I'm a big fan of Tupac and I have read alot into his death and the fact that it could have been faked due to alot of supporting facts. I wanted to bring the subject up and hear everyones opinions on it, do you think Tupac is still alive and why, or do you think he is dead? I have TONS of facts I could list here but it would take some time..I'll list a few to start it off.

1.) Tupac studied and read the books of Don Makaveli while he was in prison, Makaveli was known for faking his death and doing things to escape from his enemies. Tupac read and studied him alot and even changed his name from tupac to makaveli.

2.) The video "I Ain't Mad At Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I Ain't Mad At Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyez On Me. The video shows 2Pac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend; very similar to the real situation. After his video death, his next song was not by tupac, but by Makaveli, it was titled "toss it up". In his one record insert it said EXIT TUPAC, ENTER MAKAVELI

3.) Tupac was shot on September 7th, he lived 7 days and died at 4:03, 4+3=7. 12 bullets were shot at him, only 5 hit him, leaving 7 that didn't

4.) 2Pac's first release on Suge Knight's Death Row label, All Eyez On Me, was released on February 13, 1996 - exactly seven months before his death.

5.) A voice on the album says, "And if the Lord returns in the coming seven days, then we'll see ya next time."

6.) 2Pac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He claims his head was "grazed" by a bullet.. Why did 2Pac get hit all those times and not Suge? And why is there no medical documents to prove Suge's injury?

7.)In the video of the song "Smile" by Scarface and 2Pac, many say the reason why "2Pac" never looks at the camera is because it’s a look-alike. Also the video shows a car just like the one 2Pac got shot in… and the car has bullet holes in it.

I also heard in one video, the clock on the wall reads 4:03, and all the numbers on the clock are 7's. The menu he is reading from, all the L's are upside down 7's, strange. Feel free to add more facts to the thread.

Apparently there aren't a ton of people familiar with all of this.

If there were, someone would have stepped up and said something when some of the site's clowns were getting on me for my "Makaveli" return 7 days following my "farewell thread."

They took it to mean I was claiming to be a gangsta, even though my real hometown is in my profile and I used all lyrics from the Makaveli album, with some BoxingScene name substitutions to give it some "Snaps" flavor...

Oh well, at least no one's made a thread making fun of me for "claiming to be a party photographer..."

...anyway, I tend to think he's really dead, but last I read, his mother hadn't cashed in his sizeable life insurance policy.

If she were to do so, any "faked death" would be a felony for Mr. Shakur. I suppose it's possible he could still be alive, but he would have had to do major plastic surgery to mask his appearance. In the days of the Internet, it's hard to stay hidden.

Still, it's interesting to hear him talk about Biggie dying on an unreleased track on the Greatest Hits album and also seem to be talking to Obie Trice on his new one. You can really do anything with voice equipment anymore...

...anyway, I tend to think he's really dead, but last I read, his mother hadn't cashed in his sizeable life insurance policy.

If she were to do so, any "faked death" would be a felony for Mr. Shakur. I suppose it's possible he could still be alive, but he would have had to do major plastic surgery to mask his appearance. In the days of the Internet, it's hard to stay hidden.

Still, it's interesting to hear him talk about Biggie dying on an unreleased track on the Greatest Hits album and also seem to be talking to Obie Trice on his new one. You can really do anything with voice equipment anymore...

are you talkin about god bless the dead where he says"rest in peact to my mother****er biggie smalls"? if so ive heard that he isnt talking about christopher wallace but about another "biggie smalls" who had died.

are you talkin about god bless the dead where he says"rest in peact to my mother****er biggie smalls"? if so ive heard that he isnt talking about christopher wallace but about another "biggie smalls" who had died.

I didn't realize there were multiple "Biggie Smalls"

I didn't realize there were multiple "Biggie Smalls"

yeah i think thats why biggies rap name was notorious big because some guy in miami(i think) had already used "biggie smalls"

2pac is chillin in Cuba...btw didn't his mom did the same when she was young?

ive heard proof (d12) ay something like
"if i was tupac id come back from cuba"

just goes to show that even the rappers think
tupac might still be alive.

but why fake your own death.

and surely he wouldnt do that to his much loved mum :rolleyes:

heres the fukin whole thing....

Friday the 13th is a very suspicious day.

There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital.

In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral.

The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the executive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting.

The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I ain't Mad at Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyes On Me. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend, which is very similar to how he was shot in real life. Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "Tupac". His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli".

The second video to be released by the name Makaveli is "To Live and Die in L.A." But how could they shoot the second video when he is "dead". Do you really think the video was shot 4 months ago, back in August of '96? Think about it.

In the video "Hail Mary" released under the name Makaveli, there is a gravestone that says Makaveli. But the gravestone is cracked and there is a hole right in front of it, inferring that Makaveli rose from the dead.

A shooting involving Snoop Doggy Dogg occured close to the release of his album Doggystyle. The shooting made Snoop appear more "real" and showed his fans that he really was a gangsta. The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium. Snoop is signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records. In December '96, Tupac's new album went platinum.

In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight ??? (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.)

There are no suspects for the shooting.

Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was cancelled for unknown reasons.

Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went. Why didn't he wear it to a very public event like a Tyson fight? (Because he wanted to make it seem like he could be shot.)

