully break down opponents...Hopkins said it himself..."I am not a big puncher...I am a soft puncher"...why would he go bumrush a fighter at the risk of being KOed especially with this much on the line (all 4 titles and the first time all 4 have been put on the line in history, his 20th defense, etc)

the man is great...get used to it or get over it...

I think a lot of it comes down to the fact that there are many people who want to see him lose. They want to see him get in there and trade with someone so that he can get knocked out. :boxing:

mmm your iq is not there yet,
but i will do you a favor,
i was saying the Hopkins fights smart
figths and if you say his fights are pathetic,
you should mind as well say Ali's fights where pathetic,
he also fought smart fights.

please stop before you look dumb

ok too late

Ali isn't pathetic you dummy lolz. Damn man! I hate ignorant people like you making assumptions.

"i was saying the Hopkins fights smart figths" - DAMN fool...you cant even write a correct sentence let alone spell. And i'm the one who's dumb. sure buddy what ever you want to believe.

Cant wait until Morales-Pacquiao fight. Those 2 warriors should be making the big bucks and getting all the fame B-Hop is getting. Oh well, Karma is a *****.

yeah he is soo pathetic
he has only defended his title
20 damn times, who cares if his
style bores you .
seriusly the guy knows how to
fight, so if you cal someone with
a supreme style of boxing
Pathetic, i guess
Ali is real pathetic.

I agree I think HBO focused way to much on the fact that the fight wasn't extremley exciting. Hopkins is the man.

That fight was boring as hell and it was Hopkins fault. But I guess we should expect him to run and play it safe. All the guy does is play it safe fight mediocre fighters and blown up Welters.

he did what he needed to win and I won't fault him for that but he is still a running little ***** who is afraid to step up and take a risk agianst a bigger/better fighter.

The guy may be an alltime middleweight, but he can't be considered an alltime p4p.

and now he has to leave, yo Rick i think this guy thats proud of his pride made a deal


http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6647&page=1&pp=10

BAN HIM!!! 3 strikes! hes out of here!

I thought he was already permanantly banned for the Shmelling thread? :confused:

Oh man. That was one of the most intense psychological warfare I've seen in a loooong time. Anyone whos says it was a snooze fest is entitled to their opinion but I honestly found it nailbiting. Sooo tactitcal even with the psychology aspect. Eastman was super poised and I think he ven got B-Hop worried in the opening rounds. But I found that Eastman broke down by the mid rounds. B-Hop was playing him like a fiddle from then on. Faints we're also enough to fool anybody. Tooo dammn crafty this man. And quick! My goodness, he showed no signs of his 40 years.

I will never doubt the discipline and composure of Bernard Hopkins again. Economic and effective, this is why he is king.

Howard should have watched those tapes...

That fight was boring as hell and it was Hopkins fault. But I guess we should expect him to run and play it safe. All the guy does is play it safe fight mediocre fighters and blown up Welters.

he did what he needed to win and I won't fault him for that but he is still a running little ***** who is afraid to step up and take a risk agianst a bigger/better fighter.

The guy may be an alltime middleweight, but he can't be considered an alltime p4p.

you had to watch it having both guys mentality. Eastman damn near convinced me that he was going to win, so calm, confident but in a humble way. It's like he knew something we didn't. And Hopkins going for his 20th and how important it is for him. Then you picture yourself in that same bout and see what would you do. The mind games we're back and forth and Bernard was SET on having Eastman come to him. He wasn't gonna be the agressor and I think that's what Eastman prepared for.

This whole is still bothering me. YES, there was a psychological aspect of the bout that we, as appreciators of the sport, would appreciate more than the always-unforgiving LA crowd.

But this wasn't Cassius Clay bobbing and weaving, using his perpetual motion and natural reflexes to place himself out of danger and into strategically advantageous positions. This was an old man using his movement to place himself completely out of the fight for almost two thirds of every round - then desperately pot shotting just to clock up a win on the judge's scorecards. If that's the way your man impresses you, then so be it. But it's not a crowd pleasing style, and in many senses, it isn't boxing, either, no matter how much you pretend that it is.

Anorak is it true what
your avatar and signature
says? Are you really gay?

This whole is still bothering me. YES, there was a psychological aspect of the bout that we, as appreciators of the sport, would appreciate more than the always-unforgiving LA crowd.

But this wasn't Cassius Clay bobbing and weaving, using his perpetual motion and natural reflexes to place himself out of danger and into strategically advantageous positions. This was an old man using his movement to place himself completely out of the fight for almost two thirds of every round - then desperately pot shotting just to clock up a win on the judge's scorecards. If that's the way your man impresses you, then so be it. But it's not a crowd pleasing style, and in many senses, it isn't boxing, either, no matter how much you pretend that it is.

1) I didn't see an old man in that ring. If anything he made Eastman look old.

2) I think you know as much as mee Bernard could care less about pleasing the crowd. He grins when they boo. He-could-care-less.

3) Isn't boxing? "Hit and not get hit" that's the way it should be played. That's more of boxing than a Gatti-Ward fight.
I ain't "pretending" it's boxing. IT IS BOXING. The VERY DEFINITION of it.

If you couln't see the skills demonstrated in countering, flawless timing, controlled agression, economic distribution of punches, maximizing damage inflicted, maintaining composure, setting up traps and openings, overall veteran craftiness....

welll that's a damn shame.

But this wasn't Cassius Clay bobbing and weaving, using his perpetual motion and natural reflexes to place himself out of danger and into strategically advantageous positions. This was an old man using his movement to place himself completely out of the fight for almost two thirds of every round - then desperately pot shotting just to clock up a win on the judge's scorecards. If that's the way your man impresses you, then so be it. But it's not a crowd pleasing style, and in many senses, it isn't boxing, either, no matter how much you pretend that it is.

If Hopkins stood around pot shotting, why didnt Eastman do something about it. All you have said is how Hopkins was "pathetic", so if Bernard was pathetic, what was your countryman? What's worse than pathetic? I mean he was outlanded more than 2 to 1. I guarantee that if Eastman wasn't from England, you would not be saying **** about Hopkins. He did what he had to do, and that was dominate a fighter that was much lesser than him in every aspect. I take back what I said about Eastman not deserving the shot, he was the number 1 contender to one of the belts, but he was dominated, quietly if you will. I say quietly because the fight wasnt spectacular.

MT Jr. - it's my punishment for losing a bet. I've got till March before this can come off...


1) I didn't see an old man in that ring. If anything he made Eastman look old.I disagree.

2) I think you know as much as mee Bernard could care less about pleasing the crowd. He grins when they boo. He-could-care-less.Whether he could care less or not is irrelevant. It's part of his job. If he doesn't deliver fights people enjoying watching, they won't keep watching them.

3) Isn't boxing? "Hit and not get hit" that's the way it should be played. That's more of boxing than a Gatti-Ward fight.
I ain't "pretending" it's boxing. IT IS BOXING. The VERY DEFINITION of it.

If you couln't see the skills demonstrated in countering, flawless timing, controlled agression, economic distribution of punches, maximizing damage inflicted, maintaining composure, setting up traps and openings, overall veteran craftiness....

welll that's a damn shame.No, fair play, I could see that - in spurts. I'd say 60% of his work that night was skill... but there was a high level of just avoiding the job at hand at all. Frequently it wasn't a case of "hit and not be hit" it was "not be hit and don't hit back either." I'm not talking about the feints... I'm talking about his constant tours of duty over the other side of the ring.

Maybe it's just that his name is so unrelated to his style. If he WAS an executioner he'd just hand his axe to Howard and say "cut your own head off, I'm going to watch from over there but might give you a nudge from time to time."

I thought you were really
gay. You act like you are
sometimes. Like when you made
that thread asking if people
wanted you here.

If Hopkins stood around pot shotting, why didnt Eastman do something about it. All you have said is how Hopkins was "pathetic", so if Bernard was pathetic, what was your countryman? What's worse than pathetic? I mean he was outlanded more than 2 to 1. I guarantee that if Eastman wasn't from England, you would not be saying **** about Hopkins. He did what he had to do, and that was dominate a fighter that was much lesser than him in every aspect. I take back what I said about Eastman not deserving the shot, he was the number 1 contender to one of the belts, but he was dominated, quietly if you will. I say quietly because the fight wasnt spectacular.Oh, I agree with you on that point, Godzhand - Howard came expecting a different type of fight (much like the crowd) and didn't adapt well at all.

But I disagree with you about the patriotism thing. If I DO get patriotic, it's normally overcompensation for how much stick UK fighters get. I just saw the first Lewis-Rahman fight again the other day. "We have a new heavyweight champion of the world... and he's from the United States." Now what does THAT mean?

I thought you were really
gay. You act like you are
sometimes. Like when you made
that thread asking if people
wanted you here.Granted, I spat my dummy out there. I think I just get peeved sometimes, because I really love the sport and discussing it, but 70% of the people on here are just smack-talkers who can't discuss anything without having to insult each other or adopt childish "ur a hater" tactics. Still, this is 25% better than **********, where they're all morons.

Anorak,

If you think those shots from Hopkins we're pitty pats. I wanna see you feel them. These are short, fast, crisp punches. Damn accurate as well. You're missing the whole point. It's efectiveness. Effectiveness to beat your oponent, dominate your oponent. He wasn't "avoiding" the job at hand. If he was, why would he have taken the fight in the first place? Or better yet, why would the scorecards read lanslide? His "tours of duty" :rolleyes: is precise calculation and observation. It's SCIENCE man!

And he IS the executioner. He just don't kill in one shot. More of a slow and painfull death. That's more of his style.

I think you fell asleep in the first 2 rounds and missed the rest of the fight.

Granted, I spat my dummy out there. I think I just get peeved sometimes, because I really love the sport and discussing it, but 70% of the people on here are just smack-talkers who can't discuss anything without having to insult each other or adopt childish "ur a hater" tactics. Still, this is 25% better than **********, where they're all morons.




what does spat my dummy
mean?

Oh, I agree with you on that point, Godzhand - Howard came expecting a different type of fight (much like the crowd) and didn't adapt well at all.

But I disagree with you about the patriotism thing. If I DO get patriotic, it's normally overcompensation for how much stick UK fighters get. I just saw the first Lewis-Rahman fight again the other day. "We have a new heavyweight champion of the world... and he's from the United States." Now what does THAT mean?


It doesnt matter what that means. The HBO guys hype up their new cash cows all day. That's expected. You hype up and practically worship every English fighter that is involved in a high profile fight. Eastman couldnt adapt because (A)he didnt have the skill, AND (B) Hopkins didnt allow him. Hopkins didnt outland Eastman 200+ to about 85 by running. It was by dominating. You spent 90% of your replies on this thread bashing Hopkins, why not bash Eastman? He did WORSE THAN HOPKINS.

Ali isn't pathetic you dummy lolz. Damn man! I hate ignorant people like you making assumptions.

"i was saying the Hopkins fights smart figths" - DAMN fool...you cant even write a correct sentence let alone spell. And i'm the one who's dumb. sure buddy what ever you want to believe.

Cant wait until Morales-Pacquiao fight. Those 2 warriors should be making the big bucks and getting all the fame B-Hop is getting. Oh well, Karma is a *****.


wow...just, wow....

I thought you were really
gay. You act like you are
sometimes. Like when you made
that thread asking if people
wanted you here.


lol

its about time we agree on something

Mooks... I kind of agree with you. Your point about me taking the shots from Hopkins is a bit daft (I don't think Chris Byrd hits all that hard but I wouldn't like him to smash me in the face to prove otherwise), but generally you're accurate for, as I see it, 60% of the bout. But I still maintain it was an ungainly and inconclusive way to win your 20th defence. Yeah, he beat Eastman in a boxing match, but not in a fight. They may be hard shots, but Howard can take nuff tump as well as dish it.

