Is Valuev as good as any of the two brothers?

nope......

No, he is now were near there skill level but staning at 7.2
and 320 pounds.
With 40 wins no losses and 30 by ko. I believe this man would be a test for anybody.

I think he is ranked nr 10 by the wba

nope......

hm depends which klitschko?

hm depends which klitschko?

Don't be stupid. Valuev = trash.

hm depends which klitschko?

I haven't seen Valuev fight yet, but if you're referring to Vlad....He's actually much more talented than his brother Vitali, and if he hadn't had his confidence blown out against Sanders, he'd be a major force to be reckoned with in the division today. His problem is that he's young, and wasn't ready for someone to attack him like Sanders did, and it ruined him, at least for now, and maybe even permanently. I hope that, after he gets a few more years on him, he'll mature mentally, regain his confidence, and be ready to make a big, sweeping comback. Only time will tell. But until (or unless) he gets his confidence back, he won't have a chin....a fighter might have confidence and no chin, but a fighter will never have a chin without self confidence.

wlad is an excellent fighter... his problem is just his chin. he can go 12 rounds.. he did it against byrd. vitali is good to

valuev = nothing
who has he fought that is a top 10????? NOBODY. give him a good fighter... and u c wat happens

To have him fight someone from top 10, someone from top 10 must agree to fight him. I don't think anyone from top 10 is willing to take a chance against a 7' 320 pounds behemoth, you never know. I've seen a few of Valuev's fights, he doesn't have a huge power but he throws a lot of punches and can do that for 12 rounds. He is also very hard to get to. Everyone is right on one thing , he needs to get in there with top 10 to test himself. By the way, I read that he only had something like 30 amat. fights before turning pro.

From what I've heard, he'll make some good money but will never be a big player in the division. Apparently he has a faulty chin which is the kiss of death for a heavyweight of that size. If you are a little agile guy with a great defense you can get by with a bum chin but when you have no mobility you're going to get tagged with a big shot eventually.

I haven't seen Valuev fight yet, but if you're referring to Vlad....He's actually much more talented than his brother Vitali, and if he hadn't had his confidence blown out against Sanders, he'd be a major force to be reckoned with in the division today. His problem is that he's young, and wasn't ready for someone to attack him like Sanders did, and it ruined him, at least for now, and maybe even permanently. I hope that, after he gets a few more years on him, he'll mature mentally, regain his confidence, and be ready to make a big, sweeping comback. Only time will tell. But until (or unless) he gets his confidence back, he won't have a chin....a fighter might have confidence and no chin, but a fighter will never have a chin without self confidence.
Thank you stickman. You know your stuff.

From what I've heard, he'll make some good money but will never be a big player in the division. Apparently he has a faulty chin which is the kiss of death for a heavyweight of that size. If you are a little agile guy with a great defense you can get by with a bum chin but when you have no mobility you're going to get tagged with a big shot eventually.

He has never been hit hard in the chin. And he has never been knocked down. He's tripped over his own feet a couple tiems though.

He still sucks though. The first time he fights someone he can't knock out, and thats anyone in the top 5 or 10, he will lose on points because he looks so bad in the ring.

Valuev is another Klitschko without the skills, power, or even speed.

Valuev is another Klitschko without the skills, power, or even speed.


Haha, that made me chuckle :D

I take it you mean to say that "Valuev is one big sum*****"
:D

I haven't seen Valuev fight yet, but if you're referring to Vlad....He's actually much more talented than his brother Vitali, and if he hadn't had his confidence blown out against Sanders, he'd be a major force to be reckoned with in the division today. His problem is that he's young, and wasn't ready for someone to attack him like Sanders did, and it ruined him, at least for now, and maybe even permanently. I hope that, after he gets a few more years on him, he'll mature mentally, regain his confidence, and be ready to make a big, sweeping comback. Only time will tell. But until (or unless) he gets his confidence back, he won't have a chin....a fighter might have confidence and no chin, but a fighter will never have a chin without self confidence.

He may be more athletic and offensively talented than his brother, but that's it. Vitali has the "right stuff" and a good chin. Vlad's chin and his heart was suspect ever since he was stopped by Ross Purrity. He would never be a major force because he doesn't have heart, which is worse than not having a chin. His defense sucks, too. He was able to mask everything with his spectacular offensive attack. Now he is exposed and a knockout waiting to happen. Right now he's nothing more than a live gatekeeper.

I think Wlad has more heart than people give him credit for. He wouldn't have beaten the count against Brewster, but he beat it against Purrity, and his corner stopped it, he was ready to continue. Against Sanders, he was knocked down what, like three or four times, and beat the count every time, but the ref stopped it, certainly a good stoppage. I think he'll end up being like a four or five time champ, because they'll keep giving him shots against guys he can beat, and someone else will keep taking it away from him lol

He may be more athletic and offensively talented than his brother, but that's it. Vitali has the "right stuff" and a good chin. Vlad's chin and his heart was suspect ever since he was stopped by Ross Purrity. He would never be a major force because he doesn't have heart, which is worse than not having a chin. His defense sucks, too. He was able to mask everything with his spectacular offensive attack. Now he is exposed and a knockout waiting to happen. Right now he's nothing more than a live gatekeeper.

Well, he's a kid, in his twenties, and some kids don't mature mentally, and gain the true confidence of a man until 30 or later. Whether he'll ever be worth watching again remains to be seen, but he certainly isn't ready to be written off. Yes, Vitali has the heart and chin of a champ, but there's nothing that says he had the same mental toughness at his brother's age. Had Vitali been 5 or 7 years younger when he fought Lewis, he may have caved in with the first solid shot he took...we just don't know. Vlad certainly had better opponents in his boxing career than Vitali, at least until the last few years, just look at their records and compare the names.

Personally, I think the kid was thrown in against some very dangerous opponents just a little too quick, and his managers and promoters are to blame for that.

Well, he's a kid, in his twenties, and some kids don't mature mentally, and gain the true confidence of a man until 30 or later. Whether he'll ever be worth watching again remains to be seen, but he certainly isn't ready to be written off. Yes, Vitali has the heart and chin of a champ, but there's nothing that says he had the same mental toughness at his brother's age. Had Vitali been 5 or 7 years younger when he fought Lewis, he may have caved in with the first solid shot he took...we just don't know. Vlad certainly had better opponents in his boxing career than Vitali, at least until the last few years, just look at their records and compare the names.

Personally, I think the kid was thrown in against some very dangerous opponents just a little too quick, and his managers and promoters are to blame for that.


I agree completely, and about Valuev, he is very large, but seems to lack the physical strength to efficiently move himself around. He does have a good punch output, considering his size, but in terms of coordination and skill, he makes Wlad look like Ezzard Charles lol

I think Wlad has plenty of heart and I scratch my head every time someone criticizes his courage. What Wlad really lacks is nerves; he completely panicks whenever he gets tagged by a puncher.

The problem is, a lack of nerves can be just as irreversible and just as damning as a lack of heart.