View Full Version : Could Roy Jones Jr. Return As A Heavyweight?


Mr. Violence
02-15-2005, 11:59 PM
Now that Roy Jones Jr. has suffered two devestating losses at Light Heavyweight many people say "Well it's a good thing he didn't stay at Heavyweight imagine what a Heavyweight would have done to that chin."...ok that is a valid point...BUT another valid point is this...Roy Jones was successful in the past due to his super speed and reflexes...it appears that he has slowed down a little making it easier for opponents to hit him...this certainly appears true at Light Heavyweight. Roy no longer has a big speed advantage over Middleweights or Light Heavyweights...BUT judging from the Ruiz fight it appears that Jones does have a super speed advantage over the slow lumbering Heavyweights that thrive in that division. True if one of these slow lumbering Heavyweights connects solid on Jones it will be lights out all over again...but what is also true is-they can't knock out what they can't hit. Could Roy Jones Jr. return as a Heavyweight and be successful?

Zab Super Judah
02-16-2005, 12:02 AM
him returnign to heavyweight will answer alot of questions...i myself think he could beat people like brewster

scramwarrior
02-16-2005, 12:03 AM
I personally think he's finished. If he does go back to heavyweight, he needs to be very selective about the opponents he faces. Wait, he's been doing that his whole career....

whdempsey
02-16-2005, 12:08 AM
I don't think he will, but it wouldn't be a bad idea. The bottom line is that it would be best for him to end his career with a rematch agaist either Toney or Hopkins, and Hopkins would have to make a weight jump first.

Mr. Violence
02-16-2005, 12:09 AM
I personally think he's finished. If he does go back to heavyweight, he needs to be very selective about the opponents he faces. Wait, he's been doing that his whole career....



I'm neutral on the issue...since i'm niether a fan of Jones nor a hater of Jones...ha ha ha...but watch the Roy fans attack you in droves by that statement you just made... :D :bottle:

joeboxer
02-16-2005, 12:33 AM
No, he's totally right. Even if you love Jones you have to admit he is very selective, even he says he is. When you are the man, why risk it for not a lot of money?

I'd like to see him beat Ruiz again and then retire. Toney would be a great fight too but he has less of a chance there.

dino
02-16-2005, 12:35 AM
if roy cant take a glencoff johnson punch..how the hell will he take a v.klitchko punch...i love roy jones..but klitchko would drop him with a jab

marvdave
02-16-2005, 12:38 AM
i personally don't think he could. His reflexes are not what they used to be. And coming off of two devastating ko's, I wish he would stop fighting period. I would hate to see him get seriously hurt. The way he got ko'ed both times was ugly. Once a guy gets hurt that bad, it's hard to ever fight the same..escpecially for a guy who never got hit for 12 previous years.

Floydmayweather
02-16-2005, 01:13 AM
I am the biggest Roy fan ever and i think going to heavyweight is a terrible idea.

adeelr
02-16-2005, 01:33 AM
its not a very good idea to go to heawyweight, he should go back to lightheavy, his reflexes are not the same but still enough to get glencoff and tarver....His combos are still brutal...

Eken
02-16-2005, 06:58 AM
Roy Jones Jr is still a lot faster than most heavyweights but with that chin of his I wouldn't risk anything :eek:

Fareastwarrior
02-16-2005, 07:26 AM
Going back to the Heavyweight division is suicide action for Roy. He's not the Roy Jones JR he used to be, slow speed and a very vulnerable chin. That he beat John Ruiz doesn't say anything, let him face Vitali Klitschko or Mike Tyson and it's all lights out for Roy. So, let him stay at the Light Heavyweight division where he personnaly can revenge for his last two losses.

Mr. Violence
02-16-2005, 09:34 AM
Going back to the Heavyweight division is suicide action for Roy. He's not the Roy Jones JR he used to be, slow speed and a very vulnerable chin. That he beat John Ruiz doesn't say anything, let him face Vitali Klitschko or Mike Tyson and it's all lights out for Roy. So, let him stay at the Light Heavyweight division where he personnaly can revenge for his last two losses.



the point is Roy Jones may have lost some speed...but when he moves up to Heavyweight he still is a lot quicker then those slow big clumsy Heavyweights whose punches you can see coming a mile away.

jack_the_rippuh
02-16-2005, 09:49 AM
Roy coming back to the heavyweight division can be exciting...he brings alot to the table in terms of excitement...Maybe he can get his act together and take the game more seriously since some of his natural gifts are fading away..

Neuraxis
02-16-2005, 01:49 PM
Roy coming back to the heavyweight division can be exciting...he brings alot to the table in terms of excitement...Maybe he can get his act together and take the game more seriously since some of his natural gifts are fading away..

Exciting? Well I guess watching someone die in the ring would be exciting, but come on man.

xrhythmxnxbluesx
02-16-2005, 01:53 PM
if he had stayed in the heavyweight i could see him fighting vitali for the title... and win...

Neuraxis
02-16-2005, 02:04 PM
if he had stayed in the heavyweight i could see him fighting vitali for the title... and win...

Well you need to look into getting yourself some glasses.

SouthBayBboy
02-16-2005, 02:06 PM
I personally think he's finished. If he does go back to heavyweight, he needs to be very selective about the opponents he faces. Wait, he's been doing that his whole career....


Please explain, because it seems to me that you have NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I'm serious, explain how you came to this conclusion.

ophqui
02-16-2005, 02:07 PM
Its a shame, but its over for roy in reality. Heavies have far too much power for him and his chin, any of the top 5 heavies would k.o him in a few rounds, even with the division as crappy as it is at the moment. LMAO at the person whio said he'd beat vitali

Crouching Tiger
02-16-2005, 02:27 PM
Return as HW and face the likes of Vitaly or Toney? He'll get massacred! And if he selects his opponents, nobody will be watching! I think he's better off sticking to his commentator job.

whdempsey
02-16-2005, 02:35 PM
None of us actually knows how good his chin will be. You don't just lose your chin like that witout a catalyst. I think it was losing too much weight. After all, prior to the weight loss he was closer to stopping a heavyweight than he was to being stopped by a heavyweight (see round 4 Jones-Ruiz). Perhaps moving back up will fix it.

Super_Lightweight
02-16-2005, 02:35 PM
Listen, Roy's body was damaged on some degree permanently in my opinion when he lost the muscle, and subsequently, when Tarver landed that punch Roy has become even more susceptible to being KO'd. Before that he had taken good shots from Ruiz and Tarver in the first fight.

Now, as a result of age, a general weakining of his body, and being more prone to concussions as a result of that wonder hit by Tarver, Roy is more likely to get hurt. Going up to heavyweight will not help that in my opinion at all.

whdempsey
02-16-2005, 02:40 PM
Listen, Roy's body was damaged on some degree permanently in my opinion when he lost the muscle, and subsequently, when Tarver landed that punch Roy has become even more susceptible to being KO'd. Before that he had taken good shots from Ruiz and Tarver in the first fight.

Now, as a result of age, a general weakening of his body, and being more prone to concussions as a result of that wonder hit by Tarver, Roy is more likely to get hurt. Going up to heavyweight will not help that in my opinion at all.
Hey, I don't mind it. What you said might be right. I was purely speculating. And I appreciate your tone, especially when compared to some douches' here (cough-Neuraxis-cough). Nice post.

tri4ben2
02-16-2005, 04:40 PM
If he fights any top 10 heavyweight, it will only be a question of how long he can go without getting rocked and can he win some boring ass rounds where they both stand there and he pot shots them.

Against Brewster, I think that RJJ wins every round that he does not get KOed in.

Against VK, VK is even more cautious than normal at the beginning and gets a KO off of a stiff jab (not those pawing jabs that one theoretically can get under.

joeboxer
02-16-2005, 04:53 PM
Exciting? Well I guess watching someone die in the ring would be exciting, but come on man.


If Roy died can you imagine that P4p number 1 in 2004 dead in 2005, what a fall.