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“I would love to fight Mayweather, just because of the simple fact that I think he’s a ****y ******* … I’m not a white person, and I will smash his ass. I don’t care. His style of boxing is all built on getting people in the clinch. He’ll hit them, and then he’ll get in the clinch with them. Then the referee breaks them, and he’ll hit them and grab them again. I think it’s a great strategy. It’s not clean boxing, but it’s smart boxing. He’s going to hit somebody and grab them in MMA, and he’ll be done for. They’ll take him down. That’ll be all. I’ll be on top of the list to fight him.”

Money would definitely easily get submitted.

i dont think thats how he fights at all really...

love to see the fight anyway.

Go torres :boxing:

In a boxing match, Mayweather would KO Torres in under 3 rounds.

i dont think thats how he fights at all really...

I agree. Mayweather is master at counter punching and rolling his shoulders. I think that Torres is basing his opinion of Money's style on the Hatton fight, in which Mayweather was having fun owning Hatton at his own game.

He'd still get taken down and submitted by Torres though.

i dont think thats how he fights at all really...

I agree. He has his style confused me thinks.

Either way Torres could beat Mayweather by pretty much anything he wants in an MMA competition.

Why did he feel the need to say 'Im not White' lol

Was that directed towards Mr.Mayweathers recent comments?

In a boxing match, Mayweather would KO Torres in under 3 rounds.

More like in under 30 seconds. Clearly, he's not talking about boxing.

i dont think thats how he fights at all really...

agreed. shows how little ppl from mma know about boxing. i mean even top fighters cant break down someones style. floyd would bust his ass.

If floyd caught him on the way in..Floyd aint a big puncher either..
The minute even a standing clinch gwaans Floyd is in trouble

this fight would resemble ray mercer vs tim sylvia

I expect a lot of White boys to respond to this ****.

Don't get me wrong I'm a blackman that thinks the all american white boy is the ****.

Hendo, Franklin, Fitch.

I expect a lot of White boys to respond to this ****.

i would also. I loved it when mayweather said "you just can't get a couple tattoos and piercings and then call yourself a fighter. Boxing takes skills..." fcuking brilliant

this fight would resemble ray mercer vs tim sylvia

i would also. I loved it when mayweather said "you just can't get a couple tattoos and piercings and then call yourself a fighter. Boxing takes skills..." fcuking brilliant

I expect a lot of White boys to respond to this ****.

Don't get me wrong I'm a blackman that thinks the all american white boy is the ****.

Hendo, Franklin, Fitch.

You guys are delusional.

This fight would end similar to this

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I'm sure all MMA takes is a few tattoos and piercings. ****ing Idiots.

Unlike Sylvia, Torres knows how to throw a punch.

i would also. I loved it when mayweather said "you just can't get a couple tattoos and piercings and then call yourself a fighter. Boxing takes skills..." fcuking brilliant

Look at the HW records on the new TUF. I don't think 4 of those guys have more than 3 pro fights. They really do come in off the street.

Even Randy's record sucks. Although he gave some top dudes a beat down I don't see how he got the fights with his record

Look at the HW records on the new TUF. I don't think 4 of those guys have more than 3 pro fights. They really do come in off the street.

Even Randy's record sucks. Although he gave some top dudes a beat down I don't see how he got the fights with his record

The purpose of TUF is to bring in fighters that are still "green" what would be the point of bringing in fighters with ridiculous amounts of experience?

Randy's record doesn't look impressive on paper but at his age he's beaten a ton of good fighters. This isn't like boxing where you can go on a 20-30 fight win streak fighting scrubs.

The purpose of TUF is to bring in fighters that are still "green" what would be the point of bringing in fighters with ridiculous amounts of experience?

Randy's record doesn't look impressive on paper but at his age he's beaten a ton of good fighters. This isn't like boxing where you can go on a 20-30 fight win streak fighting scrubs.

Matt Hughes 43-7
Wanderlei Silva 32-10
Dan Henderson 25-7
Rampage 30-7
Liddel 21-7
Clemente 33-15-1
Anderson Silva 24-4
Sean Sherk 33-4-1
Fedor 30-0-1

Almost forgot Miguel Torres 37-1-0

I could go on

Matt Hughes 43-7
Wanderlei Silva 32-10
Dan Henderson 25-7
Rampage 30-7
Liddel 21-7
Clemente 33-15-1
Anderson Silva 24-4
Sean Sherk 33-4-1
Fedor 30-0-1

I could go on

Go on about what? How you know nothing about that which you are speaking on?

Look at their records and look at how many good fighters they've fought and then look a the average boxer with a impressive record and count how many of them that are actually good fighters and are actually still around...?