MTJr. - to be childishly petulant, to react in a moody way without thought; like a baby spitting its dummy out of the pram. (See also: Chucked my Teddy)

Godz... as I said, I have to try and hype up the English guys. It's not nice to come on here and read "This Limey is a *** bum" from guys who don't even know them. I was disgusted at the lack of respect shown to Eastman. Did you see the jeering faces in the crowd when he was having a prayer? What respect is that for the man's religion?

Besides, all I'm saying, win or lose... Eastman wanted to make a bout of it. He was ready for Nuff Tump.

Slipx
This message is hidden because Slipx is on your ignore list.Bliss!!!! :)

Mooks... I kind of agree with you. Your point about me taking the shots from Hopkins is a bit daft (I don't think Chris Byrd hits all that hard but I wouldn't like him to smash me in the face to prove otherwise), but generally you're accurate for, as I see it, 60% of the bout. But I still maintain it was an ungainly and inconclusive way to win your 20th defence. Yeah, he beat Eastman in a boxing match, but not in a fight. They may be hard shots, but Howard can take nuff tump as well as dish it.

MTJr. - to be childishly petulant, to react in a moody way without thought; like a baby spitting its dummy out of the pram. (See also: Chucked my Teddy)

Godz... as I said, I have to try and hype up the English guys. It's not nice to come on here and read "This Limey is a *** bum" from guys who don't even know them. I was disgusted at the lack of respect shown to Eastman. Did you see the jeering faces in the crowd when he was having a prayer? What respect is that for the man's religion?

Besides, all I'm saying, win or lose... Eastman wanted to make a bout of it. He was ready for Nuff Tump.



I forgot your from England.
Thats why I never heard that
spat my dummy befor. You guys
talk difrent over there.

hahahahahahahahaha this was a class thread i laft all the way throught it thanx for the entertainment

im watching the fight tonight so i,ll decidefor my self but i do prefer to see fighter make a match of it and peopleare being far todisrespectfulto eastman he went the distance with a hall of fammer that knocked out oscar de la hoya and wasnt even hurt yet ppl are calling him **** i dont think hopkins will gave him another chance he to old and i think if the did meet again eastman would be ableto do sum damage in knowing what to expect

Only said my point about you fighting Hopkins is cuz you said they were little nudges. You can take nudges can't you? lol

No knacking on Eastman, but if someone's gonna criticize b-hop, I'm with Godzhand, might as well criticize Eastman. I don't know what would have mad e you think Bernard Hopkins was gonna fight Eastman in a war but you shouln't have expected it. When was the last time you saw Hopkins in a war?

He needed to take away Eastman's power and thats to tie him up and work inside or countering and making him miss. Not that B-hop can't take power as he was hit flush a couple of times yet took it and smiled. That's phili-tougness. And it's weak to say he beat him at boxing and not in a fight lol Eastman wasn't even able to make it a fight. It's boxing, that's the sport. Eastman got beat because he was outclassed, period. He would have loss, boxing or fighting B-hop just did it his way. Safely but surely and look who got the W.

hahahahahahahahaha this was a class thread i laft all the way throught it thanx for the entertainment

im watching the fight tonight so i,ll decidefor my self but i do prefer to see fighter make a match of it and peopleare being far todisrespectfulto eastman he went the distance with a hall of fammer that knocked out oscar de la hoya and wasnt even hurt yet ppl are calling him **** i dont think hopkins will gave him another chance he to old and i think if the did meet again eastman would be ableto do sum damage in knowing what to expectNice one :)

Of course, there are probably people who think DLH was competitive, rather than just having it ripped out of him by Hopkins. (Another English expression - having the piss ripped out of you).


So as Howard didn't get a beating like Joppy got, wasn't he a better opponent than Joppy? And as he didn't get KOed like DLH or Tito, wasn't he more of a challenge to Hopkins than either of them? I didn't see Bernard piss in his pants and get on his bike against Oscar's pitter-pats.

He would have loss, boxing or fighting B-hop just did it his way. Safely but surely and look who got the W.He DID get the win, I'm not disputing that. Just not in a way befitting a hall of famer.

As for Hop winning a war - are you sure? Eastman took some flush shots and didn't blink... but I relished that moment early in the eleventh when Hops didn't like the power.

Godz... as I said, I have to try and hype up the English guys. It's not nice to come on here and read "This Limey is a *** bum" from guys who don't even know them. I was disgusted at the lack of respect shown to Eastman. Did you see the jeering faces in the crowd when he was having a prayer? What respect is that for the man's religion?

Besides, all I'm saying, win or lose... Eastman wanted to make a bout of it. He was ready for Nuff Tump.


Eastman may have wanted to make a fight of it, but he didnt. He couldnt. He was outclassed. Why can't you say that? He was outclassed by a greater fighter. You wouldnt give half a **** about the crowd jeering when he was praying if he was american. I think I'm done responding to your comments. Simply because you are unrelentlessly bias in favor of your countrymen. The facts are Hopkins outlanded Eastman more than 2 to 1. You dont do that by running. If Hopkins was "pathetic" as you called him, what was Eastman? Considering he was outlanded more than two to one. Rather than complain about him being boo'd during his prayer, why dont you tell me what Eastman was last night compared to Hopkins? Tell me. You say Hopkins was pathetic, fine. Then what was Eastman?

Eastman may have wanted to make a fight of it, but he didnt. He couldnt. He was outclassed. Why can't you say that? He was outclassed by a greater fighter. You wouldnt give half a **** about the crowd jeering when he was praying if he was american. I think I'm done responding to your comments. Simply because you are unrelentlessly bias in favor of your countrymen. The facts are Hopkins outlanded Eastman more than 2 to 1. You dont do that by running. If Hopkins was "pathetic" as you called him, what was Eastman? Considering he was outlanded more than two to one. Rather than complain about him being boo'd during his prayer, why dont you tell me what Eastman was last night compared to Hopkins? Tell me. You say Hopkins was pathetic, fine. Then what was Eastman?

put him on ignore, the board is way better with him on ignore, believe me. ;)

He DID get the win, I'm not disputing that. Just not in a way befitting a hall of famer.

