Anyone else here this story?
Some crazy ****.. Some homo was having orgies with other guys while taking Crystal Meth and he contracted a new strand of the HIV virus.
The thing about this case is that it becomes Aids much much faster and none of the drugs what generally work on HIV patients, to slow down the process of the virus activating, work.
I hear it turns to full-blown aids in 2-3 months instead of the normal 8 to 10-year thing.
They're looking for his partners...just thought I'd let you guys know..



P.S. so be careful next time you want to :luvbed:

Anyone else here this story?
Some crazy ****.. Some homo was having orgies with other guys while taking Crystal Meth and he contracted a new strand of the HIV virus.
The thing about this case is that it becomes Aids much much faster and none of the drugs what generally work on HIV patients, to slow down the process of the virus activating, work.
I hear it turns to full-blown aids in 2-3 months instead of the normal 8 to 10-year thing.
They're looking for his partners...just thought I'd let you guys know..



P.S. so be careful next time you want to :luvbed:

damn
so the meth made new super HIV
that ****s funny
id like to see those homos try to play off the whole **** didnt make HIV and AIDS now
but i guess they didnt make it
they just made it super duper

sucks to be them

damn
so the meth made new super HIV
that ****s funny
id like to see those homos try to play off the whole **** didnt make HIV and AIDS now
but i guess they didnt make it
they just made it super duper

Lol..that looks to be the case.

wow that is messed up, they better find his partners to quarentine it

Anyone else here this story?
Some crazy ****.. Some homo was having orgies with other guys while taking Crystal Meth and he contracted a new strand of the HIV virus.
The thing about this case is that it becomes Aids much much faster and none of the drugs what generally work on HIV patients, to slow down the process of the virus activating, work.
I hear it turns to full-blown aids in 2-3 months instead of the normal 8 to 10-year thing.
They're looking for his partners...just thought I'd let you guys know..



P.S. so be careful next time you want to :luvbed:



.....Yeah, stay off the meth and don't get ****ed in the ass and you should be good to go. Otherwise I guess one should be worried.

i read this super HIV seems to be a new urban legend.

and the old school HIV still can catch us all.

exept elveiel who's sexuality consists in wanking off using pokemon cards as inspiration.

i read this super HIV seems to be a new urban legend.

and the old school HIV still can catch us all.

exept elveiel who's sexuality consists in wanking off using pokemon cards as inspiration.

You suggested it to me, so what the **** are you on about!?! :p

I'm a little french girl :love:

I'm a little french girl :love:

Well I imagine tina's time here on the boards will be short, just like elveiel is gay and elviel...but no matter - now I've got another female name for the Snaps threads!

Well I imagine tina's time here on the boards will be short, just like elveiel is gay and elviel...but no matter - now I've got another female name for the Snaps threads!

Why would my time be short, i'm a sweetheart ;)

That's ****ed, your a druggie, you take it in the ass and you have super HIV. Where did the parents go wrong?...

when they gang banged you with their friends while they forced you to smoke crack ?

when they gang banged you with their friends while they forced you to smoke crack ?
lol. hey don't forget i joined in too ;) ......j/k

That's some crazy, and pretty disgusting ****
They better get that **** out of those guys
Before they go spread it to someone else
At least we don't have to worry about catching it
They aiin't going to be banging chicks since they gay
And as far as I know, nobody here is gay
So looks like the BoxingScene community is safe

We may never know...
what if one of the guys he was boning was a married man and brought it home to his cheating wife and the guy she was cheating on her gay husband with was a bad pimp and started banging his whores and they spread it around and then what if someone who was into bestiality banged their pet monkey and the virus mutilated in the monkey's system and it went airborne and then the monkey bit someone and then Dustin Hoffman and Cuba Gooding Jr. had to save the day?

I actually have the new super Hiv, I also have oldschool Hiv so I am qualified to compare the two. Really the new Hiv is not that much worse, yeah the pills don't work and I'm going to die soon but with the heavyweight division in the state that it is at.
What do I really have to live for?

so, this i can tell this isnt the thread to tell you all that i am a gay man.

so, this i can tell this isnt the thread to tell you all that i am a gay man.
You're gay?

so, this i can tell this isnt the thread to tell you all that i am a gay man.

1/30 so I wouldn't be surprised

I heard that on CNN the other day, but I wasn't sure if I understood it correctly. That some scary ****.

so, this i can tell this isnt the thread to tell you all that i am a gay man.

Hey Gay Bear, I'll tell you something I didn't get super hiv having sex with girls.

Hey Gay Bear, I'll tell you something I didn't get super hiv having sex with girls.

In a few days you can :D

I was making a joke at the expense of all the gay slurs on this thread.

I don't play on that team. But you don;t have to belive me.

I'm ashammed of myself for joking on such a serious issue..
You guys should be too..

I'm ashammed of myself for joking on such a serious issue..
You guys should be too..
nah
it aint that serious
its only druggie homos with HIV

wait until your sister or daughter gets it, then maybe you will care.

nah
it aint that serious
its only druggie homos with HIVSeriously. That's a statement right out of the 80's. If you have sex with anyone you stand a chance of getting it. Depending on your sexual habits your chances are greater or not.

Y'know some folks have caught it from blood transfusions.

Seriously. That's a statement right out of the 80's. If you have sex with anyone you stand a chance of getting it. Depending on your sexual habits your chances are greater or not.

Y'know some folks have caught it from blood transfusions.


Good job. A fine post. Global comes up with another great post. Global in the house!

Good job. A fine post. Global comes up with another great post. Global in the house!That one was a softball though.
















It did go pretty far though, heheheh.

wait until your sister or daughter gets it, then maybe you will care.
Sarcasm?
ever heard of it
i use it alot
dont take my words so serious
Seriously. That's a statement right out of the 80's. If you have sex with anyone you stand a chance of getting it. Depending on your sexual habits your chances are greater or not.

Y'know some folks have caught it from blood transfusions.
i was born in 86
so i dont think i got my thinkin from the 80s
im just a good ole fashion homo phobe
Good job. A fine post. Global comes up with another great post. Global in the house!
Good Work Team!!

:D

It did go pretty far though, heheheh.
only cuz Jose Cansaco has been giving us the hook up on the juice!

Sarcasm?
ever heard of it
i use it alot
dont take my words so serious

i was born in 86
so i dont think i got my thinkin from the 80s
im just a good ole fashion homo phobe

Good Work Team!!

:DI thought you might be a younger bro. I ain't baggin and it's good to hear you weren't serious. When I was younger I thought I was bullet proof but Life will sure let you know that "we're all born to die". That kinda thinkin often comes from inexperience or ****iness not from echoin someone's thoughts.

Now sarcasm; that, I'm familiar with!

Lookin forward to postin and readin your posts on this forum.

I thought you might be a younger bro. I ain't baggin and it's good to hear you weren't serious. When I was younger I thought I was bullet proof but Life will sure let you know that "we're all born to die". That kinda thinkin often comes from inexperience or ****iness not from echoin someone's thoughts.

Now sarcasm; that, I'm familiar with!

Lookin forward to postin and readin your posts on this forum.


Your a ****ing douchebag. Now am i being sarcastic?

I see there are some gay rights activists here. :puke:

:puke: I see there are some gay rights activists here.


I belive in human rights.

I belive in human rights.





I'm supposed to get all weepy and my eyes all watery because this guy is over here doing crystal meth and ****ing other dudes in the ass...in the process inventing another disease that can wipe out the human race...obviously the homo himself wasn't thinking about the human race. Why should he get my sympathy for acting like a piece of trash? :wt:

Your a ****ing douchebag. Now am i being sarcastic?Uh ... yeah?

No,no,no,no wait; the correct answer is, "I don't give a ****?"

I'm right, aren't I?




Aw ****, I don't ****in know ....

I'm supposed to get all weepy and my eyes all watery because this guy is over here doing crystal meth and ****ing other dudes in the ass...in the process inventing another disease that can wipe out the human race...obviously the homo himself wasn't thinking about the human race. Why should he get my sympathy for acting like a piece of trash? :wt:

Im not asking you to do any of that. This has nothing to do with gdrug using gay men who have AIDs.

This has to do with people using slurs like ***, hommo and so forth. To me calling someone a *** is just like using the words ******, *****, or sand-******. It shows utter untolorence and exstream ignorance.

No,no,no,no wait; the correct answer is, "I don't give a ****?"

I'm right, aren't I?




Aw ****, I don't ****in know ....
lol thats what I'm talking about.

lol thats what I'm talking about.This **** IS fun; I bet I got another 50,000 posts in me ... EASY!

I'm sick man; it's a ****in disease .....

I'm sick man; it's a ****in disease .....


Like the new strand of HIV?

Good job. A fine post. Global comes up with another great post. Global in the house!
Definitely getting sick of the Global dudes coming into OUR threads and OUR site and starting **** with long time posters that actually belong here, get off abdiels case

Did anyone see the picture of that man-****er who created it..
His face is all lumpy and ****.
I'm not sure if that was indeed him, but the guy who was standing behind the doctor who was explaining it sure looked like a homo with super-aids..

We may never know...
what if one of the guys he was boning was a married man and brought it home to his cheating wife and the guy she was cheating on her gay husband with was a bad pimp and started banging his whores and they spread it around and then what if someone who was into bestiality banged their pet monkey and the virus mutilated in the monkey's system and it went airborne and then the monkey bit someone and then Dustin Hoffman and Cuba Gooding Jr. had to save the day?


...Lucky for us men it doesn't spread so easily from woman to man as it does from man to woman. The fluids just don't work the same way. All the HIV propoganda lead us to believe that it easily spread from women to men years ago. What a crock of **** that was. It has always been and intravenious drug user and ******s disease in this country. Period and end of story.

...Lucky for us men it doesn't spread so easily from woman to man as it does from man to woman. The fluids just don't work the same way. All the HIV propoganda lead us to believe that it easily spread from women to men years ago. What a crock of **** that was. It has always been and intravenious drug user and ******s disease in this country. Period and end of story.

Are you serious? I thought there wouldn't have been any difference since the slightest amount of fluid transmission could infect. Do we have less chances of contracting the virus? Or less chance developping teh disease?

Are you serious? I thought there wouldn't have been any difference since the slightest amount of fluid transmission could infect. Do we have less chances of contracting the virus? Or less chance developping teh disease?


...It's a medical fact that a woman with aids or potentialy HIV is not nearly as likely to transmit the disease as a man is. You can occasionaly find the stats on it but the liberals in this country don't want the truth out there because it wouldn't suite their pro *** and pro loser agenda.

...It's a medical fact that a woman with aids or potentialy HIV is not nearly as likely to transmit the disease as a man is. You can occasionaly find the stats on it but the liberals in this country don't want the truth out there because it wouldn't suite their pro *** and pro loser agenda.

chances are higher when having anal sex , which you can have with women.

why waist our time looking looking for a group of people "guilty"

aids is killing more peole every month than the tsunami. african countries have lost a full generation , children have lost their whole family.

we just have to find a cure , as human beings.

a guy i knew caught aids with a girl , it s not a gay thing.

chances are higher when having anal sex , which you can have with women.

why waist our time looking looking for a group of people "guilty"

aids is killing more peole every month than the tsunami. african countries have lost a full generation , children have lost their whole family.

we just have to find a cure , as human beings.

a guy i knew caught aids with a girl , it s not a gay thing.

I cant believe i'm posting a serious reply to you tino :D

Its a massive problem in Africa, i think there x50 more people with AID/HIV in Africa than there is in rest of the world put together.

I just hope someone finds cure, its scary to think how easy it could be too catch. Pretty much everyone has got their nob wet without a rubber before.

For real. Aids is bad. Their is no reason to use it to slur the homosexuals. The more consequence free, unprotected sex we can have the better. For all of us.

Peace. Love. Unity.

Definitely getting sick of the Global dudes coming into OUR threads and OUR site and starting **** with long time posters that actually belong here, get off abdiels case
Perhaps you can cite an example instead of tryin to start crap yourself? Notice how no one echoed your accusation? That usually means YOU'RE DEAD WRONG!

Definitely getting sick of the Global dudes coming into OUR threads and OUR site and starting **** with long time posters that actually belong here, get off abdiels caseNovember 2004. Are you an example of a long time member?

November 2004. Are you an example of a long time member?

Atwa's been a good member since's he's joined, he's not a long term member but he's one of the reason the site keeps on getting better.

I dont understand the beef between MMA and BS, hopefuly soon we'll get to know who everyone is and the beef will go away. Hopefuly soon you MMA fans will download some boxing and be converted. :D

Everyone who thinks that Aids is a gay problem is deadly wrong. Right now there are childs born with the virus. In some parts of Africa over 40 percent of the population is infected.

Of course it's important to find a cure but it is even more important, at least in my opinion, to teach people about the virus. Lots of folks still don't know how you can get infected and how you can avoid it. People don't know how to use condoms or still think that safer sex isn't allowed in their religion. The pope and other spirtual leaders are very contra-productive in that case.

And there's a lot of speculation about the evolution of Aids. The gay-theory is only one of many. Till today there's no proof of any kind. And even if there'd be a proof our main goal should be to find a solution and not poiting our fingers on a group of people that already have a hard life.

Btw. I dont believe in this new strand of HIV. Over here in Germany there's been no news of that. Might as well be one more infented sensation.

Everyone who thinks that Aids is a gay problem is deadly wrong. Right now there are childs born with the virus. In some parts of Africa over 40 percent of the population is infected.

Of course it's important to find a cure but it is even more important, at least in my opinion, to teach people about the virus. Lots of folks still don't know how you can get infected and how you can avoid it. People don't know how to use condoms or still think that safer sex isn't allowed in their religion. The pope and other spirtual leaders are very contra-productive in that case.

And there's a lot of speculation about the evolution of Aids. The gay-theory is only one of many. Till today there's no proof of any kind. And even if there'd be a proof our main goal should be to find a solution and not poiting our fingers on a group of people that already have a hard life.

Btw. I dont believe in this new strand of HIV. Over here in Germany there's been no news of that. Might as well be one more infented sensation.


...Thats Africa Dude, I was refering to this country and the misconceptions about the disease. Africa is a given but it's a different ballgame completely. It has more to do with other health issues that lower the immune system and make them more vulnerable to contracting the disease. Add the fact that they are not as savvy in so far as birth control, safe sex, etc. etc. and you have a huge problem.

Everyone who thinks that Aids is a gay problem is deadly wrong. Right now there are childs born with the virus. In some parts of Africa over 40 percent of the population is infected.

Of course it's important to find a cure but it is even more important, at least in my opinion, to teach people about the virus. Lots of folks still don't know how you can get infected and how you can avoid it. People don't know how to use condoms or still think that safer sex isn't allowed in their religion. The pope and other spirtual leaders are very contra-productive in that case.

And there's a lot of speculation about the evolution of Aids. The gay-theory is only one of many. Till today there's no proof of any kind. And even if there'd be a proof our main goal should be to find a solution and not poiting our fingers on a group of people that already have a hard life.

Btw. I dont believe in this new strand of HIV. Over here in Germany there's been no news of that. Might as well be one more infented sensation.


...I don't think the monkey theory is a far fetched one at all and I would give more credence to that than anytthing else out there. The fact of the matter is that if men didn't stick their ****s in other mens asses we wouldn't have the problem and the financial drain that we have from this disease.

For real. Aids is bad. Their is no reason to use it to slur the homosexuals. The more consequence free, unprotected sex we can have the better. For all of us.

Peace. Love. Unity.


...Yeah your right, but the **** went and ****ed up everyones perception of safe sex. :) Safe sex used to be just ****ing your buddies girl before he got home and not getting your ass kicked.

From what I hear if your not balls deep in another guys ass, and dont shoot up with dirty needles, the chances of getting aides are pretty damn slim.

Atwa's been a good member since's he's joined, he's not a long term member but he's one of the reason the site keeps on getting better.

I dont understand the beef between MMA and BS, hopefuly soon we'll get to know who everyone is and the beef will go away. Hopefuly soon you MMA fans will download some boxing and be converted. :D

I understand... Its like having step-brothers or sisters :D Feuds are expected

From what I hear if your not balls deep in another guys ass, and dont shoot up with dirty needles, the chances of getting aides are pretty damn slim.


wrong . wrong . wrong . you can catch it banging a girl.
chances are high with girls , higher with men.

you ll catch it banging women . in europe there are more women infected than men.

wrong . wrong . wrong . you can catch it banging a girl.
chances are high with girls , higher with men.

you ll catch it banging women . in europe there are more women infected than men.


...some numbers for ya: These are penis to Vagina stats BTW.

AIDS ODDS

This is something we found in "Prevention Magazine."

These are the odds (according to them)
so address your lawsuit to prevention Magazine:

SEX SAFETY: THE TRUE RISKS OF GETTING AIDS

Risk of acquiring AIDS from one course of penis-vagina intercourse with someone: with condom
without condom

Of unknown AIDS status who isn't in a high risk group: 1 in 50 million
1 in 5 million

Of unknown AIDS status who is in a high risk group: 1 in 100,000 to
1 in 10,000*
1 in 10,000 to
1 in 1,000*

Of unknown AIDS status who has tested negative for AIDS but continues to engage in high-risk behavior (needle sharing or sexual intercourse with a member of a high risk group: 1 in 500,000
1 in 50,000

Of unknown AIDS status who has tested positive for AIDS: 1 in 5,000
1 in 500

Anyone else here this story?
Some crazy ****.. Some homo was having orgies with other guys while taking Crystal Meth and he contracted a new strand of the HIV virus.
The thing about this case is that it becomes Aids much much faster and none of the drugs what generally work on HIV patients, to slow down the process of the virus activating, work.
I hear it turns to full-blown aids in 2-3 months instead of the normal 8 to 10-year thing.
They're looking for his partners...just thought I'd let you guys know..



P.S. so be careful next time you want to :luvbed:
It's 'STRAIN' not strand!

Atwa's been a good member since's he's joined, he's not a long term member but he's one of the reason the site keeps on getting better.

I dont understand the beef between MMA and BS, hopefuly soon we'll get to know who everyone is and the beef will go away. Hopefuly soon you MMA fans will download some boxing and be converted. :DThere's no beef between the two sports as far as posters are concerned. There's only small people who feel threatened for some reason. It's fairly obvious what that reason is, if you just read their posts. He tried to post an inflammatory "it's us versus them" post which he pulled that idea out of his ass.

Dude, I bet I was a fan of boxing ... I've been a fan for quite awhile. The site is great, Rick is cool and I see nothing but good things in it's future. *bites lip so hard, tastes blood*

enough of this serious ****
lets go back to blamen them flamin homos
its much easier to read quick short zingers
den it is to read those long ass encyclopedia posts
ill start us back on da right track

god made adam and eve
noe adam and steve
god hates homos

wrong . wrong . wrong . you can catch it banging a girl.
chances are high with girls , higher with men.

you ll catch it banging women . in europe there are more women infected than men.

Thats good to hear tino :rolleyes:
****ing *******, your putting doubts in my mind!! I know i have a long term girl but we do like the occasional girl in our bed. :D

That **** makes me glad I'm married.

Maybe well get lucky and it will take out all the ****.

Apparently this news story didn't take off in 2003, but it's interesting reading...

HIV/AIDS Made In America? -
Graves Gets His Day In Court
By Ian Gurney
6-22-3


This week in California a lawyer is suing the U.S. government, claiming that the HIV-AIDS virus is a man made virus developed and manufactured in the United States with the knowledge of the U.S. government. On June 27th. prominent lawyer and AIDS researcher, Dr. Boyd E Graves JD* will finally present his case, number 02 CV 02396**, before Judge Jeffrey T. Miller in a San Diego court, claiming that the HIV virus, the virus that causes AIDS, is a virus that was manufactured in American laboratories between 1962 and 1978. On November 27th. last year the Office of the Secretary of the United States Department of Health and Human Services granted Dr. Graves sixty days to file suit in the United States federal court against the U.S. government. Graves claims he has hundreds of government documents proving HIV-AIDS was designed as biological terrorism against African-Americans. His action was initially brought in the U.S. Supreme Court, Case No. 00-9587.***

Researchers have long suspected that HIV arose as a result of a viral "cross-species jump" from primates to humans. The theory is that, through contact with chimpanzee blood, possibly through hunting them and eating the meat, humans were exposed to Simian Immunodeficiency Virus (SIV) which mutated into Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV). Not everyone agrees with this theory, and recently it has been challenged by Dr. Graves, who believes he has discovered the most terrifying inference about HIV-AIDS. Graves claims it is becoming increasingly clear that this virus was not, as scientists at first thought, passed from chimpanzees to mankind, but was probably knowingly developed by doctors and scientists working for the United States government. Graves says that in April 1984, Dr. Robert Gallo filed a United States patent application for his invention, the HIV-AIDS Virus. The Patent number for the invention is 4647773, details of which can be found at the US Patent Office website.****

According to Graves, the scientific evidence is compelling. He says:

"The HIV-AIDS Virus was manufactured as a designer bi-product of the US Special Virus programme. The Special Virus programme was a federal virus development programme that persisted in the United States from 1962 until 1978. Dr. Robert Gallo's 1971 Special Virus paper reveals that the United States was seeking a "virus particle" that would negatively impact the defence mechanisms of the immune system. The programme sought to modify the genome of the virus particle in which to splice in an animal wasting disease called Visna." Graves says Dr. Gallo's 1971 Special Virus paper is identical to his 1984 announcement of AIDS, and in 2001 Dr. Gallo conceded his role as "Project Officer" for the federal virus development programme, the Special Virus.

Graves claims the US Special Virus was added as a "compliment" by vaccine manufacturer Merck to experimental hepatitis B vaccines given to gay men in New York City, Los Angeles and San Fransisco; and smallpox vaccines given to blacks in central Africa, during the late 1970's and early 1980's. Shortly thereafter the world was overwhelmed with mass infections of a human retrovirus that differed from any known human disease, it was highly contagious and it could kill. Boyd Graves now believes that HIV-AIDS is probably an evolutionary, laboratory development of the peculiar Visna Virus, first detected in Icelandic sheep. Graves himself is a graduate of Annapolis US Naval Academy and law school who, in 1992 tested positive for HIV.

"Today I am hailed as "the Man Who Solved AIDS", he says. "What many people do not understand is that HIV contains particles of an Icelandic sheep disease, VISNA. Visna is from nazi Germany. It too is man made. The Supreme Court case was brought from a lower court which dismissed the origin of AIDS as a frivolous issue. I do not believe anyone in the world considers the origin of AIDS frivolous."

He claims to have one piece of evidence he's convinced will force the judge to rule in his favour saying: "If that happens the government will be forced to release all sorts of previously-classified research which proves the real origins of HIV-AIDS. The United States must account to the American people and the people of the world for the U.S. Special Virus Program."

In a new report, UNAIDS, the United Nation's joint program on HIV-AIDS, says that an estimated 45 million people worldwide are now living with HIV. UNAIDS executive director Peter Piot said: "Within the first 20 years, 58 million people have become infected and 23 million have been killed by HIV-AIDS." So, if Boyd E Graves is to be believed, and on June 27th. he can try to prove his case in the US federal court, it appears that HIV-AIDS may be a virus that has been manufactured and utilised by doctors and scientists with the knowledge and co-operation of the government of the United States of America. If this were to be proved true, two questions emerge. Firstly, for what reason was such a deadly virus invented? Secondly, according to all the laws governing the manufacture, development and deployment of biological and chemical weapons, was the invention and use of the HIV-AIDS virus by the United States the first act of mass bio-terrorism the world has witnessed?

More fun stuff for pbds and Elvis Hitler to call me a nutjob for...

http://www.rense.com/general13/inve.htm

The Invention Of AIDS
By Boyd E. Graves, J.D.
boyded2001@yahoo.com
8-28-1

Do people with HIV/AIDS owe royalties to the patent holder of the AIDS virus?

In April 1984, Dr. Robert Gallo filed a United States patent application for his invention, the HIV/AIDS Virus. Normally, when a patent is filed and approved, as Dr. Gallo's was, anyone who uses the product or invention owes a royalty payment to the inventor. Thus, holding the intellectual property laws to their fullest interpretations, one must only wonder why Dr. Gallo has yet to file a lawsuit seeking to recover damages from the usage of his invention? As odd as this scenario may sound, it bears need for additional scrutiny.

The scientific evidence is complete and compelling, the AIDS Virus is a designer bi-product of the U.S. Special Virus program. The Special Virus program was a federal virus development program that persisted in the United States from 1962 until 1978. The U.S. Special Virus was then added as 'compliment' to vaccine inoculations in Africa and Manhattan. Shortly thereafter the world was overwhelmed with mass infections of a human retrovirus that differed from any known human disease, it was highly contagious and more importantly, it could kill.

A review of the Special Virus Flow Chart ("research logic") reveals the United States was seeking a 'virus particle' that would negatively impact the defense mechanisms of the immune system. The program sought to modify the genome of the virus particle in which to splice in an animal "wasting disease" called "Visna".

According to the Proceedings of the United States of America, AIDS is an evolutionary, laboratory development of the peculiar Visna Virus, first detected in Icelandic sheep. Recently, American and world scientists confirm with 100% certainty the laboratory genesis of AIDS. This fact is further underscored when one reviews the 'multiply-spliced' nature of the HIV 'tat' gene and Dr. Gallo's 1971 Special Virus paper, "Reverse Transcriptase of Type-C virus Particles of Human Origin".

Dr. Gallo's 1971 Special Virus paper is identical to his 1984 announcement of AIDS. Upon further review the record reveals that he filed his patent on AIDS, before he made the announcement with Secretary Heckler. Earlier this year, Dr. Gallo conceded his role as a 'Project Officer' for the federal virus development program, the Special Virus.

The Flow Chart of the program and the 15 progress reports are irrefutable evidence of the United States' secret plan to cull world populations via the unleashing of a stealth biological microorganism that would 'waste' humanity. In light of this true genesis of the world's most divesting biological scourge, it is the United States that owes 'royal' payments to the innocent victims. Each and every victim of AIDS is deserving of a formal apology and a sense of economic closure for an invention of death and despair, perpetrated by the United States.

The eyes of the world are upon the General Accounting Office's Health Care Team, under the direction of William J. Scanlon. Between 1964 and 1978, the secret federal virus program spent $550 million dollars of taxpayer money to invent AIDS. It is now necessary to spend whatever it takes to dismantle an invention that has led to the greatest crime against humanity in the history of the world.

okay just one more

http://www.rense.com/general61/outof.htm

Debunking The Out Of Africa
Origin Of HIV & AIDS
The Greatest Conspiracy
Story Ever Told
By Alan Cantwell © 2005
Alan Cantwell, M.D.
1-1-5

AIDS is now more than a quarter-century old. The disease has killed 20 million people worldwide, and it is estimated that 40 million more are infected with HIV (human immunodeficiency virus), the virus that causes AIDS.

Ask your physician where AIDS came from and he or she will probably tell you the epidemic started when monkeys or chimps in the African bush transferred the AIDS virus (HIV) to a person while butchering primate meat for food or through an animal bite. For the first two decades of the epidemic the green monkey theory of AIDS was widely heralded in the major media, and was accepted without question by leading AIDS experts and educators. The theory was so universally popular (except in Africa) that it easily became fact in the minds of most people.

...(more on the actual page)

cont'd

The Origin of AIDS Conference, London, 2000

In October 2000 the Royal Society of London held a two-day conference on the origins of HIV. Needless to say, the man-made theory was not discussed. One professor emphatically declared: "All human infectious diseases have an animal origin." Hooper's polio theory was totally discredited; and Hahn's new chimp theory, dating HIV back to the 1930s, was acclaimed.

The "Last Word" at the conference was that "all human viral infections were initially zoonotic (animal) in origin. Animals will always provide a reservoir for viruses that could threaten human populations in the future." The scientists predicted: "There is still a myriad of current unknown viruses in animal populations on land, sea, and air with the potential to cause human disease." But what about the millions of dangerous virus created in animal laboratories? That was never considered.

A person cannot contract AIDS from a monkey or chimp

In the July 2000 issue of Lancet, virologist and primatologist Preston Marx states: "There is no evidence that a person can contract AIDS from a monkey or chimpanzee". According to Marx, research shows humans were infected with SIV (simian immunodeficiency virus) in Africa and that these SIV infections were the root origin of HIV. Therefore SIV is the monkey ancestor virus of HIV. And Marx has no doubt that HIV originated from SIV in African non-human primates.

AIDS educators often claim that AIDS is a "zoonosis", meaning a disease of animals that can be transmitted to humans, but Marx says this assumption is incorrect. AIDS as a zoonosis would mean that humans had contracted not only an SIV infection from a monkey or a chimp, but that they also eventually became sick with AIDS from the monkey virus infection. We have not established that AIDS is a zoonosis (meaning a disease people catch from monkeys). He further declares "We do not know what launches animal viruses to become epidemic in humans. There may be a social, viral-genetic or immunologic basis for new epidemics. We do not have this answer for the AIDS epidemic, but we do know that HIV originated from simian species."



Human exposure to SIV is thousands of years old, but AIDS merged only in the 20th century. Marx never suggests that contaminated vaccines, rather than needles, could have initiated the African epidemic. However, if AIDS does not qualify as a zoonosis, I interpret this to mean that Hahn's "cut hunter theory" could not account for the explosion of HIV/AIDS in Africa in the 1980s. Finally, Marx's team suggests that more "research is needed to understand the processes by which animal viruses cause sustained human-to-human transmission, epidemics and even pandemics. Much is known about emerging viruses, but almost nothing is known about emerging viral diseases."


WHO Murdered Africa?

Apparently forgotten, ignored, or unknown by Marx was a similar vaccine and needle scenario reported on May 11, 1987, on the front-page of The London Times, entitled "Smallpox vaccine triggered AIDS virus." Science editor Pierce Wright suggested that African AIDS was a direct result of the World Health Organization's smallpox eradication program conducted in the 1970s. The smallpox vaccine allegedly awakened a "dormant" AIDS virus infection in the black population. Gallo was quoted as saying, "The link between the WHO program and the epidemic is an interesting and important hypothesis. I cannot say that it actually happened, but I have been saying for some years that the use of live vaccines such as that used for smallpox can activate a dormant infection such as HIV (the AIDS virus)."

The Times report is one of the most important stories ever printed on the AIDS epidemic; yet the story was killed and never appeared in any major U.S. newspaper or magazine. However, the report is widely circulated on the internet as evidence to suggest that AIDS appeared in Africa via accidental or deliberate vaccine contamination with the AIDS virus. (Google: WHO murdered Africa).

Kenyan ecologist and biologist Wangari Maathai was obviously aware of this vaccine connection when she won the Nobel Peace Prize in October 2004, and shocked reporters by claiming the AIDS virus was a deliberately created biological agent developed by evil-minded scientists and released in Africa to cause mass extermination of blacks.

In Magic Shots [1982], Allan Chase claims that during the years 1966-1977, the WHO utilized "200,000 people in forty countries -- most of them non-doctors trained by seven hundred doctors and health professionals from over seventy participating countries -- spent $300 million, and used forty million bifurcated vaccinating needles to administer 24,000 million (2.4 billion) doses of smallpox vaccine." This is also proof of extensive needle re-use.

There is absolutely no evidence to show that large numbers of African blacks were "incubating" HIV, or any other primate/simian virus before the outbreak. This is why the out of Africa idea is theory and not fact.

Despite this lack of evidence, the monkey/chimp and primate/simian origin of HIV/AIDS is a well-accepted scientific theory. In contrast, the man-made "introduction" of HIV in the late 1970s is condemned as "conspiracy theory". Although taboo, the man-made theory refuses to go away, and is alive and well on the internet. A google search, using the key words "man made origin of AIDS," will elicit 1,220,000 citations to various web sites.


HIV: Out of Africa? Or out of a virus laboratory?

Precise answers to how AIDS originated depends on which "expert" you ask. Montagnier points to the United States and gay men as the source of the virus. Could the virus have been transmitted from chimpanzees to humans? Montagnier says yes. But, he adds, humans could have transmitted the virus to the chimpanzees! How could humans have transmitted the virus to chimps? Unfortunately, the Frenchman did not elaborate on this.

Could HIV be a primate/simian virus originating in a virus laboratory ? Such questions are never seriously proposed or answered by virologists. However, well-known to insiders are the embarrassing contamination problems with primate viruses which have plagued Gallo's lab at the NCI and Essex's lab at Harvard.

A case in point is Gallo's reported 1975 "discovery" of a "new" and "human" virus reported in scientific journals as "HL-23." This virus was eventually proven to be not one, but three different ape viruses (gibbon-ape virus, simian sarcoma virus and baboon endogenous virus). Gallo claims he has no idea how these viruses contaminated his research.

Essex, who along with Gallo heavily promoted the erroneous green monkey theory, had similar woes. In 1986 he announced the discovery of a "new" human AIDS virus (HTLV-4). This "human" virus bore a striking similarity to a monkey retrovirus known as STLV-3. In February 1988, the mystery was solved. Essex's new "human" HTLV-4 virus turned out to be a monkey virus that accidentally contaminated Essex's human blood samples. The source of the monkey contamination was traced back to blood samples from a monkey that was experimentally infected by an AIDS-like virus at the New England Regional Primate Research Center in Southborough, Massachusetts. Carol Mulder of the University of Massachusetts Medical School cautioned: "This episode should serve as a strong warning for all virologists to check any newly discovered viruses against viruses present in the laboratory."

In the decade before AIDS broke out in gay men, Essex created "cat AIDS" in a series of experiments. In 1974, chimpanzee AIDS was also created deliberately by feeding heavily virus-contaminated cows' milk to newborn chimps. For the very first time, veterinarians were able to produce leukemia in chimps, as well as a lung infection, later known as the "gay pneumonia" of AIDS. As Montagnier should be aware, human cancerous tissue and blood was routinely injected into primates as part of the Special Virus Cancer Program. Mysterious AIDS-like illnesses also occurred in primate laboratories a few years before AIDS. And chimp viruses also jumped species back in the 1960s when chimp kidneys were experimentally transplanted into humans.

We are informed that the AIDS epidemic is the result of a primate virus jumping species for the first time. However, polio vaccines given to millions of people in the 50s and 60s were heavily contaminated with a cancer-causing monkey virus called SV-40 (simian virus 40). Over the decades various studies indicate this virus is implicated in several forms of human cancer, although government scientists continue to deny any association. For a complete analysis of this polio vaccine contamination, read (or google) The Virus and the Vaccine [2004].

The man-made theory of AIDS proclaims that HIV was introduced into American gays and African blacks via vaccine programs. Why is this theory deemed paranoia by the media and the AIDS establishment? Why is discussionnot allowed? Why have scientists suppressed the extensive history of animal cancer virus transfer in the decade before AIDS?

Is there a scientific conspiracy to get scientists off the hook by blaming monkeys in the bush, and gays and Africans, for the millions of death brought about by the "introduction" of HIV into the world population? Of course there is. That's why it's The Greatest Conspiracy Story Ever Told.

There's no beef between the two sports as far as posters are concerned. There's only small people who feel threatened for some reason. It's fairly obvious what that reason is, if you just read their posts. He tried to post an inflammatory "it's us versus them" post which he pulled that idea out of his ass.

Dude, I bet I was a fan of boxing ... I've been a fan for quite awhile. The site is great, Rick is cool and I see nothing but good things in it's future. *bites lip so hard, tastes blood*




There's no beef at all. When you're new here a few of the troublemaking *****es on this site will try to mess with you...I dealt with 5 of them when I first joined...what they do is, if you get into a confrontation with one of them...a few of their ass kissing imaginary "friends"(online friends? LMAO!) will have their feelings hurt like a bunch of ******* and try to start with you too, even if it was their ***** friend who started the fight. They act like they are married to each other like a bunch of little ******s.
Anyway don't let any of these *****es try to run you off this site. You have every right to be here just like anyone who started on Boxing Scene...this isn't "our" site. This is Rick Reeno's site and he wanted the MMA people here. Anyway if some little "beef" does come up...since I Box, Wrestle and know Ju Jitsu...I'm technically an MMA guy. :boxing:

Jack was banned for what reason now?

I don't mind homosexuals. I don't approve of what they do...but as long as they don't make passes at me then I have no problemos.

Aids is a scary thang mang...

Why you gotta call out the mma dudes atwa? Theres no reason for hillshire farms here. I have read some stuff that bushido has written and happen to think he's a good poster so ill with the BS/Global separation...we are one now sucka. :dance:

Jack was banned for what reason now?

I don't mind homosexuals. I don't approve of what they do...but as long as they don't make passes at me then I have no problemos.

Aids is a scary thang mang...

Why you gotta call out the mma dudes atwa? Theres no reason for hillshire farms here. I have read some stuff that bushido has written and happen to think he's a good poster so ill with the BS/Global separation...we are one now sucka. :dance:


...Jack wasn't banned he changed his own title. :)

I have no sympathy for **** stabbers

Yeah, it really needs to be cured, it's getting to the point now when anyone could get it, it's ridicolous. That and Cancer, I have had more family friends infected/died of cancer in the last 2 years then ever. A close friend of mine was just diagnosed with Lung Cancer and it spread to her kidneys too, very very sad and tragic. Maybe these doctors should stop worrying about how to get an old man an erection and worry about the people dying in the country everyday

Apparently this news story didn't take off in 2003, but it's interesting reading...

HIV/AIDS Made In America? -
Graves Gets His Day In Court
By Ian Gurney
6-22-3


This week in California a lawyer is suing the U.S. government, claiming that the HIV-AIDS virus is a man made virus developed and manufactured in the United States with the knowledge of the U.S. government. On June 27th. prominent lawyer and AIDS researcher, Dr. Boyd E Graves JD* will finally present his case, number 02 CV 02396**, before Judge Jeffrey T. Miller in a San Diego court, claiming that the HIV virus, the virus that causes AIDS, is a virus that was manufactured in American laboratories between 1962 and 1978. On November 27th. last year the Office of the Secretary of the United States Department of Health and Human Services granted Dr. Graves sixty days to file suit in the United States federal court against the U.S. government. Graves claims he has hundreds of government documents proving HIV-AIDS was designed as biological terrorism against African-Americans. His action was initially brought in the U.S. Supreme Court, Case No. 00-9587.***

Researchers have long suspected that HIV arose as a result of a viral "cross-species jump" from primates to humans. The theory is that, through contact with chimpanzee blood, possibly through hunting them and eating the meat, humans were exposed to Simian Immunodeficiency Virus (SIV) which mutated into Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV). Not everyone agrees with this theory, and recently it has been challenged by Dr. Graves, who believes he has discovered the most terrifying inference about HIV-AIDS. Graves claims it is becoming increasingly clear that this virus was not, as scientists at first thought, passed from chimpanzees to mankind, but was probably knowingly developed by doctors and scientists working for the United States government. Graves says that in April 1984, Dr. Robert Gallo filed a United States patent application for his invention, the HIV-AIDS Virus. The Patent number for the invention is 4647773, details of which can be found at the US Patent Office website.****

According to Graves, the scientific evidence is compelling. He says:

"The HIV-AIDS Virus was manufactured as a designer bi-product of the US Special Virus programme. The Special Virus programme was a federal virus development programme that persisted in the United States from 1962 until 1978. Dr. Robert Gallo's 1971 Special Virus paper reveals that the United States was seeking a "virus particle" that would negatively impact the defence mechanisms of the immune system. The programme sought to modify the genome of the virus particle in which to splice in an animal wasting disease called Visna." Graves says Dr. Gallo's 1971 Special Virus paper is identical to his 1984 announcement of AIDS, and in 2001 Dr. Gallo conceded his role as "Project Officer" for the federal virus development programme, the Special Virus.

Graves claims the US Special Virus was added as a "compliment" by vaccine manufacturer Merck to experimental hepatitis B vaccines given to gay men in New York City, Los Angeles and San Fransisco; and smallpox vaccines given to blacks in central Africa, during the late 1970's and early 1980's. Shortly thereafter the world was overwhelmed with mass infections of a human retrovirus that differed from any known human disease, it was highly contagious and it could kill. Boyd Graves now believes that HIV-AIDS is probably an evolutionary, laboratory development of the peculiar Visna Virus, first detected in Icelandic sheep. Graves himself is a graduate of Annapolis US Naval Academy and law school who, in 1992 tested positive for HIV.

"Today I am hailed as "the Man Who Solved AIDS", he says. "What many people do not understand is that HIV contains particles of an Icelandic sheep disease, VISNA. Visna is from nazi Germany. It too is man made. The Supreme Court case was brought from a lower court which dismissed the origin of AIDS as a frivolous issue. I do not believe anyone in the world considers the origin of AIDS frivolous."

He claims to have one piece of evidence he's convinced will force the judge to rule in his favour saying: "If that happens the government will be forced to release all sorts of previously-classified research which proves the real origins of HIV-AIDS. The United States must account to the American people and the people of the world for the U.S. Special Virus Program."

In a new report, UNAIDS, the United Nation's joint program on HIV-AIDS, says that an estimated 45 million people worldwide are now living with HIV. UNAIDS executive director Peter Piot said: "Within the first 20 years, 58 million people have become infected and 23 million have been killed by HIV-AIDS." So, if Boyd E Graves is to be believed, and on June 27th. he can try to prove his case in the US federal court, it appears that HIV-AIDS may be a virus that has been manufactured and utilised by doctors and scientists with the knowledge and co-operation of the government of the United States of America. If this were to be proved true, two questions emerge. Firstly, for what reason was such a deadly virus invented? Secondly, according to all the laws governing the manufacture, development and deployment of biological and chemical weapons, was the invention and use of the HIV-AIDS virus by the United States the first act of mass bio-terrorism the world has witnessed?


you know i would comment on this one more but all i have to say is......"just what we need...another gov't consiracy theory" :rolleyes:

Yeah whats this beef talk... im all about pork.

...some numbers for ya: These are penis to Vagina stats BTW.

AIDS ODDS

This is something we found in "Prevention Magazine."

These are the odds (according to them)
so address your lawsuit to prevention Magazine:

SEX SAFETY: THE TRUE RISKS OF GETTING AIDS

Risk of acquiring AIDS from one course of penis-vagina intercourse with someone: with condom
without condom

Of unknown AIDS status who isn't in a high risk group: 1 in 50 million
1 in 5 million

Of unknown AIDS status who is in a high risk group: 1 in 100,000 to
1 in 10,000*
1 in 10,000 to
1 in 1,000*

Of unknown AIDS status who has tested negative for AIDS but continues to engage in high-risk behavior (needle sharing or sexual intercourse with a member of a high risk group: 1 in 500,000
1 in 50,000

Of unknown AIDS status who has tested positive for AIDS: 1 in 5,000
1 in 500
Ahh thanks for the numbers my man. Thats the point I was trying to make. ;)

Everyone who thinks that Aids is a gay problem is deadly wrong. Right now there are childs born with the virus. In some parts of Africa over 40 percent of the population is infected.

Of course it's important to find a cure but it is even more important, at least in my opinion, to teach people about the virus. Lots of folks still don't know how you can get infected and how you can avoid it. People don't know how to use condoms or still think that safer sex isn't allowed in their religion. The pope and other spirtual leaders are very contra-productive in that case.

And there's a lot of speculation about the evolution of Aids. The gay-theory is only one of many. Till today there's no proof of any kind. And even if there'd be a proof our main goal should be to find a solution and not poiting our fingers on a group of people that already have a hard life.

Btw. I dont believe in this new strand of HIV. Over here in Germany there's been no news of that. Might as well be one more infented sensation.


I just now got around to reading this entire thread. Some of the things you and elveiel have said on this subject, especially concerning the epidemic in Africa are dead on. My heart breaks for those poor kids and i would love to see a cure.

That being said, I have to say that I would rather see the rights of 100 HIV carriers infringed upon than see 1 innocent person contract the disease due to the negligence or disregard of somebody with the disease.

When I was in college in Florida I remember reading a case in which a dentist with the disease gave it to one of his patients. An innocent female child. No, he didn't molest her if that's what you are thinking. Apearantly he had a cut on his hand or something and some of his blod found it's way into her open mouth while she was having oral surgery. That is ****ing bull****. I think that AIDS victims in this country should be identified so that healthy people would know who to avoid. they are the ****ing lepers of the 21st century and should be treated as such. Would they face discrimination if they were "outed"? Probably, but better that than some innocent individual contracts the disease because a doctor's sore starts oozing during sugery. Or some bitter infected individual decides that he/she is going to continue having unsafe sex regardless of the consequences to their partners.

I just now got around to reading this entire thread. Some of the things you and elveiel have said on this subject, especially concerning the epidemic in Africa are dead on. My heart breaks for those poor kids and i would love to see a cure.

That being said, I have to say that I would rather see the rights of 100 HIV carriers infringed upon than see 1 innocent person contract the disease due to the negligence or disregard of somebody with the disease.

When I was in college in Florida I remember reading a case in which a dentist with the disease gave it to one of his patients. An innocent female child. No, he didn't molest her if that's what you are thinking. Apearantly he had a cut on his hand or something and some of his blod found it's way into her open mouth while she was having oral surgery. That is ****ing bull****. I think that AIDS victims in this country should be identified so that healthy people would know who to avoid. they are the ****ing lepers of the 21st century and should be treated as such. Would they face discrimination if they were "outed"? Probably, but better that than some innocent individual contracts the disease because a doctor's sore starts oozing during sugery. Or some bitter infected individual decides that he/she is going to continue having unsafe sex regardless of the consequences to their partners.

I feel really sorry for a lot of AIDS victims but i kinda agree with you, if we cant find a cure for the problem the only way of dealing with it is to outcast the victims. I hate too say that but there's no other way.

I read recently that african tribes had been telling AIDs/HIV victims the only way to cure it was to rape a virgin. Thats ****ing sick and will only make the problem worst, its another thing that makes me feel the way i do.

yea i wish i could do something about those lil kids in africa that are exposed to AIDS. its a shame there is no cure for it though. it F*cking sux

The whole myth about having sex with a virgin to cure it sucks..

Sundance Channel this month - all times EST

THE ORIGINS OF AIDS
directed by Peter Chappell and Cathérine Peix
91 MINS, Color

Startling in its thesis, compelling in its argument and chilling in its measured presentation, this award-winning documentary by Peter Chappell and Catherine Peix delves into the possible origins of AIDS in the jungles of Zaire (formerly the Belgian Congo). Investigating a theory detailed in journalist Edward Hooper's controversial book The River, THE ORIGINS OF AIDS looks into the possibility that the deadliest disease known to mankind came as a result of a risky, mass inoculation of an experimental polio vaccine during the late 1950s. TVPG This documentary explores a controversial theory. Sundance Channel presents this documentary as a theory, not as a factual account




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Anyone else here this story?
Some crazy ****.. Some homo was having orgies with other guys while taking Crystal Meth and he contracted a new strand of the HIV virus.
The thing about this case is that it becomes Aids much much faster and none of the drugs what generally work on HIV patients, to slow down the process of the virus activating, work.
I hear it turns to full-blown aids in 2-3 months instead of the normal 8 to 10-year thing.
They're looking for his partners...just thought I'd let you guys know..



P.S. so be careful next time you want to :luvbed:
****!!! Someone better go break the news to Buttfly, I feel bad but I'm not doing it. NOT IT!

Anyone else here this story?
Some crazy ****.. Some homo was having orgies with other guys while taking Crystal Meth and he contracted a new strand of the HIV virus.
The thing about this case is that it becomes Aids much much faster and none of the drugs what generally work on HIV patients, to slow down the process of the virus activating, work.
I hear it turns to full-blown aids in 2-3 months instead of the normal 8 to 10-year thing.
They're looking for his partners...just thought I'd let you guys know..



P.S. so be careful next time you want to :luvbed:

Probably started by the Pinoy boys :luvbed:

Probably started by the Pinoy boys :luvbed:
ahhhh hahahahaha Karma to you ahahhahaha

Probably started by the Pinoy boys :luvbed:

LMFAO!!!! another classic.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/5221744.stm

Last Updated: Saturday, 29 July 2006, 23:12 GMT 00:12 UK

HIV hides in gut to escape attack

HIV attacks immune system T-cells
HIV is able to survive drug attack by hiding out in the gut lining, US scientists have discovered.
Even when blood tests suggested antiretroviral treatment was working, the virus continued to replicate in the gut, suppressing immune function.

Writing in the Journal of Virology, the authors recommend earlier, aggressive drug treatment to combat this.

The University of California team also suggest monitoring patients with gut biopsies as well as blood tests.

Theirs is the first study to show that, while current HIV therapy is quite successful in reducing viral loads and increasing the number of immune T-cells to fight the infection in peripheral blood, it is not so effective in gut mucosa.

The gut is acting as a viral reservoir that keeps us from ridding patients of the virus

Lead researcher Dr Satya Dandekar

Dr Satya Dandekar and her team followed 10 patients being treated with highly active antiretroviral therapy, known as HAART.

They took blood and gut samples from the patients before and after three years of treatment. Three of the patients had been treated very early, within four to six weeks of first being infected with the virus, whereas the others had been infected for at least a year before receiving treatment.

The patients who had been treated earlier had fewer signs of gut inflammation before treatment and experienced greater recovery of the gut mucosal immune system function after treatment than the other patients.

Viral reservoir

Dr Dandekar explained: "We found a substantial delay in the time that it takes to restore the gut mucosal immune system in those with chronic infections.

"In these patients the gut is acting as a viral reservoir that keeps us from ridding patients of the virus."

She said the results suggested anti-inflammatory drugs might improve antiretroviral treatment outcomes and that genes involved with the repair and regeneration of the gut mucosal immune system would make excellent drug targets.

A spokeswoman from the HIV charity AVERT said: "This research offers an enlightening insight into one of the ways that HIV evades drugs in the body, and if further studies show that anti-inflammatory drugs improve the efficacy of antiretrovirals, they could prove a very useful addition to HIV therapy.

"However, the researchers' suggestion of starting HIV treatment earlier will need to be weighed up against the risk of earlier drug resistance forming, and the difficulties of drug toxicity and side effects before it is considered for adoption as standard medical practice."

Mary Lima, a treatment specialist at the Terrence Higgins Trust, agreed. She said: "At this stage we have to be cautious as starting treatment earlier, taking anti-inflammatory drugs and having gut biopsies would put an additional burden on people living with HIV.

"However, it's really important that research into this area continues so we can understand more about HIV and how it could be treated in future."

We may never know...
what if one of the guys he was boning was a married man and brought it home to his cheating wife and the guy she was cheating on her gay husband with was a bad pimp and started banging his whores and they spread it around and then what if someone who was into bestiality banged their pet monkey and the virus mutilated in the monkey's system and it went airborne and then the monkey bit someone and then Dustin Hoffman and Cuba Gooding Jr. had to save the day?

Sweet leapin' Jesus, that's some impressive wordplay right there.

Anyone else here this story?
Some crazy ****.. Some homo was having orgies with other guys while taking Crystal Meth and he contracted a new strand of the HIV virus.
The thing about this case is that it becomes Aids much much faster and none of the drugs what generally work on HIV patients, to slow down the process of the virus activating, work.
I hear it turns to full-blown aids in 2-3 months instead of the normal 8 to 10-year thing.
They're looking for his partners...just thought I'd let you guys know..



P.S. so be careful next time you want to :luvbed:
Thats most likely cause they were doing crystal, that stuff really makes u mutate.

Anybody ready for a *** drag?

Way to endanger the rest of the world, queer.

I feel really sorry for a lot of AIDS victims but i kinda agree with you, if we cant find a cure for the problem the only way of dealing with it is to outcast the victims. I hate too say that but there's no other way.

I read recently that african tribes had been telling AIDs/HIV victims the only way to cure it was to rape a virgin. Thats ****ing sick and will only make the problem worst, its another thing that makes me feel the way i do.
thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard you should not outcast the victims what the hell is wrong with you?

damn
so the meth made new super HIV
that ****s funny
id like to see those homos try to play off the whole ***s didnt make HIV and AIDS now
but i guess they didnt make it
they just made it super duper

They didn't make it, they spread it around. I'm fairly certain that it came from some monkeys, or chimps, something along those lines in Africa, just like all the world's horrible diseases do nowadays.

Despite this being older than all hell (the OP that is), here's an interesting article about HIV: http://www.cbc.ca/story/science/national/2006/08/04/montaner.html

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Bayer Company put aids virus in its medicine.
ALSO FDA Approved


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HIV been caused by mass vaccination against Polio, in Congo, between 1957 and 1960.

We may never know...
what if one of the guys he was boning was a married man and brought it home to his cheating wife and the guy she was cheating on her gay husband with was a bad pimp and started banging his whores and they spread it around and then what if someone who was into bestiality banged their pet monkey and the virus mutilated in the monkey's system and it went airborne and then the monkey bit someone and then Dustin Hoffman and Cuba Gooding Jr. had to save the day?



this is some of the funniest **** i have ever read.... what would we do without jack

http://www.rense.com/general73/homphn.htm

Homophobic Homosexuals:
Making AIDS 'A Gay Disease'
New AIDS Disinformation Program Spread By
The Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Center
By Alan Cantwell, MD
c. 2006 All Rights Reserved
9-29-6


In an unbelievable and unfathomable turn of events, the Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Center has undertaken a new campaign to convince Gay/Lesbian/Bisexuals/Transgendered people that "HIV is a gay disease".

As a physician who has written extensively over the past two decades about the origin of HIV/AIDS, I am shocked and saddened by this misguided campaign to make gay men "own" and "end AIDS." The Center's gay media blitz is being conducted ostensibly to stop the excessive rate of new HIV infection in gay men in West Hollywood.

The slogan: "HIV is a gay disease" is certainly not scientifically correct for the simple reason that HIV is a virus, not a disease.
HIV, however, is the accepted cause of AIDS.

Is AIDS a gay disease? Of course not! In fairness the Center's campaign ad explains (in small print) that "OK, diseases don't have sexual orientations." Yet the full page ad I saw in the gay-oriented In magazine proclaims that "HIV has been, and continues to be, our disease." The full details of the new AIDS prevention campaign can be found on www.OwnItEndIt.org. People are encouraged to post their views on the site.

When the AIDS epidemic began officially in June 1981, it was widely considered exclusively a "gay disease." Now everyone should know that AIDS is a worldwide epidemic; and most AIDS cases are heterosexual, not homosexual.

During the early years of the epidemic when the cause was unknown and when HIV was in the blood supply, hemophiliacs were decimated by AIDS. Hemophilia does not cause AIDS - and neither does homosexuality. AIDS is caused by a virus, not by a genetic defect or by a lifestyle.

For two decades AIDS scientists and educators have tried to convince people (particularly homophobes) that AIDS is not a gay disease. Now the Center is turning back the clock 25 years to the time when most people were convinced that gay sex, sodomy, drugs and poppers were "the cause" of AIDS.

For two decades I and a few other serious researchers have presented evidence to show that HIV/AIDS is a man-made disease. Anyone interested in this evidence can Google "man-made AIDS" for dozens of articles, as well as books, on the subject. This research has been largely dismissed by the scientific community, the media, and the gay community, as "conspiracy theory" and/or "paranoia."

There are two important reasons why HIV/AIDS is still prevalent among gay men (but not lesbians).

First, HIV and the Kaposi' sarcoma virus were initially "introduced" into gay men via the experimental hepatitis B vaccine programs that took place first in Manhattan in 1978, and continued in other cities until 1981- the same year the "gay plague" became official. For details on the connection between government-sponsored gay vaccine experiments and the beginning of the AIDS epidemic, Google: AIDS + gay experiment.

Second, the "strain" of HIV in the U.S. is different from the strains of HIV found in Africa, where the disease is epidemic among heterosexual black (but not white) Africans. Again, there is evidence tying the African outbreak to vaccine programs sponsored by the World Health Organization. (Google: WHO murdered Africa). It is important to note that the AIDS epidemic first broke out in Manhattan in 1979, not in Africa, where the epidemic did not begin until the autumn of 1982 (see Luc Montagnier's book, VIRUS, page 122). The American strain of HIV has an affinity for anal tissue, whereas the African strains are more easily transmitted via vaginal sex. According to virologist Max Essex, who co-discovered HIV with Gallo, certain subtypes of HIV are associated with specific modes of transmission. Essex claims that the common subtype B in America is spread mostly by homosexual contact and intravenous drug use, while the HIV subtypes in Africa "tend to fuel heterosexual epidemics (via a mucosal route)." (http://www.avert.org/hivtypes.htm)

Because HIV and the KS virus were initially "introduced" exclusively into the gay male population, the disease has been spread largely by gay and bisexual males. Theoretically, if a new virus was deliberately seeded into the male heterosexual community, it would most likely spread amongst heterosexuals, not homosexuals.

The only way for a gay man (or any sexual person) to be sure his sex partner is not infected is to assume that all his partners are HIV-positive and to insist on condom use. Is it realistic to expect all gay men to refrain from condom-less sex for a lifetime? There is no evidence to show that this is possible for any sexually-active group of people.

It is obvious that "AIDS education" has not prevented many men from becoming infected. Perhaps we should finally admit that no method of education will deter some people. But why do we now have to "educate" gay men with untruths in order for them to change their sexual habits? Surely such an untruth will be used to full advantage by homophobes against gay people.

The idea that AIDS is a man-made disease has always been a taboo subject. When HIV was mysteriously and exclusively "introduced" into the U.S. gay population in the late 1970s, it was at a time when AIDS was unknown in Africa. So how was it possible for a non-existent black heterosexual disease in Africa to have transformed itself into a white gay man's epidemic in Manhattan with the first confirmed cases appearing in 1979? In essence, there is no evidence that American AIDS came from Africa via a sexually-transmitted new virus.

My admittedly controversial view is based on 25 years of personal research. I am convinced AIDS is a man-made disease produced when a lethal virus that was deliberately introduced into gay men for the purpose of killing them. The idea that AIDS is man-made has never been disproven.

Instead of educating gay men that AIDS came from Africa and green monkeys, perhaps we should give some serious thought to teaching men that they are part of a genocide program deliberately aimed against them.

This might frighten and make some men angry and paranoid. But it is also possible that it might make some HIV-negative men less likely to want to be a part of this genocide program - or to make HIV-positive men more unwilling to infect others.

Personally, my belief that AIDS is man-made has made me determined not to become part of this genocide. I don't pay attention to educators who believe that AIDS comes from green monkeys. And I protest the Center's new campaign promoting "HIV as a gay disease." That falsehood will merely serve as continuing fodder for many Americans who still blame male homosexuals and their lifestyle for starting the "gay plague."

If making AIDS a gay disease is part of "AIDS education", I want no part of it.

Alan Cantwell M.D.
alancantwell@sbglobal.net

(Alan Cantwell MD is a retired dermatologist who has written extensively on AIDS as a man-made disease. His scientific papers on AIDS and Kaposi's sarcoma can be found on the PubMed website. He is the author of AIDS and the Doctors of Death: An Inquiry Into the Origin of the AIDS Epidemic (1988) and Queer Blood: The Secret AIDS Genocide Plot (1993), both published by Aries Rising Press, and available through Internet sources.)

Alan Cantwell M.D.
alancantwell@sbcglobal.net
http://www.ariesrisingpress.com

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Anyone else here this story?
Some crazy ****.. Some homo was having orgies with other guys while taking Crystal Meth and he contracted a new strand of the HIV virus.
The thing about this case is that it becomes Aids much much faster and none of the drugs what generally work on HIV patients, to slow down the process of the virus activating, work.
I hear it turns to full-blown aids in 2-3 months instead of the normal 8 to 10-year thing.
They're looking for his partners...just thought I'd let you guys know..



P.S. so be careful next time you want to :luvbed:

Not to be a dick, but if tweaker ***s get aids and die, I really dont give a ****. :boxing: