according to an article on *********.com by karl freitag hopkins wants to make history and win the lightheavy weight belt from glen johnson after he glides thru eastman.
wow for some reason i thought maybe he was going to take a look at the bussiness side (gbp) of boxing after his 20th undefiet.
you think he has more than a chance against glendoff?

according to an article on *********.com by karl freitag hopkins wants to make history and win the lightheavy weight belt from glen johnson after he glides thru eastman.
wow for some reason i thought maybe he was going to take a look at the bussiness side (gbp) of boxing after his 20th undefiet.
you think he has more than a chance against glendoff?

he gaved a one-sided beating to johnson for 11 rounds until the ref stppoed it, i dont know if Hopkins can make 175, but i have confidence hes going to kick johnsons ass again

good matchup for Hopkins. I would give him less of a chance against Tarver becuase of styles. Against Johnson, even at 175, a very winable fight for Nard. I would make him (Hopkins)the favorite

it's ok IMO. he's been in that division for too long, he should be trying to dethrone those light heavyweights...

Sometimes underestimating opponents is a dangerous thing. Bernard Hopkins is definitely a good fighter, otherwise he never could have all the major belts in the middleweight division. Glenn Johnson had a terrfic last year and he has proven to be a tough opponent for any figther. If Bernard will win the fight, it will be based on a majority decision. :o

B hop is just running from tito sturm and taylor

B hop is just running from tito sturm and taylor


Bernard run from tito? Yeah right, Bernard put an ass whooping on that guy so hard and won every round. You are only as good as your last fight and Tito looked tremendous against Joppy and looked the same against Mayorga. When you are a slugger and can get a guy to go in their and slug it out with you, obviously you are going to look good but when a guy neutralizes your offense and takes everything away with you, you look like ****.

Tito is a slugger more than a boxer and Bernard is a boxer, I favor Bernard at 40 over a 30 year old Tito anyday.

Now, I have to go whip some ass....Have a nice day everybody.

Bernard run from tito? Yeah right, Bernard put an ass whooping on that guy so hard and won every round. You are only as good as your last fight and Tito looked tremendous against Joppy and looked the same against Mayorga. When you are a slugger and can get a guy to go in their and slug it out with you, obviously you are going to look good but when a guy neutralizes your offense and takes everything away with you, you look like ****.

Tito is a slugger more than a boxer and Bernard is a boxer, I favor Bernard at 40 over a 30 year old Tito anyday.

Now, I have to go whip some ass....Have a nice day everybody.


then why would he move up when he can fight and beat tito again for a big payday without leavign the divsion and takign a chance at losing? need i remind u B hop as a light heavy is 0-1. the guy is old and declining i dotn think he makes it past eastmam. still makes no since for him to move up ya he beat johnson before but that was in middle wieght. hopkins is now 40 years old moving up to fight a guy who KO RJJ when B hop lost to him lol

hmmm it's never a good idea to overlook an opponent wonder if hopkins is doing that with eastman

Bernard is just talkin ****.....we all know that the biggest payday out there for him is Trinidad and he knows it. BTW Trinidad is a better boxer than Nard..

Bernard is just talkin ****.....we all know that the biggest payday out there for him is Trinidad and he knows it. BTW Trinidad is a better boxer than Nard..

I agree, I think Tito is a better boxer too. That would be something though...if Nard fought Johnson and he lost! Wouldnt there be a weight issue though? They would have to fight at a catch weight wouldnt they?
Johnson took down Jones and Tarver..who knows, maybe he can beat Hopkins too??

B hop is just running from tito sturm and taylor

Are you ****in stupid man? everytime i see a post and see it sounds really stupid i see the names SturmRules right next to it, Hopkins would destroy Hopkins, Definately Sturm, and Tito.
Just ask JabsRstiff, Why would Hopkins duck from Sturm and Taylor, that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard...

Bernard is just talkin ****.....we all know that the biggest payday out there for him is Trinidad and he knows it. BTW Trinidad is a better boxer than Nard..

That's why Hopkins won every single round when they fought....

That's why Hopkins won every single round when they fought....

