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Spartacus Sully
07-26-2009, 06:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5WBSBXLtQY


Started going to a gym stoped after my second class when i realized they were charging me 75$ month for 55 mins of pushups jump squats and sit ups with 5 mins of how to jab from an instructor that shows up 15 mins late regulary or atleast the 2 times i went he was late.

dont go to hatfeild MMA/ boxing gym its its a giant rip off and all they care about is money and being *******'s to their students.

I work night shift 11pm-7am and not only is there nothing closer then 40 mins away other then the place i was going nothing seems to open before 5 and i go to bed at 3. So for about 2 months now as training ive been recording my self every time im on the bag watching it and trying to improve i do about 3 sets of 3 rounds inbeteen each set i watch what i did and try to improve. the video above was my last set yesterday.

im currently working on keeping my right up next to my cheek and once i get that down im going to go for keeping my chin tucked.

opinions advice?

#1Assassin
07-26-2009, 10:23 AM
STOP!

u will only create bad habits, u need a trainer. when u know the basics u can train by yourself and improve by shadowboxing hitting the bag etc. but right now u will only create bad habits.

find a gym asap, if u want to train in the meantime. run, situps etc. but dont do nothing boxing specific.

there has to be some gym u can train at, i take two busses to train myself.

FalconsRB
07-26-2009, 10:40 AM
I don't think he is planing on fighting any time soon but working out right? Good job. thanks for sharin

Alexandros
07-26-2009, 10:43 AM
I watch this hours ago but i dunno wat to say im vert surprise at his talent, i think he is excellent and in good shape/condition i think he is ready for a fight. I think this guy has talent and a natural... did u see the combinations he threw that was precise and very fast. Keep it up man post some vidz like u on shadowbox. :D :D :D

FalconsRB
07-26-2009, 10:45 AM
I watch this hours ago but i dunno wat to say im vert surprise at his talent, i think he is excellent and in good shape/condition i think he is ready for a fight. I think this guy has talent and a natural... did u see the combinations he threw that was precise and very fast. Keep it up man post some vidz like u on shadowbox. :D :D :D

your not exactly Vernon Forest, I seen your sparring..... give the man a break, too many internet experts here, I give you props, at least you put your video up. Let the guy work out have fun and stuf.

Alexandros
07-26-2009, 10:56 AM
your not exactly Vernon Forest, I seen your sparring..... give the man a break, too many internet experts here, I give you props, at least you put your video up. Let the guy work out have fun and stuf.

im helpin get him positive and feel good :)

Spartacus Sully
07-26-2009, 12:02 PM
Assassin thanks but what bad habits am i forming?

this would probably be more so the reason to post the video. I know some basics hands up, chin tucked, elbows tight, try to stay in a line with the bag slipping and side stepping. but everyone tells me im going to form bad habits if i dont have a trainer but i would like to know what bad habits im doing so that i can watch for it in fruther videos since i record all my bag work.

i mean there is no gym that i can go to within 50+ miles that has operating times that work for me being that i go to bed at 2-3 pm and wake up for work at 10:30. 2 both about 40 mins away only teach kids under 18. another gym about hour and half away opens at 3:00. ive called just about every gym in the city (hour to 1hour and a half away) 2 of them opened around 5 the rest didnt answer or reply to the messages left on their machines.

Instead of working on making sure i dont preform my bad habits i just pinpoint one basic at a time to work on and untill im comfortable with that i dont move on. so far its only been getting my jab better which im comfortable with and now keeping my right up next to my face which ive gotten alittle better with next its keeping my chin tucked and staying in line with the bag and not squaring off to much.

Thanks for the compliments i feel ive gotten better since my last videos but they were from before i even tried boxing class, or started recording and critiquing my bag work.

I dont plan on fighting any one for real for atleast a year but at some point i would really like to fight people and i would like to win because of me not some retarded trainer that teaches boxing like any one that does boxing wants to do mma

Sugarj
07-26-2009, 12:18 PM
It wasn't bad at all, much better than I see locally. There was some really nice moves and good combination punching.

bagwellchamp1
07-26-2009, 02:05 PM
yea i think it was very good 4 sumone who hasnt really had any instruction at all.. but with out instuction or proper knowledge u WILL set urslf in bad habits... wen u hit the bag focus on techinque and form. u look like u already hav good punching power so make that secondary 4 a while...

Spartacus Sully
07-26-2009, 02:13 PM
Yeah form is second thought im more so trying to box some one like the bag was an actual person trying for a very broken rythm.

what kind of things should i try to do form wise? right now keeping my right up next to my cheek but would you say keeping inline with the bag would be more important? or is it more about doing certain combos that are allready planed out whiel working on keeping my hands up and inline with the bag? so maybe i should just start with planned combos and once i get them down work on doing them with my hands up and inline with the bag?

Squabbles94806
07-26-2009, 02:15 PM
YES!!! i love watching these videos, it gives me tremendous confidence. Just so i can verify that there are people out there who post their "skills" for everyone to view hitting a bag or shadowboxing, or sparring, or jumping rope. I especially love it when people wear street clothes hitting a punching bag, like they don't expect to sweat. LoL. Nice gloves though. The PAC ones? They're from Japan. Quite expensive.

Good work. I'd like to see more of these videos.

Spartacus Sully
07-26-2009, 02:34 PM
Nah there the cheap title made fighting brand very good gloves though only like 90$ after shipping if you get them through the title guy here.

Street clothes? thats what i wear allways jogging biking hitting the bag i expect to sweat id just rather deal with it and look stylish. but serisouly i only have one sweat wicking shirt and thats dirty.

bagwellchamp1
07-26-2009, 04:48 PM
wen u punch make sure that every punch cums back 2ur chin just as fast as u threw it out. and i was always told 2 pivit wit my power punches.. and a tip wen throwing the jab is to step in as u throw it it will add alot of power and snap if done correctly.. wen u hit the bag go in with a plan and work on specific combos or punches 4 now, like ur hooks i noticed that u drop that hand after u throw it and it could leav u open 4 a counter. also make sure ur on ur toes ur lead foot not so much tho.. after i watch the vid. agian ill give u more help in detail.

Golden-Gloves
07-26-2009, 06:08 PM
I have a question, how are you comfortable working out in a flanel shirt w/ jean pants/shorts?!

1) You need to extend your punches, your throwing punches with only half of your reach and effectiveness.

2) Protect yourself, 7:34 in the video you throw 3 consecutive hooks, and your hands are down. After you throw a hook bring that hand back up to protect your face while you throw the opposite hand, if not, your wide open, someone can block either of those hooks with a brush block (philly shell) and counter you terribly.

3) Try to throw a little bit of footwork in there, if not your just a stationary target, your kinda like hitting a heavy bag, its hard to miss cause you arent goin anywhere!

Other then that, you look strong with a suprising amount of endurance for a beginner, well done, keep up the good work

AKATheMack
07-26-2009, 06:24 PM
Throwing your punches too much from the elbow. Combos look quicker that way, but they have nothing on them.

Spartacus Sully
07-26-2009, 06:47 PM
Thanks for the advice,

really need to work on bringing my right hand back.

see what you mean with the half punches especially from my right. perhaps what reppin means by from the elbow. Im thinking i need to get used to pivoting more when i throw my power punch's.

learned that its possiable to run only on the balls of your feet and wednesday did a hilly 6 mile run like that, not only were my calfs killing me so were the muscles below my calfs and my arches i did alittle footwork in the second round but i relized 2 things, my hand instantly drops and my feet and calfs really hurt

ill make up like 5 5 hit combos and just do for a few rounds mixing them up. perhaps later in the month work them together with slips and side steps

for my right im thinking of just spending at least 1 round throwing rights and concentrate on bring it back properly every day till im more comfortable

also gonna get an everlast timer so i dont have to keep looking at the camera to see when 3 mins i up

that seems like some good things to work on for the next month

thanks again for the advice

#1Assassin
07-26-2009, 07:20 PM
first of all let me say im quite impressed. for someone who hasnt had proper training u are good, talented.

as for what to work on, i dont see your feet, footwork is the key to boxing. u do move around the bag and maintain balance most of the time though so it looks good from what i see. also u think, u dont just whale away like most beginners, u move around the bag and move your head too. your chin is always down and u throw in combinations alot. u dont load up on punches but rather let them flow, very good.

on the bad stuff. u tend to throw a bit too many hooks, u should focus more on straight punches. and the punches u throw are too low, head punches should be thrown at the same height as your own head, u tend to throw at the chest. when u get in the ring and is forced to aim higher u will tire much faster. u also get a bit wide with your punches sometimes, and u dont turn into them correctly. i would like to see more extension on your straight punches, aswell as turning your hips into them more (that goes for hooks too). when watching closer i can tell your footwork is a bit of at times, mainly when it comes to distance, but thats something that takes alot of practise. moving in and out smoothly. its very good that u move your head but your technique when moving your head isnt very good. u bend over too much. imagine the bag is an oponent, u never take your eyes of your oponent. sometimes when u duck u are looking at the floor, if an oponent leaned over and hit u to the body u wouldnt see it, hense u wouldnt brace for it and it would hurt. an uppercut could be devastating.

thats something thats very important, when i just started i used to look away at times in sparring and i was punished for it. sometimes i would try to tuck my chin down so much i didnt see my oponent and what was coming at me.

if u want to compete u have to get a trainer at some point, although i see your dilemma.

Spartacus Sully
07-26-2009, 07:59 PM
Thanks ill definately work on keeping the punches higher

as far as the eyes on the target thats going to take some time but it definately wasnt something i was looking for or even thinking about. thanks

alza1988
07-26-2009, 08:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=expertvillage&view=videos&query=boxing

supRa
07-26-2009, 10:24 PM
better than last time.....

nice gloves...i got thrm fake winnin too

:D

babyboy21687
07-27-2009, 09:20 PM
Pretty good for little training. Try not to turn your back on the bag. If that were another fighter, you just took a big shot to the back of the dome. Overall, good stuff my dude.

We want Floyd
07-28-2009, 02:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5WBSBXLtQY


Started going to a gym stoped after my second class when i realized they were charging me 75$ month for 55 mins of pushups jump squats and sit ups with 5 mins of how to jab from an instructor that shows up 15 mins late regulary or atleast the 2 times i went he was late.

dont go to hatfeild MMA/ boxing gym its its a giant rip off and all they care about is money and being *******'s to their students.

I work night shift 11pm-7am and not only is there nothing closer then 40 mins away other then the place i was going nothing seems to open before 5 and i go to bed at 3. So for about 2 months now as training ive been recording my self every time im on the bag watching it and trying to improve i do about 3 sets of 3 rounds inbeteen each set i watch what i did and try to improve. the video above was my last set yesterday.

im currently working on keeping my right up next to my cheek and once i get that down im going to go for keeping my chin tucked.

opinions advice?2 seconds into the vid I had to click stop, it was hurting my eyes,lol.

Dude, like someone posted, get a trainer or someone w/ experience. I know I couldn't have done it myself when I was just getting started, no way, no how.

Anyway, here's a tip bro. Before you even start hitting the heavybag, here's some steps to follow that leads up to heavy bag work and I'm sure you've heard these steps before. But listen anyway.

First, lets focus on footwork and hand placement.

#1 Find a mirror

#2 Keep your chin down, but not all the way down that you can't see what's in front of you

#3 Hands up
- Hands up in front of you, not to the side of your face
- Elbows to your sides, not out like a chicken gesture

#4 Your stance - Simply take one step forward and that's your stance.

#5 Start skipping in and out, until you get a good feel for it, once you get into a rhythm, start off with the jab, so now, you're rocking forward and back, forward and back in coordination with the jab.

#6 To get an idea on correct punching mechanics and form, simply search it on Yout*be.

#7 Once you've gotten a handle on skippin' and out, go over to the heavybag and do the same exact thing.

#8 Start out with one combination to work on, only when you start to feel comfortable with one, then create another combination.

Spartacus Sully
07-28-2009, 02:46 AM
Thank you.

Been doing the skipping thing for a few mins now, am i supposed to be moving alot or as you said just rocking/shifting my weight from my front foot to my back foot whiel staying on the balls of my feet and being bouncy?

like and i supposed to be stepping in and stepping away?