As for Hop winning a war - are you sure? Eastman took some flush shots and didn't blink... but I relished that moment early in the eleventh when Hops didn't like the power.

He won his 20th the way he won the first 19. His way. Executing things his way is what made him a hall of famer.

Eastman was outclassed. War or not, Hopkins would have imposed his will.

He won his 20th the way he won the first 19. His way. Executing things his way is what made him a hall of famer.

Eastman was outclassed. War or not, Hopkins would have imposed his will.

the look on eastman's face after round one = priceless. he knew he was ****ed.

and when b-hop when back to his corner did any of you hear what he said?

"Ray Robinson, 20th defense baby" he knew he had eastman beat and only landed three punches. words from a great.

Eastman may have wanted to make a fight of it, but he didnt. He couldnt. He was outclassed. Why can't you say that? He was outclassed by a greater fighter. You wouldnt give half a **** about the crowd jeering when he was praying if he was american. I think I'm done responding to your comments. Simply because you are unrelentlessly bias in favor of your countrymen. The facts are Hopkins outlanded Eastman more than 2 to 1. You dont do that by running. If Hopkins was "pathetic" as you called him, what was Eastman? Considering he was outlanded more than two to one. Rather than complain about him being boo'd during his prayer, why dont you tell me what Eastman was last night compared to Hopkins? Tell me. You say Hopkins was pathetic, fine. Then what was Eastman?


I'm waiting.........................................

I'm waiting.........................................I' ve answered this, haven't I? Is Joe Frazier pathetic in his first fight with Ali because he couldn't get shots off when Ali held him around the neck? (and I LOVE Ali, but I can't stand it when he does that).

I've answered this, haven't I? Is Joe Frazier pathetic in his first fight with Ali because he couldn't get shots off when Ali held him around the neck? (and I LOVE Ali, but I can't stand it when he does that).

I dont care about Frazier, or Ali. I asked you what was Eastman if Hopkins was "pathetic"? No you didnt answer that question

I dont care about Frazier, or Ali. I asked you what was Eastman if Hopkins was "pathetic"? No you didnt answer that questionYou can see the analogy I'm making though, surely? Yeah, Eastman wasn't scintillating last night, but I'd hardly call him "pathetic". He was ready to fight, but was taken out of the fight by Bernard's anti-boxing antics... analogous to Ali constantly grabbing Frazier's neck.

the look on eastman's face after round one = priceless. he knew he was ****ed.

and when b-hop when back to his corner did any of you hear what he said?

"Ray Robinson, 20th defense baby" he knew he had eastman beat and only landed three punches. words from a great.

Yup heard that to. Mann I'm telling you this guy could have mixed it with the best of them., He's got the stamina to for 15 round. So calm and cool even by teh tenth round. Eastman was huffing and puffing.

One more win and Hopkins will have shattered a record for title defense. I hope he wins one more.
On his 22nd defense, I hope someone finds a way to take him out. Not many fans want to see the like of Hopkins continue his domination. Case in point: the boos from rounds 1 to 11.

You can see the analogy I'm making though, surely? Yeah, Eastman wasn't scintillating last night, but I'd hardly call him "pathetic". He was ready to fight, but was taken out of the fight by Bernard's anti-boxing antics... analogous to Ali constantly grabbing Frazier's neck.


he got outlanded more than 2 to 1. That is a fact even you can't deny with your ridiculous bias statements. So Eastman did better than Hopkins even though he didnt win more than 3 rounds? He was taken out of the fight by being out-landed and outclassed. I'm done with this subject. Your unrelenting bias in favor of your countrymen is a joke. Just like when you wouldnt get off Danny Williams' jock after he got destroyed by Vitaly. I am not wasting my time arguing with this ignorance. Yes, you being unbelievably bias towards your countrymen is a form of ignorance. Peace Anorak. What's up MOOKS! Big up to Hopkins on his DOMINATION of Eastman.

if its domination i dont know wat is.
first haf was close. then hopkins swept the last half
if u were looking for a tactical smart boxing match, this was for u. but if u were looking for a war, don't watch it, IMO.
so wat Anorak r u leaving or wat???
i dont think i've found one person that really agrees with u, or wants u to stay. lets get rick in here

One more win and Hopkins will have shattered a record for title defense. I hope he wins one more.
On his 22nd defense, I hope someone finds a way to take him out. Not many fans want to see the like of Hopkins continue his domination. Case in point: the boos from rounds 1 to 11.
this time he's one the greatest fighter that conquers all of the belts...time will come, he will meet the fighter to pull him down in his pedestal.but give him a credit of what he achieved.he fought eastman clean and square,no question about it!....i hope he wins one more, it defends upon the one who will fight him...i hope, someday hopkins/trinidad2 would box once again before he retire....

Hopkins won smart, everybody knows he takes 3 or 4 rounds to get going, Eastman was frustrated and easily out-boxed.
Hopkins is showing wear and tear though and i really think he should retire this year.
Eastman was a bit of a disappointment to me he would not let his hands go at all very often, oh **** yeh the reason for that was cos when he did land he got hit and when he swiped the air he got hit too, and what did he say about Hops power, if it wasn't all that then why didn't he get stuck in, he did move back when X landed good shots and you don't do that if your opponants power is no good.
Exciting no, very interesting fight yes - overall i liked it
Big up to witter too he came through a hard one

You're right bombshell. I give him credit. I even think I'm fortunate to live in an era of a fighter who has shattered an all time great record.

But somehow, in the back of my mind, I really expected more. Maybe it's my expectation of an executioner who fights to truly execute an opponent rather than outpoint him.

Bernard has all the tools to take out a fighter, even if he doesn't employ those age old antics he has used for years, such as the headbutt and low blows. Sorry but I have always been yearning to see more. Bernard will soon retire and he's still the same boring Nard I've seen in years.

Sigh...

Hopkins Out-Classes Eastman, Makes 20th Title Defense By DOUG FISCHER
(February 20, 2005) Photo © Tom Hogan

LOS ANGELES, Feb. 19 - World middleweight champion Bernard Hopkins turned back a spirited challenge from Howard Eastman to notch his record 20th title defense in front of a packed house at Staples Center. The unanimous decision victory for Hopkins was not the exciting ring war that many among the star-studded crowd had hoped to see, rather, it was an exhibition of expert ring artistry from a 40-year-old champ who has probably forgotten more about boxing than all of the contenders in the 160-pound division will ever learn.

However, Hopkins worked his craft in front of 12,828 Angelinos, people who drove in the rain to see a show, not art.

"The crowd was hot and cold, but I think I heard more cheers than boos," said Hopkins, who won by scores of 119-110, 117-111 and 116-112. "I think they wanted us to fight like Gatti-Ward, but that's not my style."

Hopkins, now 46-2-1 (32), was always a smart warrior, although in the early to mid-'90s he was a feared puncher. However, since the late '90s, Hopkins has developed into a cagey veteran who relies more on his mind than his muscle.


Smart Warrior.

I think it's fascinating that a fighter bred in Philadalphia, a place notorious for it's gym wars, has an offense like his. Check out other Philly fighters, a great example is Meldrick Taylor. His main flaw was taking what he learned in Philly to heart, and always making it a war. B-Hop probably got his taste of gym wars early, and realized his career would be extremely short if he went pro with that aggressive style. So what did he do? He developed legendary reflexes and counterpunch ability, to eliminate the larger risks of boxing. (brain trauma, eye trauma, neck trauma, etc.)

Many people would love to see him get KO'd, a few friends of mine wanted Eastman to take him out, but it's great to know Nard takes a stand in the more impressive fashion: By denying his opponent's victory.

Yeah, the scores were accurate, and this is Howard's first legitimate loss because, no matter what the judges said, he really didn't to William Joppy (yes he DID), but how terribly undignified for this "Hall of Famer" to do it in such a weak, cowardly fashion.

Spoken like a true brain-dead pseudo-fan. You're opinion is dismissed and filed accordingly under "T" for trash. Someone has alot to learn about boxing.

Enough said.

he got outlanded more than 2 to 1. That is a fact even you can't deny with your ridiculous bias statements. So Eastman did better than Hopkins even though he didnt win more than 3 rounds?That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that at least Eastman was prepared to fight, not hang around over the other side of the ring all night. How about this analogy: fighters who fight Ruiz aren't necessarily pathetic. But Ruiz always is. Yet Ruiz beats other fighters. You see what I'm getting at? It doesn't matter if Hop won, he won bad.

Your unrelenting bias in favor of your countrymen is a joke.You've got to stop repeating that now. We're done with that subject, surely? It's becoming an all-too-easy get out for you when I say something you don't like.

Just like when you wouldnt get off Danny Williams' jock after he got destroyed by Vitali.No, Vitali gave him the most embarrassingly one-sided pounding I've ever seen. I was just upset that people then drew the conclusion that Danny = crap. We won't know until he mixes it with the rest of the division... all of whom are far weaker than Vitali.

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Spoken like a true brain-dead pseudo-fan. You're opinion is dismissed and filed accordingly under "T" for trash. Someone has alot to learn about boxing.

Enough said.What a complete penis you are. I hate it when people try and dispute another's opinion just by going "you're thick". What, so that means you win the debate, right? Am I in a playground here?

Incidentally, Mr. Brain Dead, "you're" in context should be "your" and "alot" should be "a lot". But then what do I know? I'm brain dead, right? Prick.

What a complete penis you are. I hate it when people try and dispute another's opinion just by going "you're thick". What, so that means you win the debate, right? Am I in a playground here?

Incidentally, Mr. Brain Dead, "you're" in context should be "your" and "alot" should be "a lot". But then what do I know? I'm brain dead, right? Prick.


Perhaps you failed to realize that he was referring to your lack of boxing knowledge, and not your grammar abilities.

I've made a poll out of this, so the silent majority can vote without getting Nard's Nuts harranguing them: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29237

Yeah he was so pathetic that he kicked that Euro-**** ass. This thread sounds like sour grapes to me...Win, lose or draw I knew the Euro-**** would talk **** after this fight...I was right.

Yeah he was so pathetic that he kicked that Euro-**** ass. This thread sounds like sour grapes to me...Win, lose or draw I knew the Euro-**** would talk **** after this fight...I was right.
Johnny, I know you're a wind-up merchant so I'll let it pass. :)

Come on, he didn't kick his ass... he ran and won the points.

I think it's fascinating that a fighter bred in Philadalphia, a place notorious for it's gym wars, has an offense like his. Check out other Philly fighters, a great example is Meldrick Taylor. His main flaw was taking what he learned in Philly to heart, and always making it a war. B-Hop probably got his taste of gym wars early, and realized his career would be extremely short if he went pro with that aggressive style. So what did he do? He developed legendary reflexes and counterpunch ability, to eliminate the larger risks of boxing. (brain trauma, eye trauma, neck trauma, etc.)

Many people would love to see him get KO'd, a few friends of mine wanted Eastman to take him out, but it's great to know Nard takes a stand in the more impressive fashion: By denying his opponent's victory.

Great post. And when he'll be indecuted in the hall of fame, he'd be talking straight and normal cuz he fought smart. All teh guys I've seen who had been in wars have developped speech problems among other things cuz of all teh wars theyve gon through. :)

and hopkins lead left hook is as fast as roy's in his prime, and his timing is better than roy's..sorry son, but it's true.

Son? Sorry, but my genes are way better than that. You are officially a moron. By the way, I wouldn't expect you to care about respect because with all the stupid things you say you couldn't afford to care.

So, sorry "paw", but it's not true, it's your opinion, and the majority I am 100% confident disagree with you, because it is simply a dumb opinion.

Dismissed.

Yeah he was so pathetic that he kicked that Euro-**** ass. This thread sounds like sour grapes to me...Win, lose or draw I knew the Euro-**** would talk **** after this fight...I was right.


