I know there are basicly 3 groups. People that know about it and like it, people that know about it and dislike it, and thoses that have no idea what I am talking about.

Where do you fit?

I know there are basicly 3 groups. People that know about it and like it, people that know about it and dislike it, and thoses that have no idea what I am talking about.

Where do you fit?

how about the people who like but dont know much of it ...

Randy "The Natural" Couture #1 P4P

Actually, there are a couple of other people that could challenge for that title. Mainly B.J Penn and Fedor Emelianenko. Randy is still a great choice for p4p though.

I like both boxing and MMA. Randy Couture and BJ Penn are my favorite MMA fighters. BJ Penn's one round destruction of Matt Hughes is a classic.

bj penn has a nice leaping left hook

martial arts are gay. all you people like to do is watch half naked men fight and grapple each other.

Penn is a very dangerous man because he has great hands and is a wizard on the ground. However, he sometimes gets burnt out and doesn't train like he should. He might be too good for his own good.

Thats what happend to Hughes actually. He walked threw everyone and took B.J really lightly (it was Penns first fight at 170) and he got owned. A re-match would be interesting.

Penn is a very dangerous man because he has great hands and is a wizard on the ground. However, he sometimes gets burnt out and doesn't train like he should. He might be too good for his own good.

Thats what happend to Hughes actually. He walked threw everyone and took B.J really lightly (it was Penns first fight at 170) and he got owned. A re-match would be interesting.




Yeah a rematch would be awesome...I still think Penn would own Hughes again in my opinion...I also like when Penn knocked the **** out of Caol Uno in like 20 seconds-that was a devestating combo...Uno looked like a rag doll getting hit with free shots.

Yeah, that was a great knockout. Uno was out after that first shot and the Penn just blitzed him. However, in the re-match Uno looked a lot better and the fight ended in a draw, although Penn should of won 48-47 according to most people watching the fight. That includes me.

Hughes and Penn are just as talented, but have very different skill sets. Penn with his speed and jiu jitsu, Hughes with his power and wrestling. They will fight again one day. As soon as B.J Penn and Dana White kiss and make up.

That's a classic too in your avatar when Lidell knocked the hell out of Ortiz...a true vulgar display of ultra violence.

I dig it! :cool:

I saw it recently too, it was sorta sad. Ortiz stood toe to toe but never really did anything attack wise. Then when he was attacked he just covered up. Ive only seen a couple fights but it seems whoever attacks first usually wins...

Konstantin, Ortiz was scared of Liddel. They used to be training partners and one day during training Liddel dropped Ortiz with a liver shot. After that Ortiz has always had it in the back of his mind. Ortiz was scared to let something go for fear of getting blasted again.

Its really a shame too. Ortiz has excellent skills. He trains with Ferando Vargas sometimes and he hits like a truck, espically on the ground. He is the phyiscaly strongest fighter at 205 and he and Couture have cardio that puts everyone else to shame. Ortiz just isn't as good as Randy and he is afraid of Chuck.

For me its

1. Boxing
2. Basketball
3. MMA

Too much hugging for me. If I wanted to watch hugging I would just beg for more Ruiz fights.

done like it at all

i like watching mma but i dont really follow it. the last fight i seen was with some dude named cro-cop? i dont if that is mma or k1 or whatever but he knocked the guy out.

I like it except when fighters go to the ground and do more wrestling than actual fighting. I dig it when they go brawling at each other while on their feet.

Yeah a rematch would be awesome...I still think Penn would own Hughes again in my opinion...I also like when Penn knocked the **** out of Caol Uno in like 20 seconds-that was a devestating combo...Uno looked like a rag doll getting hit with free shots.I think Hughes will get him if they meet again but probably not easily. He's strong as a mule and pretty well versed on the ground despite his showing in the first fight. He's got alot of pride and I'm betting he shows it next time.

Liddell looks like he's a trailer park tough guy or something.

lol I only think that because of his hair, hes probably like from a rich family who knows

I love MMA just as much as I love boxing. However I know slightly more about boxing than I do MMA. Welcome to Boxing Scene MMA members.

I love MMA just as much as I love boxing. However I know slightly more about boxing than I do MMA. Welcome to Boxing Scene MMA members.Thanks yo. My answer is basically the same as yours. I, like most was introduced to MMA after boxing due to the relative ages of the two but I like em both. I like seein beatings ... especially if I ain't the one getting beat up!

i love mma... i'm actually training for those kinda stuff now... i already did muay thai and boxing... juss wanna do something new... and who will win the rematch... chuck.. or... randy...

