View Full Version : In all the fights you've seen, which one was truly the most brutal punishing bout?
Slipx 02-12-2005, 11:02 AM Well, my vote has to goto this old Dempsey bout I saw on classic espn a few years back.
I forget the challenger's name, it may have been Jesse Willard, Dempsey knocked him down like ten times in the first round though, it was very brutal. that fight was wild
straightjab65 02-12-2005, 11:12 AM I'd have to say sugar ray robinson and lake lamotta's 6th fight. Lamotta toke 13 rounds of straight punishments and never hit the canvas. Now a days that fight would have been stopped by round 9. It went down to be known as the saint valentines day massacre. Gatti and ward also had some pretty brutal bouts.
Slipx 02-12-2005, 11:15 AM yeah man I'd love to see that fight!
was that the fight that was perceived in one of my favorite flicks, "Raging Bull" ? when deniro went over to Ray's corner with a vitali klischko-lewis bout face, "Ray." (Ray turns around like he heard a ghost) "You didn't get me down Ray. You didn't get me down." the ref takes charge and begins pushing deniro back. "You didn't get me down ray! You didn't get me down." classic
Tha Greatest 02-12-2005, 11:20 AM ya that was hella weird
i might even order that fight
!! Anorak 02-12-2005, 11:32 AM Don't know either of the fighters involved, but I saw a documentary on the BBC recently (The Fight - interestingly they were condemning TV stations who reveled in it, while showing multiple replays themselves, including slo-mo)
There was a guy who got knocked into the ropes and was trapped there - yet he'd based his career on playing possum. So not wanting to take any chances, the other guy hit him with uppercut after uppercut... until he was dead.
Toller 02-12-2005, 11:48 AM Don't know either of the fighters involved, but I saw a documentary on the BBC recently (The Fight - interestingly they were condemning TV stations who reveled in it, while showing multiple replays themselves, including slo-mo)
There was a guy who got knocked into the ropes and was trapped there - yet he'd based his career on playing possum. So not wanting to take any chances, the other guy hit him with uppercut after uppercut... until he was dead.
sounds like the 3rd fight between Emile Griffith and Benny "Kid" Paret.
!! Anorak 02-12-2005, 06:55 PM sounds like the 3rd fight between Emile Griffith and Benny "Kid" Paret.Yeah, I think that sounds about right, SE.
Tha Greatest 02-12-2005, 06:56 PM When Mercer KO'd Morrison, that was brutal.
AintGottaClue 02-12-2005, 07:02 PM lewis gettign owned by vitali in round 2
Toller 02-12-2005, 07:03 PM you obviously haven't watched much boxing if that's the most brutal thing you've ever seen!!
tyson 02-12-2005, 07:18 PM the most brutal fight I've seen has got to be Ali vs. Earnie Terrell. Ali talked smack and asked what his name was in all 15 rounds, just because Earnie would call him Clay instead of Ali.
Between the talk, Ali punished him with evil in his eyes, and refused to knock him out so he could punish him more.
After that, the last fight between Ali and Frazier...
delaboxeo 02-14-2005, 04:33 PM sounds like the 3rd fight between Emile Griffith and Benny "Kid" Paret.
I've never actually seen footage from that fight, but from what I hear its pretty incredible.
That fight happened way before I was born, so I can't claim that as something I've actually seen :(
Mr. Violence 02-14-2005, 04:37 PM The Thrilla in Manilla....Ali and Frazier close to death still beating the **** out of each other for 14 rounds.
trinidadpr87 02-14-2005, 05:48 PM When Mercer KO'd Morrison, that was brutal.
Yeah thats gotta be up there.
trinidadpr87 02-14-2005, 05:50 PM How about Mancini vs. kim i've never seen it but heard it was brutal.
hollister 02-14-2005, 06:00 PM Don't know either of the fighters involved, but I saw a documentary on the BBC recently (The Fight - interestingly they were condemning TV stations who reveled in it, while showing multiple replays themselves, including slo-mo)
There was a guy who got knocked into the ropes and was trapped there - yet he'd based his career on playing possum. So not wanting to take any chances, the other guy hit him with uppercut after uppercut... until he was dead.
Sounds kind of like that Emile Griffith fight, the one where the guy called Emile a homosexual at the weight in, but not sure.
oldgringo 02-14-2005, 06:02 PM The most brutal fight ever may be Taylor/Chavez I. That was the perfect fight in many ways. all of the action, skill, drama, and suspense you could ever want.
hollister 02-14-2005, 06:12 PM Well, my vote has to goto this old Dempsey bout I saw on classic espn a few years back.
I forget the challenger's name, it may have been Jesse Willard, Dempsey knocked him down like ten times in the first round though, it was very brutal. that fight was wild
That fight was a terrible massacre, when Dempsey took Willard's title, Willard lost some teeth in that fight, I think Dempsey broke his jaw, and some ribs, too. I can't believe they let it continue, even back then. Yeah, while it lasted, it has to be one of the most brutal gloved fights ever.
Nodogoshi 02-14-2005, 09:11 PM I don't know about the most brutal, but there are a few that come to mind. The entire Holyfield-Bowe trilogy for one, also Gatti-Ward trilogy (especially 1), Lewis-Tyson, any vintage Tyson KO, Chavez-Taylor 1. Most brutal I've seen recently is probably Elders-Burton.
Imira 02-15-2005, 06:47 PM Benn vs McClellan. Though I cried when I heard about the outcome, you have to agree that the match was pure mayhem.
marvelous_TG 02-15-2005, 06:55 PM eubank vs watson, watson went in a coma and underwent 6 brain surgeryes, that was a brutal uppercut.
trinidadpr87 02-15-2005, 07:01 PM I havent seen Ruelas vs. Garcia but Garcia died.Was it brutal?Anyone have the fight?
morancito 02-15-2005, 08:13 PM Sal Sanchez vs. Little Red was pretty brutal
FistoftheDallasStar 02-15-2005, 10:19 PM Live bouts watched that were brutal were Chavez vs. Taylor I and Benn vs. McClellan
Mr. Ryan 02-16-2005, 02:27 PM Maybe Meldrick Taylor against Julio Cesar Chavez.
jabsRstiff 02-16-2005, 02:39 PM One-sided brutality = Chavez TKO 11 Edwin Rosario.
Chavez literally tore Rosario apart. There wasn't a part of Rosario's body from the waist up that wasn't horribly punished. I was amazed that Rosario stayed on his feet. He'd have been better off dropping earlier in the fight, because he resembled a zombie in subsequent matches.
butatista 02-18-2005, 01:43 AM The Gatti-Wards were obviously awesome but, as mentioned above, Benn-McClellan was just savage. No one could believe Benn could finish the first round after getting dumped through the ropes, let alone go so many rounds toe-to-toe...two massive punchers wailing on each other for 9 rounds (?). tragic ending with McClellan`s life nearly ended and Benn`s career irreperably damaged (just like Eubank after the Watson fight, Benn never again looked like he was willing to do whatever it took to win).
Pugnacious_Z 02-18-2005, 06:26 AM when mike tyson dropped lewis, LOL, jokes
Slipx 02-20-2005, 01:29 PM benn mclellan no doubt.
yeah I was watching segments of Round Ten in that bout last night, trying to identify the punch that did him in.
I think McClellan's problem derived from the Benn bout for sure, and to the people who were saying in a different thread that Benn didn't land any hard shots,and that the affliction McClellan suffers was from repeated abuse, maybe you weren't watching the same fight. Benn stuck McClellan behind the head like four different times, and in that tenth round after Benn landed that sick right cross, McClellan ducked his head down and Benn threw a full power right hook directly behind his head, right on his brain stem. If you notice this is when McClellan takes a knee, and begins blinking. That is because with that previous punch, McClellan severed his optical nerves.
When I realized this, I was shocked..Then I watched Benn being interviewed and McClellan on the canvas, and felt sick to my stomach. The sport I have a passion for looked bad on that gloomy Paris evening...
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