Tha Greatest
02-16-2005, 10:09 AM
I saw on a boxing website that jake la motta said referees are stopping fights way to early these days..do you agree?
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View Full Version : Do referees stop fights to early these days? Tha Greatest 02-16-2005, 10:09 AM I saw on a boxing website that jake la motta said referees are stopping fights way to early these days..do you agree? I do DR. FREECLOUD 02-16-2005, 10:12 AM i voted no but some fights are definately stopped early. but alot of the fights that people complain about being stopped early should be stopped. jack_the_rippuh 02-16-2005, 10:12 AM I saw on a boxing website that jake la motta said referees are stopping fights way to early these days..do you agree? I do I agree..stoppages these days are rarely right..always either too late or always too early. Alot of the low profile fights have early stoppages. I also think a fighter who kind of built a rep for himself as a come from behind winner, even after falling down, has a better chance of getting the nod from the refferee to continue.. puppy_dogg 02-16-2005, 10:17 AM they dont stop them to early these days they just did'nt stop them soon enough back then. look at foreman-frazier, that **** was pathetic. its better to have common sense and stop it before somebody gets really hurt and ****ed up for good. abdiel2k3 02-16-2005, 10:22 AM they dont stop them to early these days they just did'nt stop them soon enough back then. look at foreman-frazier, that **** was pathetic. its better to have common sense and stop it before somebody gets really hurt and ****ed up for good. ding ding we have a winner boxernyc 02-16-2005, 10:53 AM they dont stop them to early these days they just did'nt stop them soon enough back then. look at foreman-frazier, that **** was pathetic. its better to have common sense and stop it before somebody gets really hurt and ****ed up for good. My sentiments exactly. Who is the biggest name in boxing? Muhammad Ali. He is a large part of the reason people think boxing is a terrible sport and a large reasons why fights should be stopped earlier. He was beloved by many but listen to by all. And now he is unable to speak anywhere near the level he was. jack_the_rippuh 02-16-2005, 11:41 AM Yeah, but he was in heavyweight boxing... Some of those smaller weight stoppages are too early.. boxernyc 02-16-2005, 01:35 PM Yeah, but he was in heavyweight boxing... Some of those smaller weight stoppages are too early.. That's true. But sometimes they make good calls and let the fight go on. As was the Pacman - JMM fight. Imagined they stopped that one! I guess it comes down to the individual refs. I watched some of the b/w ESPN Classic fights and I think you had to be knocked down 30-40 times to stop the fight. Who is the worst person in you guys' opinion for stopping too early and too late? Tha Greatest 02-16-2005, 04:55 PM even though i think tszyu would've beat Judah the ref stopped the fight way to early, I mean when they get knocked down, they should count to 10, but whenever their takin brutal punishment without goin down or throwing back then theyt should stop it, but sometimes it pisses me off, if they get knocked down, count to 10,if they up, let em fight, Jay Nady pissed me off in the fight with tszyu and judah1 davico 02-16-2005, 05:04 PM even though i think tszyu would've beat Judah the ref stopped the fight way to early, I mean when they get knocked down, they should count to 10, but whenever their takin brutal punishment without goin down or throwing back then theyt should stop it, but sometimes it pisses me off, if they get knocked down, count to 10,if they up, let em fight, Jay Nady pissed me off in the fight with tszyu and judah1 The thing is he went down twice from one punch which is usually a sign of concussion, which as Nady explained was why he stopped the fight. I know that Judah jumped straight up and that was much of the cause of him going down again, but that is his fault not Nady's. Nady was following the guidelines that have been set out for the referees regarding fighters that go down twice from one punch. joeboxer 02-16-2005, 05:14 PM Back in the day the ref didn't even make the other boxer go to a corner why his opponent got back up, so basically one knockdown was all you got. Now we have a more civilized referre who gives an someone ten seconds to get up or 8 seconds on their feet and we have more people dying. boxernyc 02-16-2005, 05:20 PM The thing is he went down twice from one punch which is usually a sign of concussion, which as Nady explained was why he stopped the fight. I know that Judah jumped straight up and that was much of the cause of him going down again, but that is his fault not Nady's. Nady was following the guidelines that have been set out for the referees regarding fighters that go down twice from one punch. That is exactly the right reason. I would have called the fight at the time. Looking at how fast he recovered (enough to go and choke Jay Nady) he may have been okay to continue but he may have been clobbered again had he let him continue. But refs don't have the benefit of hindsight. I think Jay Nady generally calls a good fight. Zab may not agree however! puppy_dogg 02-16-2005, 05:45 PM judah recoverd quickly once he got to his feet. the round was over when he went down, if it would have been allowed to continue then zab would have had a full minute to recover which i think would have been more than enough considering the way he was acting just after the fight was over. he was hurt no doubt about it but not THAT hurt, he went down a second time cause he jumped up to fast. his fault but it sucks he had to lose the fight that way, alot of people say the fight would be the exact same if they fought again but i disagree. i would still give judah a good chance especially now that he has tasted tszyu's big power and would be more cautious than ever boxernyc 02-16-2005, 06:32 PM judah recoverd quickly once he got to his feet. the round was over when he went down, if it would have been allowed to continue then zab would have had a full minute to recover which i think would have been more than enough considering the way he was acting just after the fight was over. he was hurt no doubt about it but not THAT hurt, he went down a second time cause he jumped up to fast. his fault but it sucks he had to lose the fight that way, alot of people say the fight would be the exact same if they fought again but i disagree. i would still give judah a good chance especially now that he has tasted tszyu's big power and would be more cautious than ever Only one way to find out. And damn I hope we find out. I am a Tsyzu fan but I have a little more respect for Zab now after the Spinks fight. I don't think the outcome will change just the round. He won't get clocked early again. It may even go to a decision. jack_the_rippuh 02-16-2005, 07:49 PM Only one way to find out. And damn I hope we find out. I am a Tsyzu fan but I have a little more respect for Zab now after the Spinks fight. I don't think the outcome will change just the round. He won't get clocked early again. It may even go to a decision. If he can stay away from the right hand and play the counter-puncher...he'll win a UD. oldgringo 02-16-2005, 08:20 PM Stoppages these days somewhat even themselves out when you look at the number of early/late stoppages. Some are a bit on the early side and some are pathetically late. A good example of a bad late stoppage was the Yanqui Diaz/Sam Peter fight. It was clear that Diaz was going nowhere...that **** should have been over after the 3rd or 4th KD. The last fight I can think of when there was an early or questionable stoppage was the Taylor/Chavez bout and Leonard/Hearns I. phallus 02-16-2005, 08:24 PM they dont stop them to early these days they just did'nt stop them soon enough back then. look at foreman-frazier, that **** was pathetic. its better to have common sense and stop it before somebody gets really hurt and ****ed up for good. WORD! i'd rather see a guy able to fight again, it's too risky sometimes to let a fight go on, when a guy can't protect himself anymore it's time to stop |