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muay
11-18-2004, 04:09 AM
Would the Evander Holyfield that had classic wars with Bowe overwhelm Roy Jones Jr. who was at his peak vs. Ruiz? or would RJJ be too quick and evasive, running circles and taking potshots at Evander winning a UD?

Your thoughts, thanks.

THRILLAinmanila
11-18-2004, 04:23 AM
Would the Evander Holyfield that had classic wars with Bowe overwhelm Roy Jones Jr. who was at his peak vs. Ruiz? or would RJJ be too quick and evasive, running circles and taking potshots at Evander winning a UD?

Your thoughts, thanks.


Much as I like RJJ, on this one I'd put my money on the prime Holyfield winning by Ud, or decision at best .

stu
11-18-2004, 04:38 PM
I think a prime Holyfield would have just a bit too much power for him.

The Fix
11-18-2004, 06:11 PM
jones wasnt at his prime at heavy. id have to go with holyfeild UD. if the fight were to happen at 175 the outcome may have been different.btw jones was at his prime when he weighed 168

dansweeney
11-18-2004, 06:19 PM
if the jones at heavy against ruiz fought a prime holyfield i think holy would possibly kayo roy, even though roy was so quick. if there was one guy who could pressure him and land alot of punches it was a prime holyfield

Neuraxis
11-18-2004, 06:27 PM
What is the poster talking about? Jones would not stand a chance against a prime Holyfield. And like thefix said, Jones was clearly not at his peak vs. Ruiz. Its like you are trying to make the worst post ever, so I am not go into this anymore.

cple
11-18-2004, 07:02 PM
It could also be said that heavyweight wasn't Holyfield's best weight. He was better at cruiserweight.

muay
11-18-2004, 08:05 PM
What is the poster talking about? Jones would not stand a chance against a prime Holyfield. And like thefix said, Jones was clearly not at his peak vs. Ruiz. Its like you are trying to make the worst post ever, so I am not go into this anymore.


I'm talking about Evander Holyfield up against Roy Jones Jr. at HEAVYWEIGHT. I didn't mentioned in my post PRIME ever, prime Holyfield was at Cruiser and prime Jones Jr. was at Light Heavy, everyone knows that!

tino
11-18-2004, 08:54 PM
What is the poster talking about? Jones would not stand a chance against a prime Holyfield. And like thefix said, Jones was clearly not at his peak vs. Ruiz. Its like you are trying to make the worst post ever, so I am not go into this anymore.

i find this thread interesting , stop insulting this guy and try to say something interesting , not about the klitschkos if you can.

you cant ? ok just shup up.

Neuraxis
11-19-2004, 12:06 AM
I'm talking about Evander Holyfield up against Roy Jones Jr. at HEAVYWEIGHT. I didn't mentioned in my post PRIME ever, prime Holyfield was at Cruiser and prime Jones Jr. was at Light Heavy, everyone knows that!

I wouldn't say a prime RJJ was at LHW. His best wins were not at LHW. I disagree with Holyfield being in his prime at cruiser weight as well. Holyfield is not a dumb slow idot who can't box like Ruiz, so Holyfield would KO him very early on in the fight. Since RJJ was too afraid to fight countless other heavyweights throughout his career, and chose the weakest of 4 heavyweight champions, why in the world would you think that he has any chance in world against Holyfield? What part about RJJ not being able to compete at HW don't you understand?

Neuraxis
11-19-2004, 12:09 AM
i find this thread interesting , stop insulting this guy and try to say something interesting , not about the klitschkos if you can.

you cant ? ok just shup up.

Riiiiiiiiiiight, I see you added a lot to the thread. Get over your obsession with mentioning the Klitschkos in topics that have nothing to do with them. Ok? Thanks.

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muay
11-19-2004, 12:17 AM
I wouldn't say a prime RJJ was at LHW. His best wins were not at LHW. I disagree with Holyfield being in his prime at cruiser weight as well. Holyfield is not a dumb slow idot who can't box like Ruiz, so Holyfield would KO him very early on in the fight. What part about RJJ not being able to compete at HW you don't understand?

Huh?! :confused:

How about outboxing, outsmarting, outclassing John Ruiz? Didn't the same John Ruiz beat Evander? So my post is invalid? What if it was Evander Holyfield (the one that fought Bowe version) out there?

Neuraxis
11-19-2004, 12:19 AM
Huh?! :confused:

How about outboxing, outsmarting, outclassing John Ruiz? Didn't the same John Ruiz beat Evander? So my post is invalid? What if it was Evander Holyfield (the one that fought Bowe version) out there?

You can't compare a shot Holyfield that lost to Ruiz to the one that fought the Bowe trilogy.

muay
11-19-2004, 12:27 AM
You can't compare a shot Holyfield that lost to Ruiz to the one that fought the Bowe trilogy.

Now, we're talking. So, the Holyfield that had a trilogy with Bowe "will KO him (RJJ) early on in the fight." That is enough Neuraxis, you don't need to insult me as if I'm a kid who just watched a few old boxing tapes.

Neuraxis
11-19-2004, 12:31 AM
Now, we're talking. So, the Holyfield that had a trilogy with Bowe "will KO him (RJJ) early on in the fight." That is enough Neuraxis, you don't need to insult me as if I'm a kid who just watched a few old boxing tapes.

I'm sorry but if you think that anything else would happen then you may as well be "a kid who just watched a few old boxing tapes."

muay
11-19-2004, 12:38 AM
I'm sorry but if you think that anything else would happen then you may as well be "a kid who just watched a few old boxing tapes."

I just had these thoughts of RJJ being too quick and evasive for Evander winning a close decision, because he knows the Warrior can KO him. Think about that. Just wanna hear other people's opinion, that's all. Thanks anyway Neuraxis.

Neuraxis
11-19-2004, 12:40 AM
I just had these thoughts of RJJ being too quick and evasive for Evander winning a close decision, because he knows the Warrior can KO him. Think about that. Just wanna hear other people's opinion, that's all. Thanks anyway Neuraxis.

All Holyfield needs to do is land one single power shot and its all over.

muay
11-19-2004, 12:59 AM
All Holyfield needs to do is land one single power shot and its all over.

If he can connect, can't argue with the result. A heavyweight powershot from Evander who beat Bowe compared with those by Johnson's and Tarver's. Call 911.

lsk
11-19-2004, 07:42 AM
A prime Holyfield woud be to much fore Rjj i think

Argentina
11-21-2004, 09:17 PM
Holyfield knocked out Tyson, what makes people think he couldn't RJJ, who was knocked out by light heavyweights, not especially known for their power. Holyfield would win.

superman
11-22-2004, 02:27 PM
im the biggest roy fan ever but again holyfield was just to strong back then.roy wouldnt even bother him it would like johnson jones even if roy was in his prime

Ivansmamma
11-23-2004, 05:25 AM
Prime Jones vs. Prime Holyfield at heavyweight. Jones will be KO:ed.

xoalvinox
11-26-2004, 05:23 PM
Prime Jones vs. Prime Holyfield at heavyweight. Jones will be KO:ed.

Agreed, but in the present, Roy in a 12 UD.

It would be a toss up if both were at their primes fighting @ LHW

paulmmv
11-27-2004, 03:21 AM
holyfield would win

rockroyal24
11-28-2004, 03:38 AM
IMO Roy would have won by UD.

Sure Evander would have a power advantage but so what...... When Roy was in his prime he wasn't getting hit so so much for Evander's power advantage. Roy's hand speed would have kept Evander at bay and he would have just floated to an easy desision.

Great
12-08-2004, 02:56 PM
Evander (prime) by KO.

sssse
12-12-2004, 09:31 PM
Holyfield by KO 4-6

freirui
12-26-2004, 10:09 AM
Holyfield by KO or UD

IRONTIGER
07-08-2005, 04:03 PM
Roy Jones Jr 1989 49-3-0 - The Real Deal Evander Holyfield 1984 38-8-2

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