We want Floyd
07-28-2009, 02:58 AM
Thank you.

Been doing the skipping thing for a few mins now, am i supposed to be moving alot or as you said just rocking/shifting my weight from my front foot to my back foot whiel staying on the balls of my feet and being bouncy?

like and i supposed to be stepping in and stepping away?
Exactly, you've got the idea down pat. But on that video, you looked like a schizo going berserk.

Start out slow, it's like learning a new dance move.

Again, start out rocking back and forth, then add a jab, a double jab, then a triple jab, don't be so concerned with the speed and power of your punches, focus on good technique, the power and speed will come along.

Feel it out, and it'll come to ya. You won't get it down in a day, not in a week, more like between 3-6 months, again, stick with 3-5 combinations. Then start tinkering with head movement, lateral movement, yadda, yadda.

Spartacus Sully
07-28-2009, 03:27 AM
Thanks again.

i really should find a trainer but with constant effort to improve, video to see where i need to improve, and all the excelent advice ive gotten i think i might be able to skip that part till i actually want to start fighting people or atleast for the next few months.

schizo? well thats just how ive been doing it ive noticed definite improvements in power and speed of any one punch not so much with chaining them together in combos though. im going to stick with doing a few rounds like ive been i think one of those rounds is just about as taxing as sparing someone thats gonna help my endurance as well, but most the rounds will be with the skipping and just working the combos in the future. specially for the next video i make in a few months

Equilibrium
07-28-2009, 04:45 AM
To be honest i have seen much much worst posted on here many times.

First of all, most of your punches are arm punches. If you don't plan on joining a gym i would suggest checking out some technique videos on the net, there are plenty that will teach your how to throw your punches properly, but if you do something wrong you won't have anybody to tell you. But hey it's better than nothing.

Secondly, your flailling at the bag. But i don't blame you, i see plenty of guys even in the gym doing that. I would highly recommend treating the bag like a real opponent. What i mean is: Get in range, throw a combo, move back. Circle the bag, use your foot work, keep your hands up, ect. The bag doesn't hit back, but when you do bag work it's a good idea to act like it could.

Lastly, you look like a guy with a decent reach ; use it. Your throw most of your punches like if you were fighting on the inside. While fighting on the inside can be good, you need to work to get in the pocket. Use your range and try learning to hit the bag from different distances.

Hope it helped a little.

Spartacus Sully
07-28-2009, 09:50 AM
should i continue doing the slipping motion i do twords the bag when its swinging at me, can i work that into my combos if it makes sense in the situation? or should i try to just imagine im ducking a punch when nothings there when i slip? like only do it when im side stepping. or work it into combos but just do to the air?

or should i just try all of it?

Squabbles94806
07-28-2009, 09:56 AM
Pretty good for little training. Try not to turn your back on the bag. If that were another fighter, you just took a big shot to the back of the dome. Overall, good stuff my dude.

Uhhh...did you even see the video?

Spartacus Sully
07-28-2009, 10:00 AM
Uhhh...did you even see the video?

Well atleast i know you watched it so,

Thanks

Squabbles94806
07-28-2009, 10:27 AM
Well atleast i know you watched it so,

Thanks

of course i watched it. In fact, i coulda sworn i've seen you post something before.

Tu Pai
07-28-2009, 10:56 AM
I agree you doing better than last time, shorten your punches up, punch from the guard and make sure the non punching hand stays up, elbow in. make sure your in balance when you throw your shots.

Spartacus Sully
07-28-2009, 11:50 AM
of course i watched it. In fact, i coulda sworn i've seen you post something before.

yeah like 4 months ago

JoHnNyBoXeR
07-28-2009, 07:58 PM
YES!!! i love watching these videos, it gives me tremendous confidence. Just so i can verify that there are people out there who post their "skills" for everyone to view hitting a bag or shadowboxing, or sparring, or jumping rope. I especially love it when people wear street clothes hitting a punching bag, like they don't expect to sweat. LoL. Nice gloves though. The PAC ones? They're from Japan. Quite expensive.

Good work. I'd like to see more of these videos.



i dont know why a video like this would give u confidence.. it's not like this guy is going to compete any time soon.. just a guy who is looking for advice on a website..