Torrres would ****ing smash his face in

I'm starting to actually like Torres now. He would undoubtly beat Mayweather's ass. 10 second KO, Torres would Mike Swick that ass.

More like in under 30 seconds. Clearly, he's not talking about boxing.

No. Why would Torres a professional fighter be KO'd in 30 secs boxing with 8-10oz gloves on, by a guy who normally drags fights into late rounds? :nonono:

this fight would resemble ray mercer vs tim sylvia

I dont even see how you can compare Tim Sylvia to anyone. Sylvia is just plain trash when standing up. I actually dont even know how he did what he did in the UFC. Because honestly, a style like that deserves a KTFO.

this fight would resemble ray mercer vs tim sylvia

I think that it would resemble Kimbo vs Mercer.

what the hell is torres talkin about. thats not how floyd fights

Go on about what? How you know nothing about that which you are speaking on?

Look at their records and look at how many good fighters they've fought and then look a the average boxer with a impressive record and count how many of them that are actually good fighters and are actually still around...?

I know nothing about MMA ?

Fact is Randy's record sucks. When you get into details he's the man though.
To say pro boxers fight a bunch of nobodies is pretty ignorant considering that there are probably 100 pro MMA fighters.

Take 200 boxers and exclude everybody else an those nobodies are super stars with records like 16-8....lol!!!

I hate getting into debates like this because I'm all about MMA but facts are facts. If the MMA world was deep as the boxing world you wouldn't even know GSP yet, at 19-2 he'd just be making HBO undercards as a talented prospect (maybe not even that considering his record may not be the same).

Miguel Torres is the man

:boxing:

I know nothing about MMA ?

Fact is Randy's record sucks. When you get into details he's the man though.
To say pro boxers fight a bunch of nobodies is pretty ignorant considering that there are probably 100 pro MMA fighters.

Take 200 boxers and exclude everybody else an those nobodies are super stars with records like 16-8....lol!!!

I hate getting into debates like this because I'm all about MMA but facts are facts. If the MMA world was deep as the boxing world you wouldn't even know GSP yet, at 19-2 he'd just be making HBO undercards as a talented prospect (maybe not even that considering his record may not be the same).

Randy is 16-9 when he fought Chuck his record was similar. Chuck is now 21-7 but he lost 4 of those in the past 2 years (well after the Randy fight). So were talking a guy that's K.Oing people at 21-3 and a 40 year old wrestler that lost half of his fights regardless of his wins
fighting in a main event.

Now if Roy Jones, Mayweather, Pac or even Pavlik fought a guy with a record of 16-9 in a main event every thread in here would be about how they are taking weak fights.

Tim Sylvia was THE HW Champion in the UFC and beat Arlovski twice using mostly standup. U MMA guys always make excuses when one of your own falls from grace and just forget their prior accomplishments. Still, Ray Mercer knocked him the fcuk out.

Tim Sylvia was THE HW Champion in the UFC and beat Arlovski twice using mostly standup. U MMA guys always make excuses when one of your own falls from grace and just forget their prior accomplishments. Still, Ray Mercer knocked him the fcuk out.

Tim was the last guy I would've sent in there, but an old Ray Mercer you'd think would be a great pic for an MMA fighter to represent their side of things. We definitely need more boxers to cross over just for entertainment purposes alone.

I love both sport but MMA is the future and I rather do it all than to just focus on one aspect of things. However MMA's still a baby and Boxing has truly been broken down to a science so while I wanna train MMA I would never abandon boxing.

After seeing Chuck's stand up exposed for what it was I think Mayweather would've beat him. Those wide looping punches would'nt have made outside the bar parking lot. Even my dude Rampage is one dimensional in the stand up game and tooled Chuck each time they fought.

Anderson Silva however is a different story all together but let's not neglect the fact he turned Pro Boxer to get where he is skill wise today.

Tim Sylvia was THE HW Champion in the UFC and beat Arlovski twice using mostly standup. U MMA guys always make excuses when one of your own falls from grace and just forget their prior accomplishments. Still, Ray Mercer knocked him the fcuk out.

I dont give a ****. I never liked Sylvia anyways. To say a man with a hunched back, two ****ed knees, and two ****ed ankles is similar to Miguel Torres is just plain retarded.

Sure, I ****ted on Miguel but c'mon. No way in hell is Mayweather going to get in the ring or cage with a guy with SKILL and win an MMA fight. Not just a guy who came in at the right time but a guy with SKILL. Yeah, I ****ted on Miguel about his weight class but I never ****ted on his skill. Mayweather in an MMA fight with even Melvin Guillard is getting KTFO. Period. No reason even arguing it.

