View Full Version : Jermain Taylor Vs Bernard Hopkins


BBFM
02-20-2005, 12:04 AM
Who would win? If they fight next or after a couple fights who would take it? In my opinion I think it's so smart that hes considering waiting a while(Jermain Taylor)hes young and ****ing talented not make the same mistake(fernando vargas did) anyways post your opinions please.

dino
02-20-2005, 12:08 AM
i said it A YEAR AGO...taylor will beat hopkins..for the transition of middle weights

TyrantT316
02-20-2005, 12:09 AM
Who would win? If they fight next or after a couple fights who would take it? In my opinion I think it's so smart that hes considering waiting a while(Jermain Taylor)hes young and ****ing talented not make the same mistake(fernando vargas did) anyways post your opinions please.

Hopkins has the skills to win...but Taylor has a wicked jab and is just so big for a MW...close fight...but Hopkins squeaks by...I think Hopkins would be eating some of the hardest shots from Taylor than he has in a while

Stickman
02-20-2005, 12:11 AM
I keep saying this, and Tyson and Jones both agree with me (which I find both pleasing, and greatly disturbing)...Taylor is still a bit too green, and needs a few more fights before he's ready for Hopkins. If he fights him now, I don't think he can beat him. Hopkins is too experienced, too cagey, and too hard to hit with big shots. Taylor may very well be the future of the division, but not if he tangles with Hopkins too soon.

INFAMOUZ
02-20-2005, 12:11 AM
Guyz I Think Jermain "bad Intenstion" Taylor Is A Treat For Bernard Hopskin... I THINK TAYLOR IS READY FOR HOPKINS Hope This Year Willl Happen :boxing:

Floydmayweather
02-20-2005, 12:13 AM
Give Taylor a little more time to work on his skills and maybe have one or two more fights. He will be ready, and it should be a great fight.

Slipx
02-20-2005, 12:14 AM
I keep saying this, and Tyson and Jones both agree with me (which I find both pleasing, and greatly disturbing)...Taylor is still a bit too green, and needs a few more fights before he's ready for Hopkins. If he fights him now, I don't think he can beat him. Hopkins is too experienced, too cagey, and too hard to hit with big shots. Taylor may very well be the future of the division, but not if he tangles with Hopkins too soon.

my thoughts exactly

you can't just come in on a guy like that,(b-hop) that's been fighting for that long and expect to land punches on him at will, he is a defensive genius with better reflexes than he had in his prime.. truly a freak of nature.

hopkins will just lead him out into deep water, let him land a few shots to get confident and tire himself out then hop will just start warming up on him..

outofit
02-20-2005, 12:20 AM
i really admire jermain's attitude he is always eager and excited about his sport and his learning of the game. If it turns out to be a hard leason its best taught by hopkins and taylor will eventually make a great champ win or lose. (no shame in losing to hopkins)

oldgringo
02-20-2005, 02:43 AM
Hop would **** on Taylor late at this point. Jermain has nice skills but Hopkins would **** him up.

BBFM
02-20-2005, 03:14 AM
well i hope he waits and doesent get greedy like vargas

jt is so awesome i have been watching him for quite a while and hes awesome learning and getting better every time i see him

dodge
02-20-2005, 04:17 AM
Hopkins by TKO 10 if they fought now.

thekid
02-20-2005, 05:12 AM
Hopkins would win and retire after the fight. Hopkins should go toe to toe with Jermain Taylor win, then for his final mega bout fight Cazeghe.

Silverfox
02-20-2005, 05:51 AM
Who would win? If they fight next or after a couple fights who would take it? In my opinion I think it's so smart that hes considering waiting a while(Jermain Taylor)hes young and ****ing talented not make the same mistake(fernando vargas did) anyways post your opinions please.
BH is not strong enough for JT. Jt would have taken Eastwood out. Hopkins couldn't do it. JT will KO BH. In any event, I don't think Hopkins will take on the Taylor clash. In that regard, he's smart!