Maybe, but Hopkins has grown older, while Tito has just gotten better. I seriously think the outcome would be different in a rematch. Just my opinion though :confused:

I love Hopkins and Trinidad, Trinidad punches harder obviously, but Hopkins is more skilled, would love to see em fight again.

Maybe, but Hopkins has grown older, while Tito has just gotten better. I seriously think the outcome would be different in a rematch. Just my opinion though :confused:


You Tito nuthuggers never cease to amaze me. Get it through your skulls.. BHop is real and speaks the truth .. To quote him "Tito Trinidad is the dumbest fighter that Ive ever fought..hands down"!! Tito can't adapt.. In the DLH fight Oscar was busting him up for the first 8 rounds and he didnt even try to change it up.. Same result if they fight again, Tito dont want none of that

Tito is the same fighter as before, and i believe X would beat him again - same old same old, if he tries to stand toe to toe then Nard gets beat but his skill level is so much higher than Titos, he can adapt very well in a fight whereas Tito can't, he'll outbox Tito

You Tito nuthuggers never cease to amaze me. Get it through your skulls.. BHop is real and speaks the truth .. To quote him "Tito Trinidad is the dumbest fighter that Ive ever fought..hands down"!! Tito can't adapt.. In the DLH fight Oscar was busting him up for the first 8 rounds and he didnt even try to change it up.. Same result if they fight again, Tito dont want none of that

I dont hug anyones nuts..good God, dont you know how to debate without being an idiot?? Ooohhh please, call me some more names :rolleyes:

I love Hopkins and Trinidad, Trinidad punches harder obviously, but Hopkins is more skilled, would love to see em fight again.

Yep, me too! That would be just about the only Hopkins fight I would get all excited about!!! ;)

B level fighter?

I should have known that he doesn't rate Eastman, why else would he fight him?

Here's hoping Eastman flattens him.

Oh wait, Isn't Eastman his 20th defence? duh.

Poetic justice = Hopkins losing his threadbare defence based legacy at the final hurdle against an opponent he underrated.

Have you guys heard about the "ea-syndrome"? Every athlete that appears on a game cover gets f**cked afterwards. Many belive there's a curse or something.
If Hopkins gets demolished against Eastman, I'll belive it too!

Maybe, but Hopkins has grown older, while Tito has just gotten better. I seriously think the outcome would be different in a rematch. Just my opinion though :confused:

So I guess he had won of those 3 year layoff, training camps that makes you so much better.

Also people are saying that Nard should have moved up before now, there are two reasons he couldn't do that, first he wouldn't get his record title defenses and second Roy Jones used to be up there. When that mattered.

I'd like to see him fight tito next and then roy jones to end his career.

I don't think Bernard will any trouble with with Eastman and after that Hop will have tons of options. Personaly I'd like to see him take on Trinidad, but whos knows what kind of crap he would get from Don King trying to get that fight signed. If that doesn't work out I'd also like to see Hopkins/Johnson at a catchweight just because its between a couple guys who spent most of their carrers in mainstream ananemity getting a good payday for staying serious about their craft.

ya, i like trinidad, but i believe DLH won their fight, and Trinidad has great power..yes...but that fight with Mayorga, Mayorga was a blown up welterweight fightin at middleweight for the first time, he just throws and hope his shots land, and he smokes and drinks for training. That does not sound like a big test for Trinidad.

is tito loses and B hop gets passed eastman sturm will be number 1 in all belts except the wbc which he will be number 2 in under jermain taylor. and yes this is true go look for yourself

is tito loses and B hop gets passed eastman sturm will be number 1 in all belts except the wbc which he will be number 2 in under jermain taylor. and yes this is true go look for yourself

Personaly I think they should forget about the alphabetical belts and have Hopkins take on Trinidad and Sterm take on Jermain Taylor, then the winners of those to matches can fight.

Personaly I think they should forget about the alphabetical belts and have Hopkins take on Trinidad and Sterm take on Jermain Taylor, then the winners of those to matches can fight.
That would be damn awesome if they had a little tourney like that. Too bad that it will never ever happen with all the politics that there is in boxing. I hope Hopkins fights Johnson that would make for an interesting fight but what would it do to his reputation/legacy if he lost?

I agree, I think Tito is a better boxer too. That would be something though...if Nard fought Johnson and he lost! Wouldnt there be a weight issue though? They would have to fight at a catch weight wouldnt they?
Johnson took down Jones and Tarver..who knows, maybe he can beat Hopkins too??


i heard glencoffe say on tues night fights ( about a month back, everything gets played later up here on tsn, so i don't know when it really was ) he would consider going down to 168 to fight Hops, if he can make weight. i'm not sure he can still get down there, he's been 175 for a long enough time that he'll really have to sweat to make super middle. if it happens, johnson will do better than his first ime with Hops, but i think he'll still lose. i think Hops still beats Tito too, even at 40. Trinidad's been looking good lately but against MUCH LESS SKILLED guys than Hops

eastman is not a b-fighter, hopkins will beat him but eastman is a good boxer. The only problem with eastman is that he is boring. he only ever does enough and dosnt make his fights as exciting as they could be. This would stop him earning a lot of money even if he was to beat hopkins

i heard glencoffe say on tues night fights ( about a month back, everything gets played later up here on tsn, so i don't know when it really was ) he would consider going down to 168 to fight Hops, if he can make weight. i'm not sure he can still get down there, he's been 175 for a long enough time that he'll really have to sweat to make super middle. if it happens, johnson will do better than his first ime with Hops, but i think he'll still lose. i think Hops still beats Tito too, even at 40. Trinidad's been looking good lately but against MUCH LESS SKILLED guys than Hops

I seem to remember that appearance on TNF myself. I agree that he'd have a hard time making super middle after all this time at 175..that would be tough!
Oh, youre right about that too...B-Hop is much, much more talented than Mayorga..hell, my kid is more talented than him!! :D I would like to think that the 'grudge' of having lost to him before would help fuel titos fire enough to get the job done?? You never know..and with all the hard to believe upsets lately I've come to believe that anything is possible!! ;)

I seem to remember that appearance on TNF myself. I agree that he'd have a hard time making super middle after all this time at 175..that would be tough!
Oh, youre right about that too...B-Hop is much, much more talented than Mayorga..hell, my kid is more talented than him!! :D I would like to think that the 'grudge' of having lost to him before would help fuel titos fire enough to get the job done?? You never know..and with all the hard to believe upsets lately I've come to believe that anything is possible!! ;)


the loss might put a little more fire in Tito's belly, but Hops is one the best boxer - punchers out there, he's really gonna have to get old overnight for Trinidad to beat him. Tito doesn't deal with movers well, cause he can't set down enough to put the power in his left hand, all Hops has to do is show him some angles and be a mover, then use his superior skills, it'll probably be similar to the first fight. i like Trinidad, but i just don't see him beating Hops

bernard said in that article that he wanted to make history by taking lightheavy weight belt from johnson so there's something historical involved. i know he goes down in history for 20 belt wins after he takes apart eastman. man you tito fan atics. i really like tito but you can't be serious with him lasting against hopkins. tito beat a palooka in mayorga.so don't use that as a measuring stick for fighting an art of boxing type like hopkins.
it makes perfect sense to me for him to go after johnsons belt instead of fight with tito. he's interested in his legacy not money. he's set up for life financialy. he doesnt think that much of tito and for good reasons.it would be an easy big money fight for hopkins. that lightheavyweight belt will make him the best ever. then he should retire for a couple years then come back and still be able to beat tito for another belt.

I agree stealhead. Tito was made Hopkins ***** the night they fought. Tito didn`t win a round and pulled off a disgraceful performance. Hopkins owned him, he beat him up. Tito became Hopkins little *****. The only reason Hopkins would not fight tito is because the prospect of teaching the ***** another lesson bores him, and the fight was a bit boring watching it at times. Very uncompetitive at times. Tito ouldn`t hit the guy. Awful performance. No wonder Tito retired, the shaise to me of being owned by Nard, teh shame of being out classed, teh shame of being knocked out, the shame of not having any excuses, the shame of claiming to be able to win, in fact, claiming pound for pound honors then getting hammered. Tito is shameful. he should apoligise to nard for not following up his big predictions, Tito is all talk!

I agree stealhead. Tito was made Hopkins ***** the night they fought. Tito didn`t win a round and pulled off a disgraceful performance. Hopkins owned him, he beat him up. Tito became Hopkins little *****. The only reason Hopkins would not fight tito is because the prospect of teaching the ***** another lesson bores him, and the fight was a bit boring watching it at times. Very uncompetitive at times. Tito ouldn`t hit the guy. Awful performance. No wonder Tito retired, the shaise to me of being owned by Nard, teh shame of being out classed, teh shame of being knocked out, the shame of not having any excuses, the shame of claiming to be able to win, in fact, claiming pound for pound honors then getting hammered. Tito is shameful. he should apoligise to nard for not following up his big predictions, Tito is all talk!


LOL!! That Puerto Rican was running his mouth before the fight bigtime..Not only did BHop rip him apart in the ring he threw the PR flag on the ground.. That was funny.. I was in MSG for the fight.. I was surrounded by Puerto Ricans all over the place.. Ive never seen such classlessness and sore losing amongst a group of people.. As Tito was getting beaten and their frustration grew a bunch of Puerto Ricans in my section were yelling out "Tito get that N***** (the N Word)!!! It was a truly disgusting display of sportmanship from Tito's nuthugger fans!!

I'd rather see him fight Jermain Taylor...I don't wanna see a another fight with Tito because he will just dominate Tito again this time KO him even faster...I dont wanna see him fight Sturm, Sturm can't hit. I don't wanna see him fight Johnson...again. BRING ON JERMAIN TAYLOR.

I'd rather see him fight Jermain Taylor...I don't wanna see a another fight with Tito because he will just dominate Tito again this time KO him even faster...I dont wanna see him fight Sturm, Sturm can't hit. I don't wanna see him fight Johnson...again. BRING ON JERMAIN TAYLOR.

Yep, Taylor would be a great matchup, but he's still young and a bit inexperienced to take on Hopkins right now. It'd be a good fight, but I'd pick Hopkins in 6 or 8. If Taylor has a good manager and promotor, this fight won't ever happen. By the time Taylor is seasoned enough to take Hopkins on, Bernard will be far past his prime, if not retired. Taylor shows great promise, but he still depends a bit too much on his reflexes and natural ability (much like Roy Jones did). An upset could happen if the two meet, but Hopkins is prime right now, and I think he'd be too smart for Taylor to beat.

the loss might put a little more fire in Tito's belly, but Hops is one the best boxer - punchers out there, he's really gonna have to get old overnight for Trinidad to beat him. Tito doesn't deal with movers well, cause he can't set down enough to put the power in his left hand, all Hops has to do is show him some angles and be a mover, then use his superior skills, it'll probably be similar to the first fight. i like Trinidad, but i just don't see him beating Hops

Okay, okay..I gave it some thought and I have to agree :o Tito is powerful and skilled, but DLH, who is also considered a good boxer lost to Nard with a shot to the body..so, having considered that I have to say I may be wrong (see, I CAN do that!! :p ). If Felix could catch him with the right punch then who knows..but he's slick and hard to hit anyway. If Oscar had trouble with him then I can see Felix having a hard time too..although styles do make fights, and Tito and DLH have totally different styles ;)

If Hopkins gets by Eastman and Johnson gets by Tarver in their rematch, I think B-hop should move up to 175 and take on Johnson. He could add Light Heavyweight champion to his resume,he already be Trinidad.

I'd rather see him fight Jermain Taylor...I don't wanna see a another fight with Tito because he will just dominate Tito again this time KO him even faster...I dont wanna see him fight Sturm, Sturm can't hit. I don't wanna see him fight Johnson...again. BRING ON JERMAIN TAYLOR.


so sturm cant hit is why u dont wanna see him fight hopkins? that goes on the top 10 most idiotic post ever. btw sturm can hit ;) he is trained to outbox his oppenets he doesnt seek a KO everytime he steps into a ring