View Full Version : A decade later. The Gerald McClellan tragedy


trinidadpr87
02-18-2005, 06:36 PM
By Richard Slone
February 25th will mark a decade. The tenth year that former middleweight champion Gerald McClellan has struggled with life since his fight with Nigel Benn left Gerald with permanent brain damage. It’s been a decade since McClellan and Benn battered each other close to death. McClellan has been under the constant care of his two sisters, Lisa and Sandra, since. The war of 1995 left him blind, partially deaf and unable to care for himself.

Gerald is completely blind, his eyes are healthy but the signal to his brain is on a short circuit and his brain has trouble recognizing sounds, his brain injury also caused short-term memory loss. His sense of humor is still intact, as is his will to make the most of everyday. His compassion is also intact, the once fearsome brawler cried when he learned Roy Jones got knocked out.

Gerald lived his young life as a lion, and in that I mean he ruled his domain, he was invincible for a few years and lived life to the fullest. As someone once told me, "It's better to live just one day as a lion, then a lifetime as a lamb". Gerald McClellan knew what it was like to be the lion.

Boxing is a brutal sport, and the combatants know it, shortly before his battle with Benn, McClellan told the press that he was willing to die in the ring instead of losing. Gerald was a warrior to the fullest extent, he lived by the sword and was willing to die by the sword – the sport he loved built him up and then tore him down.

Today, his bank account is empty, medical bills took all of that and he’s supported by his sisters who have dedicated their lives to the care of the G-Man. His sisters work multiple jobs to make ends meet. The promoters, managers, entourage and business partners are all gone, when the money left, so did they. When the McClellans reached out for financial help, few even returned calls.

“Fighters, fans and promoters should all help Gerald” said former heavyweight great Smokin’ Joe Frazier, who once drove 13 hours through snow to attend a fundraiser for Gerald.

“In the boxing business, you can get your brain’s shook, your money took and your name in the undertakers book. It’s time people pull together for Gerald.”

Gerald lived his life as a lion, but now he's the lamb, fortunately he has his sister to shepherd him through the rest of his life.

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The print, painted by Hall of Fame artist Richard T. Slone, measures 16 inches by 20 inches (approx. 50.8cm x 40.6cm) and is available in a limited quantity of only 500 worldwide for a onetime donation of $50 or more to the Gerald McClellan Trust Fund.

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marvelous_TG
02-18-2005, 07:03 PM
that's very sad indeed, i don't understand why someone like DLH or jones, evander or lewis all those fighters with so much millions they can't even count it, don't give a million or 2 millin to gerald. That's would be enough money for his whole life

Slipx
02-18-2005, 07:32 PM
I have respect for gerald and all, but would never donate any of my hard earned cash to him, for two main reasons.

1. If I was sick he wouldn't give me a penny.

2. his condition isn't a disease, but an affliction that doesn't require medication, so he doesnt really need money,as far as people to take care of him, well his sisters can do that.

3. it's probably a scam, say they got a million, of course both sisters would get new vehicles etc. don't fall into this trap~

Yogi
02-18-2005, 08:17 PM
I would never donate one single penny to that sadistic son of a *****, no matter what condition he is in nowadays. I don't ever wish his condition on anybody, but I view it as a case of "what goes around, comes around".

Anybody who owns a dog like I do, and knows what McClellan used to do with a bunch of innocent animals just to get his kicks, would probably understand to some extent.

The guy is/was just a sick, sick human being.

Slipx
02-18-2005, 08:22 PM
I would never donate one single penny to that sadistic son of a *****, no matter what condition he is in nowadays. I don't ever wish his condition on anybody, but I view it as a case of "what goes around, comes around".

Anybody who owns a dog like I do, and knows what McClellan used to do with a bunch of innocent animals just to get his kicks, would probably understand to some extent.

The guy is/was just a sick, sick human being.


yeah he used to fight dogs


and you know what they do to the dog when the dog loses..take him out back with a loaded gun..

Yogi
02-18-2005, 08:42 PM
yeah he used to fight dogs


and you know what they do to the dog when the dog loses..take him out back with a loaded gun..

He got off on a little bit more than simple dog fights, my friend. That sick ****er used to go around to pet stores and animal shelters, pick up a dog or cat to take home...And from there he would take the dogs/cats down to his basement and let his pitbull have at them (which he'd videotape for his own viewing pleasure). That's morbid enough, but the sickest part is that he'd tie those other dogs' mouth shuts (as well as tying their legs together on occasion), so they couldn't even defend themselves against the attacks of his dog. He got his kicks timing how long it took his dog to kill a defenseless animal. When confronted by his manager about his abnormal "entertainment" and why he tied the other dogs up to the point of them being utterly defenseless..."I didn't want my dog to get hurt"

**** you, Gerald McClellan!

Slipx
02-18-2005, 08:44 PM
He got off on a little bit more than simple dog fights, my friend. That sick ****er used to go around to pet stores and animal shelters, pick up a dog or cat to take home...And from there he would take the dogs/cats down to his basement and let his pitbull have at them (which he'd videotape for his own viewing pleasure). That's morbid enough, but the sickest part is that he'd tie those other dogs' mouth shuts (as well as tying their legs together on occasion), so they couldn't even defend themselves against the attacks of his dog. He got his kicks timing how long it took his dog to kill a defenseless animal. When confronted by his manager about his abnormal "entertainment" and why he tied the other dogs up to the point of them being utterly defenseless..."I didn't want my dog to get hurt"

**** you, Gerald McClellan!


man ...**** that guy ,too bad he isnt a drooling deaf and blind vegetable, sucks he can still hear.

Well, I don't believe in the saying, goes around, comes around..but clearly this kicked him in the ass

I appreciate this info...whoever donates to this ****head is an *******, im a dog and cat owner and am appalled at that..why wasn't he arrested for that ****?



edited: nigel benn is my hero

Mr. Violence
02-18-2005, 08:47 PM
He got off on a little bit more than simple dog fights, my friend. That sick ****er used to go around to pet stores and animal shelters, pick up a dog or cat to take home...And from there he would take the dogs/cats down to his basement and let his pitbull have at them (which he'd videotape for his own viewing pleasure). That's morbid enough, but the sickest part is that he'd tie those other dogs' mouth shuts (as well as tying their legs together on occasion), so they couldn't even defend themselves against the attacks of his dog. He got his kicks timing how long it took his dog to kill a defenseless animal. When confronted by his manager about his abnormal "entertainment" and why he tied the other dogs up to the point of them being utterly defenseless..."I didn't want my dog to get hurt"

**** you, Gerald McClellan!



he was a dick for doing it no doubt...plus I hate pitbulls...one of my friends has a pitbull and that mean ****er growls when I come by. I warned my friend that if that dog even thinks about biting me...I will blow it's head clean off with my 9mm loaded with hollowpoints...**** pit bulls.

Slipx
02-18-2005, 08:49 PM
he was a dick for doing it no doubt...plus I hate pitbulls...one of my friends has a pitbull and that mean ****er growls when I come by. I warned my friend that if that dog even thinks about biting me...I will blow it's head clean off with my 9mm loaded with hollow points...**** pit bulls.


a friend of mine punched a pit bull one time in the face with a right hook when it snapped at him, really hurt his hand, they have hard skulls..the dog, however, didnt like it either, but he just shrieked and ran off- didnt get aggressive. he thought he was world class puncher after that, but he wasnt ;)

Slipx
02-18-2005, 08:51 PM
I could never understand why people felt the need to house such a primal beast in their homes..if you want action watch boxing, dont buy a ****ing monster thats known for eating small children and pets

Yogi
02-18-2005, 09:03 PM
I could never understand why people felt the need to house such a primal beast in their homes..if you want action watch boxing, dont buy a ****ing monster thats known for eating small children and pets

I don't think much of those pitbulls either, as I much prefer my Siberian Husky over any other breed. She's a big sweetheart, whose never put the bite on anyone in her whole life (seven yeard old). Because of her eyes, she can look a little bit scary to some of my friends when they first come over. But she's far from it in demeanor. All she does when somebody new comes over, is sniff at them for a couple of seconds and that's it. She doesn't growl at them, at all. When my buddies sit down, she goes over to them and puts her chin on their lap (from that point, my buddies are in love...hahaha). She's really, really friendly and is just a big sweetheart!