In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly cremated the day after he "died"? And since when do they cremate someone the day after death without an autopsy? Furthermore, it is illegal to bury someone who has been murdered without an autopsy.

The new Tupac album released on Nov. 5, and was originally supposed to be an EP of 6 songs, but was then extended to a full length album of 12 songs.

Tupac's alias is Makaveli. Though the spelling is different, Machiavelli was a 16th century italian philosopher who advocated the staging of one's death in order to evade one's enemies and gain power.

In Machiavelli's book Discourses Upon the First Ten Books of Titus Livy, in Book 2 Chapter XIII he says "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to deceive". This is Machiavelli's main idea and is the connection between Tupac and the writings of Machiavelli.

The title of the new album by Makaveli (Tupac) is The 7 Day Theory. He was shot on September 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th. Hence the title The 7 Day Theory.

Tupac's album All Eyes on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996. Tupac "died" on Sept.13, 1996. It is quite a coincidence that the two dates are exactly 7 months apart.

Tupac officially died at 4:03 PM. 4 3 = 7 Also he "died" at an age of 25 years. 2 5 = 7 It seems as if seven is Tupac's number.

There is nothing in the new album that says TUPAC RIP 1971-1996. Wouldn't it make sense to include something like that in the first album after his "death"? The only thing mentioned is "EXIT TUPAC ENTER MAKAVELI".

The executive producer of The 7 Day Theory , as listed in the CD booklet of the album, is Simon (who is a previously unknown producer in the rap music industry). In the bible, Simon was an apostle of Jesus. Simon was one of the first witnesses of the Resurrection listed by Saint Paul (I Cor. 15: 5). Could Simon be a reference to Suge Knight(the executive producer of Death Row records)? Simon was renamed "Peter, the rock" (John 1:42).

In Richie Rich's album Seasoned Veteran, which was released on the same day as The 7 Day Theory, on the song "N*ggas Done Changed" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says the following lyrics: "I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it happened word for word / but best believe that n*ggas' gonna get what they deserve." This phrase implies that Tupac knows he will be dead when Richie Rich's album is released.

In Makaveli's (Tupac's) song "White Man's World" on album The 7 Day Theory, he says "We ain't never gonna walk off this planet unless ya'll choose to." Did he choose to walk off the planet by faking his death?

In Tupac's song "Ambitionz az a Ridah" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "Blast me but they didn't finish, didn't diminish my powers so now I'm back to be a muthaf*ckin' menace, they cowards thats why they tried to set me up, had b*tch *ss n*ggas on my team so indeed they wet me up, BUT I'M BACK REINCARNATED." This implies that Tupac is reincarnated as Makaveli.

In Tupac's song "Life of an Outlaw" on the album The 7 Day Theory, he says "All for the street fame on how to be managed, to plan sh*t, 6 months in advance to what we plotted, approved to go on swole and now I got it"-Life Of An Outlaw. This implies that Tupac planned his "death" in advance and now he is enjoying the success of his plan.

In Tupac's song "Made *****z" from the Supercop Soundtrack, he says "F*ck 'em all who don't understand my plot to get richer... Outlaw to the grave, a muthaf*ckin' made ***** I got a plan to get richer. Take my picture." Once again he mentions his "plan" to get rich.

In E-40's album Hall Of Game in the song "Million Dollar Spot" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says, "Fans can't understand my ghetto slang, so i evade and plot and plan a life of better things...." Once again Tupac mentions his "plan".

In Tupac's song "Ain't Hard 2 Find" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "I heard rumors I died, murdered in cold blood, tramatized pictures of me in my final states, you know momma cryed, but that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted." It seems as if Tupac foretold the future.

Scarface's song "Smile", which is a duet with Tupac, was supposedly recorded in September of '96, before Tupac was "shot". But the video for the song was released in May of '97 and the video depicts Tupac rapping while he appears to be crucified. At the end of the video, Tupac falls off the cross and stands up...which is another image of resurection. Towards the end of the video, it becomes slightly apparent that Tupac is actually portrayed by a look-alike. I still wonder, if he is really dead, then why do they keep making everyone so suspicious???

In the video for "I Wonder if Heaven Got a Ghetto" the town it takes place in is called Rukahs. "Rukahs" spelled backwards is "Shakur". The room he goes into with the girl is room number 7. The clock in the background at the end is at 4:03...the same time he officially died. More funny stuff from the video producers. My question still remains, why?

In Tupac's song "No More Pain" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "A heart of a soldier with the brains to teach a whole nation." Could this be a reference to Machievelli or Jesus?

On the cover of The 7 Day Theory, there is a picture of Tupac being crucified. This fits with the idea that Tupac "died" so he could be reincarnated as Makaveli. In the picture, there are five bullet holes. Interestingly, Tupac was "shot" 5 times.

The only witness to the shooting, Yafeu Fula, was found shot to death on Nov. 10th in a hallway of an apartment building in East Orange, NJ. Hmm...now no one will get any info out of him. (for more info on his death, click here.)

After the shooting of Notorious B.I.G. on March 9th, 1997 Lieutenant Wayne Petersen of the the homicide division of the Las Vegas Police Department who has been investigating Shakur's alleged killing said, "Before yesterday, I had never even heard of the Notorious B.I.G. There is no link between the two murders. We think the only connection is in the minds of the media. The media wants to connect the two." If you asked anyone who knows anything about the Tupac case, they would say something about the rivalry between Biggie and Tupac. How will the Las Vegas police ever solve the case if they don't know the basics? The answer is that they won't. C'mon guys, that is pretty pathetic.

