Mr. Violence
02-13-2005, 10:58 AM
In this upcoming rematch who do you want to win Chuck Lidell or Randy Couture? Also why do you want that person to win? Vote and give your opinions.
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View Full Version : Who Do You Want To Win?: Couture or Lidell? Mr. Violence 02-13-2005, 10:58 AM In this upcoming rematch who do you want to win Chuck Lidell or Randy Couture? Also why do you want that person to win? Vote and give your opinions. Cesaro 02-13-2005, 12:46 PM randy he's a much better fighter and champion. HockeyFighter 02-13-2005, 02:25 PM Randy because he's not a trailer park piece of trash with a mohawk and a brother name sean who might be the worst fighter ever. Sir_Jose 02-13-2005, 04:00 PM No love for the last Mochican. Randy is gonna work him with ease. Purity 02-13-2005, 04:25 PM chuck. i think he underestimated randy last time and i just don't see him making the same mistake again. not to take anything away from randy though. but randy's already accomplished everything possible there is to accomplish in cage fighting. there's nothing left! chuck needs that title IMO. he's paid his dues and i think it's his turn. this fight will be randy's toughest fight and probably the best LHW title bout in years for UFC. chuck will come back strong and randy knows it. GeNeRaL 02-13-2005, 04:53 PM i somewhat agree with purity. I just think chuck is the clear underdog here and for chuck to win would be bigger news and more exciting. Unfortunately, though, i just dont think he can beat Randy. Sir_Jose 02-13-2005, 05:04 PM I dont buy that. I dont get how in the biggest and most important fight of your life you want to come in underestimating the guy especially when your fighting Randy and you know he's gonna bring everything he has. I dont think Chuck is as good as Randy plain and simple. Randy out struck him and had his way with him on the ground. Purity 02-13-2005, 05:53 PM I dont buy that. I dont get how in the biggest and most important fight of your life you want to come in underestimating the guy especially when your fighting Randy and you know he's gonna bring everything he has. I dont think Chuck is as good as Randy plain and simple. Randy out struck him and had his way with him on the ground. that wasn't chuck's most important fight. he's had plenty of others. remember too that back then, randy wasn't as much of a threat as he is now. he'd just moved to LHW and nobody real knew what would happen. chuck's ran through plenty of opponents that nobody thought he'd be able to phase. warped 02-13-2005, 08:31 PM Chuck has a chin of steel and heavy hands but Randy's ground game is close to unstoppable. Last time Chuck looked out of sorts and Randy was surprisingly winning the stand up but this time Chuck will come much better prepared. His efforts will ultimately be stifled by the G&P master, though. Randy by Ref Stoppage due to G&P massacre in Round 2. Purity 02-13-2005, 08:51 PM chuck's sprawl has always made most of his opponents play his game. hopefully he's in the process of mastering it right now. Fallout 02-13-2005, 09:34 PM Chuck might have a good sprawl, but its tough to sprawl against double underhooks. Randy is incredible, espically when he doesn't have to worry about stronger heavier opponets. He threw Ricco Rodriguiez around like a rag doll for two rounds until Ricco was able to get on top and use his huge size advantage. Ricco is a great wrestler and a former ADCC champion and Randy totally out grappled him for the first half of the fight. Mo Smith couldn't knock Randy out, Pedro Rizzo couldn't knock him out, and Chuck didn't even get close the first time. Randy should win again, but it might take him a little bit longer. Randy by 4th round stoppage. That being said, I want Chuck to win. Just because Randy isn't getting any younger and I don't want another vacant title. Plus Chuck has a much more exciting style and he would be a good face to market to the fans. julDilla 02-13-2005, 10:45 PM Randy !!!! .... Sir_Jose 02-14-2005, 12:08 AM that wasn't chuck's most important fight. he's had plenty of others. remember too that back then, randy wasn't as much of a threat as he is now. he'd just moved to LHW and nobody real knew what would happen. chuck's ran through plenty of opponents that nobody thought he'd be able to phase. Ok true it might not have been his "most important", but it was still a very important fight in his career. If he did underestimate Randy thats his fault. As a profesional fighter its his job to come it at 100% and if he didn't then thats on him and he has no one else to blame. I see no reason to think the rematch will be any different. Cesaro 02-14-2005, 03:13 AM It will go exactly the same way as before. Chuck doesn't have anything new in his arsenal, just the same two punches as before. Punch #1, the "Rainbow Right": This is a casual overhand right that starts it's ascent by the hip, reaches it's peek somewhere above the head, then comes down usually landing somehow behind the opponent's left shoulder. Punch #2, the "Liddell Looper": Don't confuse this with the Rainbow Right, because they look a lot alike. This one is usually thrown with every ounce of power he could possibly conjure and tends to be extremely slow and predictable. His eyes are usually closed and his head turned the opposite way of where it's supposed to land. It usually comes after he has received a thorough beating and has gassed, reference his match against Alistair Overeem for an example. Round 1: They square off in the center and Randy throws a couple jabs that connect. Chuck remains stationary and throws his classic Rainbow Right and it misses. Chuck receives more jabs to the face and a few uppercuts as well. Chuck remains stationary and throws his classic Rainbow Right and it misses. Chuck receives more jabs to the face and a few uppercuts as well. Chuck remains stationary and throws his classic Rainbow Right and it misses. Chuck receives more jabs to the face and a few uppercuts as well. Bell Rings. Round 2: Chuck decides to go for broke since he has nearly gassed and decides to ship out the Liddell Looper. Randy leaves the ring, goes to a nearby computer to enter the tracking number for the punch, sees that it's arrival date is expected to be in 2-3 weeks and therefore successully avoids it. Randy lights up his face with a few more punches then gets the takedown and pounds him to a referee stoppage in this round or the next. THRILLAinmanila 02-14-2005, 03:24 AM I like Randy. He's a cool cat for me xrhythmxnxbluesx 02-14-2005, 03:51 AM taken chuck on this one... VulgarTheClown 02-14-2005, 10:35 AM Randy. 100%. Chuck has nothign to bring him. Randy is too dominant. I'm willing to say that Randy will hold the title till he retires. As for Chucks sprawl controlling the pace of the takedownsand thus the fight, thats crap. Randy's takedowns are primarily Greco which means sprawl = crap. Randy by DOMINANACE Mr. Beelzebub 02-14-2005, 10:49 AM No one deserves to get a belt more the Liddell. But I think this fight might look just like the first time around. I will be rooting for Chuck, though. mmafanman 02-14-2005, 02:38 PM Man, no ****ing way does Liddell beat Captain America. Couture is going to work Liddell's ass again. It may take a bit longer this time around, but Couture will come out on top once again. Tha Playa 02-14-2005, 03:12 PM I'm pulling for Chuck but Randy's gonna beat him again. Cesaro 02-14-2005, 05:45 PM Chuck is a poor man's CroCop. kaps 02-15-2005, 02:28 AM Im picking Randy, Chuck probably cried after Randy beat Tito, because he knew he would have to fight Randy again. Chucks sprawl is great, but its not good enough to stop Couture from taking him down. Couture will throw punches to get in close, clinch, takedown. Chuck looks lost everytime he's on the ground, look at there first fight, or his fight with Rampage. Randy Couture by TKO round 3... Bluecifer 02-17-2005, 02:55 PM chuck. i think he underestimated randy last time and i just don't see him making the same mistake again. not to take anything away from randy though. but randy's already accomplished everything possible there is to accomplish in cage fighting. there's nothing left! chuck needs that title IMO. he's paid his dues and i think it's his turn. this fight will be randy's toughest fight and probably the best LHW title bout in years for UFC. chuck will come back strong and randy knows it. I agree with Purity. I mean, I like Chuck alot and am really pulling for him, no one deserves that belt more than Chuck. I like Randy too, both are great guys, but like Purity said, Randy has accomplished all there is too accomplish in this sport, short of unifying the Pride & UFC titles, which won't happen until Randy is 55, if ever. Anyway, even though every time I pick against Randy he proves me wrong and I wouldn't be surprised if Randy out hussles Chuck again for another win, I'm gonna pick against him in this situation, partly because he's gotta get old sometime(unless my theory about him being a cyborg is correct) and partly just because I want to see Chuck holding that belt, he's fought everyone that's been put in front of him, never trash talking, never ducking anybody, and never complaining about money or other bull**** while patiently waiting long after his rightful title shot was way overdue. HockeyFighter 02-17-2005, 03:06 PM The Liddell Looper won't win this fight for Chucky. He'll go back to his trailer and cry on Sean's shoulder after it is over. Bluecifer 02-18-2005, 01:33 PM Liddel won't use looping shots in this fight, he's not gonna repeat the same mistakes he made the first time. He'll use straight punches like the ones he used to humiliate Tito. Even if Randy does win, it'll be a much better fight this time around. Also, Chuck just seems to fight better when he's the underdog, Randy being the favorite this time will work to his advantage. KingLiddell 03-19-2005, 05:51 PM I wouldn't really consider Chuck trailer trash since he does live in one of the nicest most expensive places to live in the entire country. FYI there are no trailer parks there. Anyways I saw Liddell thursday night at a WEC event at the local casino he's looking good. I truly believe it's his time to be champion and he will beat Randy. He knows what he's up against now and he won't be fooled again. kaps 03-21-2005, 08:09 PM Liddel won't use looping shots in this fight, he's not gonna repeat the same mistakes he made the first time. He'll use straight punches like the ones he used to humiliate Tito.. So he is going to poke Couture in the eye too? Fallout 03-21-2005, 08:28 PM Still sore about Tito losing to Chuck Kaps? kaps 03-21-2005, 08:38 PM Nah, I kinda seen it coming. He was gonna get koed sooner or later. The eye poke just hurried the process.... KingLiddell 03-22-2005, 03:38 PM Tito is a chump, his mouth is bigger than his fighting skills and that's why Chuck had to bust him up and remind him who the real fighter is.. kaps 03-22-2005, 06:32 PM http://bjj.org/susumu/ufc43-20030606/images/susumu19.jpg KingLiddell 03-24-2005, 11:41 AM We're talking about Mouth Ortiz my friend why not post one of him hitting Liddell, oh wait I forgot he never did hit him, he went to the ground bloody like a little *****........... :p VulgarTheClown 03-24-2005, 12:29 PM titowned!!!!! Curly 03-26-2005, 11:23 PM I'm not sure who Lidell is but I think Couture will beat Liddell Curly 03-26-2005, 11:26 PM http://www.cagewarriors.com/uploads/Wanderlei%20Silva%20(c)_02.jpg Curly 03-26-2005, 11:29 PM http://www.hyperfight.hpg.ig.com.br/Pride/Wanderlei_SilvaGP2003IIF.jpg http://sportsnavi.yahoo.co.jp/fight/pict/200303/16/030316_kak_pride_07_10_b.jpg http://bjj.org/susumu/prideGP-20031109/images/susumu03.jpg http://bjj.org/susumu/prideGP-20031109/images/susumu02.jpg Shaolin Bushido 03-26-2005, 11:33 PM I'm not sure who Lidell is but I think Couture will beat LiddellNo. Here's the logic to how that fight will go: Since Randy is acting so hypocritical, hypin that ****bird Leben like he's an angel and bringing him back despite getting his ass whooped fair and square and bagging on Koscheck and Southworth as if they are turds like Leben .... .... Chuck will KTFO Captain America. Simple. :cool: Curly 03-26-2005, 11:36 PM No. Here's the logic to how that fight will go: Since Randy is acting so hypocritical, hypin that ****bird Leben like he's an angel and bringing him back despite getting his ass whooped fair and square and bagging on Koscheck and Southworth as if they are turds like Leben .... .... Chuck will KTFO Captain America. Simple. Ahhh the old WWF logic, I get it now. BTW the new fans that came in from watching TUF are annoying as hell. Shaolin Bushido 03-26-2005, 11:40 PM Ahhh the old WWF logic, I get it now. BTW the new fans that came in from watching TUF are annoying as hell.HERETIC! :eek: |