Lol999
02-19-2005, 04:41 AM
man ...**** that guy ,too bad he isnt a drooling deaf and blind vegetable, sucks he can still hear.

Well, I don't believe in the saying, goes around, comes around..but clearly this kicked him in the ass

I appreciate this info...whoever donates to this ****head is an *******, im a dog and cat owner and am appalled at that..why wasn't he arrested for that ****?



edited: nigel benn is my hero

****ing AMEN to that. I've got Staffies and cats and I hate that fighting ****. He was a real big ****er doing that **** until he got in the ring with a pitbull, Nigel Benn! I'm glad he can still hear, they ought to play the commentary from the fight to him over and over, the part where they describes him as having swallowed it! Bastard.

Lol :D

p.s. sorry for language but this guy I hate.

pinaldino
02-19-2005, 08:53 AM
Wouah..I didn't know a single word about that sick **** with Mcclellan and animals. I mean it's not gonna add anything to write and say I hate him for this but I just felt saying it anyway. You guys seem to know for sure and I guess it is well known facts. I have always been bothered by people who say "boxing is stupid violent sport, how can you enjoy mere violence?"
for me boxing is brutal but not violent, I mean it's professional fighters willing to do it, under specific rules, and they can stop anytime. I see violence as unfair brutality towards somebody who don't want any part of it and who cannot defend himself, and we see it everyday in society in many forms. Like attacking animals for the pleasure of hurting them is one of the few things that could make me wanna kill the ****er with my own hands. like the ****er who poisoned hundreds of dogs and cats for his pleasure around my place, mother****er hanged himself in prison last week I wish he's rotting in hell making room for Mc clellan.

Slipx
02-19-2005, 10:18 AM
Like attacking animals for the pleasure of hurting them is one of the few things that could make me wanna kill the ****er with my own hands. like the ****er who poisoned hundreds of dogs and cats for his pleasure around my place, mother****er hanged himself in prison last week I wish he's rotting in hell making room for Mc clellan.


we would get along well.

i should go visit mcclellan, make a 5 dollar contribution just to get in his room and shake his hand, then put a kink in his oxygen tube and take a walk out

Soko
02-19-2005, 12:08 PM
we would get along well.

i should go visit mcclellan, make a 5 dollar contribution just to get in his room and shake his hand, then put a kink in his oxygen tube and take a walk out


LOL!! I didn't know that McLlelan did that to animals but now that I know I'm glad that son of a ***** is a vegetable... There are two things that really make me sick to my stomach..they are the abuse and mistreatment of children and animals. .. I didn't have the heart to watch it, but apparently on Ogrish.com there is a new video of racoons being skinned alive.. Apparently in Asian countries, primarily China this happens to dogs, cats, and animals quite often.. Those heartless, commie, slant eyed, nip heartless bastards.. I swear to God if I ever found anyone that did that toanimals or children here, I would have no hesitation about hurting them really bad. What the fuc* is wrong with people.. Rot in hell Gerald McLellan

RAC
02-19-2005, 12:11 PM
What is the source of this stuff about him with the animals? I had never heard of anything like that and always felt bad for the guy so I am curious to read up on it.

jack_the_rippuh
02-19-2005, 01:10 PM
Humans are more important than animals..

Toller
02-19-2005, 01:13 PM
I think it was his cousin, but can't remember for sure. Search around the internet and you should find some info about it. I can't remember enough to vouch for the authenticity, but the general concensus seemed to be that the guy had no reason to lie about McClellan. And it's well known that he was heavily involved with dog fighting.

Tha Greatest
02-19-2005, 01:18 PM
omg i didnt know that **** that bout McClellan, i thought he was supposed to be a good guy, i cant believe he did that ****, i really think god is paying him back, doing to him exactly wat he did to animals.

Tha Greatest
02-19-2005, 01:30 PM
i just went to that ogrish website
wanted to see what it is
i just saw the titles of the things
n i couldnt even open it cuz it was that sick
i dont EVER WANNA GO TO THAT SITE AGAIN
whoever that can watch that **** is SICK!!!!

Mick Hucknall
02-19-2005, 01:37 PM
I hope that ***** has a slow painful death. ****ING CABBAGE.

Tha Greatest
02-19-2005, 01:47 PM
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/osm/story/0%2C6903%2C583541%2C00.html

here u go, i just read it all, **** you gerald!

Slipx
02-19-2005, 02:22 PM
Humans are more important than animals..

your original avatar was much better than your current one.

Super_Lightweight
02-19-2005, 02:25 PM
that's very sad indeed, i don't understand why someone like DLH or jones, evander or lewis all those fighters with so much millions they can't even count it, don't give a million or 2 millin to gerald. That's would be enough money for his whole life

You do know Roy has given more to him than any other person, right?

Slipx
02-19-2005, 02:25 PM
and yeah

if I ever saw someone skin any kind of animal alive or mistreat an animal for no reason,even if it was like four-five guys, id just walk up with a leaping left hook and let the punches fly from there, i dont stand for that kinda **** and I wouldnt be able to control myself, id be bashing heads against the pavement and ****..i hope i never catch someone doing this in the act, because im goin to jail for life if i do


and for some reason skinning a human isnt as bad because a human can defend themselves much more than a helpless animal..

the type of guy that would do this is the same type of guy that slaps around his woman, any time i see a guy getting rough with a woman in public i punk him,straight up. its happened a few times.

FrankJack
02-19-2005, 02:53 PM
That's pretty sick what Gerald did to those animals. I've got two dogs, a boston terrier and a pit bull. Pit's get a bad wrap because of stuff like Gerald did. I can't stand when people raise their Pit's to do stuff like that. All the pits that I've seen, my own, my friends, and families pit's, none of them have been as viscious as people say. Like most animals, it's in how you raise them.

As for McClellan, it is sad to know that someone is in that condition. And that's very sick to wish that on anyone or even find pride in the fact that someone has come across that fortune. Great job to those of you attempting to prove yourselves as his betters, you've failed miserably. What goes around does come around but it's nothing I would ever smile at, that's disgusting. And I would never put any human being's life below that of any animal.

Slipx
02-19-2005, 02:57 PM
that's very sick to wish that on anyone or even find pride in the fact that someone has come across that fortune. Great job to those of you attempting to prove yourselves as his betters, you've failed miserably. What goes around does come around but it's nothing I would ever smile at, that's disgusting. And I would never put any human being's life below that of any animal.

your a hoe irl

Tha Greatest
02-19-2005, 02:58 PM
sorry guys
but i want to get all this stuff out of my head
i cant stand hearing about people torturing others

i just hope i never have to be with anyone like that or see anyone like that

i'm out
lol

FrankJack
02-19-2005, 03:17 PM
Slipx, why would I be hoe? Please explain this to me.

Slipx
02-19-2005, 04:24 PM
I would never put any human being's life below that of any animal.


You are sayin jeffry dahmer, adolf hitler, and some ******* who shoots his dog in the head just because he lost a fight (i guess you didnt read the above posted article about mcclellan, i suggest you read the entire thing before responding) are worth more than a good dog or cat then you are just a hoe, nothing more to it.

plus you are a humanitarian pit bull owner..

+= El Jefe=+
02-19-2005, 04:29 PM
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/osm/story/0%2C6903%2C583541%2C00.html

here u go, i just read it all, **** you gerald!

damn thats ****ign sick,
i can say he was a bad man,
yet i dont wish his problem upon
nobody,
but im not gonna say he didnt disserve it.

oldgringo
02-19-2005, 05:07 PM
Karma is a *****. Anyone who does that **** deserves what they ****ing get.

A humans life may be more important than an animals...but that doesn't mean an animals life should be reduced to being mistreated and or killed. McClellan had that **** coming.

RAC
02-19-2005, 05:08 PM
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/osm/story/0%2C6903%2C583541%2C00.html

here u go, i just read it all, **** you gerald!

Thanks for posting that... I just finished reading it. Seems that he was a pretty sick guy. Some of that stuff he did almost reminds me of things I have read about serial killers and what they do that ultimately leads to them killing people. I don't know that it really changes my opinion about Gerald any, because based on what I read in the article he may have been a pretty disturbed person.

+= El Jefe=+
02-19-2005, 05:09 PM
Karma is a *****. Anyone who does that **** deserves what they ****ing get.

A humans life may be more important than an animals...but that doesn't mean an animals life should be reduced to being mistreated and or killed. McClellan had that **** coming.

indeed Karmais a *****

Slipx
02-19-2005, 05:44 PM
oldgringo speaks the truth


I had never seen this fight until a few minutes ago, (benn -mcclellan) talk about an epic battle. that first round was one of those first rounds where you look at the time remaining and think, "Damn, there's still two minutes left to go in the round!" it just went by slow because there was SO MUCH ACTION TO BE SEEN.
I originally also thought McClellan was a white guy, because in this boxing book I have, he looks white, but it doesnt show his head very well

Anyway, I'll post the fight as soon as it finishes uploading, it shows everything at the end too, (not the collapse,unfortunately) but it shows gerald in the corner on the stretcher with his eyes closed while nigel is being interviewed.. It's weird.

Benn crushed that guy like an ant with a sledgehammer, in the tenth round benn dips down and gets this full weight xfer right hand that lands mid punch then the punch pushes his neck and head back,hardest punch of the fight no doubt. I thnk that's what really did it. it's a brutal fight. McClellan would have had Benn KO'd in round one, but benn ducked that right hand that followed, luckily..and I have to pull a teddy atlas and say that I think his dreadlocks acted as a cushion..lol

ill even repost it in this thread just for all the newbies to see, since it's such a rare fight

FrankJack
02-19-2005, 06:16 PM
"You are sayin jeffry dahmer, adolf hitler, and some ******* who shoots his dog in the head just because he lost a fight (i guess you didnt read the above posted article about mcclellan, i suggest you read the entire thing before responding) are worth more than a good dog or cat then you are just a hoe, nothing more to it.

plus you are a humanitarian pit bull owner.."

First, I'm not gonna reduce myself to dissin you just because we can't agree, instead, I'll give you a reason why I do put a human life over an animal's. Can a dog put food on anyone's table? I've never seen that before. I've never seen a dog or any other animal go out and break it's back day to day to make ends meet for it's human parents/owners (whatever you want to refer to them as). I know what the man did. I knew what he did before I posted my first post.

Also, a hoe is a coward and I don't think we know enough about each other to throw that word around based solely on this conversation.

Humanitarian: One who is devoted to the promotion of human welfare.

I can't see the insult there if you intended for there to be one.

oldgringo
02-19-2005, 06:23 PM
"You are sayin jeffry dahmer, adolf hitler, and some ******* who shoots his dog in the head just because he lost a fight (i guess you didnt read the above posted article about mcclellan, i suggest you read the entire thing before responding) are worth more than a good dog or cat then you are just a hoe, nothing more to it.

plus you are a humanitarian pit bull owner.."

First, I'm not gonna reduce myself to dissin you just because we can't agree, instead, I'll give you a reason why I do put a human life over an animal's. Can a dog put food on anyone's table? I've never seen that before. I've never seen a dog or any other animal go out and break it's back day to day to make ends meet for it's human parents/owners (whatever you want to refer to them as). I know what the man did. I knew what he did before I posted my first post.

Also, a hoe is a coward and I don't think we know enough about each other to throw that word around based solely on this conversation.

Humanitarian: One who is devoted to the promotion of human welfare.

I can't see the insult there if you intended for there to be one.


If you place his life over any of the innocent animals that he totured then theres something wrong with you.

I don't know if you do...that's kind of an open statement. If you don't then disregard what I said. I'm not accusing just provoking you to reply. A dog or cat CAN make all the difference in a persons life. they don't call them mans best friend for nothing.

Tha Greatest
02-19-2005, 06:31 PM
****in gerald got brought a dog every day for his dog to fight
EVERYDAY!!

I was thinking about making a donation until i saw that ****!!
What he did to see animals can not be paid for!!

FrankJack
02-19-2005, 07:24 PM
Can an animal make a difference in a persons life? Yeah, of course. It's already proven that pets have a large emotional and mental impact on alot of people, I'm not gonna argue that. I can attest to that through the experiences that I've had with my other dog (not the Pit, I also have a boston terrier). But at the same time, I know that that dog can't come near to fulfilling the basic needs of my life.

As I said in one of my previous post, Oldgringo, a dog, cat, bird, fish, lizard, and whatever else someone might own as a pet can never:

*Put food on a table
*Doctor you when your sick
*Buy medicine you might need
*Keep your house warm
*Put clothes on your back
*Feed your kids IF you have any
*Give you transportation
*Help you get a house or allow you live in their home when you don't have one of their own
*Pay for the funeral of a loved one when you can't

Do I place any human life over an animals? Yes, because I take into consideration the points that I have just made. I'm not belittling an animals life into nothing all life comes from the same source. But I am pointing out what an animal can do for a human being and what another human being can do for a human being and obviously, a human being can do so much more than an animal. You deny that fact? I'm not trying to insult you or anyone else but if you can't accept that fact then there's something wrong with your thinking. In no way, also, am I trying to justify Gerald McClellan's actions, so don't take it as that.

Soko
02-19-2005, 07:39 PM
Can an animal make a difference in a persons life? Yeah, of course. It's already proven that pets have a large emotional and mental impact on alot of people, I'm not gonna argue that. I can attest to that through the experiences that I've had with my other dog (not the Pit, I also have a boston terrier). But at the same time, I know that that dog can't come near to fulfilling the basic needs of my life.

As I said in one of my previous post, Oldgringo, a dog, cat, bird, fish, lizard, and whatever else someone might own as a pet can never:

*Put food on a table
*Doctor you when your sick
*Buy medicine you might need
*Keep your house warm
*Put clothes on your back
*Feed your kids IF you have any
*Give you transportation
*Help you get a house or allow you live in their home when you don't have one of their own
*Pay for the funeral of a loved one when you can't

Do I place any human life over an animals? Yes, because I take into consideration the points that I have just made. I'm not belittling an animals life into nothing all life comes from the same source. But I am pointing out what an animal can do for a human being and what another human being can do for a human being and obviously, a human being can do so much more than an animal. You deny that fact? I'm not trying to insult you or anyone else but if you can't accept that fact then there's something wrong with your thinking. In no way, also, am I trying to justify Gerald McClellan's actions, so don't take it as that.


Fuc* Gerald McClellan!! Tying a Lab's mouth together as his pitbull ravages it.. Then the coward wears a hood on the videos just like Al Qaeda does when they cut off another persons head. I'm glad that little coward ***** got what he deserved in life.. He quit in that fight with Benn, taking a knee !! According to the article he was pissed at himself and in denial in the ambulance when the person in the ambulance said "Yes you quit you didnt get knocked out".. Mike Tyson knocked out old womans teeth in Brownsville growing up when he mugged them.. Typical *******, they prey on the defenseless yet when they are tested they wilt like little *****es..

Tha Greatest
02-19-2005, 07:40 PM
Can an animal make a difference in a persons life? Yeah, of course. It's already proven that pets have a large emotional and mental impact on alot of people, I'm not gonna argue that. I can attest to that through the experiences that I've had with my other dog (not the Pit, I also have a boston terrier). But at the same time, I know that that dog can't come near to fulfilling the basic needs of my life.

As I said in one of my previous post, Oldgringo, a dog, cat, bird, fish, lizard, and whatever else someone might own as a pet can never:

*Put food on a table
*Doctor you when your sick
*Buy medicine you might need
*Keep your house warm
*Put clothes on your back
*Feed your kids IF you have any
*Give you transportation
*Help you get a house or allow you live in their home when you don't have one of their own
*Pay for the funeral of a loved one when you can't

Do I place any human life over an animals? Yes, because I take into consideration the points that I have just made. I'm not belittling an animals life into nothing all life comes from the same source. But I am pointing out what an animal can do for a human being and what another human being can do for a human being and obviously, a human being can do so much more than an animal. You deny that fact? I'm not trying to insult you or anyone else but if you can't accept that fact then there's something wrong with your thinking. In no way, also, am I trying to justify Gerald McClellan's actions, so don't take it as that.



lot of stuff humans cant do either
w/e it is G-man did lot of bad ****, sort of reminds me of one of those evil doctors. I got a dog, and i cant imagine puttin him in the same room as a pit bull. That's pure evil. I'd rather give $50 to someone else that doesnt kill dogs for fun.
****ING ******* GERALD!!!

FrankJack
02-19-2005, 07:45 PM
^^^Uh, again, I'm not defending or justifying what Gerald McClellan did.....so, I'm not sure why your quoting me in your post.

FrankJack
02-19-2005, 07:46 PM
^^that was to Soko.

MlLkMan
02-19-2005, 07:49 PM
That suckssssssss

Tha Greatest
02-19-2005, 08:09 PM
^^^Uh, again, I'm not defending or justifying what Gerald McClellan did.....so, I'm not sure why your quoting me in your post.

lol i know
it wasnt for u
i was just sayin how i felt about the whole gerald and the dog thing
quote was by accident

Slipx
02-19-2005, 09:26 PM
Do I place any human life over an animals? Yes,


so you are saying here that, if forced to kill one over the other, you would prefer to kill a harmless pet rather than bin laden, adolf hitler, saddam hussein, jack the ripper, the boston strangler, etc?

oldgringo
02-19-2005, 09:33 PM
so you are saying here that, if forced to kill one over the other, you would prefer to kill a harmless pet rather than bin laden, adolf hitler, saddam hussein, jack the ripper, the boston strangler, etc?


Exactly...give me a nasty pitbull over any of the scumbag rapists, murderers, burglars, terrorists, spouse abusers, etc that walk this earth. ****, you can train a bad dog out of its ways in almost any case.

I value human life over any animals life in almost all situations too. But in McClellans case I certainly do not. If someone ****ing killed my dog I'd probably beat them to within an inch of their life.

Slipx
02-19-2005, 09:36 PM
Exactly...give me a nasty pitbull over any of the scumbag rapists, murderers, burglars, terrorists, spouse abusers, etc that walk this earth. ****, you can train a bad dog out of its ways in almost any case.

I value human life over any animals life in almost all situations too. But in McClellans case I certainly do not. If someone ****ing killed my dog I'd probably beat them to within an inch of their life.


i like you oldgringo

im out..enjoy the fight tonight man

oldgringo
02-19-2005, 09:37 PM
i like you oldgringo

im out..enjoy the fight tonight man


Take er easy...heres to a B-Hop win.

Tha Greatest
02-19-2005, 11:51 PM
he didnt kill only 1 dog, he killed like 100!!

FrankJack
02-20-2005, 12:13 AM
Saddam Huessein, Jack the Ripper, The Boston Strangler, etc......there is a huge flaw in your argument here. We are arguing whether or not a man who kills dogs life is more valuable than an animal's. The men that you have just listed are men who have slain many human beings. Your comparing a dog killer to people who have committed mass murders. A man who persecutes *****e muslims, a man who persecuted Jews and hated every other race, a man who killed women, etc. There’s no comparing, McClellan is a petty thief compared to these names. I'm not saying that I prefer the company of rapist and scumbags over the company of my dog, you guys are saying something that I'm not saying. But regardless their lives are worth more than an animals. It's this reason that the people you just listed have many followers, in Hussein and Adolf's case, they have thousands even today. What animal leads masses? And besides that all of those guys had pretty nice bounties on their heads, so I would get a pretty good sum in killing them, which I might add would still benefit me and those around me more than any animal could. I'm not saying that these guys are not scumbags or that I would prefer having them around me, this strays from our initial discussion. I'm saying that human life is more valuable than an animal's life regardless.

Tha Greatest
02-20-2005, 01:53 PM
**** U McCLELLAN, EACH TIME I THINK OF IT IT MAKES ME FEEL MORE SICK THEN EVER

NIGEL BENN IS A HERO, HE SAVED 100's OF DOGS!!!