View Full Version : Fernando Vargas


MikeHunt
02-17-2005, 03:54 AM
How long into this comeback before his 'glass jaw' is nailed and he is counted out?

marvelous_TG
02-17-2005, 08:17 AM
I think at 160 vargas doesn't stand a chance taylor, hopkins, trinidad would all knock him out.
I think that he stands a pretty good chance at 154 as the belt holder wright doesn't have a big punch. and the top like kassim ouma are not big punchers but at 160 he get's his ass whooped.
what he can do at 160 is send quartey back into retirement.

Floydmayweather
02-17-2005, 01:56 PM
Whats this glass jaw crap he was knocked out late by 2 elite fighters but he has also been knocked down and got up. Vargas will do great at 154 and surprise alot of people. ;)

joeboxer
02-17-2005, 01:59 PM
True, Vargas stood a lot longer against Tito than Mayorga did and no one calls mayorga "glass jaw"

I know Vargas didn't stand there asking to get hit like Mayorga did either but he almost made to the end of the fight which is pretty impressive.

jreng1
02-17-2005, 02:10 PM
Whats this glass jaw crap he was knocked out late by 2 elite fighters but he has also been knocked down and got up. Vargas will do great at 154 and surprise alot of people. ;)

I'm hoping this as well. I'd like to see him dominate Quartey again.

Soldier01
02-17-2005, 02:18 PM
Vargas should incorporate some movement in his style and then he would a have a better chance in not getting KO'D. I agree with Floyd, He would do great at 154.

BBFM
03-08-2005, 04:00 PM
you all talk as if vargas got owned by one punch.

bigdlb12
03-08-2005, 05:35 PM
I would love to see Mosley vs Vargas and Zab and Mayorga and spinks, if he came back to face all of them, win or lose I would pay to see that

BBFM
03-08-2005, 05:38 PM
Vargas is a Warrior I hate **** talkers..

Sn1
03-08-2005, 05:40 PM
How long into this comeback before his 'glass jaw' is nailed and he is counted out?
so how do you pronounce your user name :confused: :D :rolleyes:

oldgringo
03-08-2005, 05:41 PM
The big boys at 160 will **** on him.

Ouma and Wright would beat him at 154...and maybe even Travis Simms.

I'd love to see him fight Ike again so Ike can **** his ass up.

BBFM
03-08-2005, 05:48 PM
I think he hates him

Mr. Beelzebub
03-08-2005, 05:55 PM
Mr. Cunt is completely off calling Vargas "Glass jaw". You should see his fight with Quartey (who dropped DLH) and even in his losses to Tito and DLH he showed that if anything has one of the biggest hearts in boxing right now, and that to keep this man down you have to hit him with a baseball bat. Vargas can take a punch.

RwK
03-08-2005, 05:59 PM
Vargas can take a punch.

Quartey hit him with everything except the kitchen sink. Breaking Fernando's nose in the process. I agree, Vargas has a decent chin, and a trememdous amount of heart.

BBFM
03-08-2005, 06:02 PM
Only thing I agreed on is he did act like a punk He's older now and Im sure hes changed boxing needs people like this though.

oldgringo
03-08-2005, 06:06 PM
Vargas is ****y, and beat one of my favorite fighters in Quartey. I don't like him outside of the ring but he definitely makes for exciting fights. I appreciate his heart...but he'd still lose to the top guys at 154 and 160. Is there really any evidence to prove that he'd beat a Sturm/Taylor/Ouma/Wright/Hopkins/Trinidad? (besides Wrights earlier slip up with him)

MlLkMan
03-08-2005, 07:15 PM
True, Vargas stood a lot longer against Tito than Mayorga did and no one calls mayorga "glass jaw"

I know Vargas didn't stand there asking to get hit like Mayorga did either but he almost made to the end of the fight which is pretty impressive.

Mayorga had poor conditioning.

+= El Jefe=+
03-08-2005, 07:16 PM
How long into this comeback before his 'glass jaw' is nailed and he is counted out?

I dont like Vargas
but i wouldnt say he has a "Glass Jaw"
like someone said before look at the people
who have knocked him down they are not exactly
weak punchers

BBFM
03-08-2005, 07:19 PM
vargas fought top guys very young in his career i think it was a learning experience and can come back from that your just a hater.

Truth
03-08-2005, 07:59 PM
I heard that Vargas is just going to fight once at 160 then go back to 154. I think 154 is a good division for Vargas.

jayschre
03-08-2005, 08:01 PM
True, Vargas stood a lot longer against Tito than Mayorga did and no one calls mayorga "glass jaw"

I know Vargas didn't stand there asking to get hit like Mayorga did either but he almost made to the end of the fight which is pretty impressive.
Actually if you watch the fight, Vargas made it out of the 1st rd. only by some kinda divine interventio, cause he got the **** knocked outta him twice in the first two minutes of rd. 1. So to say that he stood longer than Mayorga is crap, because the last time I saw the fight he stood then fell then stood then fell then stood for awhile longer then fell a bunch of times! LOL!!!!

As for his big comeback, this guy is as done as anyone I've seen in awhile. He didn't take DLH's shots to well at 154, and anybody can see that Oscar didn't carry his power up in those higher weights like he should have(which imo is why he wants to go back to 147). The fight I want to see at 154 is Vargas vs. Mayorga. Cause it would be ****in hilarious to watch Vargas get smoked by someone as ****y as Mayorga.:D

poeticlyskuac
03-08-2005, 09:14 PM
Actually if you watch the fight, Vargas made it out of the 1st rd. only by some kinda divine interventio, cause he got the **** knocked outta him twice in the first two minutes of rd. 1. So to say that he stood longer than Mayorga is crap, because the last time I saw the fight he stood then fell then stood then fell then stood for awhile longer then fell a bunch of times! LOL!!!!

As for his big comeback, this guy is as done as anyone I've seen in awhile. He didn't take DLH's shots to well at 154, and anybody can see that Oscar didn't carry his power up in those higher weights like he should have(which imo is why he wants to go back to 147). The fight I want to see at 154 is Vargas vs. Mayorga. Cause it would be ****in hilarious to watch Vargas get smoked by someone as ****y as Mayorga.:D


Well I wouldn't say oscar didn't have power I would say that he was without the devastating power he had his whole career. In the hop fight he was clearly trying to avoid getting hit by Hop and not puting anything on his punches. Quartey when DLH and Trinidad was around were was the best in the division. He beat DLH. And in my opinion ball punching tactics were the only reason Trinidad survived Vargas. Vargas at one point was cleary showing his power to Trinidad. I remember that was the fight I lost all respect for Trinidad. He was clearly cheating in that fight, I havn't seen to many fighters hit the cup that squarely. Vargas is as tough as they come although a lil **** outside of the ring he was still a very good and exciting fighter. If he would have learned of dirty tactics before Trinidad he prolly would have had a better chance at Trinidad.

FightFan214
03-08-2005, 11:02 PM
Yeah, you took the words right outta my mouth, if Trinidad hadent punched him in the nuts so many times in the 4th round Vargas would have probably tko'ed tito. Plus mayorga never even hurt trinidad, vargas knocked him down :p

jack_the_rippuh
03-08-2005, 11:07 PM
I heard that Vargas is just going to fight once at 160 then go back to 154. I think 154 is a good division for Vargas.

I agree. He can beat anyone at 154. The only person who would give him trouble is Wright (and he can't even punch...just like the rest of the 154lbers.) The ones who can punch are slow..

MWCOFSU
03-08-2005, 11:14 PM
Yeah, you took the words right outta my mouth, if Trinidad hadent punched him in the nuts so many times in the 4th round Vargas would have probably tko'ed tito. Plus mayorga never even hurt trinidad, vargas knocked him down :p

Wasnt the first time Trinidad had been floored though. Mayorga had little power at middleweight(look at his previous fights above welter). Mayorga was dropped by an accumulation of punches to the head and body. Vargas was hurt with one left hook. Which if I'm not mistaken..the same left hook that Mayorga allowed Tito to hit him with twice!

Yea Vargas has heart, I'll give him that. He's a warrior, i'll give him that too. He might have decent chin..but he is "chinny". Probably doesnt make any sense. I'm just saying if you hit Nando on the button with a decent shot, you can put him down. He'll get up, but you can still put him down. That shot DLH hit him with late wasnt a huge shot.. it hit him right..and Nando was on queer street.

Tha Greatest
03-08-2005, 11:18 PM
ya
Didnt u see how many low blows trinidad gave Vargas
I'm sure that REALLY affected him

BBFM
03-08-2005, 11:34 PM
Well it hasent happened yet so stfu and dont talk till then *****.

oldgringo
03-08-2005, 11:37 PM
Honestly...Ouma would eat Vargas for breakfast at 154.

THRILLAinmanila
03-09-2005, 12:03 AM
Honestly...Ouma would eat Vargas for breakfast at 154.


hey OG, march 19 is fast approaching...
what do you say we up our bet to keep it more exciting ? :D

oldgringo
03-09-2005, 12:08 AM
hey OG, march 19 is fast approaching...
what do you say we up our bet to keep it more exciting ? :D


I would love to, but unfortunately my funding is completely gone. I wish we could make it 100 mil but I guess i'll have to settle with taking that 38 mil from you for now ;)


No but honestly, with the taxes, I dunno if I even have enough to shell out all of the dough come fight time. Maybe ill ask for donations again. I have to do the math.

Famoso Matador
03-09-2005, 12:33 AM
Vargas has been away for sooooo long. He should definately take at least 2 tune up fights. If he fights at 154 i could see him clashing with Mayorga or Castillejo, whom are do to go at it later this year. Vargas is a warrior, but i dont think he would do good at 160.

Tha Greatest
03-09-2005, 01:35 AM
Well it hasent happened yet so stfu and dont talk till then *****.

are u talkin about me?
cuz i was backin vargas up...

BBFM
03-09-2005, 01:59 AM
I was talking about who ever was talking about vargas.


I want to see Trinidad Vargas2

jayschre
03-09-2005, 03:23 PM
I was talking about who ever was talking about vargas.


I want to see Trinidad Vargas2
Yea I'd love to watch Tito beat the **** right outta him again as well!!!!:D

And by the way when you say **** like "I was talkin about whoever was talkin bout Vargas", you really come off lookin like a blind ass ****tard!

Say what ever happened to the guy that left your boy Vargas layed out cold in his living room when your "WARRIOR" broke into his house to get even for dissin his homies?

BBFM
03-09-2005, 03:30 PM
Wait what happened vargas broke into someones house?
Im talking about boxing not his personal life.

Comments like ****tard. Im keeping my son away from where ever you attended school.


I wonder why so many people hate on Fernando Vargas so bad.
No one has ever giving him any credit really this kid fought back to back former and current champions he can box has speed power I mean WTF..