Palma
02-20-2005, 08:12 AM
J.T. will be champion some day, but I too feel that he needs a few more fights before facing Hopkins. Last evenings match between Eastman and Hopkins showed me that Hopkins has lungs of steel. Was it me or did anyone else notice how great a shape the 40 year was in. The man hardly showed any sign of fatigue. Unlike Eastman who looked like he had just finished running a marathon. Hopkins is an amazing athlete!

dcgun
02-20-2005, 09:00 AM
I think it would be a great match up, but Hopkins experience will be the telling difference.

Truth
02-20-2005, 09:01 AM
Who would win? If they fight next or after a couple fights who would take it? In my opinion I think it's so smart that hes considering waiting a while(Jermain Taylor)hes young and ****ing talented not make the same mistake(fernando vargas did) anyways post your opinions please.

Honestly I pick Hopkins by a 10th round TKO because I don't think Taylor has anything Bernard can't deal with. And as we saw last night Hopkins skills have not diminished.

m00ks
02-20-2005, 10:04 AM
Too young. Sorry Jermain, not in this lifetime. RJJ said he showed him too muc respect which in way is conceding your will and that's absolutely true. Bernard wouls mess with the kid's head till fight night and make him look mediocre like everyone else. You have to beat Hopkin's mind to beat his game. Too green...

marvdave
02-20-2005, 11:22 AM
I hope Taylor waits. He is a tremendous talent, and is the future. At this point he is not ready for Hopkins. Hopkins would give him a lesson. I don't need the future of the division taking a "meldrick taylor" beating this early in his career.

I would rather see Hopkins fight the winner of Tarver-Johnson and go away for good. He doesn't need to fight anybody else.

Enayze
02-20-2005, 01:00 PM
Taylor is one of my favorite fighters, so is Hopkins. And with that said, Taylor beats Hopkins via KO. He is the heir apparent, his last fight he had me very impressed.

tyson
02-20-2005, 01:12 PM
Taylor is one of my favorite fighters, so is Hopkins. And with that said, Taylor beats Hopkins via KO. He is the heir apparent, his last fight he had me very impressed.
Yes, impressed you against who?
You shouldn't put any up-and-coming fighter in against the divisions best before they have faced and defeated a couple of A-class fighters.
If Taylor fights Eastman and wins, then we know he's ready.
But before that, nah...

BBFM
02-20-2005, 01:32 PM
seems like almost everyone feels he should wait and sooner or later he will smack his ass up bhop honestly i dont has ever been great i think i would really like to see someone on his ass just swinging

Zab Super Judah
02-20-2005, 01:35 PM
i guarentee jermaine taylor will not be able to make middleweight in a year
or so

mic573
02-20-2005, 02:09 PM
Hopkins dominated Eastman and a fight against Taylor wouldn't be much different at this stage. I hope Hopkins does try to go after Taylor soon to see if they really mean what they say or if they are just talking.

Super_Lightweight
02-20-2005, 02:13 PM
I hope Taylor waits. He is a tremendous talent, and is the future. At this point he is not ready for Hopkins. Hopkins would give him a lesson. I don't need the future of the division taking a "meldrick taylor" beating this early in his career.

Let me make it plain and simple for yall. If Hopkins and Taylor are going to fight, they have to fight NOW. Hello. Bernard cannot fight the winner of Trinidad-Wright until August or September since they ain't even fighting until May. As for Tarver and Johnson, their fight isn't even on the schedule yet.

That only leaves one option, so Taylor is oing to have to fight Hopkins now, or NEVER. For those of you saying Taylor should wait, he CANNOT wait, there is no time. Hopkins is retiring soon, or did yall forget?

Taylor's life and career will not be messed up if he loses to Hopkins. Hopkins doesn't hav the style these days that would cause Taylor to be completely beat up and demoralized for life. Did yall see the Eastman fight? If Taylor does lose, and that's a big if, he will still go on to be the champ at some time later on, trsut me.

tracylee
02-20-2005, 02:15 PM
Until last night I've always said that Taylor needed a few more bouts before taking on B-Hop, but after watching Hopkins run for 6 rounds I'm not so sure anymore. He showed Eastman way too much respect during the first half of the fight, and I think Taylor would try and force him to fight a little more (atleast I hope so!!) I wasnt impressed with Benard at all last night, and got so bored watching him run I almost stopped watching the fight. It got to the point that I was hoping like hell Eastman would knock him out!!

tracylee
02-20-2005, 02:17 PM
Let me make it plain and simple for yall. If Hopkins and Taylor are going to fight, they have to fight NOW. Hello. Bernard cannot fight the winner of Trinidad-Wright until August or September since they ain't even fighting until May. As for Tarver and Johnson, their fight isn't even on the schedule yet.

That only leaves one option, so Taylor is oing to have to fight Hopkins now, or NEVER. For those of you saying Taylor should wait, he CANNOT wait, there is no time. Hopkins is retiring soon, or did yall forget?

Taylor's life and career will not be messed up if he loses to Hopkins. Hopkins doesn't hav the style these days that would cause Taylor to be completely beat up and demoralized for life. Did yall see the Eastman fight? If Taylor does lose, and that's a big if, he will still go on to be the champ at some time later on, trsut me.

and I agree that losing to Hopkins wouldnt end his career or anything..he'd just be one of many that did. And everybody would just blame it on his youth and inexperience.

Tha Greatest
02-20-2005, 03:39 PM
Hopkins will destroy him...

Floydmayweather
02-20-2005, 05:12 PM
i guarentee jermaine taylor will not be able to make middleweight in a year
or so

Yeah he will he is a natural middleweight he just is freakishly big.

tyson
02-20-2005, 05:22 PM
Jermaine will probably be a great champion someday, just not yet.
He MIGHT be able to beat Hopkins this year, but most likely not. His management knows that, and so does he. No need to take that risk. I guess Jermaine wants to mature and be ready when the time comes to fight for the championship, so he doesn't want to rush it needlessly.
Can't blame him for that, and you can't blame Hopkins for going after bigger moneyfights to end his freakishly long career either.

Unless Hopkins' pride gets the better of him, I don't really think this fight will happen at all. Why should he risk losing to the new kid in town when he can move up to fight in a no-lose situation, or go for Trinidad instead? If he choose the Trinidad route, it's a no-lose situation too. Because if he loses that fight, people will say he grew old overnight.

.::EnRiQuE::.
02-20-2005, 05:57 PM
taylor really hasn't been in a tough fight. if hopkins puts the pressure on him and turns the fight into a rough fight i dont know how tatylor will do. If i see taylor win a TOUGH fight where he has to dig deep to win i'll say he is ready but till then....he's still too green

xrhythmxnxbluesx
02-20-2005, 06:14 PM
like everyone else on the thread... i wanna see taylor wait awhile... i think... the reason why hopkins want his so soon... is because he's still a newcomer in boxing... and hopkins wil think that he will make mistakes during there fight.. and hopkins will capitalize on every oppurtunity....

AintGottaClue
02-20-2005, 06:16 PM
taylor wont make it pass sturm

xrhythmxnxbluesx
02-20-2005, 06:20 PM
taylor wont make it pass sturmyea he would...

abdiel2k3
02-20-2005, 06:22 PM
taylor wont make it pass sturm
course he will
he'll walk right by him as he enters the areana to fight hopkins
as strum yells at the top his lungs
"i beat the golden boy first!!"

tracylee
02-20-2005, 06:23 PM
taylor wont make it pass sturm

Look I actually like Sturm, although not as much as you do obviously. Having said that, even though Sturm has a fine jab of his own, and I totally think he beat Oscar (yes, I really do believe that!!!) Jermain has one of the damn best jabs in the business. He also has every advantage over Sturm available to any boxer! He's bigger, taller, and has a much longer reach. Theres just no way he'd could take Jermain. Not in my opinion anyway.

tracylee
02-20-2005, 06:24 PM
course he will
he'll walk right by him as he enters the areana to fight hopkins
as strum yells at the top his lungs
"i beat the golden boy first!!"

