Zab Super Judah
02-15-2005, 12:50 AM
to prove that he could take a junior middleweight punch...MAYORGA wins this one
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View Full Version : Spinks Wants Mayorga At 154 Zab Super Judah 02-15-2005, 12:50 AM to prove that he could take a junior middleweight punch...MAYORGA wins this one Warrior Spirit 02-15-2005, 12:53 AM Mayorga wins by KO, Spinks is a fool for fighting at 154. Hurlex 02-15-2005, 12:53 AM spinks wants to get ko'ed by mayorga...aww i say let him...mayorga didnt catch him good the first time,he will this time at 154 loangunZ 02-15-2005, 01:32 AM wow why would he ever ask for this fight again neils7147933 02-15-2005, 01:48 AM wow why would he ever ask for this fight again there are few name fighters at 154 that would command an audience against a fighter like him. this is a smart move for him. i'm not sure he wins though. the first one was very close and Mayorga wasn't on. At 154, with Winky and Tito already fighting each other, there's not too many high-profile opponents for Spinks. Fighting an Ouma or Verno Phillips or Kofi Jantuah is still an undercard match. I can see Don King matching him up against Eric Mitchell as well... Floydmayweather 02-15-2005, 02:15 AM Mayorga is going to knock him out. FightFan214 02-15-2005, 04:04 AM Mayorga is going to knock him out. Yeah, Mayorga by KO! spinksjinx 02-15-2005, 05:15 AM All you people are crazy, Mayorga couldnt knock Spinks out at 147 where he was a power house. At 154 Mayorga shows no power at all, If Cory brings his speed it is just the same as the first fight. Dont get your panties in a twist because Zab was able to knock Cory out. Zab actually boxed, Mayorga will slug and Cory will tap at Mayorga to win points. Dont kid yourself, this was said during the first fight. Mayorga hasnt looked good since his wins over Forrest. His only fight at 154 was against Eric Mitchell and Mayorga looked like garbage, he didnt even look a bit impressive against Tito and if he did it was because Tito made him look good. Mayorga doesnt have **** on Spinks at 147 let alone 154, where he has no power. rudy 02-15-2005, 07:38 AM Mayorga will be a world champion at 154 spinksjinx 02-15-2005, 07:51 AM Mayorga will be a world champion at 154 PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS! Every top level fighter at 154 has strong chins and are boxers with credible speed. On top of that they are southpaws. Mayorga wont be nothing at 154 or 160 not even at 147. Mayorga will be a gatekeeper for the up and comers. Mayorga hasnt looked good in atleast 2 years. If Jantuah probably the hardest hitting 154 pounder today couldnt knock out Ouma. Their isnt any possible way a powerless Mayorga can, especially with the chins in that division. To top it off, the last highlight you might see of Mayorga is against Vargas in which I favor even him at 154 against Mayorga. This guy is damaged goods. jabsRstiff 02-15-2005, 07:53 AM I truly hope this fight doesn't come off. The first fight was HORRENDOUS. Why would anyone want to see a rematch ? spinksjinx 02-15-2005, 07:56 AM I truly hope this fight doesn't come off. The first fight was HORRENDOUS. Why would anyone want to see a rematch ? I wouldnt pay a nickel to see it. Their is no need for a rematch, the first wasnt exciting or compelling enough to make a demand for it. PRboxingfan 02-15-2005, 08:40 AM I thought Mayo won the first fight (even with the 2 points deducted) so there is no reason for me to think a different outcome will come of this fight. Mayo wins, maybe even KO's him since Spinks will be weary coming back from his first KO loss. spinksjinx 02-15-2005, 08:48 AM I thought Mayo won the first fight (even with the 2 points deducted) so there is no reason for me to think a different outcome will come of this fight. Mayo wins, maybe even KO's him since Spinks will be weary coming back from his first KO loss. Go in detail? At 147: Mayorga possessed some of the best power in the division, yet he was unable to hurt spinks. Provided that Spinks would maintain his normal speed at 154, how could Mayorga do anymore damage then he already had done? Mayorga is a slower and doesnt possess any heavy hitting power at 154. Not to mention, he only had 1 fight their. What leads you people to believe