I think Sturm would move around is that shell defence and that jab to disrupt tito and maybe let tito get tired. Tito is very very uneasy on his legs in the first rounds so i think a quick left hook from sturm could score a flash KD. im trying to have a intellegent discussion here i think sturms style would beat tito.

You're a moron so it's impossible to have an intelligent discussion with you.

Sturm by flash knock out? Go kill yourself.

Tito hasn't shown a huge tendency to get tired. In fact, he's generally a slow starter who finishes strong.

He'll walk right through Sturms jabs and unload with better powerpunches. He'll get hit a lot because Sturm has faster hands. Here's the problem for Sturm: Tito is incredibly accurate for such a good powerpuncher. He'll land consistently, go to the body well, and probably knock Sturm, who has a largely unproven chin, out.

Of course, I could be completely wrong. Mebbe he's not any better than he was a few years ago, and mebbe he'll have just as much trouble with movers at the elite level. If he does have such a weakness, though, I don't think Sturm will be the one to expose it.

You're a moron so it's impossible to have an intelligent discussion with you.

Sturm by flash knock out? Go kill yourself.

i said score a flash knock down to better improve his UD win u **** face woops forgot to put that in the first post ^^ but sturm by UD and btw sturm is acurate himself and i dont see how u think tito will walk right through his jab when others think its the best one in boxing lol

and plz stop saying go kill yourself its gettign very offence if u dont think sturm will win explain it liek the guy above did dont flame give reasons

I dont know how sturdy Sturms chin is, however, he has what seems to be a very tight defense and he has a very strong torso. Add to that the fact that he's probably physically bigger than Tito...I think he'd have just as good a chance as anybody to beat Trinidad. Should Sturm stick that jab down Tito's throat all night it'd be a long fight for Tito. Tito is very accurate with his power shots to Sturm would have to move and would absolutely have to put more punches behind his jab. For me, the fight would depend on how well Sturm deals with Tito's power shots and whether or not he could avoid some of them.

You're a moron so it's impossible to have an intelligent discussion with you.

Sturm by flash knock out? Go kill yourself.


Tito is very vulnerable to flash KD's...its not rocket science. Yory Boy Campas among other hit him with a short, hard hook that floored him. Sturm could definitely do the same.

and btw sturm is acurate himself and i dont see how u think tito will walk right through his jab when others think its the best one in boxing

Your homosexual lover Sturm is a bum who's claim to fame is outjabbing the lightweight midget Oscar De La Hoya.

Felix getting tired down the stretch? This is a guy who took 12 rounds of beating from Bernard Hopkins and was still breathing through his nose and coming forward in the 12th.

Go get a life you idiot.

tito has 9 knockdowns in his career someoen asked that before and some of us said 4 lol but if u watch the fll fight of tito/mayorga jim lamply says he had 8 before the fight and mayorga got credit for 1 so that makes 9

Your homosexual lover Sturm is a bum who's claim to fame is outjabbing the lightweight midget Oscar De La Hoya.

Felix getting tired down the stretch? This is a guy who took 12 rounds of beating from Bernard Hopkins and was still breathing through his nose and coming forward in the 12th.

Go get a life you idiot.

yes but sturms defence invites shots and tito will throw them if he can i doubt tito can throw his bests shots at a target for 12 rounds

yes but sturms defence invites shots and tito will throw them if he can i doubt tito can throw his bests shots at a target for 12 rounds

He did it for 8 full rounds against Ricardo Mayorga after 2 years off you botched abortion.

He did it for 8 full rounds against Ricardo Mayorga after 2 years off you botched abortion.

ya isnt mayorga also a blown up welterweight that he took 8 rounds to get rid of? what happens when a another real middlewieght liek sturm or taylor who r just bigger stronger guys get at him? i still think titos power is overrated at middle

I think Sturm would move around is that shell defence and that jab to disrupt tito and maybe let tito get tired. Tito is very very uneasy on his legs in the first rounds so i think a quick left hook from sturm could score a flash KD. im trying to have a intellegent discussion here i think sturms style would beat tito.

U actually expect that a "turtle" defense would work on tito? Watch what he dos to WInky then we'll talk.

ya isnt mayorga also a blown up welterweight that he took 8 rounds to get rid of? what happens when a another real middlewieght liek sturm or taylor who r just bigger stronger guys get at him? i still think titos power is overrated at middle

he knocked out Joppy whos a legit middle whom hopkins couldnt put to sleep.

ya isnt mayorga also a blown up welterweight that he took 8 rounds to get rid of?

So is Felix and Mayorga has one of the best - if not THE best -- chin in all of boxing.

what happens when a another real middlewieght liek sturm or taylor who r just bigger stronger guys get at him?

If you think that feather fisted, punk ***** Felix Sturm WHO COUDLN"T EVEN PUT AWAY A LIGHTWEIGHT midget IN OSCAR DE LA HOYA, is stronger than Felix than you've been sucking down more of Sturm's pimp juice than you've let on.

U actually expect that a "turtle" defense would work on tito? Watch what he dos to WInky then we'll talk.

i doubt he will get pass winky

So is Felix and Mayorga has one of the best - if not THE best -- chin in all of boxing.



If you think that feather fisted, punk ***** Felix Sturm WHO COUDLN"T EVEN PUT AWAY A LIGHTWEIGHT midget IN OSCAR DE LA HOYA, is stronger than Felix than you've been sucking down more of Sturm's pimp juice than you've let on.


at least he beat DLH unlike tito and he KO cheriffi a round faster then tito huh what u say about that punk ****

he knocked out Joppy whos a legit middle whom hopkins couldnt put to sleep.

u know boxing is like that B-hop still beat joppy and he KO'd tito also

at least he beat DLH

By jabbing the little guy to death?

HOW TOUGH!

ahahahahahhahaha. Sturm is a weak sack of ****, and the DLH fight proved that. On the other hand, DLH actually RESPECTED Felix's power and boxed and ran the whole fight.

and he KO cheriffi a round faster

Oh you mean when Cheriffi took a DIVE on the bodyshot, and got up smiling as soon as the ref called it off.

ahahahahhaah. Get a life you homosexual.

By jabbing the little guy to death?

HOW TOUGH!

ahahahahahhahaha. Sturm is a weak sack of ****, and the DLH fight proved that. On the other hand, DLH actually RESPECTED Felix's power and boxed and ran the whole fight.



Oh you mean when Cheriffi took a DIVE on the bodyshot, and got up smiling as soon as the ref called it off.

ahahahahhaah. Get a life you homosexual.


im not seeing a smile on his face dude.....

Trinidad vs Sturm would be a good fight...The problem is that Trinidad contract with Don is a minimum of 10 mill per fight and a Sturm-Tito fight won't generate that kind of dope..That's why Trinidad is fighting guys like Mayorga and Winky cuz that are huge ppv..Sturm needs to fight more here in the USA and look good doing it. :boxing:

tito also has a don king in his cornor :X

You weren't at the fight, idiot. His back was turned and he simply waitied on his knee and got up after the count smirking. He even pointed to his corner and the ref in the middle of the count to signal he wasn't going to get up, and spit out his mouthpiece.

Save your Sturm bull**** for someone who hasn't seen nearly all of his fights.

You weren't at the fight, idiot. His back was turned and he simply waitied on his knee and got up after the count smirking. He even pointed to his corner and the ref in the middle of the count to signal he wasn't going to get up, and spit out his mouthpiece.

Save your Sturm bull**** for someone who hasn't seen nearly all of his fights.

ive got the mother****ing fight right here ya he wasnt getting up the body shot was it probally signaling to his cornor that he couldnt after they were trying to tell him to stand. man u r ****ign up my thread and getting me to flame back at you.

He took a KNEE on a hit to the abs...not the kidney, not the liver. He gave up and took the DIVE, he got up right after the 10 count smirking with his BACK TO THE CAMERA...you didn't see it on tape...I DID. I also have the broadcast on tape and his back was turned.

And this thread was **** ot begin with, so don't worry about me ruining it.

lol took a knee if u wanna talk stop doing it out of yr ass

and if u r talking about homo's look who u got in your ****ign sig i bet u kiss a james toney poster every night dont u

In other words, you give up.

Surrender accepted.

Sturm can't punch look at his knock out ratio...Tito wins by KO.

In other words, you give up.

Surrender accepted.



who what when where huh?

Sturm can't punch look at his knock out ratio...Tito wins by KO.


im srry so if someoen cant punch or knockout people they will lose?

Don't try to backpeddal SturmMoron, you claimed Sturm would flash knock down Felix, wear him out, and that he was a strong middleweight. All of that stands in the face of the FACT that Sturm can't even knockout Euro bums.

Don't try to backpeddal SturmMoron, you claimed Sturm would flash knock down Felix, wear him out, and that he was a strong middleweight. All of that stands in the face of the FACT that Sturm can't even knockout Euro bums.

he has 10 knockouts lol 50% isnt great but it isnt horrible so he isnt a huge puncher and dude tito has 9 knockdowns in his career and all of em cept 1 where flash knockdowns bro

second if u hate sturm so much why do u have the tape of him and hssine? ha got u know **** tard that is unless u r a fan of cheriffi

he has 10 knockouts

Case closed. He punches like a woman, and the DLH fight proved it.

Jab jab jab!

second if u hate sturm so much why do u have the tape of him and hssine?

So I can make educated comments on boxing unlike you. Hell, I even have a library of John Ruiz fights but it doesn't mean I'm a fan.

trinidad will win anytime

not only that he has power, he has a killer instinct which i did not saw in sturm when he fought dela hoya

Case closed. He punches like a woman, and the DLH fight proved it.

Jab jab jab!



So I can make educated comments on boxing unlike you. Hell, I even have a library of John Ruiz fights but it doesn't mean I'm a fan.


so educated boxing fans call peopel euro**** and to tell people to kill themselves? thank god im a boxing retard then :rolleyes:

trinidad will win anytime

not only that he has power, he has a killer instinct which i did not saw in sturm when he fought dela hoya


plz someone explain to me this rule that iof u dont go for the KO your arent a good boxer and if u KO everyone you are the god almighty i am truly failign to see this concept on this u have to KO to be good thing

so educated boxing fans call peopel euro****

I called Sturm's opponent ********* -- and that's putting it nicely.

and to tell people to kill themselves?

You should -- and quickly.

thank god im a boxing retard then

At least you admit it.

u know boxing is like that B-hop still beat joppy and he KO'd tito also

You were questioning Tito's power at middle. It's legit.

Sturm needs more than his jab and movement to beat Tito. The jab will give Tito some problems early but once Tito realizes nothing is really coming after that jab he will start to unleash more punches. Bodyshots will be the downfall of Sturms hands up defense and then it will be the end of Sturm's chances of beating Tito.

Well said!

plz someone explain to me this rule that iof u dont go for the KO your arent a good boxer and if u KO everyone you are the god almighty i am truly failign to see this concept on this u have to KO to be good thing
That wasn't what he said. Reread it. He said Sturm seems to lack killer instinct, not that he's a bad fighter. They're two different statements, and you've put a spin on his statement.

he has 10 knockouts lol 50% isnt great but it isnt horrible so he isnt a huge puncher and dude tito has 9 knockdowns in his career and all of em cept 1 where flash knockdowns bro

second if u hate sturm so much why do u have the tape of him and hssine? ha got u know **** tard that is unless u r a fan of cheriffi
Less than 50% is pretty bad for someone who has less than twenty five fights and very little world-class experience. Plus, it's not just a matter of ratios. Looks at Daniel Edouard's record and listen to what people say about him. If you're working solely from ratios, then the two don't match up. But Edouard has a very different approach to boxing than Sturm, which means that people view his power in very different ways. See what I'm saying?

How can you be so blind as do claim Sturm could conceivably win this fight? Beating up on Oscar De La Hoya doesn't make you good. Look at Shane Mosley, lol

and if u r talking about homo's look who u got in your ****ign sig i bet u kiss a james toney poster every night dont u
And I bet you can shut the **** up very nicely. Don't bother calling JT gay. When you do, everyone realizes you're either very misled, or very immature. He's the man, and he's headed to the hall of fame, regardless of whether he beats Klitschko. So **** you very much.

Tito would not sterum out in less than 5.

Tito would not sterum out in less than 5.


i see my horrible speeling is starting to spread lol

That wasn't what he said. Reread it. He said Sturm seems to lack killer instinct, not that he's a bad fighter. They're two different statements, and you've put a spin on his statement.

and what is killer instinct huh?

Hahaha, only one vote for Sturm. I wonder who it was...lol

Tito wins convincingly.

I actually see sturm winning this fight....in his dreams he actually may have a chance, slim but a chance.

Hahaha, only one vote for Sturm. I wonder who it was...lol

Tito wins convincingly.
More than i expected, i thought sturmrules over here was just joking around

This fight would be the typical Trinidad fight.
Sturm will have some success early but will evntually start getting tagged.
After the first decent Trinidad punch, the fight will swing into Tito's favor.


By the 7th or 8th round Sturm will get blitzed.

Sturm is an ordinary fighter. He can box, & has a very nice jab.
If this was all it took to beat Trinidad, Tito would already be finished as an elite fighter.
Sturm just doesn't do anything special.

I think I'm going to quote Don King on this one. Sturm's chances are "slim to none and slim has left the building."

im guessing a majority of u have only seen DLH/sturm if so i shoulda known u guys no nothign about sturm at all if he think for a second sturm will fight tito the way he fought dlh your dead wrong o so wrong and if im not mistaken didnt DLH shove his left jab and tito for a while in there fight? lmao whats he gonna do with sturms?

Sturmrules.....


O.K.......you've done enough talking about this guy.
We know you're head over heels in love with him, that's obvious.
There is absolutely no reason to gush so much over a guy who has done so little....unless you're a chick who thinks he's hot, a *** who thinks he's hot, or the damn KRAUT you are afraid to admit you are.

who what when where huh?


You forgot how and why. :D

Sturmrules.....


O.K.......you've done enough talking about this guy.
We know you're head over heels in love with him, that's obvious.
There is absolutely no reason to gush so much over a guy who has done so little....unless you're a chick who thinks he's hot, a *** who thinks he's hot, or the damn KRAUT you are afraid to admit you are.

that was pretty low man arent there damn moderators on this board trying to get rid of guys like you? isnt this a boxing forum i thought it was no reason why i cant talk about a boxer.

The moderators read what I wrote & are thinking...."Wow, 'jabsRstiff' really hit that one on the head."

im guessing a majority of u have only seen DLH/sturm if so i shoulda known u guys no nothign about sturm at all if he think for a second sturm will fight tito the way he fought dlh your dead wrong o so wrong and if im not mistaken didnt DLH shove his left jab and tito for a while in there fight? lmao whats he gonna do with sturms?
I also saw the Cherifi fight and, to me, it looked like Cherifi took a dive. Even if he didn't, he is waaaaaaay past the prime and he should be considered a gatekeeper at best (a la Leija).

Sturm doesn't have the tools to beat any elite fighter at 160 (not including DLH, obviously)

Look Sturm gotta another vote, hes going to catch up quick at this rate.

SturmRules and Sun*****kid56 both picked Sturm . I would expect this from SturmRules but nobody else. Sturm gave DLH too much respect and if he does the same vs Tito, it will end in a 3rd KO if not 1st

that was pretty low man arent there damn moderators on this board trying to get rid of guys like you? isnt this a boxing forum i thought it was no reason why i cant talk about a boxer.
start by talking about one who has boxed some real fighters

Trinidad by KO in 4

SturmRules...I don't know what else you are looking for from this thread. Do you want everyone who favors tito to just jump on the Sturm band wagon and believe what you say? We all know Sturm is strong and has a nice jab...but he's done very little other to suggest that he would beat a world class guy with a p4p punch. I agree with Jabs...the moderators are probably laughing at you for having such a blatant love affair with a rather ordinary fighter.

SturmRules...I don't know what else you are looking for from this thread. Do you want everyone who favors tito to just jump on the Sturm band wagon and believe what you say? We all know Sturm is strong and has a nice jab...but he's done very little other to suggest that he would beat a world class guy with a p4p punch. I agree with Jabs...the moderators are probably laughing at you for having such a blatant love affair with a rather ordinary fighter.

what i had expect was reasons why and intellegent reasonings and i dotn care what the mods think about how much i love sturm isnt it in the rules u can shoot that racial **** and tell peopel to kill themselves?

what i had expect was reasons why and intellegent reasonings and i dotn care what the mods think about how much i love sturm isnt it in the rules u can shoot that racial **** and tell peopel to kill themselves?


People have given intelligent responses. Just because they aren't the responses you were PRAYING for, doesn't mean they aren't valid.

You are the one who has to prove his case, because your boy has it all stacked against him.

You guys are even crazy to consider that Sturm is a contender for Tito!There is no way that this fight could even go the distance. I see Trinidad knocking out Felix in less than 4 rounds

I'd put everything I have on Felix winning the fight.

People have given intelligent responses. Just because they aren't the responses you were PRAYING for, doesn't mean they aren't valid.

You are the one who has to prove his case, because your boy has it all stacked against him.


1. Felix sturm has height and reach advantage

2. Oscar gave tito tons of problems with his left jab tito couldnt do anythign about it till oscar stopped throwing it. Whats he gonna do when he goes up agsint sturm who has arugably the best jab in boxing today.

3. For those of you who thinks sturm is gonna be staionary like he did agasint DLH your dead wrong. Sturm can do the exact same thign oscar did agasint tito but for a full 12 rounds with a better jab.

4. His defence along with movment is gonna frustrate(sp) tito all night long he wont know what to do.

Sturm will win because of his style its perfect for beating tito the onyl way i see him losing is IF big IF he has no chin. What if he can take tito's power huh would u still pick tito to win?

i gave intellegent reasons u guys just throw racial **** out there its not impossible for sturm to win as u guys are putting it not at all.

You have seen all of Sturm's attributes on display against mediocrities.....even Oscar, who on the night he fought Sturm, was a fat, disinterested, & underpowered middleweight.

All of Sturm's attributes go out the window when he faces Trinidad.
Yeah, his jab will work for a while, but he eventually will start getting caught, because he is ill-prepared to handle the Trinidad attack.

You have seen all of Sturm's attributes on display against mediocrities.....even Oscar, who on the night he fought Sturm, was a fat, disinterested, & underpowered middleweight.

All of Sturm's attributes go out the window when he faces Trinidad.
Yeah, his jab will work for a while, but he eventually will start getting caught, because he is ill-prepared to handle the Trinidad attack.


i dont see where u can draw that from

SturmRules...I don't know what else you are looking for from this thread. Do you want everyone who favors tito to just jump on the Sturm band wagon and believe what you say? We all know Sturm is strong and has a nice jab...but he's done very little other to suggest that he would beat a world class guy with a p4p punch. I agree with Jabs...the moderators are probably laughing at you for having such a blatant love affair with a rather ordinary fighter.

what happened to


This is sickening. Tito isn't "too strong" for Sturm...he's actually going to be the smaller man. Sturm has incredibly tight defense and a very strong torso. I will bet any one of you who is taking Tito that this fight doesn't end in a KO. Tito won't be able to adjust to that jackhammer jab down his throat all night. If Sturm puts a few more punches behind that great jab, he could definitely take a UD. It will be a close fight either way however.

:(

i dont see where u can draw that from

The fact that Trinidad is a lb4lber....as a fighter & as a puncher.
Sturm is a DECENT fighter with little experience. Throw the Oscar fight out because Oscar didn't belong in a ring that night....especially with a middleweight.



I'm drawing my conclusion from a more sound place than yours.

The fact that Trinidad is a lb4lber....as a fighter & as a puncher.
Sturm is a DECENT fighter with little experience. Throw the Oscar fight out because Oscar didn't belong in a ring that night....especially with a middleweight.



I'm drawing my conclusion from a more sound place than yours.

so tito being a pound for pound makes him automaticly beat sturm? lmao ok if u say so :rolleyes:


style makes fights and sturms will beat titos

so tito being a pound for pound makes him automaticly beat sturm? lmao ok if u say so :rolleyes:


style makes fights and sturms will beat titos


You are the typically ignorant person who thinks Tito is just so easy to outbox.
If it was so....he'd have been beaten quite a bit already.


Styles do indeed make fights....& Sturm is not a good enough fighter to beat Trinidad.

You are the typically ignorant person who thinks Tito is just so easy to outbox.
If it was so....he'd have been beaten quite a bit already.


Styles do indeed make fights....& Sturm is not a good enough fighter to beat Trinidad.


i never said tito was easy to outbox but if there is soemone who could do it its sturm lmao. and if u disagree u name someone right now who coudl outbox tito

i never said tito was easy to outbox but if there is soemone who could do it its sturm lmao. and if u disagree u name someone right now who coudl outbox tito


Hopkins has outboxed Tito, & would do so again.

Sturm should not even be mentioned in the same breath as Bernard Hopkins, in terms of boxing ability.

Hopkins has outboxed Tito, & would do so again.

Sturm should not even be mentioned in the same breath as Bernard Hopkins, in terms of boxing ability.

i was hoping u would surpirse me and give me not such an obvious answer? just hopkisn huh? and of course u cant compare hopkisn adn sturm right now sturm is just starting and B hop is finishing his rein der

i was hoping u would surpirse me and give me not such an obvious answer? just hopkisn huh? and of course u cant compare hopkisn adn sturm right now sturm is just starting and B hop is finishing his rein der


It's not the obvious answer....it's the ONLY answer.

It's not the obvious answer....it's the ONLY answer.

i get it... i hope Hopkins does leaves middlewieght after eastman and tito wins cause sturm will be right around the cornor