View Full Version : Roy Jones Return In May!
Truth 02-12-2005, 09:46 AM From:THE HARTFORD COURANT
"...New manager Roger Levitt said Roy Jones Jr. is interested in fighting Harding, perhaps as soon as May at the Mohegan Sun.
"Jones wants it as a warmup to a [Antonio] Tarver revenge [bout] and Eric would like to give it to him," Levitt said. "I've talked to Jones' people and HBO is very interested."
"Jones, the former undisputed light heavyweight champion, lost his titles to Tarver last May.
Harding dominated Telesco through the first seven rounds.
Then Harding (22-3-1, 7 knockouts) started to lose his zip and Telesco (29-6-1, 24 KOs) smelled opportunity. But Harding's lead was too large to overcome.
Harding, who also returned with a new trainer (Joey Rivera), said he didn't have doubts about taking a tough fight after a prolonged absence.
"I'm one of the best light heavyweights in the world," Harding said. "I don't get anything out of fighting guys with records of 15-25. I want to get back to the top as fast as possible."
Kornhusker 02-12-2005, 09:54 AM HAHAHA, Roy better be on his toes, Harding is a real knockout artist.
Stickman 02-12-2005, 09:59 AM Throughout Jones' career, he's depended mostly on his natural talents and his lightning-quick reflexes, without overly worrying about developing conventional ring skills and smarts. When he reached the age where he slowed a little, he got easier to hit, and found that he didn't have what could be called an excellant chin.
If he were to spend 6 months remaking himself as a fighter, getting rid of bad habits and developing good ones, he could dominate again for a couple of years, but if I were him I'd just call it a day and retire.
straightjab65 02-12-2005, 11:04 AM Throughout Jones' career, he's depended mostly on his natural talents and his lightning-quick reflexes, without overly worrying about developing conventional ring skills and smarts. When he reached the age where he slowed a little, he got easier to hit, and found that he didn't have what could be called an excellant chin.
If he were to spend 6 months remaking himself as a fighter, getting rid of bad habits and developing good ones, he could dominate again for a couple of years, but if I were him I'd just call it a day and retire.
I completely agree with you about him having to remake himself. He can no longer dance his way around the ring and frustrate opponents with his lightning fast speed. he has to learn how to be more of a boxer puncher. But I dont agree that he should stay retired. He's 35 but he hasnt taken much punishment in his career besides for his last couple of fights. If he can change his style and rely more on his skills than natural talents he can be champion again.
TyrantT316 02-12-2005, 11:08 AM ^^^ problems is that he "is" 35 and it is hard for someone who has done what he has done (style wise) for so long to just change it in 6 months...he can change some stuff in the gym...but when you actually get in the ring, the old you begins to come back out...
I think with Jones...it is a matter of confidence...he was losing it in the first Tarver fight...lost it in the rematch...and it was no where to be thought of vs Johnson...
Atwa_66 02-12-2005, 11:11 AM I completely agree with you about him having to remake himself. He can no longer dance his way around the ring and frustrate opponents with his lightning fast speed. he has to learn how to be more of a boxer puncher. But I dont agree that he should stay retired. He's 35 but he hasnt taken much punishment in his career besides for his last couple of fights. If he can change his style and rely more on his skills than natural talents he can be champion again.
Yeah, young Jones reminds me of an older Ali. He had great reflexes and was quick on his feet like no other fighter of his time. What separates Ali from Jones is that Ali has unbelievable ring smarts and worked to become the talented fighter he was. Jones fights off the natural talent he was born with and the fact that he is quick on his feet. You are right, he does have to remake himself, and It would be nice to see him fight again
Slipx 02-12-2005, 11:11 AM jones is gonna get punked.
he should stay out, he has a nice hbo commentation job, now he's gonna go on to get punked out again and have slurred speech and lose that.
he's going to have ten warmup fights, watch. against european bums like clinton woods.
on the flip side, maybe big george will come back to HBO. hehe.
Yeah, how can he even think about coming back at his age and after two brutal knockouts in a row? I thought was nearly dead when Johnson knocked him out. He needs to stick to **** fighting 24/7 before he seriously gets hurt.
MikeHunt 02-12-2005, 01:17 PM Bad idea Roy............Take a look, a long look at video of your last two fights.
Did you look at the video's Roy? If you want to be counted out again, fight again.
Walk away .........
Kornhusker 02-12-2005, 01:20 PM At least if he is fighting he isn't commentating.
jack_the_rippuh 02-12-2005, 01:45 PM What Roy Jones Jr. needs is Floyd Mayweather Sr.
What Roy Jones Jr. needs is Floyd Mayweather Sr.
Speaking of Sr's.. Derrick Gainer said a few years back that Roy Jones Sr. was the best trainer in the world hands down.. It's just that hes a simple man who doesnt seek the spotlight, so hes very happy just staying in P Cola training amatuer fighters
Neuraxis 02-12-2005, 02:06 PM Did someone say Holyfield? But then again Hardings showing against Telesco seemed pretty sad, so maybe Jones is onto something here.
jack_the_rippuh 02-12-2005, 02:09 PM Did someone say Holyfield?
Are you trying to say Roy Jones jr. is the real deal?
ELPacman 02-12-2005, 02:10 PM Kornhusker, I think you got the greatest avatar I've ever seen :)
Neuraxis 02-12-2005, 02:10 PM Are you trying to say Roy Jones jr. is the real deal?
As in not knowing when to retire.
Floydmayweather 02-12-2005, 02:10 PM I think if he can change styles he can still win. Roy can still punch hard and real fast. If he can develop a great defense he can do it.
Kornhusker, I think you got the greatest avatar I've ever seen :)
....Goonies
Kornhusker 02-12-2005, 02:26 PM Kornhusker, I think you got the greatest avatar I've ever seen :)
It's the never ending chunk :D
theironone 02-12-2005, 02:28 PM Shame you havn't got one of him doing the truffle shuffle
tyson 02-12-2005, 02:34 PM I've read several boxing writers say that Roy Jones Jr. is one of the 5 smartest people you're ever going to meet.
That might be, but if he fights again, you have to wonder if there's any intelligense behind his smarts...
I don't want to watch such a talented athlete become such a total dumb****! Leave it be, Roy!
joeboxer 02-12-2005, 02:51 PM This is what I see happening. Roy comes out beats harding looks good, people ask for Jones vs Tarver 3 and then Roy gets "injured" and retires. If I were him I would just be trying to end my career on a W.
jayschre 02-12-2005, 02:59 PM I don't think Jones should ever fight again, but I definately think his ass should keep on commentating with Lampley and Merchant. I really like how every time they call a fight Lampley finds some way of bringing up the fact that Roy has gotten KO'ed twice in a row, Please Roy don't come back and win a fight and ruin that for me :D
Btw the Chunk AV and the Clubber Lang AV both ****in rock, Iused to have that Clubber Action figure and I had forgotten all about those damn things until seeing that :)
QueenCity 02-12-2005, 03:43 PM Roy can't fight like he could in his prime anymore, but I guess he can still talk like he is in his prime. But the truth to be told is he shouldn't be in there against Tonya Harding, let alone Eric Harding.
dansweeney 02-12-2005, 04:50 PM He's earned the right to do whatever he wants to do, id like to see him come back focused and fresh and see if he could recapture some of the magic, who knows?
phallus 02-12-2005, 05:09 PM Roy can't fight like he could in his prime anymore, but I guess he can still talk like he is in his prime. But the truth to be told is he shouldn't be in there against Tonya Harding, let alone Eric Harding.
ha ha ha Tonya Harding, ****, i didn't see that one coming :D
Dr.Depravity 02-12-2005, 05:30 PM Harding isnt a slouch. This would be a tough fight for Jones. Especially a comeback fight. Im sure he's getting the desire to fight again. Maybe he will give his corner instructions to stop the fight if he falls off? I know Roy can be overconfident, actually ****y about his abilities. I dont think he stupid though either. Im sure he will have some sort of safety net in place if things go real bad. I know it still doesn't mean he cant get hurt. I think he's going to start being a lot more cautious on how he fights. Like Foreman and Ali in their later years.
england4ever 02-12-2005, 06:04 PM I think roy wants to take his win tally to 50 because thats a good number to stop on. however i feel he is not good enough for tarver. He should stop now rather than ruin his record
vB Martin 02-12-2005, 07:04 PM What Roy Jones Jr. needs is Floyd Mayweather Sr.
so you want his career over, then?
name 1 top fighter besides PBF that Mayweather has done anything at all to improve? The man had a son that was born with some extrodinary gifts. The only thing he did for Floyd was encourage him. Floyd did the rest.
If you doubt me, what is DLH's record with him as a trainer?
Lemme see.
Gatti (w) - Gatti was fighting at 147, too heavy for him. I think everyone agrees that Gatti is exciting to watch, but lacks real skills.
Castillejo (w) - Who?? Sure, he held a belt, but he had never fought anyone of note.
Vargas (w) - Even after being down 745,000 times against Tito, Vargas dominated the majority of this fight. De La Hoya KO'd him with a perfect punch because Vargas had given up on defense. Also, Vargas hasn't been the same since having his ass handed to him by Tito.
Yori Boy Campos (w) - Yori Boy was about 10 years past his prime for this fight. The fight should never have happened.
Mosely (l) - Disputed loss, but it shouldn't even have been close.
Sturm (w) - But we all know that it was a loss.
Hopkins (l) - No dispute here.
So his record under the tutelage of likely the worst major trainer in boxing is 5-2 (really 4-3).
1 Win against a nobody in Castillejo
2 wins against shot fighters in Vargas and Campos
1 win against a fighter who had no business at 147
1 fraudulent win against a nobody
I would say that RJJ needs to stay the **** away from Mayweather if he wants to even consider coming back. Not the he should even consider it. He's been exposed, so unless he goes back to fighting corpses as he did during his reign at 175 he won't have much success.
jack_the_rippuh 02-12-2005, 09:38 PM so you want his career over, then?
name 1 top fighter besides PBF that Mayweather has done anything at all to improve? The man had a son that was born with some extrodinary gifts. The only thing he did for Floyd was encourage him. Floyd did the rest.
If you doubt me, what is DLH's record with him as a trainer?
Lemme see.
Gatti (w) - Gatti was fighting at 147, too heavy for him. I think everyone agrees that Gatti is exciting to watch, but lacks real skills.
Castillejo (w) - Who?? Sure, he held a belt, but he had never fought anyone of note.
Vargas (w) - Even after being down 745,000 times against Tito, Vargas dominated the majority of this fight. De La Hoya KO'd him with a perfect punch because Vargas had given up on defense. Also, Vargas hasn't been the same since having his ass handed to him by Tito.
Yori Boy Campos (w) - Yori Boy was about 10 years past his prime for this fight. The fight should never have happened.
Mosely (l) - Disputed loss, but it shouldn't even have been close.
Sturm (w) - But we all know that it was a loss.
Hopkins (l) - No dispute here.
So his record under the tutelage of likely the worst major trainer in boxing is 5-2 (really 4-3).
1 Win against a nobody in Castillejo
2 wins against shot fighters in Vargas and Campos
1 win against a fighter who had no business at 147
1 fraudulent win against a nobody
I would say that RJJ needs to stay the **** away from Mayweather if he wants to even consider coming back. Not the he should even consider it. He's been exposed, so unless he goes back to fighting corpses as he did during his reign at 175 he won't have much success.
Mayweather will teach him the art of defense..
Dr.Depravity 02-12-2005, 10:36 PM Its not very often you'll hear me say this, but... vB Martin is 100% correct on this one! ;) I think Mayweather is a horrible trainer. Maybe not the worst, but nowhere near the top.
Super_Lightweight 02-12-2005, 10:54 PM There's no reason to think this is true unless you hear Roy saying it. Otherwise, it's best to ignore it.
Roy sped up his decline by damaging his body when coming down in weight and losing muscle mass to do so. The effects of that were physical and mental. Add to that the fact that he is 35, then he will not be looking to change his style.
Roy was the man. He is my favorite fighger ever. However, his best days are behind him and although I would be excited to see him back, it's much more likely that he will lose now then in the past.
BTW...Roy was never "exposed" to have a bad chin. He took good shots vs Tarver and Ruiz, so that would be jumping the gun. I think Tarver caught him with the perfect shot and it just messed him all up from that point on, perhaps. We are not scientists, so let's not pretend to be.
roy is nothing but a punching bag now ..he needs to stay retired
im afraid that roy is now messing up his career record, and mayb his spot in legacy (as far as rank)
not a good move by roy. he's old, he got money, plz stay retired. jim lampley who knows roy very close... said roy PLZ RETIRE
Boxhead2012 02-13-2005, 05:10 PM You can do it Roy. I know you still have one left in you buddy!!!
vB Martin 02-13-2005, 06:37 PM Mayweather will teach him the art of defense..
I think you totally missed my point. The only reason that Mayweather is even a trainer is because he has a son with enough natural talent to not need a REAL trainer.
Name me a good fighter besides PBF that Mayweather has improved? I think we can already rule out DLH.
The Fix 02-13-2005, 06:43 PM roy should hang'em up for good. he shouldnt take this fight but if he wins iam definatley watching tarver-jones2.
vB Martin 02-13-2005, 06:46 PM Tarver v Jones 3, ya mean
bobbyjones 02-13-2005, 06:53 PM this is ridiculous Jones should hang up his gloves because the fact of the matter is that NO ONE cares about Tarver
m00ks 02-13-2005, 06:54 PM Mayweather will teach him the art of defense..
His best defensive advice to DLH was to "take a round off".
The Fix 02-13-2005, 07:00 PM Tarver v Jones 3, ya mean
i tend to forget the second fight ;) ....stupid tarver
Truth 02-13-2005, 07:03 PM i tend to forget the second fight ;) ....stupid tarver
hahha :D Hey Im with you, Im a Roy Jones supporter and was pissed with the 2nd fight. Damn Tarver!!! :mad: :D
Neuraxis 02-13-2005, 07:04 PM Roy should beat Harding, and then retire, thus going out on a win. I can't even blaim him for not wanting to go out after two brutal KOs.
The Fix 02-13-2005, 07:06 PM hahha :D Hey Im with you, Im a Roy Jones supporter and was pissed with the 2nd fight. Damn Tarver!!! :mad: :D
i was shocked when it happened and i almost through an ash tray through my tv screen.
stylepts2 02-13-2005, 11:16 PM Everyone here needs to stop sucking on roy's nuts. Bunch of queers.
Epie2 02-13-2005, 11:26 PM Unless his successive KO setbacks reignited his desire to again dominate, RJJ should keep out of fighting again. It's sad to see a once dominant fighter getting his ass kicked by fellows he could have easily handled just a few years back.
Mr. Violence 02-13-2005, 11:30 PM I hate to see fighters get seriously hurt in the ring...I thought Roy might have been seriously hurt last time when Johnson made his peanut head bounce on the canvas...close call...he should stay retired for his health.
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