I love mma and boxing both, but I'd have to say that after the way decisions in boxing became so apparently currupt on such an obvious and grand scale I like mma a bit more than boxing now. I hate it when a big time boxing match goes to the scorecards anymore, because it seems that no matter who the fighters or the judges are the decisions are suspect.

As far as Matt Hughes and Bj Penn go they will probably never have a chance to rematch after the falling out Bj had with Zuffa:mad:, But if they do get to fight again I'd have to go with Hughes by split dec.(I actually thought Matt lost when he fought Charuto,)(Penn's trainer)

Tito was a good, and I stress the word good, not great champion while he held the title. But I just haven't seen him get any better in the last 3 years, he has imo actually become one of if not the most boring fighters in the UFC, and if him and Chuck go again look for the same result to happen only sooner!

Chuck and Randy II will be a real good fight to judge exactly how much better the Iceman has gotten, since there first fight he has been on an impressive roll imo, but so has Randy. That frikin dude has to be imo the most phenomenal athlete that there has ever been in combat sports. I keep waiting for him to show the signs of being the fighter that got old overnight as they say, but **** he just keeps getting better. In this fight I'm gonna go with Randy by UD

I like K1, especially on those rare times elbows are allowed. I can't stand it when it goes to ground and all they're doing is having some loving :D

Lol :D

Actually, I don't think K-1 ever allows elbows. Muay thai on the other hand, you see elbows all the time there. Eblows, knees in the clinch......its pretty burtal stuff.

I haven't seen too much MMA; mainly just what I've downloaded on this site.

I see people talking about K-1 and UFC; I ordered a DVD for 2 bucks of the IFC - a disc called Caged Combat but I haven't watched it yet.

Where does that fed rank amongst the others?

The IFC is a smaller orginzation, but they have given a lot of good fighters a start in thier career. Some good fights too. You will find there are more burtal beatings in these smaller shows because they still aren't sure who has the goods yet. The IFC DVD is definitly worth a watch.

MMA is cool. I've only seen a few events but they were very entertaining. I agree though that if they spend too much time grapling for position it gets tiresome. I've also seen K-1 and liked that as well. I guess I'm trying to avoid watching another sport where you have to pay to watch on top of Cable prices.

Actually, I don't think K-1 ever allows elbows. Muay thai on the other hand, you see elbows all the time there. Eblows, knees in the clinch......its pretty burtal stuff.

To be honest I only get Eurosport and it's either billed as K1 or Fight Club, which covers a multitude of sins. When the annoying commentator, Will Vanders, gets rambling on I tend to switch off. Although I'm certain I saw Ignashov on there giving it some elbow to someone :D

Lol :D

I'm striclty into boxing, I really don't care for MMA truthfully

i have friends that love mma but i dont follow it at all and they could care less about boxing. im with atwa, im just a boxing guy

Boxing fo sho. MMA deosn't really appeal to me as much. I tried watching a couple, they were pretty intense but there's a lot of takedowns and pinning positions, I didn't find it that exciting.

yeah, when someone trains in grappling and groundfighting, thats pretty much 1v1 training. i prefer boxing because with the true striking training in boxing you are more prepared to fight multiple people

I find it a bit boring, its like watching a John Ruiz who kicks and is allowed to hug on the floor.

No offence to the MMA guys but IMO boxings a superior combat sport.

john ruiz would mop the floor with any MMA fighter :p

john ruiz would mop the floor with any MMA fighter :p

John Ruiz IS a MMA fighter. Why do they let him do boxing?

MMA is something i'm learning to get into. Obviously, I prefer traditional boxing, but MMA is a nice change of pace.

They have started to show MMA on one of my HD channels so I watch it when I can.

What I will say is that it is more exciting to see that almost every fight has a conclusion, not a judge's decision. Most of the fights don't go the first 5 minutes. But because of that, you get guys that lost that are fired up becuase they had to tap out after 1 minute and they are all pissed off.

There is also more parity which makes for more interesting matchups. You don't have fighters that are 30-0 going against someone that is 10-10 to build their records.

I also don't understand why, but it seems like there are a lot of boxing type knockouts. Is it because they wear smaller gloves or is it because the ref stops the fight if a fighter gets knocked down because the other fighter will pummel him on the ground if the ref doesn't stop it.

What I don't like is the fact that if you want to be current in the sport you have to watch PPVs every month.

John Ruiz IS a MMA fighter. Why do they let him do boxing?

Nah he is more like wrestler.

I like boxing and k1

I find it a bit boring, its like watching a John Ruiz who kicks and is allowed to hug on the floor.

No offence to the MMA guys but IMO boxings a superior combat sport.

Actually, thats something I really have to disagree with you on. Not enjoying the ground fighting in MMA is something totally different than calling boxing a superior sport however. Its like comparing apples with apple sauce.

They are the same, but different. A lot of people follow combat sports because they enjoy tough phyiscal sports. Some people follow boxing because they enjoy the sweet science and couldn't careless about takedowns and legal clinch work. So you don't have to enjoy MMA, but saying boxing is superior is kind of silly. They are different animals.

martial arts are gay. all you people like to do is watch half naked men fight and grapple each other.

Martial arts shouldn't be confused with what you see in contests like the Ultimate Fighting Challenge. Although many fighters with many different styles do compete, I don't feel that this tournament is a proper representation of what Martial arts is about, and very few fighting styles that originated in Asia focus on grappling.

Actually, thats not true at all. Judo, Jiu jitsu, Akido, and several other styles are grappling based. A lot of the striking styles were developed to meet a specific challenge at the time. Tai Kawn Do, for example, was designed to kick a mounted rider off his horse.

And the Ultimate Fighting Championship is a true example of what works in martial arts. Look at the styles the dominate. Muay thai, boxing, wrestling and jiu jitsu. Thoses are the 4 that will actually help you out in a fight.

Actually, thats something I really have to disagree with you on. Not enjoying the ground fighting in MMA is something totally different than calling boxing a superior sport however. Its like comparing apples with apple sauce.

They are the same, but different. A lot of people follow combat sports because they enjoy tough phyiscal sports. Some people follow boxing because they enjoy the sweet science and couldn't careless about takedowns and legal clinch work. So you don't have to enjoy MMA, but saying boxing is superior is kind of silly. They are different animals.



Boxing is funner to watch than MMA a lot of times because it's just all punching. I think that's what he meant by it being a superior SPORT...BUT as far as effectiveness on the street MMA is more effective. A dude won't be able to punch you after you snap both of his arms. :D

Nothing beats an awesome KO in Boxing
I don't care if you like Boxing or not
Seeing somebody take a right hook that sends them to the floor
Is one of the most exciting things you can watch

Agreed. If you like KOs, watch MMA. You will see more of them. I promise you that.

Nothing beats an awesome KO in Boxing
I don't care if you like Boxing or not
Seeing somebody take a right hook that sends them to the floor
Is one of the most exciting things you can watch
while that is absolutely true, the same can be said for alot of mma ko's. A couple of examples are, 1)Tank Abott's ko on Steve Nelmark, that **** looked like it killed him! 2)Mirko CroCop's ko on Igor Vovchenchyn(sp) left high kick to the dome and dude looked scrambled!:eek:

Actually, thats not true at all. Judo, Jiu jitsu, Akido, and several other styles are grappling based. A lot of the striking styles were developed to meet a specific challenge at the time. Tai Kawn Do, for example, was designed to kick a mounted rider off his horse.

And the Ultimate Fighting Championship is a true example of what works in martial arts. Look at the styles the dominate. Muay thai, boxing, wrestling and jiu jitsu. Thoses are the 4 that will actually help you out in a fight.


I guess I stand corrected, I knew those styles were grappling based, I just kind of assumed that those styles represented a small percentage of the total number of styles ever created. Sorry if I misinformed anyone.

You weren't wrong in the fact that the majority of martial arts are striking based, however only of few of thoses are actually practical styles that teach you anything useful. A much higher percentage of grappling styles are legitimate. Out of all the striking styles you basicly have boxing and muay thai that are top level. Some forms of karate aren't bad, but muay thai and boxing are the best by far. In grappling, there is judo, jiu jitsu wrestling and Sambo.

Then there are things like Karv Maga and Jeet Kun Do (what Bruce Lee taught) that arent styles but just basicly taking what works from other styles and using them.

In a technical sense boxing is a martial art. Any system of unarmed combat is a martial art really.