Nice abdiel!!! :D It entered my mind that nobody was discussing Hopkins fighting Sturm, only Jermain! That alone tells me something ;)

FistFest
02-20-2005, 06:25 PM
Should the fight happen I see Bhop never mixing up with Taylor. Hopkins will "fight in spurts" and will be looking for an opening at all times. He will never ever hang it all out in a fight with Jermain even at this stage in Taylor's career. Best bet is for Jermain to cut off the ring perfectly and jump on Bhop in the first half of the fight and once he's sure he leads all judges cards, Jermain should play possum and counter Bhop till the end of the fight. Just my opinion :rolleyes:

AintGottaClue
02-20-2005, 06:43 PM
Nice abdiel!!! :D It entered my mind that nobody was discussing Hopkins fighting Sturm, only Jermain! That alone tells me something ;)

that was brilliant i almost fell over in laughter +karma for u. only reason peopel dotn like sturm or think taylor is better is cause taylor is a balck american and yes that is the main reason sturm is a white german taylor is a balck american. doesnt mean he is better though.

tracylee
02-20-2005, 06:45 PM
that was brilliant i almost fell over in laughter +karma for u. only reason peopel dotn like sturm or think taylor is better is cause taylor is a balck american and yes that is the main reason sturm is a white german taylor is a balck american. doesnt mean he is better though.

I dont care where theyre from or what color they are..hell, who cares! I think that Jermain beats Sturm in just about every way possible..he has all the advantages. I like Sturm, but I do think Jermain would be too much for him

AintGottaClue
02-20-2005, 06:46 PM
Look I actually like Sturm, although not as much as you do obviously. Having said that, even though Sturm has a fine jab of his own, and I totally think he beat Oscar (yes, I really do believe that!!!) Jermain has one of the damn best jabs in the business. He also has every advantage over Sturm available to any boxer! He's bigger, taller, and has a much longer reach. Theres just no way he'd could take Jermain. Not in my opinion anyway.

if u happened to see the thread that was about who had the best..

not one person said taylor has the best jab and a coupel peopel did have sturm. taylor is 2 inches taller same weight and is fast. i think sturm is faster (if u have only watched the DLH fight shut up cause u know nothing) and has a mroe sound defence. and about reach adv i dunno i dont know either of there reaches lmao. taylor isnt just gonna dominate sturm at all peopel underrate sturm alot if he was a nobody why didnt DLH as great as he is even though he is in a wieght class he shoudlnt be in get whooped by him?

AintGottaClue
02-20-2005, 06:47 PM
I dont care where theyre from or what color they are..hell, who cares! I think that Jermain beats Sturm in just about every way possible..he has all the advantages. I like Sturm, but I do think Jermain would be too much for him


the boxing majority as a whole if u look at does. no one is gonan pick sturm over taylor unless they know about both fighters

tracylee
02-20-2005, 06:51 PM
if u happened to see the thread that was about who had the best..

not one person said taylor has the best jab and a coupel peopel did have sturm. taylor is 2 inches taller same weight and is fast. i think sturm is faster (if u have only watched the DLH fight shut up cause u know nothing) and has a mroe sound defence. and about reach adv i dunno i dont know either of there reaches lmao. taylor isnt just gonna dominate sturm at all peopel underrate sturm alot if he was a nobody why didnt DLH as great as he is even though he is in a wieght class he shoudlnt be in get whooped by him?

lol, how halarious, and predictable! Somebody disagrees with you (even though they said they liked your boy and thought he beat DLH) and you tell them to shut up. Look, I've told a few others and I'll tell you, dont tell anyone on a PUBLIC forum to shut up..it sounds stupid as hell. You wanna debate all by yourself, go right ahead. When you start with the stupid ****, youre on your own, ok :rolleyes: