View Full Version : You guys are sleeping on Chop


DLT
02-17-2005, 01:12 AM
Ive talked to dude and he's a good guy who is very focused. The guy lost to Floyd (Who is at the top of the #4#) and Zab (Who is the undisputed welterweight champion of the world). Give him a break. How many guys wouldve beat them? Chop was a champ who lost to 2 of the best. Cotto wouldnt have beaten either fighter. I hear everyone saying that he has no chance and Cotto will KO him. This guy has been in fights with Floyd and Zab. Who has Cotto been in with? This guy has sparred with the 160 pound Joppy and was a sparring partner for Zoo and Mayorga. Cotto's power will not KO him just like Zab and Baily couldnt. Cotto doesnt hit harder then Zoo or Mayorga. Chop has never been KO just like N'Dou hasnt and Cotto couldnt stop him. This will be a very tough fight for Cotto and might be a upset. The only thing that makes me back down a littile is that the fight is in Puerto Rico which at the end may backfire on Cotto. This also tells me that Cotto's people know this is a dangerous fight, thats why it's in PR. Chop is a lefty who will surprise Cotto and alot of other people with his skills. He can box and fight. He also had a great amature career and was a 140 champ. Stop hating on him because he lost to 2 guys that most everyone would lose to

Floydmayweather
02-17-2005, 01:18 AM
Cotto is very tight defensivly and altough i dont think he hits harder than Zoo he has real good power and works the body crazy style. Cotto will knock him out you will see.

Knicksman20
02-17-2005, 01:30 AM
I have to agree with DLT in that this isn't going to be an easy fight for Cotto. I think the longer the fight lasts, the better chance Chop Chop has to pull off the upset. Cotto's a good body puncher so Chop Chop gonna have to neutralize that by countering to the head & discourage him from from hitting to the body.

bonafuwa
02-17-2005, 01:55 AM
Aww c'mon people. It's not a secret that Cotto is not only going to beat Chop, but it's how he does it that people are looking at. Will he be the first to stop the cross-dressing lefty? Chop is little more than a stepping stone for the elite in the 140 lb division now. I hope he has one more good fight in him and make this a competitive bout.

DLT
02-17-2005, 01:58 AM
Aww c'mon people. It's not a secret that Cotto is not only going to beat Chop, but it's how he does it that people are looking at. Will he be the first to stop the cross-dressing lefty? Chop is little more than a stepping stone for the elite in the 140 lb division now. I hope he has one more good fight in him and make this a competitive bout.
Yeah, and where did you get that from? He hasnt beaten anyone to put him up with the division's elite

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
02-17-2005, 02:58 AM
Ive talked to dude and he's a good guy who is very focused. The guy lost to Floyd (Who is at the top of the #4#) and Zab (Who is the undisputed welterweight champion of the world). Give him a break. How many guys wouldve beat them? Chop was a champ who lost to 2 of the best. Cotto wouldnt have beaten either fighter. I hear everyone saying that he has no chance and Cotto will KO him. This guy has been in fights with Floyd and Zab. Who has Cotto been in with? This guy has sparred with the 160 pound Joppy and was a sparring partner for Zoo and Mayorga. Cotto's power will not KO him just like Zab and Baily couldnt. Cotto doesnt hit harder then Zoo or Mayorga. Chop has never been KO just like N'Dou hasnt and Cotto couldnt stop him. This will be a very tough fight for Cotto and might be a upset. The only thing that makes me back down a littile is that the fight is in Puerto Rico which at the end may backfire on Cotto. This also tells me that Cotto's people know this is a dangerous fight, thats why it's in PR. Chop is a lefty who will surprise Cotto and alot of other people with his skills. He can box and fight. He also had a great amature career and was a 140 champ. Stop hating on him because he lost to 2 guys that most everyone would lose to

Who has chop beat that has a name though? No one thats who. Sorry man but its the truth. Yes he lost to 2 guys that are top fighters but he never beat any top or close to top fighters himself to say he has ever proven to be a real force.

DLT
02-17-2005, 04:50 AM
Who has chop beat that has a name though? No one thats who. Sorry man but its the truth. Yes he lost to 2 guys that are top fighters but he never beat any top or close to top fighters himself to say he has ever proven to be a real force.
Hello, he was a champ

cmason
02-17-2005, 05:55 AM
he was a WBO title holder, he was never a champ. still a tough fight for cotto, but he'll wear down corley and stop him late i think. cotto stalks his opponents and is very accurate with his punches, he does'nt miss alot, which means he does'nt waste energy so he remains strong throughout the fight. just because he don't hit as hard as tszyu does'nt mean he can't hit, especially to the body. i admit earlier on in his career i thought he was over-rated, but not now. i think he'll be a great fighter in the future.

1zz
02-17-2005, 07:35 AM
Chop Chop is gonna get his bidy chopped within 5.

jabsRstiff
02-17-2005, 08:18 AM
DLT......


I hope you will give Cotto credit when he disposes of Corley.
I don't want to see you dissing him for losing to Cotto, but loving him for losing to Floyd.

I'm not that high on Cotto yet....but I do think he'll KO Chop.

AintGottaClue
02-17-2005, 08:40 AM
thats right DLT u tell em corley by tko round 12 or by a MD
CHOP CHOP
CHOP CHOP
CHOP CHOP

Kornhusker
02-17-2005, 08:43 AM
I'll put all of my meager points on Cotto. Want to bet DLT, or Sturmrules?

guru
02-17-2005, 08:50 AM
chop sucks, he's hasnt beaten anyone worthy

AintGottaClue
02-17-2005, 08:52 AM
I'll put all of my meager points on Cotto. Want to bet DLT, or Sturmrules?

i aint even got 10,000 points bro no one likes me

jabsRstiff
02-17-2005, 09:05 AM
I have trouble seeing Corley having enough power to hold off the near-cruiserweight, Cotto.

The Phantom Menace
02-17-2005, 10:03 AM
Corley just might improve over the next year or two and actually become a top contender or title holder.

jabsRstiff
02-17-2005, 10:11 AM
Corley just might improve over the next year or two and actually become a top contender or title holder.



No way. Corley has seen his best days.

jack_the_rippuh
02-17-2005, 11:43 AM
I'll bet that Cotto doesn't knock Corley out.
He may stop 'em or get decision him or he may even lose, but KO (put 'em down for 10.) Nah..

Eyeh8you
02-17-2005, 11:51 AM
Ive talked to dude and he's a good guy who is very focused. The guy lost to Floyd (Who is at the top of the #4#) and Zab (Who is the undisputed welterweight champion of the world). Give him a break. How many guys wouldve beat them? Chop was a champ who lost to 2 of the best. Cotto wouldnt have beaten either fighter. I hear everyone saying that he has no chance and Cotto will KO him. This guy has been in fights with Floyd and Zab. Who has Cotto been in with? This guy has sparred with the 160 pound Joppy and was a sparring partner for Zoo and Mayorga. Cotto's power will not KO him just like Zab and Baily couldnt. Cotto doesnt hit harder then Zoo or Mayorga. Chop has never been KO just like N'Dou hasnt and Cotto couldnt stop him. This will be a very tough fight for Cotto and might be a upset. The only thing that makes me back down a littile is that the fight is in Puerto Rico which at the end may backfire on Cotto. This also tells me that Cotto's people know this is a dangerous fight, thats why it's in PR. Chop is a lefty who will surprise Cotto and alot of other people with his skills. He can box and fight. He also had a great amature career and was a 140 champ. Stop hating on him because he lost to 2 guys that most everyone would lose to
Couldnt agree more. Every one here is holdin this kids nutz like they are platinum! He hasnt been in there w/any comp yet. As far as im concerned this is Cottos first test and I say it's 50/50. Im rootin for Corley in this one! Just hope he doesnt get his panties in a bunch, literally!!!! :o

PRboxingfan
02-17-2005, 12:03 PM
I think this will be a TKO win for Cotto. I don't think Chop will go down for 10, as Jack said, but I do think he will get stopped. Cotto's body attack will do what Floyd and Zab couldn't - put chop on his ass. Floyd and Zab aren't body punchers, Cotto is a body punisher.

Eyeh8you
02-17-2005, 12:27 PM
I think this will be a TKO win for Cotto. I don't think Chop will go down for 10, as Jack said, but I do think he will get stopped. Cotto's body attack will do what Floyd and Zab couldn't - put chop on his ass. Floyd and Zab aren't body punchers, Cotto is a body punisher.
um you did watch those fights, yes? He was KD by both :confused:


You remeber when he was down correct??


Chop Chop by SDhttp://www.ufc*********.com/mayorga-forrest/images/DSC_6456.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/michael_selway/mayweathervscorrales.jpg

PRboxingfan
02-17-2005, 01:03 PM
um you did watch those fights, yes? He was KD by both :confused:


You remeber when he was down correct??


Chop Chop by SD
Yes, I guess I didn't express myself clearly - Zab and PBF weren't able to TKO him and Cotto will succeed where they didn't. Yes, I remember both of the fights and I remember the KDs.

jayschre
02-17-2005, 01:57 PM
The only one that is gonna be sleeping is Chop himself!
:boxing:
CHOP CHOP GONNA GET POPPED POPPED AND THEN HE GONNA DROP DROP:boxing:

jreng1
02-17-2005, 02:14 PM
Cotto will definately stop Chop Chop...but i think odds on the fight are 15-1. Thats a little too much dont you think.

DLT
02-17-2005, 04:07 PM
DLT......


I hope you will give Cotto credit when he disposes of Corley.
I don't want to see you dissing him for losing to Cotto, but loving him for losing to Floyd.

I'm not that high on Cotto yet....but I do think he'll KO Chop.
Look man, Im real. If Cotto wins then I will give him his due. There is nothing fake about me and this has nothing to do with Floyd. If he wouldve lost to Zab and Zoo, I would be saying the same thing.

You sound a littile funny telling me what I should do when you say stuff about Cotto all the time, just like you said that your not that high on him. You better give him credit too, why your talking about me

DLT
02-17-2005, 04:08 PM
he was a WBO title holder, he was never a champ. still a tough fight for cotto, but he'll wear down corley and stop him late i think. cotto stalks his opponents and is very accurate with his punches, he does'nt miss alot, which means he does'nt waste energy so he remains strong throughout the fight. just because he don't hit as hard as tszyu does'nt mean he can't hit, especially to the body. i admit earlier on in his career i thought he was over-rated, but not now. i think he'll be a great fighter in the future.
You say that he doesnt waste energy. Thats why he ran out of gas against N'Dou and almost loss

DLT
02-17-2005, 04:11 PM
You guys are doing it again. Thats why I hate argueing about Cotto and Zoo because you guys say the same thing. He cant take there punches, he cant take that body attack, he cant run all night. HELLO, Zoo has been dropped alot and TKO. Cotto has had one real fight and he was hurt and almost loss. You guys need to wake up. Chop has good offense and he will do some damage on Cotto too

borikua
02-17-2005, 04:30 PM
You say that he doesnt waste energy. Thats why he ran out of gas against N'Dou and almost loss

What? What rnd did N'Dou won? N'Dou took a beating for 12rds..

Sir_Jose
02-17-2005, 04:49 PM
Ive talked to dude and he's a good guy who is very focused. The guy lost to Floyd (Who is at the top of the #4#) and Zab (Who is the undisputed welterweight champion of the world). Give him a break. How many guys wouldve beat them? Chop was a champ who lost to 2 of the best. Cotto wouldnt have beaten either fighter. I hear everyone saying that he has no chance and Cotto will KO him. This guy has been in fights with Floyd and Zab. Who has Cotto been in with? This guy has sparred with the 160 pound Joppy and was a sparring partner for Zoo and Mayorga. Cotto's power will not KO him just like Zab and Baily couldnt. Cotto doesnt hit harder then Zoo or Mayorga. Chop has never been KO just like N'Dou hasnt and Cotto couldnt stop him. This will be a very tough fight for Cotto and might be a upset. The only thing that makes me back down a littile is that the fight is in Puerto Rico which at the end may backfire on Cotto. This also tells me that Cotto's people know this is a dangerous fight, thats why it's in PR. Chop is a lefty who will surprise Cotto and alot of other people with his skills. He can box and fight. He also had a great amature career and was a 140 champ. Stop hating on him because he lost to 2 guys that most everyone would lose to

Corley has had his chances to prove he was legit and he's done nothing but come up short.

PRboxingfan
02-17-2005, 05:22 PM
You say that he doesnt waste energy. Thats why he ran out of gas against N'Dou and almost loss
He still won a good decision. He did look a bit tired in the 10th and 12th round, but he said it was because he had to struggle to make weight because of the differences between Vegas and PR; who knows. He still fought good, tho.

elveiel
02-17-2005, 05:28 PM
This should be a tough fight for Cotto, my respect for Cotto increased when they made this fight.

Its a risky stepping stone but i think Cotto has the skills and attitude to win.

DLT
02-18-2005, 01:08 AM
He still won a good decision. He did look a bit tired in the 10th and 12th round, but he said it was because he had to struggle to make weight because of the differences between Vegas and PR; who knows. He still fought good, tho.
He did fight a good fight and I was impressed. I was just responding to the other guy who was talking about how great his conditioning is. That was the only long tough fight he had and his conditioning wasnt great.

You also need to talk to your boy Borika if he thinks that N'Dou didnt win a round and Cotto gave him a 12 round beating. Thats the kind of stuff that makes it look like you guys are just on Cotto no matter what and makes him lose credibility

Shaolin Bushido
02-18-2005, 01:18 AM
Chop Chop's getting stop stopped win he meets Cotto. End of story.

oldgringo
02-18-2005, 01:25 AM
Chop Chop's getting stop stopped win he meets Cotto. End of story.

It's questionable...I don't think guaranteeing a Chop stoppage is that cut and dry. Corley's a tough boxer...it'll all depend on how Cotto attacks him. If that "body attack" is ferocious then I think we might see a corner stoppage or late TKO. Anyway I look at it I can't see Cotto losing.

Shaolin Bushido
02-18-2005, 01:28 AM
It's questionable...I don't think guaranteeing a Chop stoppage is that cut and dry. Corley's a tough boxer...it'll all depend on how Cotto attacks him. If that "body attack" is ferocious then I think we might see a corner stoppage or late TKO. Anyway I look at it I can't see Cotto losing.You're right. It's not a foregone conclusion he's stopped as he's pretty elusive and has met the better competition so far. I really can't see a scenario where he wins and definitely feel that Cotto's got weapons that can end the fight from round one on.

Shaolin Bushido
02-18-2005, 01:29 AM
The only one that is gonna be sleeping is Chop himself!
:boxing:
CHOP CHOP GONNA GET POPPED POPPED AND THEN HE GONNA DROP DROP:boxing:Hahahahahahaha, that's better than mine!

oldgringo
02-18-2005, 01:42 AM
You're right. It's not a foregone conclusion he's stopped as he's pretty elusive and has met the better competition so far. I really can't see a scenario where he wins and definitely feel that Cotto's got weapons that can end the fight from round one on.


Agreed...



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ottoevans
02-18-2005, 03:54 AM
Chop Chop is past his prime, hes going to lose. But dont think Cotto is nice because he'll beat him, Cott hasnt beaten anybody. I dont want to say hes overated cause he hasnt provne himself yet but hes only faught tomato cans

.::EnRiQuE::.
02-18-2005, 03:50 PM
I think this will be a TKO win for Cotto. I don't think Chop will go down for 10, as Jack said, but I do think he will get stopped. Cotto's body attack will do what Floyd and Zab couldn't - put chop on his ass. Floyd and Zab aren't body punchers, Cotto is a body punisher.
good f*cking point!
:cool:

PRboxingfan
02-18-2005, 04:09 PM
Chop Chop is past his prime, hes going to lose. But dont think Cotto is nice because he'll beat him, Cott hasnt beaten anybody. I dont want to say hes overated cause he hasnt provne himself yet but hes only faught tomato cans
That's a joke. Name one good fighter (not counting his last win against Spinks) who Judah has beat? He had lost his only two fights against legitimate opponents. Same goes with Sharmba. Whom had he beaten that was recognized as a good fighter? The same goes for Ricky Hatton (who's been feasting on Sharmba's leftovers). The point is, Cotto has beaten some guys with descent records (winning records, I might add, not like Witter) who are/were supposed to be tough opponents.