LOL..That's the way Euro**** are.. Their whole society is based on pacifism and whining and *****ing!! They worry about every sh*t the King and the Queen take.. And worst of all, England's highest rated athlete is David Beckham LOL.. Let the Redcoats have their way, at least they arent as pathetic as France

is this thread still here???
theres nothing to discuss
hopkins aint pathetic... 20 straight defenses and hes 40.

Son? Sorry, but my genes are way better than that. You are officially a moron.

Is it just me who finds it absolutely hilarious when a person attempts to insult another person, and uses a word they don't understand to do it?

(from dictionary.com)
Gene = A hereditary unit consisting of a sequence of DNA that occupies a specific location on a chromosome and determines a particular characteristic in an organism. Genes undergo mutation when their DNA sequence changes.

What does this have to do with you being younger, and me being older? I suggest you choose a word you fully understand before using it to flame someone...

What does this have to do with you being younger, and me being older? I suggest you choose a word you fully understand before using it to flame someone...

Way to use something ou of context, moron. Yes, I know what gene means. I graduated Biology honors and have a 4.0 GPA right now, so don't go there.

By saying "son", which technically means I am your offspring, you insulted me as if somehow I could be related to you. So I just had to point out that the genes in my bloodline are a lot better than what you were gifted with. Next time think before you type, grandpa.

I graduated Biology honors and have a 4.0 GPA right now


you might as well just say you have a twenty inch dick while you are at it.i wonder how many other 4.0 gpa holders brag about it on the internet?probably not many.you probably have like a 2.9 or something and are just trying to get attention.its sad the things people do for attention.being that u r from pensacola,i think u are just mad because hops hook really is somewhat comparable to jones's, definately not on par, but surely comparable.and your quote is the weakest thing ive ever read,rjj the greatest ever hahahahahahahhahaah you *****

So I just had to point out that the genes in my bloodline are a lot better than what you were gifted with.

For future reference, when someone calls a total stranger 'son', they aren't assuming them as their own family, and it was ignorant of you to think that I was doing that. It's means 'kid' in that context, and with an education like you just bragged about having, you should've known that.

pm me if you wanna continue this, don't clutter up the forum with this garbage ;o

rjj the greatest ever hahahahahahahhahaah you *****

well rjj is definately one of the greatest, like top 20, definately not the greatest ever, but surely one of the greatest. You mis quoted

I haven't seen the fight yet...when I get it I'll put down my 2 cents though.

You know what? I wanted Eastman to score an upset but... Hey, props to Bhop for his 20th successful title defense. He fought the smart battle. I think boxing matches arent always supposed to be a war. It's a chess game. Additional props to BHop for not letting the booing change his battle plan. It takes a good amount of self control to not let the crowd get to you. The Executioner fought an intelligent fight and I didnt know he can still dance around in circles around his opponent at 40. His victory is legit.

Hopkins was a joke, i cant believe how negative he was!?!? Even his own fans were booing the decision. :D

Eastmans a raw fighter and i expect Hopkins too win well on points, when i heard the result i wasnt supprised but after seeing it how the **** did the judges have it so one sided? Eastman took the fight too him, Hopkins had a couple of scoring shots per round and thats it.

Hopkins cant be P4P 1 anymore, that isnt the same man who schooled Tito.

I'd love to see Calzaghe vs Hopkins now, Calzaghe's skills are pretty raw too but i think he'd hand Nard his ass.

Hopkins was a joke

I am suprised elv, I had no clue you were that type of fan, I always had you pinned as the intelligent /strategic fan

it's sad this generation x type fan base boxing has nowadays, but with tyson leering in the past it was inevitable. tyson created thousands of fans that only love the sport to see aggressive knockouts, and they think that's all the sport is.

what b-hop did vs eastman was legendary, to say that is a joke is uncomprehensible

in round one I remember when bhop made that first left pivot feint, I sat up and said 'damn!' out loud, I was hella impressed at the way the old man could feint like that. it isnt all about aggression...you need to appreciate his legacy of longetivity

the shots bhop did land were perfectly timed and perfectly placed, eastman was defenseless against every shot hop landed, because he flawlessly landed them. But in the eyes of a novice that only watches the sport to see aggressive KO's, i can see how he can come off as a joke, so it's understandable.

While you may not have noticed it, every single thing Eastman did was exploited by Hop, even the couple of punches eastman was able to land,nard landed also on those exchanges.

I remember once, I forget which round it was though, Eastman landed a weak shot on B-hops face and hop got pissed, came forward fearlessly with a left right and stuck eastman with both.

he overly dominated eastman, just not aggressively. you can't seriously expect a forty year old fighter to bring it to the younger guy...

I'd love to see Calzaghe vs Hopkins now, Calzaghe's skills are pretty raw too but i think he'd hand Nard his ass.

Ain't that the truth.

Ain't that the truth.

lol,calzaghe

who the hell is that? oh yeah, I don't know because he hasn't ever fought outside of europe....he calls himself a world class fighter, lol..all he's doing is beating little fish in a wading pool, if and when he does step up to nard, he'll get routinely executed, no doubt.

Calzaghe is just another Euro-***...he'll be executed no problem.

Calzaghe is just another Euro-***...he'll be executed no problem.

just another hatton...sure he's undefeated, but against mostly ****ty fighters in a ****ty circuit to begin with

frank warren's motto: 'my fighters are gonna be undefeated,but inexperienced when they go up against the real deal'

To give such an ill advised view on Calzaghe, you must be either retarded, or not seen any Calzaghe fights. I thought it was just the officials in the states who were currupt and clueless. But you dont do yourselves as fight fans any favours saying stupid things like that. Hopkins will get murdered by Calzaghe. That's why he, and that bum Glen Johnson (who you retards voted 'fighter of the year' over Ronald Wright), have ducked him for the past few years.

Does Hopkins remind you of a Monty Python movie? 'Run away,run away'.

..and talking of never fighting outside his own backyard. What about Roy Jones. George 'Himler' Bush could teach that coward about geography.

To give such an ill advised view on Calzaghe, you must be either retarded, or not seen any Calzaghe fights.

What does it matter how good he looks in his fights if he is up against ****ty fighters in a ****ty circuit?

That's like saying Tyson looked good in the Etienne fight, look who he was fighting. Go back to whatever hole you crawled out of, mr. full red bar of ****ty reputation.

I suggest you stop now, while you are behind, before you further disgrace the Calzaghe fans

To give such an ill advised view on Calzaghe, you must be either retarded, or not seen any Calzaghe fights. I thought it was just the officials in the states who were currupt and clueless. But you dont do yourselves as fight fans any favours saying stupid things like that. Hopkins will get murdered by Calzaghe. That's why he, and that bum Glen Johnson (who you retards voted 'fighter of the year' over Ronald Wright), have ducked him for the past few years.

Does Hopkins remind you of a Monty Python movie? 'Run away,run away'.


No It didnt really remind me of monty python because I stay away from your Euro-*** culture...Not only is your comedy not funny...but most of your fighters just don't cut it...that's why you Euro-**** ***** and moan whenever one of your **** lose.

What i'm saying is. We see a lot more of your fighters on our tv in England, than you see of ours in the States. So i dont see what qualifies you to judge fighters you have seen so little of?

No It didnt really remind me of monty python because I stay away from your Euro-*** culture...Not only is your comedy not funny...but most of your fighters just don't cut it...that's why you Euro-**** ***** and moan whenever one of your **** lose.
like what he's doing right now.... lolz... but yea hopkins fought the way he usually fought... eastman said he was gon ko hopkins... but he barely rock him... dun get mad at hopkins... get mad at eastman for not backing up his words...

..and talking of never fighting outside his own backyard. What about Roy Jones. George 'Himler' Bush could teach that coward about geography.


Nice try, but..

1. I am not a Roy Jones fan

2. Bush is a cunt imo

so we actually agree here. but you cant blame jones for not wanting to fight outside his hometown, in the olympics in Seoul, i think it was, he was robbed, they gave it to the hometown guy when jones clearly won the fight. after being robbed like that, it's understandable that he is so domestic..

Anyway, the Latinos & Asians have the best fighters in the world today. I'm afraid the lack of true class is on both sides of the Atlantic at the moment.

Anyway, the Latinos & Asians have the best fighters in the world today. I'm afraid the lack of true class is on both sides of the Atlantic at the moment.


mm besides Paquiao who else do asians have??

Tszyu is 1/4 Korean!!??

Tszyu is 1/4 Korean!!??

lol one and 1/4
ok another one please

I heard that Kostya's pops is half korean too.

these gyz like calzaghe n ottke n stuff, these gyz haf to fight on HBO to be considered prize fighters. these gyz are like ranked 1 or 2 w/e in the world but we've never seen them. this is not like a junior straweight or sumin, this is middl n supermiddle

i dont understand why europe has to have their own separate circuit

there should just be a pool of fighters, one massive international circuit..

Don't sell Eastman short. He's a great fighter, it's just that Hopkins could make damned near anyone look bad, and even so, Eastman didn't look bad, he just failed to make a couple of small adjustments that could've won him the fight. Eastman is very fast, has world class skill, and plenty of experience. I think his true weakness is his corner, more than anything else. They weren't telling him how to keep from catching that leaping left hook, which is the punch that won Hopkins the fight, and they should've been harping on that non-stop in the corner, and thinking of a way around it.

spot on, that left uppercut/hook (hybrid punch, similar to RJJ) was not solved by eastman. I think he had to say stuff this, i'm going to wear his left and land my right hand over the top. or atleast get his bloody hand up and block.

he also had trouble with bhops, overhand lead right, really a punch he should not have been hit with considering his reach. to beat bhop u must uses side to side movement, slip and counter. u can't come straight at him, or bomb him from range, he's too technically sound. Tito gets beat every time, and taylor isn't quite ready (taylor will be an effective light heavy.)

I watched it a second time, and it wasn't as bad as I thought... I was just disappointed. I can't see how anyone could get off on a "Hall of Famer" getting into the books by having him holding and hitting and throwing single shots and ducking. Yeah, Hop had significantly better handspeed than Eastman, but considering Eastman was fighting "the p4p fighter" (not my words) then didn't he do better than expected? I thought Hop was going to KO him early?

There seem to be too many "Hall of Famers" these days, people writing history books with no real consequence. Look at how many HOFs there are at this moment... and not any of them are worth a damn.

which fighters have recently been accepted in the hall of fame? Aside from Hopkins, I mean. If there were others I didn't know about it, but would like to.

Well, I'm thinking RJJ. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE RJJ, but a lot of his work is done not by hard graft, but by manipulating figures. All that talk about him being one of the few middleweights to beat a heavyweight. Yeah, impressive, I agree. But the heavy was John Ruiz.

How is Hopkins pathetic? He hasn't lost in 12 years!

How is Hopkins pathetic? He hasn't lost in 12 years!Yeah, but it's HOW he won them that bothers me.

Here's what he's going to use in his next fight:

http://www.anorakzone.com/bike.jpg

How is Hopkins pathetic? He hasn't lost in 12 years!

lesser fans don't appreciate counterpunching, they think both fighters should meet head to head and collide, and probably enjoy seeing older fighters slurring words. it's best to just ignore them, why even view a person's posts that lacks boxing experience/knowledge, and spews useless bull**** 24/7.

I agree bro. I thought he would of put on a show and knocked Eastman out...but that shows that B-HOP FEARED EASTMAN AND GAVE HIM RESPECT. HE EVEN ADMITTED THAT EASTMAN ROCKED HIS ASS.LOL.

IF hopkins goes to war with Eastman, Eastman knocks him out and wins. Eastman was jus shaking off b-hop's punches.


Good point!

I had stated this before in a previous thread not long ago. Only Bernard truly knows how much fight he has in him before "self doubt" begins to creep up. Did Hopkins fight Eastman with the "not to loose" mentality or was he just being cautious?!

Granted, I spat my dummy out there. I think I just get peeved sometimes, because I really love the sport and discussing it, but 70% of the people on here are just smack-talkers who can't discuss anything without having to insult each other or adopt childish "ur a hater" tactics. Still, this is 25% better than **********, where they're all morons.


Where do you get your statistics from? Who made you the judge of boxing boards? I think 69% of all boxing forums think your full of shyt.

Where the Hell did this old thread get dragged up from?

Who made me the judge? Just expressing an opinion, da...

I'm full of ****? No, you're just a moron like I identified above. Go back to the playground, I haven't got time.

Where do you get your statistics from? Who made you the judge of boxing boards? I think 69% of all boxing forums think your full of shyt.


Agreed. This guy's knowledge as a boxing fan is summed up in the title of this thread. No true knowledgeable boxing fan would write such out and out bull**** and for that matter no boxing fan would make fun of the late great Max Shcmelling in a sick joke.

Anarok is the joke and no one on this site really likes this guy. If he were banned again he would not be missed.

How would a prick kid like you know that?

Why do I even bother to answer?? I put you on ignore for a reason, WS.

You're just a silly little boy who likes to abuse people. **** off and leave me alone.

Agreed. This guy's knowledge as a boxing fan is summed up in the title of this thread. No true knowledgeable boxing fan would write such out and out bull**** and for that matter no boxing fan would make fun of the late great Max Shcmelling in a sick joke.

Anarok is the joke and no one on this site really likes this guy. If he were banned again he would not be missed.

mmm he has like 1,000 more posts than you
look at his rep still blue not many people hate him
i disagree with him %90 of the time
but still that doesnt mean i disrespect his opinion,
Anorak is not a bad poster, you might disgree with his opinion
but does that make him wrong????
im just saying man this site should be a
place where you can say your opinion,
without being bashed for doing so,
i dont see why you have to trash him just for what he says.

But come on Anorak Hop IS NOT A JOKE

Hey, Rightuppercut, I have a lot of respect for you, you're a good guy. You're a guy who comes on here and just talks boxing with none of this trashing of people.

I'm about to upload a Hopkins-Eastman compilation actually.

As for the thread... it was dead two weeks ago.

How would a prick kid like you know that?

Why do I even bother to answer?? I put you on ignore for a reason, WS.

You're just a silly little boy who likes to abuse people. **** off and leave me alone.

Clearly acting an ass as usual, I see.

anorak's life story= :lurk:

I just think its corny to call an entire site morons and 70 percent of this site haters.
Its called a forum for exactly that it gives you a "forum" to express your views on the sport.
Otherwise you would go back to your insignificant life of **** and masturbation!
Oh wait that was another generalization like the one you made about this board and others.
real lame.

Look, if someone's talking about boxing I'm all for that, no problems at all, no matter what their viewpoint.

But if someone just wants to post stuff like this:

"yo nuthugger why's you're hating so much looser? fuk youse yo ****in retard ***gut"


Then yeah, I see that as a waste of my eyes having to read it.

Now I'll be the first to admit that I dislike Bernard Hopkins. He underperforms against mediocre competition, has very boring fights, and his 2 biggest fights have been against Welterweights. With that said, give the man his due. He goes out there, beats everyone out there, has never been stopped, and has been the man for 10 years. Enough with the hating. Tito has his legacy, Hopkins has his.

It's not Bernard's job to please you, and because he doesn't care what the crowd thinks, he can compete with anyone on the all-time lists. He is super calm.

Eastman just wasn't smart enough to deal with Hops' style, and ultimately it's HIS job to figure out Bernard and beat him.


^^^^^^^^^^^ exactly

I've heard the same complaints about Hopkins but I think if you watch him closely you can really appreciate the skill. I think it's entertaining to watch a guy with such incredible defense and counterpunching. Some people might not appreciate it as much as a KO but I think it can be just as interesting to watch.

Here the link for the compilation highlights (http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29968)

The debate goes on an on. :boxing:

Hey daf, weren't you the same guy who did the avi stream for Zab II with me? Weird that we're arguing about this crap now.

Anorak...sorry about your losing that bet and taking on such strong...um...gay pride.

Hopkins was terrible in his performance against Eastman from an entertainment standpoint, but from a winning rounds (by barely doing anything) perspective it was a masterful performance.

BB

Nah Anorak im not silly like that to get into fights or some shyt.
Its a constructive argument.
I just didnt agree with your post and commented on it.
I wouldnt stoop to name calling and deragotory remarks so its cool.
Id still share a fight with you and trade and agree on another thread.

You told me I was full of ****! :D

lol unless youve taken a laxative chances are that you are lol.

B-Hop is now 40years old.But his fight is more skilful as well as young
ages he was. Tito's rematch is much of fun.Then B-Hop's reality will be
proved.

I agree man, Rick, please, I made your avatar...Do me a favor and ban this semen encrusted post-anal condom named Anorak, the board will be such a better place without that *******..His threads revolve around Tyson, or making sick jokes out of unneccessary things..Ultimately of course it's your call, but this is the main forum I browse, and am really pleading with you to get rid of him.

The guy is like graffiti on the side of a million dollar home. You don't leave it there to make the neighborhood devalue, you get rid of it by painting over it.

Paint over anorak.

http://www.profi-serv.de/top-funfiles/site/funny.jpg

Jesus, Neils is one twisted piece of ****... I haven't even read his post, but what kind of stalker headcase goes around bumping threads that died FIVE MONTHS AGO?

Neils, instead of bumping threads like some obsessive stalker prick you ought to just stick to ****ing your dead mother and whoring her bones on Ebay. Twisted dead mother prick!

How does Hopkins and other boxers get paid?By fans watching their fights.Hopkins fights like Ruiz.Runs and grabs like a bytch.Hopkins is just lucky he didnt have to fight fighters like Benn.Hagler,Hearns,ect ect ect.

(laughs at Anaorak)

Bhop is the man. SMH at this.

Wtf? Hopkins dominated Eastman.

Anorak, the best thing that has ever happened in boxingscene :luvbed:.

Anorak, the best thing that has ever happened in boxingscene :luvbed:.

Yo Rad, quality sig homey. :fing02: