know some people are saying Hopkins is slipping a little bit and Taylor seems to be improving. After his bout with edouard i think he should fight sterum and then fight Hopkins. I personally think he has a fair shot at beating bhop because he is naturally bigger and stronger. What do u all think.

Lets not put the horse before the buggy. There is no gurantee that Taylor will get by Edouard and obviously if he does he will be in posistion to challenge for the title. And there is no gurantee that Hopkins will get by Eastman. Now obviously it is logical to assume they both will get by and be in posistion to theoritically fight each other.

However Hopkins has expressed interest in fighting Johnson so I think that a fight with Taylor may be the last in Hopkins career. Or B-Hop could fight Tito again, either way he'll go out with a bang.

By the way, Hopkins works over Taylor if they did fight.Hopkins by lopsided UD or late round TKO.

agree 100%

Taylor is not ready for Hopkins.

funny how people dont flame when its taylor/hopkins but go beserzk when its sturm/hopkins

Hopkins beats taylor the fight would do the kid no harm it would keep his feet on the ground b4 he starts believing his own hype.

To young to soon.

Taylor isnt ready he hasnt been in any kind of fight that really has put a hard test on him.

Taylor shouldnt fight Hopkins at all, he is to green. In all actuality it would be best for Taylor to either take some real hard fights and then fight Hopkins to do a passing of the torch or just pass Hopkins by. Neither fighter has interest in fighting one another really.

IF Eastman gets by Hopkins, I could totally see Taylor jumping the gun to that and I would favor Taylor over Eastman.

Hopkins won't fight Taylor nor Sturm. Hopkins is looking for $$$, and nothing else. Once he gets past Eastman (if he does) he will only fight the winner of Tito/Winky or Johnson (if he gets past Tarver) and then retire. I'm telling you that's how it is.

Don't get your hopes up for Hopkins to fight more than 3 more times, one of them being his Eastman fight.

I bet if Taylor gets a loss on his record he'll start calling out Hopkins..
He'll have nothing to lose.

Hopkins won't fight Taylor nor Sturm. Hopkins is looking for $$$, and nothing else. Once he gets past Eastman (if he does) he will only fight the winner of Tito/Winky or Johnson (if he gets past Tarver) and then retire. I'm telling you that's how it is.

Don't get your hopes up for Hopkins to fight more than 3 more times, one of them being his Eastman fight.


Hopkins just stated in an interview that he will defend his title against Eastman and provided he wins, he will target Johnson and MEET Johnson at 175 to challenge him for the LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT crown. Bernard stated their would be no catch weight or anything like that he would move up to 175 and give Johnson a fair shake.

But Bernard also stated that after Eastman he will have 2 major ppv fights back to back before the year is up. I would favor a Tito and then Johnson fight, or vice versa. If Hopkins calls out retirement and actually follows through then a fight with Tito could be easily made, Hopkins doesnt want Tito now due to King getting options and their court settlement BUT if Hopkins retires King cant hold any options on Hopkins what so ever. So after Eastman a fight with Johnson and then a move to fight Tito would be an awesome way to end his career and not have King involved.

With speculation that Tito will go to 168, provided Hopkins goes to 175 they could fight at 168 and weight wouldnt be an issue.

Hopkins won't fight Taylor nor Sturm. Hopkins is looking for $$$, and nothing else. Once he gets past Eastman (if he does) he will only fight the winner of Tito/Winky or Johnson (if he gets past Tarver) and then retire. I'm telling you that's how it is.

Don't get your hopes up for Hopkins to fight more than 3 more times, one of them being his Eastman fight.
Exactly, how i see it and you cant blame him, wants to go out with money. i would bet 100% that he goes out fighting tito cuz thats where the moneys at. I would like to see him fight roy jones before johnson. hopefully he tried to avenge his loss so that he will lose again.

Exactly, how i see it and you cant blame him, wants to go out with money. i would bet 100% that he goes out fighting tito cuz thats where the moneys at. I would like to see him fight roy jones before johnson. hopefully he tried to avenge his loss so that he will lose again.


Provided Jones gets hungry about Hopkins coming to 175, Jones could take a few tune ups (provided he gets on the ball) and have Hopkins fight Johnson and then a few months later fight Roy....Ahh that would be sweet and TITO needs Bernard than Hopkins needs him. So Hopkins has options.

But also Johnson would have to get on the ball and fight Tarver and if Tarver derails Johnson than Hopkins plans sours overnight and in that case, Hopkins doesnt have much options.

Hopkins just stated in an interview that he will defend his title against Eastman and provided he wins, he will target Johnson and MEET Johnson at 175 to challenge him for the LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT crown. Bernard stated their would be no catch weight or anything like that he would move up to 175 and give Johnson a fair shake.

But Bernard also stated that after Eastman he will have 2 major ppv fights back to back before the year is up. I would favor a Tito and then Johnson fight, or vice versa. If Hopkins calls out retirement and actually follows through then a fight with Tito could be easily made, Hopkins doesnt want Tito now due to King getting options and their court settlement BUT if Hopkins retires King cant hold any options on Hopkins what so ever. So after Eastman a fight with Johnson and then a move to fight Tito would be an awesome way to end his career and not have King involved.

With speculation that Tito will go to 168, provided Hopkins goes to 175 they could fight at 168 and weight wouldnt be an issue.
Why would he go up in weight and come back down? Everyone knows that killed RJJ so I doubt Hopkins would be dumb enough to try that. He'd fight Tito at 160 or 168 and, if he wins, then he would fight Johnson/Tarver at 175 to finish his career. Seems like the smart thing to do.

Why would he go up in weight and come back down? Everyone knows that killed RJJ so I doubt Hopkins would be dumb enough to try that. He'd fight Tito at 160 or 168 and, if he wins, then he would fight Johnson/Tarver at 175 to finish his career. Seems like the smart thing to do.


Well I also said that it would probably be at a catch weight since Tito is moving up.

The weight loss for Roy didnt effect him old age did.

Don't think the handlers of Taylor is ready to take the risk of facing Hopkins. Bernard is able to destroy fighters, even if he doesn't knock them out. Many good fighters have been ruined by good old B-Hop, so Taylor is probobly best off staying away, at least for another year.

The same goes for Hopkins, I think he figures that Taylor is too big a risk for the money (or lack of it) he will recieve.

doesnt tarver get johnson next so after eastman if he wins its gotta be the winner of winky/tito then the winner of johnson/tarver thats probally the most logical route for hopkins and most likly will happen

doesnt tarver get johnson next so after eastman if he wins its gotta be the winner of winky/tito then the winner of johnson/tarver thats probally the most logical route for hopkins and most likly will happen


Tarver would kill Bernard at 175. I realize Bernard is an extraordinady boxer and all but I believe Tarver would be to big of a man.

This is provided that he gets by Eastman and I truly believe he wont.

Tarver would kill Bernard at 175. I realize Bernard is an extraordinady boxer and all but I believe Tarver would be to big of a man.

This is provided that he gets by Eastman and I truly believe he wont.


same here but apperently he is going to light heavy he will lose but hey if he wants to dent his legacy fine let him although i suggest he stay within his divsion maybe fight joe cal or somebody no way he wins at lightheavy,

same here but apperently he is going to light heavy he will lose but hey if he wants to dent his legacy fine let him although i suggest he stay within his divsion maybe fight joe cal or somebody no way he wins at lightheavy,


I would give him a viable chance at Johnson, but the key to beating Hopkins is to go right inside and Johnson would do that.

Calzaghe would be risky for Bernard, Hopkins shouldnt move up.

I would give him a viable chance at Johnson, but the key to beating Hopkins is to go right inside and Johnson would do that.

Calzaghe would be risky for Bernard, Hopkins shouldnt move up.

well thast the thing after tito/winky all there is left is sturm and taylor so..

well thast the thing after tito/winky all there is left is sturm and taylor so..


Taylor would only be good if he was already a superstar in the division and a house name.

God damn it, I have been wanting to see Hopkins fight Ikeke.....Although I have no complaints if Bernard does fight the winner of winky/tito and then go to face Johnson, no complaints what so ever.

Taylor would only be good if he was already a superstar in the division and a house name.

God damn it, I have been wanting to see Hopkins fight Ikeke.....Although I have no complaints if Bernard does fight the winner of winky/tito and then go to face Johnson, no complaints what so ever.


umm who is ikeke?

umm who is ikeke?
Kingsley (sp?) Ikeke. He is a Midleweight and is with GBP so it should be easy to make. Ikeke gets killed by Nard, tho.

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=017068

that "taylor is too green" **** is old and lame...its certain fighters that just have it...cotto could have fought for a 140 tittle a year ago and won it..and so would taylor...it makes me sick how ppl can say de la hoya might be hopkins..but taylor dosent stand a chance..taylor is bigger stronger and quicker then hopkins

that "taylor is too green" **** is old and lame...its certain fighters that just have it...cotto could have fought for a 140 tittle a year ago and won it..and so would taylor...it makes me sick how ppl can say de la hoya might be hopkins..but taylor dosent stand a chance..taylor is bigger stronger and quicker then hopkins


ya this to early **** is old i mean sturm already had a title 20+ fights is easly enough come on

Sturm has the tools to beat Hopkins.

Sturm has the tools to beat Hopkins.

better delte that and quick spinks or say goodbye to your karma also people might think u r euro-trash or a damn kraut as peopel but it bets save yourself now before its to late

better delte that and quick spinks or say goodbye to your karma also people might think u r euro-trash or a damn kraut as peopel but it bets save yourself now before its to late


Sturm is tall has a good reach, fights on the outside and utilizes his jab very well. Sturm has just as much chance of anybody in the division to beat Hopkins. Although Hopkins is the more seasoned fighter, Sturm has more skills than most at 160. Sturm isnt the greatest but he is better than most.

glad u see the whole picture ^^

Sturm is tall has a good reach, fights on the outside and utilizes his jab very well. Sturm has just as much chance of anybody in the division to beat Hopkins. Although Hopkins is the more seasoned fighter, Sturm has more skills than most at 160. Sturm isnt the greatest but he is better than most.

And that chance is real small :boxing:

sturm has a very small chance at beating Tito, Hopkins, or Taylor. Tito hits to hard for him imagine if he stands in front of Tito like he did in round 1 of the DlH fight, good night. Taylor would use his size and power to take sturm out as well.

didnt DLH beat the **** outta tito with the left jab till he stopped throwing it? what happens when he comes into sturm he didnt find away around oscars jab well at least not for 10 rounds what happens when sturm comes to town id love an answer for it

Oscar looked like a cream puff and was to small that means nothing.

know some people are saying Hopkins is slipping a little bit and Taylor seems to be improving. After his bout with edouard i think he should fight sterum and then fight Hopkins. I personally think he has a fair shot at beating bhop because he is naturally bigger and stronger. What do u all think.


I think Bernard should just stay away from Taylor, he is an unproven prospect who could upset him due to the age difference. A win against Taylor means nothing for Hopkins' legacy.

Taylor is great for hopkins legacy is after losing to Hopkins he goes on to dominate for some time.

well thast the thing after tito/winky all there is left is sturm and taylor so..
**** sturm his hardest punch is his jab. he still is too young for hopkins. by the way with a nam "SturmRules" of cousre you would wanna see ur babyboi get a fight wit b-hop. it would be the only fight that can get him on tv. ur a Sturm nut-hugger

didnt DLH beat the **** outta tito with the left jab till he stopped throwing it? what happens when he comes into sturm he didnt find away around oscars jab well at least not for 10 rounds what happens when sturm comes to town id love an answer for it
it wasn't DLH's jab dat had tito confused...it was DLH's lateral movement...samething with hopkins. sturm has a great jab dont get me wrong but he doesn't have the same movement that dlh or hopkins did when they fought him. if he fought tito the fight would be won on the inside.

it wasn't DLH's jab dat had tito confused...it was DLH's lateral movement...samething with hopkins. sturm has a great jab dont get me wrong but he doesn't have the same movement that dlh or hopkins did when they fought him. if he fought tito the fight would be won on the inside.

u think he doesnt have the movment but u r wrong

Jermain Taylor is gonna dethrone Hopkins in Hopkins last fight and title defense.

know some people are saying Hopkins is slipping a little bit and Taylor seems to be improving. After his bout with edouard i think he should fight sterum and then fight Hopkins. I personally think he has a fair shot at beating bhop because he is naturally bigger and stronger. What do u all think.



taylor is too green right now to face Hopkins...right now Hopkins would beat his ass...in a couple years though when Taylor gets more experience he MIGHT be able to give Hopkins a run for his money...problem is Hopkins will be retired by then.