According to my friend Roger as well as numerous other sources, in the first three seconds of The 7 Day Theory, the words "Suge shot me" are spoken very softly. Check it out for yourself, but that certainly is suspicious and it must mean something. Click here for the sample as it appears on the CD.

According to Neal, on the song "Thug Luv" which is a duet with Tupac on Bone Thugs-N-Harmony's double CD Art Of War after Tupac says "whuz poppin' n*gga", Bizzy Bone can be heard saying "He's Alive He's Alive He's Alive" in the background. Click here for the sample.

During an interview, an ABC correspondent asked Suge Knight, "If you knew who killed Tupac, would you tell the police?". Suge answered, "Absolutely not."

On November 25, 1997 a new 2 Pac album will be released on Jive Records called R U Still Down. It is being released under the name "2 Pac" not "Makaveli". This implies many things...does this mean that "2 pac" is back?

I have heard there is a "new" artist called "Blac Haze". The song that I have heard by them is called "Let Me Holla At Cha". A clip can be downloaded here from the site Exit-2 pac-Enter-Makaveli. The rapper sounds like Tupac, at least to me. Check it out for yourself.

In the video "Heaven Gotta Ghetto", the license plate of the car that he gets in with the older man reads "61671". Another obvious occurance of the number seven and the sum of seven (6 1).

This bit of info comes from Michael Penn: In the CD booklet of the "R U Still Down" album the it is written "Keep the faith in me I wont let u down...love 2pac". Can he be advising us not to dwell on his "death" because he is coming back?

This comes from Mike Frankel: If you rearrange the letters in the album title "Makaveli The Don Killuminati The 7Day Theory" You can make the sentence "Ok on tha 7th u think I'm dead yet I'm really alive". Mike explains "7th meaning the 7th day after he was shot, he supposedly died but is really alive." That's quite amazing, try it for yourself.

During an interview, an ABC correspondent asked Suge Knight, "If you knew who killed Tupac, would you tell the police?". Suge answered, "Absolutely not."

On November 25, 1997 a new 2 Pac album will be released on Jive Records called R U Still Down. It is being released under the name "2 Pac" not "Makaveli". This implies many things...does this mean that "2 pac" is back?

I have heard there is a "new" artist called "Blac Haze". The song that I have heard by them is called "Let Me Holla At Cha". A clip can be downloaded here from the site Exit-2 pac-Enter-Makaveli. The rapper sounds like Tupac, at least to me. Check it out for yourself.

In the video "Heaven Gotta Ghetto", the license plate of the car that he gets in with the older man reads "61671". Another obvious occurance of the number seven and the sum of seven (6 1).

This bit of info comes from Michael Penn: In the CD booklet of the "R U Still Down" album the it is written "Keep the faith in me I wont let u down...love 2pac". Can he be advising us not to dwell on his "death" because he is coming back?

This comes from Mike Frankel: If you rearrange the letters in the album title "Makaveli The Don Killuminati The 7Day Theory" You can make the sentence "Ok on tha 7th u think I'm dead yet I'm really alive". Mike explains "7th meaning the 7th day after he was shot, he supposedly died but is really alive." That's quite amazing, try it for yourself.
ive played around with those anagram generators and theres
alot of stuff can be made from long sentences.

the rest is good....i know loads more already.

still know zero about the biggie killing..

As much as Id love for Pac to be alive. I cant believe it. I think everybody should let that issue die. Let the man R.I.P. And even if he isnt dead, there must be a good reason why he wants to stay hidden. So let the man stay hidden.
I mean, if he doesnt want to be found He wont be found. But you did good putting all that evidence out there like that. And in the "End of Time" video, he had on shoes that didnt come out till after like a year after he died. Thats one of the many crazy things surrounding the mans life and death, but nobodys ever going to know.
And i saw a documentary one time about the murders of Pac and Biggie and a couple people on the movie named names. So i mean there probably are some suspects, the police probably know exactly who it was but they cant prove it. Or hes already dead. I dont remember specifics from the movie cuz it was a while back and i was kinda loaded at the time :(

i always thought a cop who worked for suge did it.
ive heard it confirmed from a few sources too.

i always thought a cop who worked for suge did it.
ive heard it confirmed from a few sources too.

have you seen the movie "Welcome to Death Row"?

They show the cop and his picture with Suge Knight both wearing the gang affiliated red...

I know the picture your talking about. The name of the documentary was "2Pac and Biggie". I saw it on some independant film channel at my aunts house.
Come to think of it, they did say it was a cop that was affiliated with Suge that killed Biggie, but i dont remember who they said killed Pac.

I think he's most definately dead, I've even seen a picture of him on the autopsy table all cut open.

