Discuss.......................

jack dempsey
jim jeffries

bs jim jeffries gets served up quick, louis would beat the **** outta him...

win for sure:
ali, holmes -movement
liston, foreman -power

maybe:
tyson

Louis out skills jeffries but jeffries over powers and out lasts louis

The gap of skills between Jeffries and Louis would be too big, even in his prime he wouldn't have done a lot against Jack Johnson.

Lennox Lewis, Larry Holmes, Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson would all beat Louis. Except Holmes and Ali, they would even stop him.

Oooooooh, Mickey will never forgive me. But prime for prime I think the following would probably beat Louis:

Liston (albeit a very, very tough call. But if Schmelling could do it and if Gallento can knock Louis down.......its a possible)

Ali ( regulars on this section will know I fancy Ali by decision )

Foreman (another tough call, I'd fear for the chin of the much smaller Louis if they actually fought. I'm not super confident here but would shade big George by a KO/TKO).

Larry Holmes (another decision for me, similar to Ali but not quite as emphatic)

Mike Tyson (another tough call but, I just cant pick a peak Louis over a peak Tyson, the man was too fast and powerful for me)

Evander Holyfield (so close, really could go either way. Hard pushed I go with Holyfield by decision)

Riddick Bowe (at his peak this man had everything. Power, speed, amateur heritage, combinations, size and reach. I know his peak was short and as a boxing legend he bares no comparison to Louis. Trouble is.........I cant see Louis beating him)

Lennox Lewis ( Again too big and powerful. Louis does have a chance here though based on his speed, power and because we all know that Lennox is a touch vulnerable around the chin )

Ike Ibeabuchi ( this man clearly has no right in being cited as a winner over the great Joe Louis. Problem is I really think that the guy who turned up to face Tua and Byrd has a really good chance )

Wladimir/Vitali Klitschkco ( Sorry, their only real advantages are in size, reach, weight and power. I just cant see Louis as being big enough to beat them )

I do think that Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Gene Tunney, Rocky Marciano, Joe Frazier, Ken Norton and Chris Byrd give him very tough fights. Some may well beat him but I dont have the confidence to actually favour them.

Oooooooh, Mickey will never forgive me. But prime for prime I think the following would probably beat Louis:

Liston (albeit a very, very tough call. But if Schmelling could do it and if Gallento can knock Louis down.......its a possible)

Ali ( regulars on this section will know I fancy Ali by decision )

Foreman (another tough call, I'd fear for the chin of the much smaller Louis if they actually fought. I'm not super confident here but would shade big George by a KO/TKO).

Larry Holmes (another decision for me, similar to Ali but not quite as emphatic)

Mike Tyson (another tough call but, I just cant pick a peak Louis over a peak Tyson, the man was too fast and powerful for me)

Evander Holyfield (so close, really could go either way. Hard pushed I go with Holyfield by decision)

Riddick Bowe (at his peak this man had everything. Power, speed, amateur heritage, combinations, size and reach. I know his peak was short and as a boxing legend he bares no comparison to Louis. Trouble is.........I cant see Louis beating him)

Lennox Lewis ( Again too big and powerful. Louis does have a chance here though based on his speed, power and because we all know that Lennox is a touch vulnerable around the chin )

Ike Ibeabuchi ( this man clearly has no right in being cited as a winner over the great Joe Louis. Problem is I really think that the guy who turned up to face Tua and Byrd has a really good chance )

Wladimir/Vitali Klitschkco ( Sorry, their only real advantages are in size, reach, weight and power. I just cant see Louis as being big enough to beat them )

I do think that Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Gene Tunney, Rocky Marciano, Joe Frazier, Ken Norton and Chris Byrd give him very tough fights. Some may well beat him but I dont have the confidence to actually favour them.


Louis destroyed plenty of Huge guys. Carnera, Buddy Baer, Abe Simon to name a few. You need more than size just to beat Louis.

Absolutely true Southpaw! I personally think that Lewis, Bowe, Ibeabuchi and either Klitschko are rather better than a post prime Carnera, either version of Abe Simon that fought Louis or Max's brother Buddy Baer. I'm a real Louis fan, my skin crawls when I pick some people to beat him but I honestly feel that my decisions are based on the many fight films I've seen as well as the comparative increases in the sizes of the modern day heavyweight.

Lewis and Bowe are particularly special in my opinion. For all Lewis's lack of punch resistance and Bowe's lack of discipline, at their best these guys were simply superb. I couldn't pick Louis in a head to head with them. Louis's legend and resume is better though.

Foreman And Liston Beat Prime Louis IMO

and Louis said Marciano would beat him in his prime Due to the srouching styel, he said the way Rocky fought was all wrong for him.


Maybe Tyson too.


ROOSTER

In regards to the original question I'll take guys like Ali, Holmes, Tyson over Louis. I think the fast elite heavies would be the ones to cause him trouble and possibly Michael Spinks would give him a good fight, if Billy Conn could then Spinks definatly could.

Jack Johnson was the first to spot Louis' weakness and in a way predicted what would happen when he came up against a Schmeling type of a fighter and he was right. So I'd pick Johnson over him definatly in their first fight. A rematch would be interesting.

