I've just got a copy of the Glen Kelly fight, which coincidentally comes just before the first time Roy was really screened in Limey Land: The Clinton Woods bout.

When I first saw Roy I was excited by his skills and reflexes, but is the guy just a little bit dull to watch? Having all that talent, and all that physical excellence, only to squander it on boxers who shouldn't even be in the same ring?

Chris Byrd is another largely dull fighter, but I think he'd make a great support act: after all, while he's no real draw, he's a thinking man's fighter who can involve those who like the technical side of boxing. But Jones? Even when dominating a heavy (and it was John Ruiz) it became dull as soon as it became obvious how one-sided it was. Only in his last three matches has he really excited me - and those are ones he arguably lost.

I was going to try and build a collection of all his fights, but I don't know if I'll bother now... how many are classics?

Veeery boring and a huge waste of talent in my opnion.

Roy should have gone down as the greatest ever and now he'll go down as a guy who didn't apply himslelf.

I was just watching the Ruiz one (switched off Kelly, got sick of it after two rounds)... I hadn't realised just how "on" Ruiz Jeff Nady was.

Also - Roy trades with Ruiz in the centre of the ring, which I hadn't recalled (first round). Now, we all know what we think of Ruiz, but why didn't Ruiz's right to Roy's temple faze him badly, when Johnson knocked him out with the same shot? Could it be that Roy really is just shot, and would have been able to take it in years gone by? (Rather than always not being able to take it)

Maybe Ruiz softened him up..

Maybe Ruiz softened him up..Jack, I'm getting your handle now. I always knew you were a geezer, but I reckon you're a bit of a satirist as well...

i loved watching roy jones. he had all the tools but watching him carry a fighter into round 12 upset me sometimes. but once i found out that he has bad hands it didnt bother me as much. roy could have stopped more fighters but didnt want to risk breaking his hand to do it. also one part of his gameplan was to break a fighter down, tire him out and then go for the kill.

Waste of talent? The man was p4p king! How can you say he wasted his talent? It's not that he's boring. He's just above his competition and that one sided beatdown made it look boring. I mean he made Toney and Hopkins look mediocre. I've always been impressed of his skills, speed and refelexes. If you're into 1st round knockouts well he ain't the fighter for you.

The thing is he had great power and incredible handspeed at super-middleweight and yet he still let guys off the hook. He had the prowess of Jack Dempsey but he was about as ferocious as Hector Camacho. I find no enjoyment in seeing a guy get hopelessly outclassed for an entire fight. If you are that much better than you opponent, do him a favor and put him out of his misery. Why prolong the suffering?

Dont hate on Jones, look at what he accomplished u ignorant ****s

Greatest fighter of our era, unless ur old enough to have seen Ali live.

good call
RJJ is the best in our era
its just that he is getting old now

Dont hate on Jones, look at what he accomplished u ignorant ****s
LMAO well said

I've just got a copy of the Glen Kelly fight, which coincidentally comes just before the first time Roy was really screened in Limey Land: The Clinton Woods bout.

When I first saw Roy I was excited by his skills and reflexes, but is the guy just a little bit dull to watch? Having all that talent, and all that physical excellence, only to squander it on boxers who shouldn't even be in the same ring?

Chris Byrd is another largely dull fighter, but I think he'd make a great support act: after all, while he's no real draw, he's a thinking man's fighter who can involve those who like the technical side of boxing. But Jones? Even when dominating a heavy (and it was John Ruiz) it became dull as soon as it became obvious how one-sided it was. Only in his last three matches has he really excited me - and those are ones he arguably lost.

I was going to try and build a collection of all his fights, but I don't know if I'll bother now... how many are classics?
some of his fights are amazing it's definitely worth building a collection of his fights

come on guys, waste of talent??? i don't think so... not because he was not able to win it all does not mean he is the dullest fighter... i bet all you rjj haters have cheered for him even for one fight...

After Roy got koed everyone jumped on the bandwagon. He was never that great no one ever said that before. He beat fighters like Virgil Hill (who went on to be Crusier Weight Champion) James Toney and he was at his prime no matter what **** he says, Bernard Hopkins, Vinny Pazienza, Montell Griffen, among others. Haters can say what they want but in 5 or 10 years people will look back at realize how great Roy really was whether they liked him or not.

I've just got a copy of the Glen Kelly fight, which coincidentally comes just before the first time Roy was really screened in Limey Land: The Clinton Woods bout.

When I first saw Roy I was excited by his skills and reflexes, but is the guy just a little bit dull to watch? Having all that talent, and all that physical excellence, only to squander it on boxers who shouldn't even be in the same ring?

Chris Byrd is another largely dull fighter, but I think he'd make a great support act: after all, while he's no real draw, he's a thinking man's fighter who can involve those who like the technical side of boxing. But Jones? Even when dominating a heavy (and it was John Ruiz) it became dull as soon as it became obvious how one-sided it was. Only in his last three matches has he really excited me - and those are ones he arguably lost.

I was going to try and build a collection of all his fights, but I don't know if I'll bother now... how many are classics?


how can you call the most dominant fighter of
his time "a waste of talent??"
he made his opponets look silly
just ask B-Hop

After Roy got koed everyone jumped on the bandwagon. He was never that great no one ever said that before. He beat fighters like Virgil Hill (who went on to be Crusier Weight Champion) James Toney and he was at his prime no matter what **** he says, Bernard Hopkins, Vinny Pazienza, Montell Griffen, among others. Haters can say what they want but in 5 or 10 years people will look back at realize how great Roy really was whether they liked him or not.

Actually no, the band wagon was alive a long time before Jones got KO'd x 2.

Actually no, the band wagon was alive a long time before Jones got KO'd x 2.

Well I have to ask you a question...do you think Dariusz Michalczweski was the "real" champion or "better" than Roy?

I certainly hope not.

Dont hate on Jones, look at what he accomplished u ignorant ****s
Make your point without the moronic abuse, yeah?

Why is it with a thread like this you actually get people to come aboard and polarise it, accusing people of being "haters"? I opened this thread saying I was trying to build a collection of Roy's fights... is that the work of a "hater"? If you're going to join in, at least have something sensible to say, otherwise you're just defeating your own argument by your one-dimensional derisiveness.

Well I have to ask you a question...do you think Dariusz Michalczweski was the "real" champion or "better" than Roy?

I certainly hope not.

Its all subjective though DM was the linear champ. Every single one of Jones belts really belonged to DM.

Facts guys: Roy Jones kicked ass. Even though he didn't kick the right ass at times, and even though he took his time kicking ass, he was doing exactly what he wanted to everytime he stepped in the ring, and I respect him for being his own man and boxing on his own terms. I watch his fights because of the same reasons i watch Ali and Gatti and Mayweather. Jones and the previously mentioned fighters do things that i've never seen before, and that no one else can do. Anorak, when you were bored with the kelly fight, was it because Roy was too good? well fine, people get bored with the past mayweather fights too because of the same reason. They're one sided contests not because of handpicked opponents but bcause of sheer differences in talent. But i don't hold anything against Roy for being the best. Mayweather says he's letting himself get hit now to create excitement; i think that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard in my life. Roy knew what he was doing, and his success and money are proof of that.
Jones lost his arrogance and confidence after Tarver 2, maybe 1. He found out that he didn't intimidate, he was vulnerable, he was a target. I'm not gonna give him the excuse that he got old and slowed down that everyone else is giving him. He still has the same skills, you could see them in the forty five scattered seconds that he actually chose to fight Johnson. But he lost because he no longer believes in himself. the arrogance and confidence is what i want back, and if he gets it back, then he can continue to fight. but i don't think he will. which is sad because great fighters like that don't come around very often.