In a boxing match Mayweather will win of course but he isn't going to win by no damn 1st round, 3rd round, or even 6th round KO. Torres gets punched in the face for a living too and with smaller gloves. So c'mon, get off that hatorade and make sense. If MMA isn't a threat then why **** on it? If you dont think someone is a threat then you ignore it. But apparently it's a threat to you because you feel the need to **** on it.

Tim Sylvia was THE HW Champion in the UFC and beat Arlovski twice using mostly standup. U MMA guys always make excuses when one of your own falls from grace and just forget their prior accomplishments. Still, Ray Mercer knocked him the fcuk out.

Tim Sylvia was HW champion when the only legitimate challenger was arlovski. The rest of the contenders were Justin Eilers, Mike Kyle, Wes Sims and Paul Buentello. All the HW talent was in Pride.

Also more recently Tim Sylvia was out struck by Randy Couture, a wrestler. So what does that tell you? Anyone with a brain (including MMA fans) knew if Tim stood with Ray he'd get knocked out.

That doesn't mean every MMA fighter will suffer the same fate

Tim Sylvia was HW champion when the only legitimate challenger was arlovski. The rest of the contenders were Justin Eilers, Mike Kyle, Wes Sims and Paul Buentello. All the HW talent was in Pride.

Also more recently Tim Sylvia was out struck by Randy Couture, a wrestler. So what does that tell you? Anyone with a brain (including MMA fans) knew if Tim stood with Ray he'd get knocked out.

That doesn't mean every MMA fighter will suffer the same fate

Speaking of Wes Sims he's on TUF 10 with the one dimensional Kimbo Slice

Speaking of Wes Sims he's on TUF 10 with the one dimensional Kimbo Slice

Exactly. Shows you how shallow the HW talent pool was during the UFC at that time.

here we go again.

Boxing match---- Mayweather
MMA match------- Torres (but he must fight smart)

End of story

The funny thing about MMA fighters and fans is the overwhelming need to throw boxing under a bus constantly, whether it be on t.v., radio or the internet. You really don't hear boxers and their fan base all chastising MMA in these settings nearly to the degree MMA does it to boxing. If you don't believe me, watch insideMMA on fridays or even listen to miguel torres try show up mayweather. All this posturing is idiotic...they are two copmpletely different sports. I think there is a jealousy there and with the recent comments PBF has made concerning MMA, it just highlights their own insecurities as fighters and as a sport.

The funny thing about MMA fighters and fans is the overwhelming need to throw boxing under a bus constantly, whether it be on t.v., radio or the internet. You really don't hear boxers and their fan base all chastising MMA in these settings nearly to the degree MMA does it to boxing. If you don't believe me, watch insideMMA on fridays or even listen to miguel torres try show up mayweather. All this posturing is idiotic...they are two copmpletely different sports. I think there is a jealousy there and with the recent comments PBF has made concerning MMA, it just highlights their own insecurities as fighters and as a sport.

AM i reading it wrong??? It seems that Mayweather is THE one that is trashing MMA..... and he did it once before like 2 years ago when shrek was the lightweight champ. Dana white invited mayweather to step in the cage with sean shrek, and Mayweather backed up and took his words back.......

The funny thing about MMA fighters and fans is the overwhelming need to throw boxing under a bus constantly, whether it be on t.v., radio or the internet.

That's ridiculous. If I remember correctly Mayweather was the first one to open his mouth. I've heard several other boxers and promoter do the same thing.


You really don't hear boxers and their fan base all chastising MMA in these settings nearly to the degree MMA does it to boxing.

That is also ridiculous. Most MMA fans started out as boxing fans and still are to this day (me included). I don't go into the boxing section and stir up an MMA vs. Boxing debate, but people come in here all the time and do it.


[QUOTE]I think there is a jealousy there and with the recent comments PBF has made concerning MMA, it just highlights their own insecurities as fighters and as a sport.

If anyone is jealous or threatened it's boxing fans because boxing is no longer the only combat sport out there.

You don't see any MMA fighters calling out boxers or taking a **** on boxing or using race as a means to sell their fights.

In a boxing match Mayweather would KO him inside 29 seconds. In MMA fight Mayweather would still KO his ass.

One boxer says something and you guys are like vultures to a kill. MMA trashes boxing every chance it gets. Mayweather says one thing and because of his name, gets the exposure that has all of your panties twisted up. Get over it.