I think Louis would do well against guys like Foreman, big slow with wide swinging hooks, Louis would work down the middle with fast powerful combos. Louis is one of the few guys I'd pick to beat a prime George. Wlad doesn't have the chin to last but Vitali might have a chance.

im sticking with jeffries the its all in the crowding crouch and jeffries was the stronger man in controlling the fight

I wondered when this thread was coming lol...
I think it's common knowledge that I'm a big admirer of Louis, & I rate him at no1..
To be honest, there's plenty of HW's capable of upsetting Louis, the 1st time out, but I also believe he'd beat these guys worse in returns, to the point where only Muhummad Ali would qualify for a rubber match..

I'd say the following prime fighters could shock Louis on a bad day, but only the once..

Mike Tyson
Larry Holmes
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
George Foreman
Klitschko's
Riddick Bowe
Joe Frazier
Jack Dempsey
Rocky Marciano
Gene Tunney

Joe would probably need at least 2 fights to gain supremacy over the above..
Tyson & Foreman, to stop him late, with the rest winning by DC..
Louis to win all returns by brutal KO..
But I think he'd need at least 3 to 5 fights in order to overcome Ali..

Here's a list of fighters who don't beat Louis period...

Sullivan
Fitzsimmons
Corbett
Jeffries
Willard
Johnson
Liston
Bruno
McCall
Chagaev
Valuev
Witherspoon
Bonecrusher
Tua
Ikeabeuchi
Spinks

I think Foreman could beat him. Mike Tyson as well, I could just see his movment, speed, and fierceness taking effect.

I'd give Ali, Liston and Lewis a good chance of beating Louis. I would favor Joe, but Foreman has a shot too if he can get him out early. That said, on any given night I think Louis could beat any fighter in history. Jmo.

louis against schmeling in rematch pretty unbeatable, marciano n dempsey would have stood a good chance, ali wins 3 out of 4 maybe

oh ya can any one pls tell me how i start my own thread? i wana raise a question about steve bunce, fanx

Click on boxing forum, then click on Global boxing scene, then click New post.. Plenty of Bunce on Global....

No one with a glass jaw or feather fists beats Louis.

And no one with incredibly ****ty technical skills beats him either.

The guy I believe would be most suited to beat Louis is Jack Johnson.

A very easy question to answer, and a very painfull one for Louis nuthuggers.

Joseph does not do well at all in head to head matchups. Luckily for him greatness is ranked on accomplishments or else he would be way down there. Down like when Schmeling dropped him to the canvas with a right hand and made him quit. But anyway, there are many fighters that would beat him.

For starters I'll start with the Jeffries and Johnson. Johnson for sure would toy with him, spank him like Schmeling. I don't have to mention Schmeling since he already beat a prime Louis. Liston would destroy him, so would Marciano. Walcott and Charles would outslick him with ease. Wait, wait lads. Walcott already beat a prime Joseph as well. Now, Ali. Don't have to elaborate there. Frazier, Lyle, ForeMAN would kill him I suggest. Norton and Young, would beat him on points. Larr Holmes: Same as ALi. Tyson would blow him out quick. Bowe, Holyfield and Lewis beat him.

I think Louis does better against a Shavers or a Leon Spinks, granted he does not get caught. Patterson vs Louis would be a swell fight I reckon, just like Archie Moore.

A very easy question to answer, and a very painfull one for Louis nuthuggers.

Joseph does not do well at all in head to head matchups. Luckily for him greatness is ranked on accomplishments or else he would be way down there. Down like when Schmeling dropped him to the canvas with a right hand and made him quit. But anyway, there are many fighters that would beat him.

For starters I'll start with the Jeffries and Johnson. Johnson for sure would toy with him, spank him like Schmeling. I don't have to mention Schmeling since he already beat a prime Louis. Liston would destroy him, so would Marciano. Walcott and Charles would outslick him with ease. Wait, wait lads. Walcott already beat a prime Joseph as well. Now, Ali. Don't have to elaborate there. Frazier, Lyle, ForeMAN would kill him I suggest. Norton and Young, would beat him on points. Larr Holmes: Same as ALi. Tyson would blow him out quick. Bowe, Holyfield and Lewis beat him.

I think Louis does better against a Shavers or a Leon Spinks, granted he does not get caught. Patterson vs Louis would be a swell fight I reckon, just like Archie Moore.

Very fair analysis there

:rofl: slimey limey is such an idiot

:rofl: slimey limey is such an idiot
I'll second that.. But it is expected..

Muhammad Ali to me. Larry Holmes and even Lennox Lewis I think would've given Louis troubles and might've beaten him.

I think Louis does better against a Shavers or a Leon Spinks, granted he does not get caught. Patterson vs Louis would be a swell fight I reckon, just like Archie Moore.

Wow you mean Louis might just possibly possibly beat someone, obviously assuming they had an off night?

Ali, Holmes, Tyson, Lewis, Foreman, Liston, Bowe.

Those guys for sure.

I don't think Jeffries would do too well against Louis, I actually think his style is pretty much made for Louis.

He was not a traditional swarmer like Frazier and Marciano for example, he would rather wear down his opposition with size and strength much like Abe Simon and Buddy Baer would, although Jeffries was more well-schooled in his approach. He was not really a big knockout puncher either.

Louis would pick him apart with counter punches like Fitzsimmons did, except he wouldn't be worn out and stopped. Fitzsimmons really beat Jeffries into a pulp.

99 or 02 fitzsimmons? though i dont know much about the 2 fights but 8 round ko in 02 looks like jeffries improved since the 11 round ko in 99 also being 167 and 172 might have given him the advange in countering compared to a 200 some odd pound louis who i dont think would have been able to miss as many punches with a chance to counter as fitz.

not really a knock out puncher? fastest heavy weight title defense in history 55 seconds?

jeffries even said himself he never hit a man as hard as he could for fear of killing him

99 or 02 fitzsimmons? though i dont know much about the 2 fights but 8 round ko in 02 looks like jeffries improved since the 11 round ko in 99 also being 167 and 172 might have given him the advange in countering compared to a 200 some odd pound louis who i dont think would have been able to miss as many punches with a chance to counter as fitz.

not really a knock out puncher? fastest heavy weight title defense in history 55 seconds?

jeffries even said himself he never hit a man as hard as he could for fear of killing him

Jeffries really wasn't a huge puncher.

He scored a first round knockout over Jack Finnegan, but Finnegan was probably the worst heavyweight title challenger of all time. It usually took him many rounds to get rid of his opposition. He hit Tom Sharkey with everything in the 45 rounds that they fought against each other and yet was never able to knock him out. Fitzsimmons on the other hand knocked out Sharkey in two rounds.

It was actually the second fight with an older, 39 year old Fitzsimmons in which he was beaten badly.

"Robert Fitzsimmons has forfeited his last claim upon the heavyweight championship of the world. He stood off James J. Jeffries for eight rounds, and before receiving his quietus had astonished the thousands of spectators by his brilliant work. As early as the second round Fitzsimmons had Jeffries bleeding profusely from mouth and nose. Again and again he landed on his bulky opponent, getting away in such a clever manner that he roused the big crowd to enthusiastic cheering. It seemed indeed that Jeffries could scarcely stand the pace. But the 8th round came and after a series of hot exchanges Fitzsimmons paused with his guard down and spoke to the champion. The latter's reply was two terrific blows that saved him the championship." -The Mansfield News

"If a non-spectator had seen Jeffries and Fitzsimmons two minutes after the fight Fitz would have been picked the winner. There was not a mark on him, while Jeffries face was bloody and beaten to a pulp. Only Jeffries' stamina and capacity for punishment saved him." -George Siler, noted referee and writer

Congrats youve persuaded me against jeffries in this fight but im still sticking with dempsey

Walcott already beat a prime Joseph as well.

I agree Walcott won the fight but he wasn't prime was he?
So nearly got something right then just snatched it away again.
Thats where you go wrong you get so carried away with this Louis hate you rant rather than make sensible posts.
Still guess thats why you abuse the privilage of being a cunt I suppose.

The gap of skills between Jeffries and Louis would be too big, even in his prime he wouldn't have done a lot against Jack Johnson.

Lennox Lewis, Larry Holmes, Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson would all beat Louis. Except Holmes and Ali, they would even stop him.Ali would beat him, Louis would beat the rest

Ali would beat him, Louis would beat the rest
I agree with you, but the other way round lol...

I agree Walcott won the fight but he wasn't prime was he?
So nearly got something right then just snatched it away again.
Thats where you go wrong you get so carried away with this Louis hate you rant rather than make sensible posts.
Still guess thats why you abuse the privilage of being a cunt I suppose.
I've just blown my spleen with laughter!

I agree Walcott won the fight but he wasn't prime was he?
So nearly got something right then just snatched it away again.
Thats where you go wrong you get so carried away with this Louis hate you rant rather than make sensible posts.
Still guess thats why you abuse the privilage of being a cunt I suppose.

Wow now, we got a NEW GJC. Ladies and lads he has become a tough guy now who uses bad words and is confrontational.

Now, to absolutely wreck your little nitpicking post yet again, what is your point? The fact that you say Walcott wasn't prime only discredits your hero even more. Get your head in the game mate.

And if somehow you meant Louis wasn't in his prime, that is a disgusting excuse just like him not being prime against Schmeling the first time. But of cource, if it's Joseph the great bumbeater it's ok. He never lost in his prime and would have beaten every fighter in history. The same wife beater who got his arse kicked by a Light Heavyweight, was outslicked or KO'd by any great fighter he faced, was knocked down and made to do the chicken dance by BUMS etc.

I see you lads still live in a fantasy world. Don't worry, I won't take away your crystal meth.

I've just blown my spleen with laughter!

Honestly, would you have even felt a diffirence with all that lard covering your organs?

Wow now, we got a NEW GJC. Ladies and lads he has become a tough guy now who uses bad words and is confrontational.

Now, to absolutely wreck your little nitpicking post yet again, what is your point? The fact that you say Walcott wasn't prime only discredits your hero even more. Get your head in the game mate.

And if somehow you meant Louis wasn't in his prime, that is a disgusting excuse just like him not being prime against Schmeling the first time. But of cource, if it's Joseph the great bumbeater it's ok. He never lost in his prime and would have beaten every fighter in history. The same wife beater who got his arse kicked by a Light Heavyweight, was outslicked or KO'd by any great fighter he faced, was knocked down and made to do the chicken dance by BUMS etc.