Mayorga could beat Spinks this time around? Spinks would be just as fast and Mayorga would be slow and powerless. Have you people not watched Mayorgas last 3 fights? On top of that, Zab would kill Mayorga. Mayorga was tailor made for anybody who can box with speed. Zab broke down Spinks with boxing and fast movements. MAYORGA HAS NONE OF THIS! Mayorga loops his punches and with head and body movement he will miss. Sure hang onto the last thread of this hopeless Gatekeeper, but he will go nowhere. Mayorga is finished. I am not being harsh because I like Spinks, but I dont favor Mayorga against any top fighter at 147-160. He hasnt looked impressive and hasnt brought his power with him. For Christs Sake, Mitchell wasnt even effected by Mayorga. Kimmy 02-15-2005, 08:59 AM Tend to agree with SpinksJinx on this one. The only reason people are picking mayorga is because he is a puncher and people think he is more exciting than Spinks. Cory beat him before at 147, i think it wasn`t as close as the scorecards suggested. Don`t know if Spinks will be better at 154, i don`t think he will chnge much but if you look at Mayorga`s stop start career of late and the fact that this guy is rarely in the gym and drinks beers at weigh ins I think Spinks is a more respectful professinal and Mayorga hasn`t shown anything to suggest that he can beat Spinks in a rematch! Stickman 02-15-2005, 09:10 AM I think a Spinks/Mayorga matchup will always be the same fight, no matter what weight it's at. One fighter dancing, and pitty-pattering the other guy while the other guy tries to land just one solid punch on the dancer. As boring as it gets. I can't stand Spinks...not because he isn't a good boxer (he is), but because he refuses to stop moving long enough to set down on his punches and generate some power, because he doesn't want to take the chance of getting hit. He's pretty lanky and almost certainly could hit with decent power if he wanted to, and could make for some great fights, but he's a chicken-**** and doesn't want to risk it. That's his choice, but I'll never be able to tolerate his ring performances until he does. And what really makes it stupid is that he's going to get hit anyway. Nobody can dance for 12 rounds without slowing down a little, and a patient fighter, with good speed and power, is almost certainly going to catch him with a good shot or 3 later in a fight, which is precisely what happened to him against Judah. spinksjinx 02-15-2005, 09:14 AM I think a Spinks/Mayorga matchup will always be the same fight, no matter what weight it's at. One fighter dancing, and pitty-pattering the other guy while the other guy tries to land just one solid punch on the dancer. As boring as it gets. I can't stand Spinks...not because he isn't a good boxer (he is), but because he refuses to stop moving long enough to set down on his punches and generate some power, because he doesn't want to take the chance of getting hit. He's pretty lanky and almost certainly could hit with decent power if he wanted to, and could make for some great fights, but he's a chicken-**** and doesn't want to risk it. That's his choice, but I'll never be able to tolerate his ring performances until he does. And what really makes it stupid is that he's going to get hit anyway. Nobody can dance for 12 rounds without slowing down a little, and a patient fighter, with good speed and power, is almost certainly going to catch him with a good shot or 3 later in a fight, which is precisely what happened to him against Judah. You like sluggers and not boxers, the sport is to hit and not be hit. Whether Spinks is knocking guys out, he touches his glove against their body and doesnt get hit. Thats the name of the game and that is how it is scored. The true science isnt knocking guys out, that isnt what boxing ever intended to be. Stickman 02-15-2005, 09:28 AM You like sluggers and not boxers, the sport is to hit and not be hit. Whether Spinks is knocking guys out, he touches his glove against their body and doesnt get hit. Thats the name of the game and that is how it is scored. The true science isnt knocking guys out, that isnt what boxing ever intended to be. No, I like a fighter who can box, but is willing to risk slowing down and adding power to his shots when the chance arises. What I don't like is a boxer who runs for 12 rounds, throwing light jabs and right hands that could almost be called feints, hoping for a decision. And what's really annoying about Spinks is that he was willing to show some power when he was fighting guys at far lower skill levels. Check his record. The guys he KO'd were mostly chumps, and he knew he could risk slowing down and putting more on his punches because he probably wouldn't be hit anyway. Like I said, it's his choice to fight that way, but as long as he does, the only reason I'll ever watch him fight is for the chance to see him get knocked on his ass. spinksjinx 02-15-2005, 09:40 AM No, I like a fighter who can box, but is willing to risk slowing down and adding power to his shots when the chance arises. What I don't like is a boxer who runs for 12 rounds, throwing light jabs and right hands that could almost be called feints, hoping for a decision. And what's really annoying about Spinks is that he was willing to show some power when he was fighting guys at far lower skill levels. Check his record. The guys he KO'd were mostly chumps, and he knew he could risk slowing down and putting more on his punches because he probably wouldn't be hit anyway. Like I said, it's his choice to fight that way, but as long as he does, the only reason I'll ever watch him fight is for the chance to see him get knocked on his ass. Ali was notorious for using footwork to outwork his opponents same goes for Leonard. Nothing different with Spinks. OliverNo1 02-15-2005, 10:22 AM Ali was notorious for using footwork to outwork his opponents same goes for Leonard. Nothing different with Spinks. Hmm Ali, Leonard and SPINKS?, Dont belong in the same sentence. Spinks struggles with B fighters like Mayorga, the other two are Hall of Famers..... PRboxingfan 02-15-2005, 10:33 AM Go in detail? At 147: Mayorga possessed some of the best power in the division, yet he was unable to hurt spinks. Provided that Spinks would maintain his normal speed at 154, how could Mayorga do anymore damage then he already had done? [b]Refer up, Mayo did do damage to Spinks Mayorga is a slower and doesnt possess any heavy hitting power at 154. Not to mention, he only had 1 fight their. He had one fight at 154 and he didn't impress, yes. However, just because he looked bad against one fighter whom he was looking past doesn't mean he won't be a contender. He gave Tito one hell of a fight at 160 so I think he'll be good at 154. He also fought a fighter who had never been down in his career. Some people just have good chins. You can't knock out everyone, no matter how hard you hit. What leads you people to believe Mayorga could beat Spinks this time around? Because he won the first fight. I had him ahead by one point, even with the two point deductions, at 113-112. Spinks would be just as fast and Mayorga would be slow and powerless. Have you people not watched Mayorgas last 3 fights? On top of that, Zab would kill Mayorga. I don't think he would. I think Forest hits harder than Judah and Mayo took his power just fine. Judah would get caught with a Mayo right and go do the chicken dance again. Mayorga was tailor made for anybody who can box with speed. Zab broke down Spinks with boxing and fast movements. MAYORGA HAS NONE OF THIS! Mayorga loops his punches and with head and body movement he will miss. Sure hang onto the last thread of this hopeless Gatekeeper, but he will go nowhere. Mayorga is finished. I am not being harsh because I like Spinks, but I dont favor Mayorga against any top fighter at 147-160. He hasnt looked impressive and hasnt brought his power with him. For Christs Sake, Mitchell wasnt even effected by Mayorga. I disagree with you and have bolded my replies to your quote. scramwarrior 02-15-2005, 12:55 PM I don't even want to see this fight. I can already see the "excitement" of Mayorga chasing Spinks around the ring hoping to land just one good one while Spinks dances and throws sissy punches that don't even faze Mayorga. And then Spinks will get the decision. Spinks is the freakin' Chris Byrd of the lower weights and now that he has no belts, I doubt many fighters will accept his challenge. Mayorga needs to find a more worthy contender who might actually fight with him. Drug Fiend 02-15-2005, 01:23 PM wondering if anyone noticed that the "fearful" 9th rd was spinks demise. same as jones jr, delahoya and (you fill this space) ... just coincidence or does it weigh on a boxers mind on an sub conscious level? i think mayorga might catch spinsk but likely an even better points win than before for spinks abdiel2k3 02-15-2005, 01:30 PM idk this one might go same way as the first both keep same basic advantages cept mayo might have even more trouble following spinks around with that extra weight jack_the_rippuh 02-15-2005, 02:08 PM I don't know if anyone else mentioned this, but am I the only one who wants to see Mayorga vs. Ouma? PRboxingfan 02-15-2005, 02:36 PM I don't know if anyone else mentioned this, but am I the only one who wants to see Mayorga vs. Ouma? That would be one hell of a fight. I'd favor Ouma on just work rate. QueenCity 02-15-2005, 02:41 PM wow why would he ever ask for this fight again I know it the first fight was as bad as it gets, these two guys should stay as far away from each other as possible. Eman 02-15-2005, 02:42 PM Ouma has a good chin but no one compares to Mayorga. Ouma i think is stronger but the fight will last 12. I wanna see if ouma can get past mayos wild punches. Spinks won but the last fight but i think it was close and could have went either way. If mayo hits him clean its all over though for spinks. For his sake i hope he runs the entire 12. Hurlex 02-15-2005, 04:07 PM you dont give mayorga enough credit...unless u have felt mayorga hit you at 154 u cant or anyone for thar matter say he doesnt have power when he does plus his chin would give him a chance against anyone. Please..154?Santos and everyonje are crap except for winky and ouma...ouma vs mayorga or mayorga vs winky would generate a lot of money and fans...and i think spinks would get killed by mayorga at this weight, Mayorga deserves more credit then a lot of your are giving him. His biggest test will probably be his first fight (simms) cuz ouma hits you about 1000 times but doesnt hurt you once so mayorga at 154 will be a great addition...The gatti of 154 FrankJack 02-15-2005, 04:10 PM I don't see Mayorga winning a rematch against Spinks. In their first fight, I will say that Ricardo was cheated out of a knockdown though. But I've gotta agree, if Mayorga couldn't finish Spinks at 147 where he was supposed to be so powerful, how can he do it at 154? We saw how he looked fighting at 160, he started getting tired in the first round. 154, I don't see Ricardo doin much unless he learns himself a little bit of technique. m00ks 02-15-2005, 04:50 PM Make a long story short, if Spinks can bring his speed at 154, shouldn't be any different this time around. slavik18 02-15-2005, 04:52 PM I wouldnt pay a nickel to see it. Their is no need for a rematch, the first wasnt exciting or compelling enough to make a demand for it. STFU Spinks fanboy. In your avatar you have Spinks world champion, obviously you are biased. Mayorga is making changes, he ditched his trainer,got himself some new ones, that are apparently working him to his limi. He is now seriously training. He admit the mistakes he made before with his boxing, and says he is trying to change them. He wants to be ready for every fight. BTW, Spinks vs Mayorga was ****ing hilarious. What Spinks tripped like 50 times :confused: No, he got ktfo. Just because the ref didn't call it, everbody knows Mayorga won that. Thank god Spinks is now officially worthless. He has no belts, and is boring to even watch. I like Mayorga because he is entertaining and he can really take a punch. After May 21, 2005 he will be Champ. Tha Greatest 02-16-2005, 12:12 AM I LOVE MAYORGA but i think spinks can beat him, he weighs in 160+ in his fights now, i think it will be better for him to weigh in at 154 joeboxer 02-16-2005, 12:28 AM Spinx was soooo heavy last time, either 154 is a better weight for him or he didn't train right. dino 02-16-2005, 01:06 AM Mayorga will be a world champion at 154 mayorga is not a top 7 or 8 154 pounder...hes like gatti at 154 Floydmayweather 02-16-2005, 01:09 AM I think he can ko spinks but to be the champ Mayorga should go back down to 147. Eman 02-16-2005, 05:15 PM i dont think going to 147 will do make him champ with DLH and mosley going down to that weight. |