Check it out

http://www.celebritymorgue.com/tupac-shakur/

did you guys see that special like a couple of years ago on mtv... about the guy that wrote a newspaper article... that's saying how biggie really did kill pac... like how biggie called some crips to do it for him... and **** like that...

did you guys see that special like a couple of years ago on mtv... about the guy that wrote a newspaper article... that's saying how biggie really did kill pac... like how biggie called some crips to do it for him... and **** like that...

that was one theory brought up in "Welcome to Death Row". According to that, Biggie provided the gun for the murder...

that pic proves nothing..his face is turned away :rolleyes:
i probably got confused about the cop doing the killing

i saw that film biggie and pac too...
yrs ago

1.) Tupac studied and read the books of Don Makaveli while he was in prison, Makaveli was known for faking his death and doing things to escape from his enemies. Tupac read and studied him alot and even changed his name from tupac to makaveli.

Actually, the name is Niccolo Macchiavelli and he is considered to be the father of modern politics. He never faked his own death or was and "underground prince" like some people claim. He simply wrote "The Prince" where he said that faking one's death was a good way to buy time and deceive your enemies. In his book "The Prince" he advices "Princes" on how to rule a kingdom, even if it means commiting inmoral acts.

Tupac is dead, all those conpiracy theories are ridiculous. Suge had him killed because he owed him a lot of money.

Actually, the name is Niccolo Macchiavelli and he is considered to be the father of modern politics. He never faked his own death or was and "underground prince" like some people claim. He simply wrote "the Art of War" where he said that faking one's death was a good way to buy time and deceive your enemies. In his book "The Prince" he advices "Princes" on how to rule a kingdom, even if it means commiting inmoral acts.

Tupac is dead, all those conpiracy theories are ridiculous. Suge had him killed because he owed him a lot of money.


.....And that about sums it up ladies and gentlemen!!!!

crazy **** here, i always said he was still alive cause he keeps coming out with songs, even though everyone says he recorded a grip of songs before his death, NOW i know that ****er is still alive, he has to be! Another thing i heard is that he faked his death cause he had mad beef with a grip of people,so he faked his death be4 he really did get taken out.

Biggy killed Tupac, Tupac is dead.

OH MY GOD!!!! I can sit here and stair at your AV for hours, 50 is the finest man ive ever seen :luvbed:

OH MY GOD!!!! I can sit here and stair at your AV for hours, 50 is the finest man ive ever seen :luvbed:
yeah but hes into having sex, he aint into making love. :D

G-Unit "The 5 Heartbeats"

Given the proper resources (namely time and ambition), one could quite conceivably find any number of suspicious circumstances surrounding just about any event. A good example is the Amazing $20 (http://www.foldmoney.com/20.htm).

Theorizing is always fun and interesting, but Tupac Shakur is dead.

if i ever met 50, i swear id be his *****, id do what ever he asked me 2, and i mean that! :love:

OH MY GOD!!!! I can sit here and stair at your AV for hours, 50 is the finest man ive ever seen :luvbed:Well you have 7000 posts, cant you firgue out, how to get a AV, of your own allready?

i had one but it was stich, but now i want 50, but then id be coping you, so i'll wait.

i had one but it was stich, but now i want 50, but then id be coping you, so i'll wait.
so has you user name always been AgonY^x0?

with over 7000posts i thought id recognize ya.

sooooo...

dont suppose your a big klitschko fan :confused:

2 pac and biggie are chillin together in an island near Fl.

so has you user name always been AgonY^x0?

with over 7000posts i thought id recognize ya.

sooooo...

dont suppose your a big klitschko fan :confused:


my other user names are GeminiB17ch, and playfulagony, but i do use this one all the time. How do u recongize me, i mean from where?

my other user names are GeminiB17ch, and playfulagony, but i do use this one all the time. How do u recongize me, i mean from where?
i dont recognize ya...but thought i should since
ive been here for quite awhile.

anyways i dont recognize any of your user names
so obviously ive just not seen ya around before
(or was too stoned to notice)

peace

:confused:

Que!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:confused:
ok whats confusing..

i thought that because youve had over 7000posts
id of recognized your user name..

with the recent name change frenzy its hard to
remember whos who which is why i asked what
your user names were before..

thats it.

wish id never mentioned it hehe

:luvbed:

i understand what you said, im just messing around with you. ;)

i understand what you said, im just messing around with you. ;)
and while your being so playful you can tell me
where ya from and how old you are :)

...spose i should too...

UK,22YRS

ok how can i make this not look like a chatroom
chatup.ahhhhhh i know hehe

California,23 years old and my name is Kimberlee. :)

Here she is throwing the "2 in the pink, 1 in the stink" gang related sign.

http://vax.hanford.org/zsoul/chola/chola4.jpg

hahahahah shut the **** up with that crap already! :boxing:

haha is that really you..

nice..

like littlealice hehe

HELL NO thats not me, people just got jokes thats all. lol

HELL NO thats not me, people just got jokes thats all. lol
****..so what do you REALLY look like...

ive got a bad pic of me thats below
http://www.boxingscene.com/s******/b2.JPG

go to the off topic of global, and look 4 the thread "mister curly" theres pic there.

who the hell is AgonY^x0

im one of the posters from global

im one of the posters from global
never seen you here b4, how did you get that many post? Did they Carry over? Oh And welcome

yeah all the people from global keep there info the same i guess.so who are you?

I wanna bite one of your butt cheeks, Kimmie.

Zuffa make it happen.

Your new AV sucks Kimee, what happened too the ***** with the bouncing tits?

Your new AV sucks Kimee, what happened too the ***** with the bouncing tits?


hahahaha curly got sick of it and said it didnt fit me,so they changed it a while back, where have you been bobby? is your computer fixed yet?

yeah all the people from global keep there info the same i guess.so who are you?
everyone knows me here, I was the # 1 poster till you came along, lol but itts cool , welcome. bigdlb12 from USA, bigd = Dallas and lb12 is my hood

5000 posts in less than a year...

YOU = the coolest

hahaha i have a little bit of posts compared to the other people from global.

5000 posts in less than a year...

YOU = the coolest
thank you , I feel special ;) , so whats up? who all cma efrom the globe?

hahaha i have a little bit of posts compared to the other people from global.
:bottle: lmao alil, damn well I had the most here

if pac was still in the game... i will gaurantee that he will come after 50 and g unit...

:grouphug: dont be sad lol

if pac was still in the game... i will gaurantee that he will come after 50 and g unit...
If pac was still in the game there would be no 50 or g-unit.

i use to really like 2 pac, now his music is just anoying, like every once in a while ill listen to a song but thats barly, he really isnt all that, its only cause he is dead (so we think) why people TRY to keep his crap alive.

If pac was still in the game there would be no 50 or g-unit.
or alot of this other BS rappers

Another thing I find kind of weird is that In the song "life goes on" 2pac talks about his funeral and how he'd like it to be a party. Instead, 2pac was creamated the day after he died, and never had an autopsy. Weird thing is, there are pictures of his autopsy, that he never had. There is no record of him having an autopsy done, and who gets creamated the day after a murder. His ashes were thrown into the ocean. I think the reason they did this is so nobody could ask to dig up tupac and examine his body in later years. People just assume he is dead and that's it. Tupac is still alive, and will shock everyone when he comes back, he faked his death to get the attention off him, and when he comes back, people will be all over it.

I'm very happy the thread took off, I'm a big fan of Tupac and I'm glad to see other people take interest in him and his puzzling "death"

Now you are really pushing it. It is impossible for a murder victim not to have an autopsy.

I guess if some people think Elvis is alive, so can Tupac.

Now you are really pushing it. It is impossible for a murder victim not to have an autopsy.

I guess if some people think Elvis is alive, so can Tupac.
what? Elvis is dead? :eek: when did this happen? :confused: next thing you know, you will be telling me that the lead singer for Nirvana is dead too :(




Well anything can happen, so who really knows :cool:

what? Elvis is dead? :eek: when did this happen? :confused: next thing you know, you will be telling me that the lead singer for Nirvana is dead too :(




Well anything can happen, so who really knows :cool:
if you see kurt cobain tell him, bring back my shotgun,

blow my anaconda like nirvana,

feeling suicidal, just like nirvana.

Now you are really pushing it. It is impossible for a murder victim not to have an autopsy.

I guess if some people think Elvis is alive, so can Tupac.
Read around on the internet, he never had an autopsy and was creamated the next day, I know what I'm talking about. Read before you start disbelieving

What if I told you all I knew who shot and killed Tupac..

What if I told you all I knew who shot and killed Tupac..
You'd probably be shot by somebody involved with Suge in a matter of days, though I'm not too sure if Suge visits BoxingScene. But it'd be pretty cool Jack, sell it to the public and make millions. Doubt you or anyone that has ever visited this site knows, but we can pretend

Read around on the internet, he never had an autopsy and was creamated the next day, I know what I'm talking about. Read before you start disbelieving

Do you believe everything you believe on the internet? I wont buy any of the CDs that came out after his death, Pac did his best **** on All Eyez on Me and Machaveli. I dont know why people get all hung up in the conspiracys and what not, it seems pretty simple to me. He beats up gangmember in casino, gang member gets friends, friends kill 2pac...

yea his best albulm is before his death... me against the world.. all eyes on me... are my fave... if you really listen to some of the pac songs... he always have talk about his death

Read around on the internet, he never had an autopsy and was creamated the next day, I know what I'm talking about. Read before you start disbelieving

You know what you're talking about because you read it in the internet???

Wake up call: internet stories might or can be bull****... What??!! Yes it's true, it's true.

Your first post about this Tupac being alive non-sense was based on urban legends and lies. Read my previous response, tupac renamed himself after Niccolo Macchiaveli not "Don Makaveli" like your "sources" say. Macchiaveli never faked his own dead.

Don't believe everything you read on the internet, son.

It Tupac was still alive, I'll tell you where he'd be....


Hanging around with other washed-up rappers like Coolio, Chuck D., Das-EFX, Warren G., etc.
The hip-hop world has virtually no attention span, & rappers are "played out" very quickly.

Tupac's death is easily the best thing that ever happened to his career, & his legacy.

You conspracy theorists wonder how he has had so many recordings since his death ?
Don't you think Tupac dropped 100's of raps that were never put on albums, back when he was always in the studio ?
Of course he did.....& a lot of it was recorded. It's so damn easy to create beats/music to those lyrics.

Pac and Biggie share a house on a deserted island in the middle of the Pasific, I hear Biggie is the *****...

The thought of Biggie being the ***** made me puke in my mouth, just a little bit.

It Tupac was still alive, I'll tell you where he'd be....


Hanging around with other washed-up rappers like Coolio, Chuck D., Das-EFX, Warren G., etc.
The hip-hop world has virtually no attention span, & rappers are "played out" very quickly.

Tupac's death is easily the best thing that ever happened to his career, & his legacy.

You conspracy theorists wonder how he has had so many recordings since his death ?
Don't you think Tupac dropped 100's of raps that were never put on albums, back when he was always in the studio ?
Of course he did.....& a lot of it was recorded. It's so damn easy to create beats/music to those lyrics.

Music in general has a short attention span. Keep in mind all the boy bands, The Spice Girls, Creed and all their copycats, all came AFTER Pac's death.

Also here's a short list of rappers who enjoyed successful singles/albums in 1994-96; the last two years of 2Pac's life, who have also enjoyed similar success within the last two years

LL Cool J, The Beastie Boys, Busta Rhymes, Westside Connection, Outkast, Nas, Snoop Dogg, Redman

To think that 2Pac couldn't duplicate what these artists have achieved is rather naive, considering at the time of his death, he was bigger than all these artists.

...........

The thought of Biggie being the ***** made me puke in my mouth, just a little bit.

Was it because you got a visual or was it because you favor Biggie?

Was it because you got a visual or was it because you favor Biggie?
holy ****...where do you guys come from.

you turn up with a LUDICROUS amount of posts :rolleyes: and
....well thats it haha.

yep i favor pac and unfortunately got the visual.

still, once youve seen Goatse youve can handle anything :D

This mofo sure's good looking

http://usuarios.lycos.es/carvajalfelipe/hpbimg/biggie.jpg

Anybody remember that interview he did after Pac died, when he was layin in bed sayin he was scared and all that, his eye was wondering all over the ****in place. That **** cracked me up....

yea parts of it was in that one music video...

Biggie's baby mama looks kind of like him...the one he was with before Faith and Kim...

I'm a big fan of Tupac and I have read alot into his death and the fact that it could have been faked due to alot of supporting facts. I wanted to bring the subject up and hear everyones opinions on it, do you think Tupac is still alive and why, or do you think he is dead? I have TONS of facts I could list here but it would take some time..I'll list a few to start it off.

1.) Tupac studied and read the books of Don Makaveli while he was in prison, Makaveli was known for faking his death and doing things to escape from his enemies. Tupac read and studied him alot and even changed his name from tupac to makaveli.

2.) The video "I Ain't Mad At Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I Ain't Mad At Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyez On Me. The video shows 2Pac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend; very similar to the real situation. After his video death, his next song was not by tupac, but by Makaveli, it was titled "toss it up". In his one record insert it said EXIT TUPAC, ENTER MAKAVELI

3.) Tupac was shot on September 7th, he lived 7 days and died at 4:03, 4+3=7. 12 bullets were shot at him, only 5 hit him, leaving 7 that didn't

4.) 2Pac's first release on Suge Knight's Death Row label, All Eyez On Me, was released on February 13, 1996 - exactly seven months before his death.

5.) A voice on the album says, "And if the Lord returns in the coming seven days, then we'll see ya next time."

6.) 2Pac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He claims his head was "grazed" by a bullet.. Why did 2Pac get hit all those times and not Suge? And why is there no medical documents to prove Suge's injury?

7.)In the video of the song "Smile" by Scarface and 2Pac, many say the reason why "2Pac" never looks at the camera is because it’s a look-alike. Also the video shows a car just like the one 2Pac got shot in… and the car has bullet holes in it.

I also heard in one video, the clock on the wall reads 4:03, and all the numbers on the clock are 7's. The menu he is reading from, all the L's are upside down 7's, strange. Feel free to add more facts to the thread.

and in that car in the "smile" video, there are 7 shots when they are taking the pictures and you are write about it looking like a double, I just saw the vid again since it first came out and 2pac has a load of tatts, and the guy in the vid doesnt have them. look at the close up when he is hanging in a cross like shape

http://www.undercover.com.au/pics/2pac.jpg

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During an interview, an ABC correspondent asked Suge Knight, "If you knew who killed Tupac, would you tell the police?". Suge answered, "Absolutely not."


I have heard there is a "new" artist called "Blac Haze". The song that I have heard by them is called "Let Me Holla At Cha". A clip can be downloaded here from the site Exit-2 pac-Enter-Makaveli. The rapper sounds like Tupac, at least to me. Check it out for yourself.



Hell yeah man, that dude Blac Haze sounds a lot like pac, even shouts thug life in on of the songs, a lot of blac haze stuff was put on mixed tapes of tupac, but maybe 2pac is blac haze

why did all of blac haze stuff come out after tupac's death in 1997, nothing before then?

Hell yeah man, that dude Blac Haze sounds a lot like pac, even shouts thug life in on of the songs, a lot of blac haze stuff was put on mixed tapes of tupac, but maybe 2pac is blac haze

why did all of blac haze stuff come out after tupac's death in 1997, nothing before then?

cause he was trying to ride some coat tails.... no one heard guerilla black when he was big sizzle or whateverthe**** his name was before.

Hell yeah man, that dude Blac Haze sounds a lot like pac, even shouts thug life in on of the songs, a lot of blac haze stuff was put on mixed tapes of tupac, but maybe 2pac is blac haze

why did all of blac haze stuff come out after tupac's death in 1997, nothing before then?

I've been reading a lot about this theory, and I'm starting to seriously buy into it.

I've been reading a lot about this theory, and I'm starting to seriously buy into it.

hey man, did you hear about that Jay song, where if you play it backwards it says "six six six murder murder Jesus"

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but on the real, there was no blac haze before tupac was killed

Sorry but the people who buy into this are almost as bad as the people who buy into the 9/11 conspiracies because some dude on the internet told them so.

Wasn't 2Pac supposed to 'ressurect' in 2003 anyway? Imbeciles.

And that Jay song is from an album called The Grey Album by MF Doom...nothing to do with Jay really.

Sorry but the people who buy into this are almost as bad as the people who buy into the 9/11 conspiracies because some dude on the internet told them so.

Wasn't 2Pac supposed to 'ressurect' in 2003 anyway? Imbeciles.

And that Jay song is from an album called The Grey Album by MF Doom...nothing to do with Jay really.

wasnt it dangermouse on the grey album? that **** was added in though...

wasnt it dangermouse on the grey album? that **** was added in though...

It was one of those retards...

And whichever retard it was they just took some of Jay's lyrics from songs to form those certain words...nothing to do with Jay or anything.

It was one of those retards...

And whichever retard it was they just took some of Jay's lyrics from songs to form those certain words...nothing to do with Jay or anything.

your a poo head.

your a poo head.

does your chain hang low can you tie it in a bow?

does your chain hang low can you tie it in a bow?

chicks are for phags..

chicks are for phags..

i'll take you to the candy shop...

i'll take you to the candy shop...

your a window shopper.....

your a window shopper.....

What Can I do? To make it better....

What Can I do? To make it better....

rub my tummy with vaseline....

rub my tummy with vaseline....

Even though the sun is shining, theres a cloud in the sky. Letting me know, that at any moment there can be rain, as beautiful as life is there still can be pain.

Even though the sun is shining, theres a cloud in the sky. Letting me know, that at any moment there can be rain, as beautiful as life is there still can be pain.

Red dot plots, murder schemes, thirty-two shotguns
Regulate wit my Dunn's, 17 rocks gleam from one ring
Yo let me let y'all *****z know one thing
There's one life, one love, so there can only be one King

Red dot plots, murder schemes, thirty-two shotguns
Regulate wit my Dunn's, 17 rocks gleam from one ring
Yo let me let y'all *****z know one thing
There's one life, one love, so there can only be one King

Fake thug, no love, you get the slug, CB4 Gusto
Your luck low, I didn't know til I was drunk though
You freak *****z played out, get ****ed and ate out
Prostitute turned *****, I got the gauge out
96 ways I made out, Montana way
The Good-F-E-L-L-A, verbal AK spray

...****in punk. And, for you...
Mercury raps is roughed then God just shown like taps
Red and white Wally's that match, bend my baseball hat
Doin forever ****, like pissin out the window on turnpikes
Robbin *****z for leathers, high swipin on dirt bikes
Voice be metal like Von Harper radio bubble
Murder sleep away camp, the fly lady champ

Yo, check these up top murderous
Snowy in the bezzle as the cloud merges
F.B.I. try and want word with this
Kid who punked out bust a shot uip in the becon
Catch me in the corner not speakin
Crushed out heavenly, U.G. rock the sweet daddy long fox minks
Chicken and brocolli, Wally's look stinky
With his man straight from Raleigh Durham, he recognized Kojak
I slapped him five, Masta Killa cracked his tiny form
E'rybody break bread, huddle around
Guzzle that, I'm about to throw a hand in your bag
Since the face been revealed, game got real
Radio been gassin *****z, my imposters scream they ill
I'm the inventor, '86 rhymin at the center
Debut '93 LP told you to Enter
Punk ***got *****z stealin my light
Crawl up in the bed with grandma,
beneath the La-Z-Boy where ya hid ya knife
Ghost is back, stretch Cadillacs, fruit ****tails
Hit the shells at Paul's Pastry Rack
Walk with me like Darthy tried to judge these
plush degrees, said the cow, wrap the fees
Gettin waxed all through the drive-thru
Take the stand, throw my hand all on the Bible
and tell lies too, I'm the ultimate
splash the Wolverine Razor Sharp ring, dolomite
student in role holdin it

Yo, check these up top murderous
Snowy in the bezzle as the cloud merges
F.B.I. try and want word with this
Kid who punked out bust a shot uip in the becon
Catch me in the corner not speakin
Crushed out heavenly, U.G. rock the sweet daddy long fox minks
Chicken and brocolli, Wally's look stinky
With his man straight from Raleigh Durham, he recognized Kojak
I slapped him five, Masta Killa cracked his tiny form
E'rybody break bread, huddle around
Guzzle that, I'm about to throw a hand in your bag
Since the face been revealed, game got real
Radio been gassin *****z, my imposters scream they ill
I'm the inventor, '86 rhymin at the center
Debut '93 LP told you to Enter
Punk ***got *****z stealin my light
Crawl up in the bed with grandma,
beneath the La-Z-Boy where ya hid ya knife
Ghost is back, stretch Cadillacs, fruit ****tails
Hit the shells at Paul's Pastry Rack
Walk with me like Darthy tried to judge these
plush degrees, said the cow, wrap the fees
Gettin waxed all through the drive-thru
Take the stand, throw my hand all on the Bible
and tell lies too, I'm the ultimate
splash the Wolverine Razor Sharp ring, dolomite
student in role holdin it

i only **** with you on two occasions
when im drunk and im high
i would be broke if i could be wit u
that is why its for one night, for one night.

im a mother****in gang bangin nightmare
wake up mother****ers?
i traded in my white nike airs
for a white pair of converse
***** lets bomb first

...that ****s on any ghostface :)

Smokin you a wig.

I respect all musicians but rappers couldn't hold a candle to my smooth crooning style.

7 DAY theory? I am not sure what that entails, but rest assured I could probably have done it in a single afternoon and with twice the fanfare.

If you think Pac is alive your RETARDED!

If pac did fake his death its because hes a ***** then and rated someone out so hes in a witness protection program of some sort....any way pacs the biggest over rated rapper ever. some of his lyrics are ****ing stupid, plus he was a fake gangsta until the time that death row scooped him up. No criminal record prior to that, even I have a record and I'm not a gangsta!

If pac did fake his death its because hes a ***** then and rated someone out so hes in a witness protection program of some sort....any way pacs the biggest over rated rapper ever. some of his lyrics are ****ing stupid, plus he was a fake gangsta until the time that death row scooped him up. No criminal record prior to that, even I have a record and I'm not a gangsta!

He had major beef with a big time drug lord for years. Can't remember his name but this guy was who the cops felt really had set him up to be shot the first time .

Sure, Tupac's alive and hanging out with Biggie Smalls, Amelia Earhardt, Jimmy Hoffa, and Elvis. In fact, I heard the he, Biggie, and Elvis are about the record some "previously unreleased material" just in time for Christmas, to be followed by apperances in the soon to be released "Eddie and the Cruisers III".

:D

He had major beef with a big time drug lord for years. Can't remember his name but this guy was who the cops felt really had set him up to be shot the first time .
Yeah he got shot of the corner of Kovalt Ln and Flamingo a block or two off the strip here in Vegas. Truth is no one around that area at the time was gonna say nothing about the shooting, theres alot of wierd **** involved only because at that time you could pay of the cops real easy here....you pretty much still can if you have bank. I think Shug Knight had him killed after all Knight did go to UNLV and played football there and knew alot of people here had connects in Las Vegas.

2pac is chillin in Cuba...btw didn't his mom did the same when she was young?wtf? in cuba? :rofl:...

all i know is that his aunt is refuged in cuba, because she and others killed a cop in the late 70's , she was wanted by the FBI so she went to cuba, don't know if she's still there.

Its obvious hes still alive.

Its obvious hes still alive.some say he's in jamaican selling biggie t-shirts :lol1:

Hes probably in Dominican Republic, or Hawaii, or one of those island **** things.

lol nothings obvious.

Hes dead.

well just have to wait till 07/07/07 n c if he does come back n if hes doesnt this therory is a load of rubish

He ain't coming back sadly. No rapper today could touch 2Pac overall. If he was alive today he wouldn't need to come back he's rich.

well just have to wait till 07/07/07 n c if he does come back n if hes doesnt this therory is a load of rubishthats true....

If 2 Pac is alive, I wish he would come back. He's a billion times better then these new rappers.


But I think Pac is dead sadly.

I guess he aint comin back :(

r.i.p. 12 years

I guess he aint comin back :(

he did but then I shot him.

I'm a big fan of Tupac and I have read alot into his death and the fact that it could have been faked due to alot of supporting facts. I wanted to bring the subject up and hear everyones opinions on it, do you think Tupac is still alive and why, or do you think he is dead? I have TONS of facts I could list here but it would take some time..I'll list a few to start it off.

1.) Tupac studied and read the books of Don Makaveli while he was in prison, Makaveli was known for faking his death and doing things to escape from his enemies. Tupac read and studied him alot and even changed his name from tupac to makaveli.

2.) The video "I Ain't Mad At Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I Ain't Mad At Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyez On Me. The video shows 2Pac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend; very similar to the real situation. After his video death, his next song was not by tupac, but by Makaveli, it was titled "toss it up". In his one record insert it said EXIT TUPAC, ENTER MAKAVELI

3.) Tupac was shot on September 7th, he lived 7 days and died at 4:03, 4+3=7. 12 bullets were shot at him, only 5 hit him, leaving 7 that didn't

4.) 2Pac's first release on Suge Knight's Death Row label, All Eyez On Me, was released on February 13, 1996 - exactly seven months before his death.

5.) A voice on the album says, "And if the Lord returns in the coming seven days, then we'll see ya next time."

6.) 2Pac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He claims his head was "grazed" by a bullet.. Why did 2Pac get hit all those times and not Suge? And why is there no medical documents to prove Suge's injury?

7.)In the video of the song "Smile" by Scarface and 2Pac, many say the reason why "2Pac" never looks at the camera is because it’s a look-alike. Also the video shows a car just like the one 2Pac got shot in… and the car has bullet holes in it.

I also heard in one video, the clock on the wall reads 4:03, and all the numbers on the clock are 7's. The menu he is reading from, all the L's are upside down 7's, strange. Feel free to add more facts to the thread.

It is interesting, but unfortunately I think he is dead, and if he wasnt he probably would have killed himself by now watching how crappy rap has become.