I see you lads still live in a fantasy world. Don't worry, I won't take away your crystal meth.
Should I type slower so you understand. Louis wasn't prime. Louis was prime for 1st Schmelling fight and lost fair and square past his best by Walcott. Re the NEW me don't worry its just for you as I think you were having trouble understanding anyone speaking sensibly to you.

Should I type slower so you understand. Louis wasn't prime. Louis was prime for 1st Schmelling fight and lost fair and square past his best by Walcott. Re the NEW me don't worry its just for you as I think you were having trouble understanding anyone speaking sensibly to you.

The NEW GJC again ladies and lads. Aren't you just impressed by his new demeanor? What an impressive change of personality.

It doesn't matter how you type, you suck arse at explaining your opinion. You need to reword your posts after you type them, mate.
Now, progress here. I got you admitting Joseph was prime vs Schmeling.

Louis had won his last 15 fights by stoppage and was 33 years old himself. He wasn't past his prime and you know it. Walcott MADE him look bad because he was the better fighter and Louis was simply overrated.

There is 2 fighters who beat a prime Louis. There are many fighters who are better than both of them so that is why Joseph Louis would lose against everybody.

The NEW GJC again ladies and lads. Aren't you just impressed by his new demeanor? What an impressive change of personality.

It doesn't matter how you type, you suck arse at explaining your opinion. You need to reword your posts after you type them, mate.
Now, progress here. I got you admitting Joseph was prime vs Schmeling.

Louis had won his last 15 fights by stoppage and was 33 years old himself. He wasn't past his prime and you know it. Walcott MADE him look bad because he was the better fighter and Louis was simply overrated.

There is 2 fighters who beat a prime Louis. There are many fighters who are better than both of them so that is why Joseph Louis would lose against everybody.
Find me one post where I said that Louis was not prime against Schmelling others have but not me, I know you lump everyone who doesn't agree with you in the same box.
Very creative with your facts, the 15 fights you mention were over the previous 7 years no? A little thing called the 2nd world war got in the way Louis after the war was not the same fighter as he was before it.
Talking of admitting things you now say Louis would lose to everybody?

Ali, Foreman and most likely the Klitscho's

Fighters that would beat Joe Louis.......

Muhammad Ali
Larry Holmes
Sonny Liston
George Forman

Find me one post where I said that Louis was not prime against Schmelling others have but not me, I know you lump everyone who doesn't agree with you in the same box.
Very creative with your facts, the 15 fights you mention were over the previous 7 years no? A little thing called the 2nd world war got in the way Louis after the war was not the same fighter as he was before it.
Talking of admitting things you now say Louis would lose to everybody?

I don't need to find a post, you're all the same with the same attitude.

He was just 33 years old and did not show any signs of slipping before the 2 year lay off. He basicely KO'd 2 more lads before facing Walcott, not to mention he KO'd Walcott in a rematch. so all you lads are doing is discrediting Walcott and making excuses for bumbeater.

And yes he would lose to pretty much all the ATG HW's of the top 10. But you of cource being the dramatic cunt that you are take that comment as a stab to the heart and are thinking I said Louis would lose to every single human being in the history of the planet who ever picked up a pair of gloves. Are you mad?

I don't need to find a post, you're all the same with the same attitude.

Couldn't eh, shame.


But you of cource being the dramatic cunt that you are take that comment as a stab to the heart and are thinking I said Louis would lose to every single human being in the history of the planet who ever picked up a pair of gloves. Are you mad?
No I'm not mad but give you a tip I wouldn't show any of your posts to the men in the white coats if I was you. They will take your PC off you and give you a green crayon and we will all miss you on here.

I don't need to find a post, you're all the same with the same attitude.

He was just 33 years old and did not show any signs of slipping before the 2 year lay off. He basicely KO'd 2 more lads before facing Walcott, not to mention he KO'd Walcott in a rematch. so all you lads are doing is discrediting Walcott and making excuses for bumbeater.

And yes he would lose to pretty much all the ATG HW's of the top 10. But you of cource being the dramatic cunt that you are take that comment as a stab to the heart and are thinking I said Louis would lose to every single human being in the history of the planet who ever picked up a pair of gloves. Are you mad?

Louis was past his prime when he fought Walcott. He knew it as well which is why he RETIRED after Walcott {II} if I'm not mistaken.
Louis wasn't the same exact fighter after the War. Even Billy Conn who Louis rematched wasn't the same.


If you can't see the difference in Louis from different years he fought, then you are hopeless.

Louis was past his prime when he fought Walcott. He knew it as well which is why he RETIRED after Walcott {II} if I'm not mistaken.
Louis wasn't the same exact fighter after the War. Even Billy Conn who Louis rematched wasn't the same.


If you can't see the difference in Louis from different years he fought, then you are hopeless.
You can't have a rational conversation with him Benny give up

Foreman And Liston Beat Prime Louis IMO

and Louis said Marciano would beat him in his prime Due to the srouching styel, he said the way Rocky fought was all wrong for him.
Maybe Tyson too.


ROOSTER

You mean "crouching" style?

One of the fights I've heard mentioned about why Marciano would trouble a Prime Joe Louis was his fight with Godoy. Godoy gave Louis fits even though Louis won the fight.

The other thing was that people say that Louis said he didn't like to be "crowded," but how many boxers like to be crowded?
And even if Louis didn't like to be crowded, it didn't mean he didn't know how to deal with it as you will see in the rematch with Godoy down below as well as other fights he had.


Here is the first Godoy fight where Godoy troubles Louis:

Also note that Godoy was bigger than Rocky...

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Now I don't have the full fight of the rematch since it isn't up on Youtube but you can find it online for download if you google it. I just don't know how safe certain links are. Maybe I can ask around in the request section.

This is basically the sum of it:

Louis adapts

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Rocky's best shot at defeating Louis would be in the first match.

You can't have a rational conversation with him Benny give up

I know but I like to do it for any other newbie posters that comes on board with the discussion or may be viewing it.

As we saw the fight between Marciano and Louis
Even when some people say that Louis wasnt in his prime
the way Marciano knocked him out
I can actually say that Marciano can still knock Louis out even in his prime
..........
If Ali fought Louis in his prime
I'm not sure if Ali could defeat Louis
as Louis is ranked #1 in the ring magazine
as the greatest puncher of all times
and Ali's style his gloves are always down and he stays on the ropes
so i think that Louis would beat him
..........
Tyson vs Louis
Louis is a hard puncher
and so is Tyson
and we should consider that Tyson is a skilled and fast boxer too
and the power of his punch is also impressive
I think that Tyson would have a shot at defeating Louis
I think but im not sure
but
Tyson vs Louis
It would be a fight worth watching
..........
Foreman vs Louis
Ali knocked out Foreman
and i dont think that Ali would defeat Louis
so i think that Louis would defeat Foreman
..........
Lets not forget the fact that Max Schmeling knocked out Louis in his prime
.........
that's what i got
and its just my opinion
it doesnt have to be right
all you people dont have to agree with me
its just an opinion

peace :boxing:

As we saw the fight between Marciano and Louis
Even when some people say that Louis wasnt in his prime
the way Marciano knocked him out
I can actually say that Marciano can still knock Louis out even in his prime
peace :boxing:


The difference though is that Louis's reaction time was slowed as well as his spark for fighting. When you are past your prime, punch resistance can be down, reaction time can be down, adrenaline may not be pumping nearly as high which helps you absorb punches as well as react to the punches, and chin may be declined. I use "may" to allow for room in how much.

We've seen fighters go down and out when they are past their prime when in their younger years they may not have. It happens with age.

Besides youth being on your side in your "prime years," the "want" to fight prepares you to take those punches and keep going. The Mind is a powerful thing and if you don't want to be in there, don't want to get hurt, chances are, you will be hurt and taken out.

Prime is both Mental and Physical...two things you need working at a high level to be at your best and to be in your Prime.


I'm not saying Marciano doesn't have the power to do it but what I am saying is that it was a different Joe Louis in there both Mentally and Physically. He retired right after which would be the second time in his career.

I would like see a 37 year old Rocky Marciano against a prime Sonny Liston.

I like joe louis but boxing was really in the ****ter when he was fighting. After Gene Tunney's retirement heavyweight boxing really started to suck ass for some reason. Usually integration has an overwhelmingly positive effect on the level of competition in a sport, but there were other important factors. I'm not sure he wouldn't have gotten outmaneuvered by some old timers, outgunned by some of the recent heavyweights, and beaten by some of the obvious greats.

That said I might be totally wrong. Joe Louis was a great fighter.

Couldn't eh, shame.


No I'm not mad but give you a tip I wouldn't show any of your posts to the men in the white coats if I was you. They will take your PC off you and give you a green crayon and we will all miss you on here.

I'm pretty sure you also think Louis is the #1 HW ever. I haven't seen a post of yours saying exactly that, but there is no doubt this is what you believe in seeing as how you are a typical Louis nuthugger.

Nice to see you ignored every single thing boxing related, because once I again you have been schooled and made to shut up.

I'm pretty sure you also think Louis is the #1 HW ever. I haven't seen a post of yours saying exactly that, but there is no doubt this is what you believe in seeing as how you are a typical Louis nuthugger.

Nice to see you ignored every single thing boxing related, because once I again you have been schooled and made to shut up.
Hello Poopmans****sucker!... How are WE today?... Still licking our 'We only respect strength & power' badges, are we?... Or is it.. You've both been barred from the local pub for being small spending Harry Enfield characters?..

Hello Poopmans****sucker!... How are WE today?... Still licking our 'We only respect strength & power' badges, are we?... Or is it.. You've both been barred from the local pub for being small spending Harry Enfield characters?..

Compeling argument. That is so knowledgable and boxing related, I wouldn't know how to give a counter argument, mate.

And you cunts have the nerve to call me a troll. That's a trolling post If I've ever seen one. I noticed it faster than you getting ready to get your kneepads to please the Louis nuthuggers.

Compeling argument. That is so knowledgable and boxing related, I wouldn't know how to give a counter argument, mate.

And you cunts have the nerve to call me a troll. That's a trolling post If I've ever seen one. I noticed it faster than you getting ready to get your kneepads to please the Louis nuthuggers.
The serious talking finished when the kipper was fried.. (2 faces no guts)

Ali
Forman
Liston
Holmes

Ohhhhh.....Maybe even Gene Tunney.

I'm pretty sure you also think Louis is the #1 HW ever. I haven't seen a post of yours saying exactly that, but there is no doubt this is what you believe in seeing as how you are a typical Louis nuthugger.

And I'm pretty sure you're wrong, I'm an absolute expert on what I think and I have Ali as the number 1 HW. Thats probably why you haven't seen a post as there isn't one


Nice to see you ignored every single thing boxing related, because once I again you have been schooled and made to shut up.
No only didn't answer as had better things to do than answer one of your rants, think I was defluffing my navel. As for being schooled I don't know everything, just more than you it seems. You need to go to school to school.

There are many fighters who are better than both of them so that is why Joseph Louis would lose against everybody.
Clear?

But you of cource being the dramatic cunt that you are take that comment as a stab to the heart and are thinking I said Louis would lose to every single human being in the history of the planet who ever picked up a pair of gloves.
Or not?


It doesn't matter how you type, you suck arse at explaining your opinion. You need to reword your posts after you type them, mate.

Tip of the day

Compeling argument. That is so knowledgable and boxing related, I wouldn't know how to give a counter argument, mate.

The wit of slimey but people should stick to boxing in a boxing forum not insult

The same wife beater who got his arse kicked by a Light Heavyweight, was outslicked or KO'd by any great fighter he faced, was knocked down and made to do the chicken dance by BUMS etc.

Unless its slimey of course.

Wow now, we got a NEW GJC. Ladies and lads he has become a tough guy now who uses bad words and is confrontational.

Not really if you knew me as well as you believe you do you'd know I've always been irritated by cunts, just always been lucky and avoided them, until now :)

Hello Poopmans****sucker!... How are WE today?... Still licking our 'We only respect strength & power' badges, are we?... Or is it.. You've both been barred from the local pub for being small spending Harry Enfield characters?..


Malone you glass jawed bum,I'm still waiting for your proof that I am an alt.baseless accusations don't wash here fella.You seem so certain that I am an alt,That you have no problem doing so on a public forum,certainly such confidence would hold atleast the slightest of evidence?

now keep running,I hear the pitter patter footsteps of the old bitter bully boy posters coming to get you,Keep your defence up and don't bend over so willingly

And I'm pretty sure you're wrong, I'm an absolute expert on what I think and I have Ali as the number 1 HW.

Right after I corrected you and made you see your shallow nuthugging ways. I have humbled many Louis nuthuggers when it comes to ranking him. The Slimey one deserves full credit.


No only didn't answer as had better things to do than answer one of your rants, think I was defluffing my navel. As for being schooled I don't know everything, just more than you it seems. You need to go to school to school

Well mate, you probably would have fared better not answering at all instead of coming back with these feeble attempts. I need to go to school TO school? Maybe you should stop speaking nonsense speaking nonsense:luvbed:


Not really if you knew me as well as you believe you do you'd know I've always been irritated by cunts, just always been lucky and avoided them, until now :)

Oh really lad. I remember the first time we talked. Your posts were very calm and not name calling. Now you can't take the abuse anymore, and show that I have gotten to you badly. You're out of character here lad, the Slimey one has gotten to your heart.

Now, care to go back to the boxing related discussion lad? You know, the one you were schooled in and had to resort to childish terribly constructed flames?

Who beats Joe Louis?

Ali
Forman
Frazier
Liston

And maybe Tunney.

Who beats Joe Louis?

Ali
Forman
Frazier
Liston

And maybe Tunney.
Not sure about Tunney but the others have a shot

Not sure about Tunney but the others have a shot

We all know Tunney was a great scientific boxer with good footwork.

But what is not mentioned is his toughness.The pounding he took from Harry Greb was brutal,but Tunney fought on.Of course Tunney came back to spank Greb many times.

I believe Tunney was the greatest LH that ever lived.Bigger and better than Conn.

Not sure about Tunney but the others have a shot

Matter of fact, I actually think Tunney would beat Louis. He would box his ears off and the size disadvantage would be no problem as seen in Conn-Louis. Yeah, I think Tunney would pull it off in a masterfull display of boxing.

Right after I corrected you and made you see your shallow nuthugging ways. I have humbled many Louis nuthuggers when it comes to ranking him. The Slimey one deserves full credit.

Tell you what Slimey if you can find one post of mine where I say Louis was the no.1 HW of all time i'll suck your **** in the middle of Oxford Street.

Oh really lad. I remember the first time we talked. Your posts were very calm and not name calling. Now you can't take the abuse anymore, and show that I have gotten to you badly. You're out of character here lad, the Slimey one has gotten to your heart.

We never talked Slimey you ranted and I ignored you. Just you talk more bollocks now as you are running low on medication I assume.

Now, care to go back to the boxing related discussion lad? You know, the one you were schooled in and had to resort to childish terribly constructed flames?
Where do you get this "schooled in" Slimey? In your dreams old son, I don't profess to know as much as some but there is nothing you have said that could possibly be called educational.
But I'm up for going back to a boxing related discussion.
Tell you what, run that theory past me again where Rocky didn't get knocked down by Archie Moore now that was something I never knew!

Matter of fact, I actually think Tunney would beat Louis. He would box his ears off and the size disadvantage would be no problem as seen in Conn-Louis. Yeah, I think Tunney would pull it off in a masterfull display of boxing.
Slimey you think Gene Kelly would beat Louis so no suprise there.

Well mate, you probably would have fared better not answering at all instead of coming back with these feeble attempts. I need to go to school TO school? Maybe you should stop speaking nonsense speaking nonsense:luvbed:

Well done you spotted a typo let me give you the clap you richely deserve.

Come on guys......Lets talk boxing.

Ali
Forman
Liston
Holmes

And maybe Tunney.Great boxer with good footwork,and 20lbs more than Conn

Come on guys......Lets talk boxing.

Ali
Forman
Liston
Holmes

And maybe Tunney.Great boxer with good footwork,and 20lbs more than Conn
No you have a good point with Tunney I too rate him a better LHW than Conn but I still would favour Louis. Problem with Tunney is he had so few fights at HW he is difficult to judge. He was impressive against Dempsey but it was a diminished Dempsey, prime against prime is a different matter.

No you have a good point with Tunney I too rate him a better LHW than Conn but I still would favour Louis. Problem with Tunney is he had so few fights at HW he is difficult to judge. He was impressive against Dempsey but it was a diminished Dempsey, prime against prime is a different matter.

I also think that had Louis caught Tunney like Dempsey caught him, Louis would have finished him off.

Tell you what Slimey if you can find one post of mine where I say Louis was the no.1 HW of all time i'll suck your **** in the middle of Oxford Street.

Ladies and lads, GCJ has now gone from opening up, to opening up to sexual advances. You are quite the filthy lad aren't ya.

I'm not interested, for the record.

We never talked Slimey you ranted and I ignored you. Just you talk more bollocks now as you are running low on medication I assume.

Me medication? You seem to be the one suffering from some sort of side affects, as I can see your memory doesn't serve you well right now.

We definitely talked before, remember when you kept begging me to tell you which fighters would lose to Joe Louis? Surely there must be something ringing there mate.

Where do you get this "schooled in" Slimey? In your dreams old son, I don't profess to know as much as some but there is nothing you have said that could possibly be called educational.
But I'm up for going back to a boxing related discussion.
Tell you what, run that theory past me again where Rocky didn't get knocked down by Archie Moore now that was something I never knew!

Yes you were schooled here because I, as usual, concentrated strictly on Boxing. You gave up on that a page earlier, and were more interested in a flame war, which you are losing as well. You can't win lad, but don't start lieing now.

And yes Rocky suffered an off balance flash KD, which I have proven with a picture that clearly shows one foot off the canvas right before the punch. No questions asked.

Come on guys......Lets talk boxing.

Ali
Forman
Liston
Holmes

And maybe Tunney.Great boxer with good footwork,and 20lbs more than Conn

You are a polite lad, but because you are not a typical Louis nuthigger you will soon be accused of being an alt of mine.

I also think that had Louis caught Tunney like Dempsey caught him, Louis would have finished him off.
Agreed, I think I prime Dempsey would have too

Ladies and lads, GCJ has now gone from opening up, to opening up to sexual advances. You are quite the filthy lad aren't ya.

I'm not interested, for the record.

No you are quite safe Slimey but find that post and a forfeit of your choice is yours.


Me medication? You seem to be the one suffering from some sort of side affects, as I can see your memory doesn't serve you well right now.

We definitely talked before, remember when you kept begging me to tell you which fighters would lose to Joe Louis? Surely there must be something ringing there mate.

Remember it clearly, I didn't "beg" you Slimey think your mind is going there. I asked you as the ring historian you are to name me some fighters Louis would beat. As you have a psychotic hatred of Louis and even though you just like to stick to boxing you couldn't bring yourself to do it. That the conversation?

Yes you were schooled here because I, as usual, concentrated strictly on Boxing. You gave up on that a page earlier, and were more interested in a flame war, which you are losing as well. You can't win lad, but don't start lieing now.

Show me where I was schooled? Concentrating on Boxing is consistantly saying someone is a wife beater is it? Lying has a y in it BTW

And yes Rocky suffered an off balance flash KD, which I have proven with a picture that clearly shows one foot off the canvas right before the punch. No questions asked.
He got knocked down, live with it. He was a tough guy and got up in a second but he was knocked down.

Marciano supposedly said to Lou Duva that the right hand Moore dropped him with was the "hardest right hand I ever got hit with."

No you are quite safe Slimey but find that post and a forfeit of your choice is yours..

Back to begging again eh lad? I'm not searching for any of your garbage posts lad. I have to put up with you infesting this section as it is, so don't tell me to find proof of you being a Louis nuthugger because that is already quite obvious.

Now, beg me again to find a post of you saying that, mate.


Remember it clearly, I didn't "beg" you Slimey think your mind is going there. I asked you as the ring historian you are to name me some fighters Louis would beat. As you have a psychotic hatred of Louis and even though you just like to stick to boxing you couldn't bring yourself to do it. That the conversation?

And I told you I would not give you that satisfaction, because I was smart enough to know you would get off on it.

And like I said before: Hate? :bottle:
I bring balance. Louis is worshipped here 24/7. Too bad I'm not gonna be a part of that.

Show me where I was schooled? Concentrating on Boxing is consistantly saying someone is a wife beater is it? Lying has a y in it BTW

You can't read can ya mate? I said the previous pages you will see the 2 of us in a heated discussion about BOXING. At one point you completely abandon that and are too angry, so you resulted to a petty flame war. And yes, I'm schooling you in this aspect as well.

Now, since i'm not going to partake into this soon to become Marciano bashing thread, I'll stick to the topic.

Louis would get destroyed by Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Lewis, Bowe, Marciano, Frazier, Liston, Johnson and many others.

[QUOTE=0Rooster4Life0;5758240][COLOR="DarkRed"]Foreman And Liston Beat Prime Louis IMO

and Louis said Marciano would beat him in his prime Due to the srouching styel, he said the way Rocky fought was all wrong for him.
Maybe Tyson too.



[B]I've never heard anything about Louis saying Marciano would have always beaten him. Certainly not in his book.In fact he said the opposite. Source please.

I don't think Jeffries would do too well against Louis, I actually think his style is pretty much made for Louis.

He was not a traditional swarmer like Frazier and Marciano for example, he would rather wear down his opposition with size and strength much like Abe Simon and Buddy Baer would, although Jeffries was more well-schooled in his approach. He was not really a big knockout puncher either.

Louis would pick him apart with counter punches like Fitzsimmons did, except he wouldn't be worn out and stopped. Fitzsimmons really beat Jeffries into a pulp.

Yes. That is something that many people forget. And Fitzsimmons was very small for a heavyweight. Jeffries biggest career wins are over much smaller fighters.

Back to begging again eh lad? I'm not searching for any of your garbage posts lad. I have to put up with you infesting this section as it is, so don't tell me to find proof of you being a Louis nuthugger because that is already quite obvious.

Now, beg me again to find a post of you saying that, mate.


I know you arn't particularily bright but do you know the definition of the word to beg? It isn't asking now is it, have someone explain it to you.
No luck finding it then? :) You know why you can't find it don't you?


And I told you I would not give you that satisfaction, because I was smart enough to know you would get off on it.

And like I said before: Hate? :bottle:
I bring balance. Louis is worshipped here 24/7. Too bad I'm not gonna be a part of that.


No because you hate Louis so much it would stick in your throat. You are unbalanced so you can't bring balance can you? Its an oxymoron. Get someone to explain that word to you along with Begging and Balance. p.s. its not simply you with oxy on the front.


You can't read can ya mate? I said the previous pages you will see the 2 of us in a heated discussion about BOXING. At one point you completely abandon that and are too angry, so you resulted to a petty flame war. And yes, I'm schooling you in this aspect as well.

Don't remember abandoning any discussion on boxing, you sure this isn't one of my imaginary posts only you can see? Get the warder or whoever looks after you to explain the word schooling too.



Louis would get destroyed by Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Lewis, Bowe, Marciano, Frazier, Liston, Johnson and many others.

Come on Slimey you can do better than thatname those many others get it off your chest and make a complete arse of yourself.

So your homework is
1) Find that post or at least have a good try lol
2) Find out and understand what those words mean.
3) The fun part for you name those many fighters Louis would lose to you've said Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Lewis, Bowe, Marciano, Frazier, Liston, Johnson. So many more must be a least another 20, i'll help you you said Tunney too, keep up.

I know you arn't particularily bright but do you know the definition of the word to beg? It isn't asking now is it, have someone explain it to you.
No luck finding it then? :) You know why you can't find it don't you?.

Sure mate, it is also when a lad is asking me the same thing over and over again. If you're not begging you're obsessing which isn't a very charming trait either innit? So either way you need to work this out.

How can I not find it when I'm not looking for anything? Do you honestly think I would waste a second looking for your posts in threads I don't know of, mate? I'm not like you lads to spend more than a few seconds on something petty like this.

Now, beg me again to find a post of yours.


No because you hate Louis so much it would stick in your throat. You are unbalanced so you can't bring balance can you? Its an oxymoron. Get someone to explain that word to you along with Begging and Balance. p.s. its not simply you with oxy on the front.

Aww I hate Louis soooooo much? :bottle: Here ya go lad.
Now, I'll just have to repeat myself again: I told you I would not give you that satisfaction, because I was smart enough to know you would get off on it.
As far as you giving me a grammar lesson, don't make me laugh. You told me to go to school TO school. So i'm not going to listen TO LISTEN to you mate.

Now beg me again to name some fighters that would lose to Louis.:luvbed:

Don't remember abandoning any discussion on boxing, you sure this isn't one of my imaginary posts only you can see? Get the warder or whoever looks after you to explain the word schooling too.

Tell ya what, if you beg to me right now to find the post of you abandoning the boxing discussion to try out a flame war, I might actually do that since it's just in the last 2 pages somewhere. 1 second work, mate.

So your homework is
1) Find that post or at least have a good try lol
2) Find out and understand what those words mean.
3) The fun part for you name those many fighters Louis would lose to you've said Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Lewis, Bowe, Marciano, Frazier, Liston, Johnson. So many more must be a least another 20, i'll help you you said Tunney too, keep up

I actually mentioned a few more earlier in this thread, you know, the earlier part when I schooled you on anything boxing related and you went on a flame war in anger.

They're all there mate, just read this thread again.
I'll await your epic answer.

No I'm bored with you now. You schooled me on this you know I said this and that zZzzzz. I ask you to produce proof but of course you can't because you are full of ****.