[/QUOTE]You don't see any MMA fighters calling out boxers or taking a **** on boxing or using race as a means to sell their fights.[/QUOTE]

this is false. do your research. Pat miletich called out a boxing champion after his last win, anderson silva wanted to fight roy jones or some ****, tim sylvia wanted ray mercer, now miguel torres wants mayweather...the list goes on. do your homework before you spew this nonsense from your ****-holster

It is not fair to compare MMA to Boxing. MMA is in the beginning stage of its evolution, where boxing has been around for a long time. Both sports are exciting and should be appreciated as well as being kept seperate from each other. I wouldn't expect a top MMA fighter to box and although I believe a top Boxer would have a better chance at success in MMA than vice versa, I wouldn't expect them to be successful with nothing but a stand up punching game. (Honestly what is a boxer going to do when he is getting his legs thrashed by kicks, or on his back after being taken down?) They are different sports and as fans we should just appreciate all the qualities in both of them.

In a boxing match Mayweather would KO him inside 29 seconds. In MMA fight Mayweather would still KO his ass.

haha. Right. Keep dreaming


One boxer says something and you guys are like vultures to a kill. MMA trashes boxing every chance it gets. Mayweather says one thing and because of his name, gets the exposure that has all of your panties twisted up. Get over it.

Not everyone gets twisted up over it. If that's what Floyd needs to do to sell his own fight that's pretty pathetic.


this is false. do your research. Pat miletich called out a boxing champion after his last win, anderson silva wanted to fight roy jones or some ****, tim sylvia wanted ray mercer, now miguel torres wants mayweather...the list goes on. do your homework before you spew this nonsense from your ****-holster

Calling somebody out and taking a **** on the sport saying it requires no talent, and disrespecting it's athletes are two very different things.

Just remember that Mayweather was the one who backed out of a proposed MMA fight against Sean Sherk, not the other way around.

Anderson Silva wanted to box RJJ to prove that not all MMA fighters are reckless strikers who don't know how to throw a punch.

To most boxers they turn down the challenge because of money, because that's all they really care about. If they cared about being the best in the world, money wouldn't be an object.

If money is more important to you, you're not a real fighter. That's just the way I see it anyway.


It is not fair to compare MMA to Boxing. MMA is in the beginning stage of its evolution, where boxing has been around for a long time. Both sports are exciting and should be appreciated as well as being kept seperate from each other. I wouldn't expect a top MMA fighter to box and although I believe a top Boxer would have a better chance at success in MMA than vice versa, I wouldn't expect them to be successful with nothing but a stand up punching game. (Honestly what is a boxer going to do when he is getting his legs thrashed by kicks, or on his back after being taken down?) They are different sports and as fans we should just appreciate all the qualities in both of them.

Good Post. Green K

In a boxing match Mayweather would KO him inside 29 seconds. In MMA fight Mayweather would still KO his ass.

hardcore boxing fan eh.....:theyareon

in a boxing match......... mr torres gets raped...... if hes not going to step into a boxing ring with all that **** talk he should just stfu.......

in a boxing match......... mr torres gets raped...... if hes not going to step into a boxing ring with all that **** talk he should just stfu.......

Mayweather is the one that says MMA do not require skills,.... why don't he fight in a MMA match right now to proof that??

Oh ya... he generates ##million PPV buys and earns $##Million checks....blah blah blah blah....

torres does not need to step into the boxing ring. Mayweather is insulting MMA....... it is MMA that Torres is defending.

9/10 Boxer vs MMA, in boxing = Boxer win.

9/10 MMA vs Boxer, in MMA = MMA win.

Surely it doesn't get any easier then that?

They'd both beat each other in their respective sports.

Didn't Tim Silvia have like the most defenses of any superheavyweight at the UFC?

If money is more important to you, you're not a real fighter. That's just the way I see it anyway.



It's called prize fighting cause of the money aspect. Guys who don't care about money are beer drinkers at a bar that try to get tough.
If you wanna fight for the glory of the sport alone, you can do amateur boxing or wrestling. If you want to fight the best and make the most money, you should be like Pacman.

Pacman has made in his last fight more money than Chuck Liddell, GSP and Anderson Silva in their entire carrers and he's still fought the best.

Didn't Tim Silvia have like the most defenses of any superheavyweight at the UFC?

LOL. He had 2 title defenses. 1 against Arlovksi and 1 against Jeff Monson.

Super Heavyeight?

Just shows how little you know about MMA. The UFC has no SHW division.

It's called prize fighting cause of the money aspect. Guys who don't care about money are beer drinkers at a bar that try to get tough.
If you wanna fight for the glory of the sport alone, you can do amateur boxing or wrestling. If you want to fight the best and make the most money, you should be like Pacman.

Pacman has made in his last fight more money than Chuck Liddell, GSP and Anderson Silva in their entire carrers and he's still fought the best.

LOL. Nice analogy. Idiot.

LOL. Nice analogy. Idiot.

lol, he's just trying to sound like Mayweather but doesn't know how retarded it sounded even when Mayweather said it.

Didn't Tim Silvia have like the most defenses of any superheavyweight at the UFC?

Do your homework dude......:spank::spank:

War Torres


I think he can beat him in boxing, yeah yeah, now the mayweather nuthuggers are gonna say I'm crazy, Miguel can't touch him blah blah. Torres has the speed and power to KO floyd, he can take a punch too, hell, even knees to the chin and keep going. But thats just me........




Also Sylvia was a reject of the UFC and Affliction by the time he fought Mercer...... Don't bash Sylvia for the beating, Kimbo KO'd Mercer

I'm starting to actually like Torres now. He would undoubtly beat Mayweather's ass. 10 second KO, Torres would Mike Swick that ass.



No. Why would Torres a professional fighter be KO'd in 30 secs boxing with 8-10oz gloves on, by a guy who normally drags fights into late rounds? :nonono:



I dont even see how you can compare Tim Sylvia to anyone. Sylvia is just plain trash when standing up. I actually dont even know how he did what he did in the UFC. Because honestly, a style like that deserves a KTFO.

Why do you waste your time? You really think someone that has trained in combat since he was 10 years old would really lose in 10 seconds to anyone in this world. Let alone some ***** fighting on WEC? And then you criticize how Mayweather would handle Torres. Buddy, go back to Mayweather's first 10 pro fights when he was fighting bums and that's what you would get with Torres. And absolute amateur piece of **** in there with one of the greatest boxers of all time.

P.S. I am amazed at how low your intelligence level really is. Just wow. I'm stunned.

Why do you waste your time? You really think someone that has trained in combat since he was 10 years old would really lose in 10 seconds to anyone in this world. Let alone some ***** fighting on WEC? And then you criticize how Mayweather would handle Torres. Buddy, go back to Mayweather's first 10 pro fights when he was fighting bums and that's what you would get with Torres. And absolute amateur piece of **** in there with one of the greatest boxers of all time.

P.S. I am amazed at how low your intelligence level really is. Just wow. I'm stunned.

Some ***** from the WEC? LOL.

Mayweather trains in 1 form of combat and albeit, the most incomplete form of combat in existence.

You need to look in a mirror when speaking on low intelligence. This isn't a boxing bout we are talking about. This is mixed martial arts, not Ulitmate Punching.


If Mayweather were to step into a ring and or cage with Torres in an MMA bout right now, he would either get KO'd or Submitted in under 1 round.

Hell give Mayweather 5 months of MMA training and he would still get killed

When speaking on pure boxing skills, of course Torres is an amateur. But in MMA, Torres would put a severe beating on him.

Use your head

Some ***** from the WEC? LOL.

Mayweather trains in 1 form of combat and albeit, the most incomplete form of combat in existence.

You need to look in a mirror when speaking on low intelligence. This isn't a boxing bout we are talking about. This is mixed martial arts, not Ulitmate Punching.


If Mayweather were to step into a ring and or cage with Torres in an MMA bout right now, he would either get KO'd or Submitted in under 1 round.

Hell give Mayweather 5 months of MMA training and he would still get killed

When speaking on pure boxing skills, of course Torres is an amateur. But in MMA, Torres would put a severe beating on him.

Use your head

1 round = 5 minutes. 10 seconds doesn't equal 5 minutes. Use your head buddy.

Who cares what Torres would do in MMA. He's the one calling Mayweather out. That's like Wayne Gretzky calling out Michael Jordan and expecting Michael to put on a pair of skates... it doesn't work like that.

Torres would beat Mayweather within a round, not 10 seconds, in MMA. Mayweather would beat Torres within a round in boxing.

That's it. Lock the thread.

Why do you waste your time? You really think someone that has trained in combat since he was 10 years old would really lose in 10 seconds to anyone in this world. Let alone some ***** fighting on WEC? And then you criticize how Mayweather would handle Torres. Buddy, go back to Mayweather's first 10 pro fights when he was fighting bums and that's what you would get with Torres. And absolute amateur piece of **** in there with one of the greatest boxers of all time.

P.S. I am amazed at how low your intelligence level really is. Just wow. I'm stunned.

You apparently dont know how short MMA fights can be. Perhaps you need to go watch KID Yamamoto at the Hero's Dynamite event. When all you train is punching and you try to fight MMA, your going to get ****ed over.

To say a guy who gets punched in the face for a living as well, by smaller gloves and trains boxing as well. Is going to get KO'd by a guy who is a defensive counter puncher in 1 round with 8oz to 10oz gloves, is down right retarded. Apparently your intellect is lower than mine. I never said Mayweather isn't winning. Mayweather isn't getting an early round KO either. Why do you think Mayweather took back what he said when Sherk confronted him? He apparently knows something your refusing to acknowledge.

Torres doesn't swing wildly either. It wont be an amatuer fight, dill weed.

You apparently dont know how short MMA fights can be. Perhaps you need to go watch KID Yamamoto at the Hero's Dynamite event. When all you train is punching and you try to fight MMA, your going to get ****ed over.

To say a guy who gets punched in the face for a living as well, by smaller gloves and trains boxing as well. Is going to get KO'd by a guy who is a defensive counter puncher in 1 round with 8oz to 10oz gloves, is down right retarded. Apparently your intellect is lower than mine. I never said Mayweather isn't winning. Mayweather isn't getting an early round KO either. Why do you think Mayweather took back what he said when Sherk confronted him? He apparently knows something your refusing to acknowledge.

Torres doesn't swing wildly either. It wont be an amatuer fight, dill weed.

Once again my friend, go into Mayweather BoxRec and look at the first 10 bum names on his resume. Absolute bums who were there to get knocked out and collect a paycheck. All those dudes would knock Torres out in a boxing match. And you're talking about Mayweather-Torres in a ring? It would be a whitewash, a bloodbath, Torres' eyes would roll to the back of his head.

Once again my friend, go into Mayweather BoxRec and look at the first 10 bum names on his resume. Absolute bums who were there to get knocked out and collect a paycheck. All those dudes would knock Torres out in a boxing match. And you're talking about Mayweather-Torres in a ring? It would be a whitewash, a bloodbath, Torres' eyes would roll to the back of his head.

Your trying to make Mayweather sound like a KO artist. Well my friend, your talking to a Mayweather fan. That **** wont work on me.

Torres isn't a bum. Those guys that Mayweather faught, that you are mentioning have no punch resistence. Miguel Torres gets punched with haymakers with 1 inch of padding(4oz gloves) which is basically a fist with leather on it. No way in hell is Mayweather going to put away a guy like that with 8oz gloves in 1 round(3 min!). Mayweather might outbox him, make him look foolish but he isn't going to KO him in 1 round like your saying.

You must not know anything about comabt sports man. Just about everyone here knows how Mayweather fights but your trying to make it look like Mayweather is some heavy handed knock out artist. Or are you just doing that for this thread?

Your trying to make Mayweather sound like a KO artist. Well my friend, your talking to a Mayweather fan. That **** wont work on me.

Torres isn't a bum. Those guys that Mayweather faught, that you are mentioning have no punch resistence. Miguel Torres gets punched with haymakers with 1 inch of padding(4oz gloves) which is basically a fist with leather on it. No way in hell is Mayweather going to put away a guy like that with 8oz gloves in 1 round(3 min!). Mayweather might outbox him, make him look foolish but he isn't going to KO him in 1 round like your saying.

You must not know anything about comabt sports man. Just about everyone here knows how Mayweather fights but your trying to make it look like Mayweather is some heavy handed knock out artist. Or are you just doing that for this thread?

I like how MMA fans think that a boxer would literally **** his pants in an MMA cage. But an MMA fighter in a boxing ring would feel like he's in a second home. Buddy, trust me, you are not a Mayweather fan, and you're constant attempts at making Mayweather seem less than ordinary are more tiring than effective.

I like how MMA fans think that a boxer would literally **** his pants in an MMA cage. But an MMA fighter in a boxing ring would feel like he's in a second home. Buddy, trust me, you are not a Mayweather fan, and you're constant attempts at making Mayweather seem less than ordinary are more tiring than effective.

Your an idiot. You obviously dont hang around the boxing discussion lounge much. Your the one trying to make Mayweather sound like he KOs people on the regular.

Pure boxers who convert to MMA dont do good their first few fights. If Mayweather stepped into the cage, does he have wrestling knowledge? Does he have submission knowledge? Sure he has punching knowledge but does he know the range of a Thai fighter/kickboxer? That's why Mayweather stepping into the cage and fighting Torres makes no damn sense.

Sure a MMA fighter will have a difficult time but there is no way in hell a defensive oriented boxer is going to KO a guy in under 3 minutes. Not just a guy but a guy who gets hit with less protection, gets kneed in the face, kicked in the face, elbowed in the face on the regular. Not happening.

If Mayweather was Pacquiao, it would be a different story. Since Mayweather is defensive minded, he aint doing **** the 1st round. Hell Mayweather typically feels out his opponent the first round. Then boxes them, he doesn't jump out aggressively and goes all out. He boxes them, then if he hurts him, he finishes in a technical way. Not just going all out and swinging wildly. Damn, you dont know **** do you? :nonono:

Your an idiot. You obviously dont hang around the boxing discussion lounge much. Your the one trying to make Mayweather sound like he KOs people on the regular.

Pure boxers who convert to MMA dont do good their first few fights. If Mayweather stepped into the cage, does he have wrestling knowledge? Does he have submission knowledge? Sure he has punching knowledge but does he know the range of a Thai fighter/kickboxer? That's why Mayweather stepping into the cage and fighting Torres makes no damn sense.

Sure a MMA fighter will have a difficult time but there is no way in hell a defensive oriented boxer is going to KO a guy in under 3 minutes. Not just a guy but a guy who gets hit with less protection, gets kneed in the face, kicked in the face, elbowed in the face on the regular. Not happening.

If Mayweather was Pacquiao, it would be a different story. Since Mayweather is defensive minded, he aint doing **** the 1st round. Hell Mayweather typically feels out his opponent the first round. Then boxes them, he doesn't jump out aggressively and goes all out. He boxes them, then if he hurts him, he finishes in a technical way. Not just going all out and swinging wildly. Damn, you dont know **** do you? :nonono:
Floyd would more likely than not KO Torres in 1 round, in a boxing match. Mayweather would have nothing to worry about, whatsoever. Torres would not be able to land on Mayweather. Mayweather would be able to throw the kitchen sink at Torres. The result would be Torres on his back.

I'd definitely favor Torres by a very heavy margin in an MMA match though.

Floyd would more likely than not KO Torres in 1 round, in a boxing match. Mayweather would have nothing to worry about, whatsoever. Torres would not be able to land on Mayweather. Mayweather would be able to throw the kitchen sink at Torres. The result would be Torres on his back.

I'd definitely favor Torres by a very heavy margin in an MMA match though.

Not in 1 round. Torres isn't stupid; you guys are forgetting there is a such thing as blocking, moving away, swaying, clinching. Why would Mayweather suddenly change his style? Makes no sense. This aint Fight Night, this is real life. Mayweather isn't going to risk anything too early. Unexpected KO's happen in boxing too. He's not a rookie looking to make a big impression, he is a seasoned vet and with age and experience comes set ways.

Not in 1 round. Torres isn't stupid; you guys are forgetting there is a such thing as blocking, moving away, swaying, clinching. Why would Mayweather suddenly change his style? Makes no sense. This aint Fight Night, this is real life. Mayweather isn't going to risk anything too early. Unexpected KO's happen in boxing too. He's not a rookie looking to make a big impression, he is a seasoned vet and with age and experience comes set ways.
If Mayweather were to fight Torres in a boxing match, which would never happen, he would be fighting a guy who he would know poses absolutely no threat to him, whatsoever. Mayweather would have his way with him. I don't see Torres lasting 3 minutes against Mayweather, in a boxing match.

As usual ; Floyd talks, and the world listens.

When are you guys ever going to get used to the act? Especially you MMA guys who are also fans of boxing, you should know a little about Floyd and his tactics.

Say what you want about the man but he's one hell of a promoter. Not to mention a great fighter.

The fact that this thread is 4 pages long with in depth break downs and point/counterpoint humors the **** out of me.

We all know it's never going to happen.

You apparently dont know how short MMA fights can be. Perhaps you need to go watch KID Yamamoto at the Hero's Dynamite event. When all you train is punching and you try to fight MMA, your going to get ****ed over.

To say a guy who gets punched in the face for a living as well, by smaller gloves and trains boxing as well. Is going to get KO'd by a guy who is a defensive counter puncher in 1 round with 8oz to 10oz gloves, is down right retarded. Apparently your intellect is lower than mine. I never said Mayweather isn't winning. Mayweather isn't getting an early round KO either. Why do you think Mayweather took back what he said when Sherk confronted him? He apparently knows something your refusing to acknowledge.

Torres doesn't swing wildly either. It wont be an amatuer fight, dill weed.

Saying that Kid only knows how to box shows how stupid you are when it comes to MMA :lol1::lol1:

Both of them are the best in their sport at their bodyweight.
If they both fight smartly, mayweather will make torres look silly in a boxing match, while Torres will do the same to Mayweather in a cage. I emphasize the words "fight smartly", as you see what happened to Time Silva trying to strike with ray mercer. Hell, even Kimbo knows how to ultilise his MMA tools when fighting Ray Mercer.

Not in 1 round. Torres isn't stupid; you guys are forgetting there is a such thing as blocking, moving away, swaying, clinching. Why would Mayweather suddenly change his style? Makes no sense. This aint Fight Night, this is real life. Mayweather isn't going to risk anything too early. Unexpected KO's happen in boxing too. He's not a rookie looking to make a big impression, he is a seasoned vet and with age and experience comes set ways.

I always respect your posts and think you know a lot when it comes to MMA but Floyd doesn't have to be a KO artist to knock a guy out like Torres.

See, in MMA Torres fights guys who are well rounded in many martial arts. Guys that can kick, grapple, know BJJ etc. If he were to get in the ring with Floyd in a boxing match, he would be in a world of trouble and could easily get knocked out because Floyd wouldn't have to hit him once to hurt him, it would be a accumulation of shots that Torres would not be able to defend.

I love MMA but it's disrespectful to think an MMA fighter could hang in a sport where a man has been practicing and perfecting his entire life. It's like thinking that Floyd Mayweather could take a couple of years of BJJ or wrestling and hang on the ground with someone like BJ penn. He would be submitted in seconds and in turn, Torres would be on his back in mere seconds in a boxing match against a world class boxer like Mayweather.

In an MMA match, Torres. In a boxing match, Mayweather. For those who think Torres would have a chance against PBF in a boxing match are close to delusional. I love Torres but he isn't a slick operator on his feet. His stiking is potent but he defence and movement are knowhere near Floyd's. In MMA he gets hit all the time and is very easy to tag because 90% of the time he stands right there in front of you. And this is against guys who have kowhere near the same abilities as Floyd does in the boxing department.

I love MMA but it's disrespectful to think an MMA fighter could hang in a sport where a man has been practicing and perfecting his entire life.

That's the key factor which separates Floyd from Miguel in a boxing match.

I am a fan of both sports. I think that this thread exist due to Mayweather kept inisisting that MMA do not require skills and it is for beer drinkers and "animals" etc. Boxing makes more money, period, but a professional sportsman should not trash another sport repeatly but backs out when challenged...

Every sport requires skills, but I got friends who like to say that boxing is only for people who don't know how to use their legs to fight. Well.... are they wrong???

I am a fan of both sports. I think that this thread exist due to Mayweather kept inisisting that MMA do not require skills and it is for beer drinkers and "animals" etc. Boxing makes more money, period, but a professional sportsman should not trash another sport repeatly but backs out when challenged...

Every sport requires skills, but I got friends who like to say that boxing is only for people who don't know how to use their legs to fight. Well.... are they wrong???

No they are not wrong but that doesn't mean anything. Boxers can't kick, **** I can't even get my leg past my hips...lol

I know that I spar with MMA guys all the time here in Miami and Ft. Lauderdale and have even sparred with guys from Top Team and gotten the best of them in a boxing match simply because it's something I have done all my life. If I was to even attempt to graple with them, I would be like a turtle on my back and get pummeled.....

Doesn't mean I'm not good or they are not good, it's just apples and oranges and I don't know why people continue this stupid discussion.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Miguel-Torres-talks-Mayweather-Brock-and-money?urn=mma,178557



Money would definitely easily get submitted.

No, I don't think he'd get submitted, I don't think that would happen - if Torres got him on the ground he'd ground and pound him just for the satisfaction of punching him unconscious - and if he decided to submit him, he would ignore any tap, and he'd either choke and choke until Floyd went to sleep or he'd snap a limb clean in two.

And I'd be cheering the whole time. I hope JMM messes that pretty face up, permanently.

No they are not wrong but that doesn't mean anything. Boxers can't kick, **** I can't even get my leg past my hips...lol

I know that I spar with MMA guys all the time here in Miami and Ft. Lauderdale and have even sparred with guys from Top Team and gotten the best of them in a boxing match simply because it's something I have done all my life. If I was to even attempt to graple with them, I would be like a turtle on my back and get pummeled.....

Doesn't mean I'm not good or they are not good, it's just apples and oranges and I don't know why people continue this stupid discussion.


right on. the two sports may seem similar to an average fight fan...but are vastly different competitions to anyone that truly follows the boxing/mma world.

LOL floyd by massive KO in a boxing ring, it looks to me like torres has never even seen floyd fight.

Where are all the Miguel Angel Torres fans now?

Go torres :boxing:

this guy cheers for anyone who isn't black :haha:.

torres would smash mayweather's face in