Apparently I never guard the appropriate side of my face for long enough and fail to read what punches are coming to me often enough for me to dedicate my guard to that punch...or the anticipation of it.

I have every respect for the rotation of trainers I work with but I know the guy I usually work with wouldn't have pulled this on me.

He placed me in a ring for 4 rounds with a guy double the size of me and told me to guard light jabbing to my head - I was cool with this as I was lucky to be working with one of the more experienced lads...but this guy went all out for a knockout after 2 rounds of sparring with him. He caught me heavy on my right and I staggered - then he went all out on me.

I don't want to sound like I can't take heat - but when I was told I was be receiving light jabs after a workout then that's what I expect to be getting. The trainer wasn't impressed either but in my opinion he should have known better in the first place.

I jerked my hip when I was awkwardly trying to avoid his heavier punches when he went at me and it twinged while I was running the next day - So now I'm really angry at this guy because it's putting me on hold.

Any thoughts?

Did you have any headgear on? What are the sizes of your and his gloves? If he wants to go all out make him wear 18oz or 20oz gloves. And tell him you get to wear 10 or 12oz gloves. And that he gets to wear no headgear.

I was wearing headgear and he wasn't. As far as I know we were both wearing 14oz gloves - I know I was but I don't know what he was wearing.

My point was that I expected him to do what the trainer said - work around my head and force me to jab until the end of the session, then him and my trainer would give me feedback and something to work on.

Instead I get slammed by some Foreman s***.

Did you talk to the trainer about this? If he's twice your size he should have been wearing bigger gloves. IMO the trainer should've ticked him off once he knew something was off at the beginning of the 2nd round. How heavy is he? How heavy are you?

Man it's boxing, getting a rough time in sparring is part of the sport. Even top fighters have days in sparring where they get outhustled or knocked around. Train hard, fight easy.

**** like this happens to me all the time because I train at a lame ass MMA-Boxing hybrid gym, where the MMA fighters out number the boxers. MMA dudes don't even know how to spar, they think it's going all out and trying to win a ****ing sparring match. It's more about practicing your technique full-on. I'm sick of my gym, I rarely go in. It's a shame I'm not able to reach a farther gym, because I feel I have potential, but this potential will be thrown away.

I maintain my weight at 150-155lbs - I can honestly say this guy must have been around 180lbs+ and with a far greater reach than me.

Don't get me wrong my trainer was none too happy with what he did - but he didn't go as far as to admit to me that he made a crummy decision which ended up with me getting hurt when I wasn't ready.

The guy I was sparring with claimed I was in the wrong sport if I was going to freak out over some heat being turned on to me in sparring. It's not my problem if this guy can't follow basic commands.

I maintain my weight at 150-155lbs - I can honestly say this guy must have been around 180lbs+ and with a far greater reach than me.

Don't get me wrong my trainer was none too happy with what he did - but he didn't go as far as to admit to me that he made a crummy decision which ended up with me getting hurt when I wasn't ready.

The guy I was sparring with claimed I was in the wrong sport if I was going to freak out over some heat being turned on to me in sparring. It's not my problem if this guy can't follow basic commands.

Well no offence dude but he's right. Fair enough if he was told to work with you he should have. But you shouldnt make such a big deal out of it. Man on my 2nd day of being in a new gym i sparred the coaches son who is a very good fighter and weighed like 75kg (165lbs) to my 44kg (100 or so lbs). He didn't go hard obviously but he still hit me a ****load and i was battered as hell afterwards. But i came back and kept training and that's what you gotta do. And that's nothign to what my friend has been through. He's 66kg so when he spars the coaches son the coaches son used to put a nasty whooping on him. Not malicious but pretty hard. And he sparred other dudes older than him who he used to go toe to toe with. And guess what, it helps you, makes you tough as hell and when my friend had his first fight recently he looked like he had already had 7 or 8. And as soon as i started with that new gym and did tough sparring with bigger older dudes i won 3 fights in a row in like 3 months, went from being **** to being decent.

So i know im ranting but this **** helps you man. I mean as long as you ain't so battered you have bad headaches or broken nose etc you will be fine.

Well no offence dude but he's right. Fair enough if he was told to work with you he should have. But you shouldnt make such a big deal out of it. Man on my 2nd day of being in a new gym i sparred the coaches son who is a very good fighter and weighed like 75kg (165lbs) to my 44kg (100 or so lbs). He didn't go hard obviously but he still hit me a ****load and i was battered as hell afterwards. But i came back and kept training and that's what you gotta do. And that's nothign to what my friend has been through. He's 66kg so when he spars the coaches son the coaches son used to put a nasty whooping on him. Not malicious but pretty hard. And he sparred other dudes older than him who he used to go toe to toe with. And guess what, it helps you, makes you tough as hell and when my friend had his first fight recently he looked like he had already had 7 or 8. And as soon as i started with that new gym and did tough sparring with bigger older dudes i won 3 fights in a row in like 3 months, went from being **** to being decent.

So i know im ranting but this **** helps you man. I mean as long as you ain't so battered you have bad headaches or broken nose etc you will be fine.

I know in the long run it builds up toughness.

All I'm saying is he was told to light spar and work on my guard - he did it fine until something snapped and he went at me like I had just slapped his mother.

When I'm paying through the teeth to be trained to a standard set by the trainers - in all honestly I expect it to happen...not for some hothead to injure me and hamper my progress. If I had been ready for him to come at me hard I would have been able to evade him better and lay some on him. I was focusing on his hands and the pattern of his jabs - and he was supposed to be limited to throwing jabs. Then he starts throwing hooks and hitting me with hard body shots.

If I was doing some regular sparring with him then fine. Not when I'm supposed to be doing a specific task and so is he and he decided to ruin it for both of us.

I would have clearly stated & requested the ground rules before starting.

Then if the dumb ass had gone all out to knock the crap outa me when i was expecting a light jab practicing session i would have called a quick time out to question wtf he was doing.

Then draw a quick line under it and move on making a mental note that next time i am in the ring with the sparing idiot to always expect the unexpected.

The End.

Well no offence dude but he's right. Fair enough if he was told to work with you he should have. But you shouldnt make such a big deal out of it. Man on my 2nd day of being in a new gym i sparred the coaches son who is a very good fighter and weighed like 75kg (165lbs) to my 44kg (100 or so lbs). He didn't go hard obviously but he still hit me a ****load and i was battered as hell afterwards. But i came back and kept training and that's what you gotta do. And that's nothign to what my friend has been through. He's 66kg so when he spars the coaches son the coaches son used to put a nasty whooping on him. Not malicious but pretty hard. And he sparred other dudes older than him who he used to go toe to toe with. And guess what, it helps you, makes you tough as hell and when my friend had his first fight recently he looked like he had already had 7 or 8. And as soon as i started with that new gym and did tough sparring with bigger older dudes i won 3 fights in a row in like 3 months, went from being **** to being decent.

So i know im ranting but this **** helps you man. I mean as long as you ain't so battered you have bad headaches or broken nose etc you will be fine.

I would have clearly stated & requested the ground rules before starting.

Then if the dumb ass had gone all out to knock the crap outa me when i was expecting a light jab practicing session i would have called a quick time out to question wtf he was doing.

Then draw a quick line under it and move on making a mental note that next time i am in the ring with the sparing idiot to always expect the unexpected.

The End.

I would say that's the exact case with him now - I know he's a twat.

ur only 16...times on your side...forget about it

30lbs isnt a huge weight diffrence. anyways, yeah the guy shouldnt have jumped on u ike that, but it happens. i remember once i was pissed cuz it was only my third time sparring, i had only been training 2-3 weeks and this guy much bigger and more experienced beat me up. thats boxing though. just train hard and get him back.

30lbs isnt a huge weight diffrence. anyways, yeah the guy shouldnt have jumped on u ike that, but it happens. i remember once i was pissed cuz it was only my third time sparring, i had only been training 2-3 weeks and this guy much bigger and more experienced beat me up. thats boxing though. just train hard and get him back.

Uhh yeah it is

Uhh yeah it is

i meant its not a huge deal for sparring. back when i was at 141 i sparred guys 200+.

i know 30lbs is a big diffrence, but this guy was acting like he shouldnt be in the ring with this guy to begin with and making a big deal out of teh size. in sparring 30lbs isnt a big deal. that was my point, i thought it was obvious. my bad.

30lbs is a big a difference in my opinion, especially if he's tryying to go all out. I train at a gym with mainly grown adults, I'm the only 115lb'er sparring guys much much bigger than me, even 200+ (half of which are out of shape). So I know how frustrating unfairity is. I blame it mainly on trainers who make bad decisions, and my trainers are terrible and posses no logic what-so ever. And getting the **** kicked out of you doesn't make you better, nor do I believe it makes you tougher, but that's my opinion and it's arguable. All I'm saying is I feel for you, cause you went into that ring with an understanding of it being light, and that guy burst out trying to kick the **** out of you, in which you were not prepared for.

I had to explain my injury to my main trainer and he was furious when he found out what had happened.

I don't care what weight is acceptable and what is unacceptable - I'm paying to have my skills honed, and when I'm supposed to be working on my guard I expect to be working on my guard. And that's the exact point my trainer made when he found out.

The guy is about 6 years older than me - far more experienced and heavier. He was supposed to be lightly sparring to work on my guard...and tried to knock me out.

No matter how you look at it - he's a twat.

well i sparr guys much heavier then myself and it rarely bothers me. maybe its cuz im so abnormally tall for my weight. im 6'3 1/2 so even HWs and super HWs are rarely much taller than me. so without a big height disadvantage (sometimes im even taller) and with my speed advantage i can do pretty well. im a boxer anyways so i do what i always do, they rarely get to me so their strenght dont matter much. maybe im just used to it, always sparred bigger guys.

every time that Ive stepped into a ring to spar with "an agreement" I find that talk is worth ****. "ya, lets just work light, move around..." In time you will find that when you step into a ring basicaly anything goes.

What I do is work to their level/intensity. If they say we'll work light and he does then I will do the same. If they turn it up then I will turn mine up just that little bit more than theirs.

3 instances of somebody coming up and saying, "lets just work light."
1. Salmaci at the contender auditions. Before I even knew we were matched he comes up and says if we get matched lets just work, move around abit. I say ok. First thing he does from the bell is comes out with like 3 jabs and triples up the hook, **** I stuck my right hand on his nose and we started fighting.
2. Al Irish laughs when I say I'll work with him. He doesnt know me and probably has me by 50lbs. He says well just work light with the left hand, just move around. So the bell rings and hes rolling out like 6-7 hooks in a row. Im catching them all on my open glove thats placed beside my head. I say F**K this and drive my right fist square into his face. He backs up, rubs his nose and claims that he'll knock me out. I laugh and tell him to bring it, that hes got nothin' I havent already been through or seen. He takes his gloves off and leaves.
3. Im set to spar with a heavyweight and his trainer tells me that we are just going to "work light". I know his trainer and its all good. So we start up and this guys wingin' 'em hard with what hes got. I played till he landed a good one. The next shot I rolled and countered with a straight right on his forehead, his eyes roll up and he falls back and down.

If they fight you then fight them back, thats what your there to do. Dont take any ****. Some you'll come out ahead and some you wont, but you have to fight. Cant learn to fight if you never do...............Rockin':boxing: