View Full Version : how much should i run?


robstaaass
07-07-2009, 10:38 PM
just joined a gym and i'm finally recieving consistent instruction, my trainer says to run 3 miles a day if i can. thing is, i have a pretty active lifestyle outside of the boxing gym, i also like to lift weights 3-4 times a week. i'm 6'4 198, with pretty low body fat %. how often/how much should i start off running to get in shape for amateur competition? i'm not discrediting what my trainer says, but just seeing other opinions. i dont know how much is too much, help me out.

P4PKING_2008 :)
07-07-2009, 10:45 PM
I run between 5 and 6 miles every morning.

g0tcha
07-07-2009, 11:00 PM
3 miles a day is like a walk in the park for boxers. i lift weights myself and you gotta change up your cardio if not add it to your routine. weightlifters cardio to burn body fat to show muscles. Boxers cardio to not gas out but most still have **** cardio anyway because majority of elite level boxers wont usually gas out ever. 3 miles is just to get you going. i run a mile alone just to warm up for lifting. ill run 2.5+ miles on non lifting days just for some ****s. you should also be doing some form of hiit. most feel that just long distance running and getting your sparring hours in is enough to get you into good enough shape to last however many rounds you need to go but thats them not me. HIIT will push your cardio vascular system to a whole new level.

RightCross94
07-08-2009, 05:13 AM
i run varying distances 4-5 mornings per week, then do sprinting etc on saturdays

i train at the gym 3-5 nights per week and i rest on sundays

#1Assassin
07-08-2009, 07:51 AM
cut down on the weights. my ultimate advice would be to stop lifting altogheter, but everyone has diffrent training forms. however u are putting more time down on strenght than u should. conditioning always comes before strenght, if you feel u cant keep up with the running, cut down on lifting. dont question your trainer.

Spartacus Sully
07-08-2009, 08:18 AM
3 miles 3 times a week and a long run of 6 on the weekend would be good to start off but youll want to increase that

Tuggers1986
07-08-2009, 08:38 AM
i run between 5 and 6 miles every morning.

bull****!!!

P4PKING_2008 :)
07-08-2009, 08:45 AM
bull****!!!

How so? ..............

Squabbles94806
07-08-2009, 09:09 AM
How much should you run? You should run like your fcukin life depended on it. That is, if you take your boxing seriously.

Pork Chop
07-08-2009, 10:57 AM
My advice is probably going to go against the grain here.
I recommend building up running slowly.
Start off walking and add short stints of jogging.
See where your body's at, see how it reacts to a bit of stimulus and build on that conservatively.

One reason I always had trouble running in the past is because i would listen to advice like "run 3 miles" and I'd go out my first day trying to run 3 miles. Then I'd have a hard time walking or getting out of bed for the following week.

Yeah, you may want to work up to 5 miles a day, depends where you're at and what your body needs to get a good workout. I think 2~3 miles a day with some wind sprints would be awesome though.

I have a book on running that says "don't increase your distance or intensity more frequently then every 2 weeks". I think this is good advice if you want to keep your joints healthy in the long run. Consistency is the key.

bklynboy
07-08-2009, 11:09 AM
bull****!!!

5 miles a day isn't much. I'm 50 years old, lift weights, weigh 195 and do 40-50 minutes of aerobics 3 times a week.

I say aerobics cause my knees can't take the pounding for long anymore. So I mostly use the elliptical and the stairmaster.

Before my knees started to kill me (about 5 years ago) I was doing 5 miles in 37-38 minutes.

And when I was in college I would run 5 miles in under 30 minutes. 5 miles a day is NOT a lot.

bklynboy
07-08-2009, 11:13 AM
My advice is probably going to go against the grain here.
I recommend building up running slowly.
Start off walking and add short stints of jogging.
See where your body's at, see how it reacts to a bit of stimulus and build on that conservatively.

...

I have a book on running that says "don't increase your distance or intensity more frequently then every 2 weeks". I think this is good advice if you want to keep your joints healthy in the long run. Consistency is the key.

The one thing I would add is to dedicate 30 minutes or 40 minutes to your aerobics. If you have to walk, or slowly jog, so be it. Pick a time, 20 minutes to start off. Do it at least 3 times a week if not 4; (Mon, Tues, OFF, Thurs, Fri, OFF, OFF) and when it gets easy bump it up to 30 minutes, then 40 minutes. Once you're at 40 minutes start increasing your intensity.

takeahit
07-08-2009, 01:43 PM
There is not correct answer to this question. This really turns into a bragging competition, so let me do it: I run an average of 30 miles per week. Monday is a short/sprint interval day (5 miles), Tuesday OFF, Wednesday is a medium day (7-8 miles), Thursday is a short day (4-5 miles), Friday OFF, and Saturday is a long day (9-13 miles), Sunday OFF. The longest I've run in one session thus far is 18 miles. And the next day I ran 4. On top of this, I lift 6 days a week (rotating muscle groups/focus obviously).

Now, I'm not a boxer (I'd like to start training, soon though). So, I can't say how this affects a boxer in training. I can say however, that you can always push yourself harder and further than you think. 3 miles a day is A LOT for someone who isn't used to distance running. It's not for me (but it was when I originally started). So, start off with your trainer's suggestion, and then challenge yourself. ****, it should be a personal challenge everytime you train, step into the ring, run, whatever. When I get on a treadmill, I make sure I'm the first one on, and the last one to get off. I'm rambling now, so forget it. But just start off gradual and build up. You can still lift the same amount if you schedule correctly, and you should definitely incorporate sprints/higher intensity cardio as one dude mentioned. Best of luck homie!

supRa
07-08-2009, 05:23 PM
holyfck!!!!!!!
yall do 3 4 5 miles
damn... lol... i just started last week at 6am runnin a mile.. and do the stairs... runnin up and down

robstaaass
07-08-2009, 08:19 PM
for the advice.

Dynamite Glove
07-08-2009, 08:43 PM
training for boxing is not about distance.

it's about intervals.

get an everlast timer, they're basically waterproof. when that 30 second buzzer goes off, you go into a full sprint. when the vibration stops, you slow into a shuffling ass jog until the next round begins, etc etc. when your stamina improves, throw some mini-sprints in with the 2 mins and 30sec before your 30second big sprint. that will simulate combinations. do this, and you will develop monstrous stamina for boxing.

King James III
07-09-2009, 01:29 AM
lol everyone on this forum seems to be able to run 5-6 miles a day....Riiight lol. **** i barely do 3 or 4 every other day but Ima beast in the ring

eazy_mas
07-09-2009, 02:17 AM
the best boxers run about 10 mile per day every day so if you want to be the best you have to train like the best.

JACK D. RIPPER
07-09-2009, 03:13 AM
My advice is probably going to go against the grain here.
I recommend building up running slowly.
Start off walking and add short stints of jogging.
See where your body's at, see how it reacts to a bit of stimulus and build on that conservatively.

One reason I always had trouble running in the past is because i would listen to advice like "run 3 miles" and I'd go out my first day trying to run 3 miles. Then I'd have a hard time walking or getting out of bed for the following week.

Yeah, you may want to work up to 5 miles a day, depends where you're at and what your body needs to get a good workout. I think 2~3 miles a day with some wind sprints would be awesome though.

I have a book on running that says "don't increase your distance or intensity more frequently then every 2 weeks". I think this is good advice if you want to keep your joints healthy in the long run. Consistency is the key.

This is an excellent answer. :boxing:

verbz
07-09-2009, 03:30 AM
the best boxers run about 10 mile per day every day so if you want to be the best you have to train like the best.

this is not correct. elite level boxers built their gas tank over a number of years. a begginer has no business running 10 miles a day. 25-30 mins 3 times a week is a good starting place and is something you can realistically do, dont worry about the distance just get out and run at a pace that is taxing but sustainable for the time period.

tomhead69
07-09-2009, 04:10 AM
i just run for about an hour i duno how many miles cause its just down a path and forrest but i htink it wouldbe about 3 miles not sure with sprints inbetwen if i feel i aint breathing hard enough

bklynboy
07-09-2009, 09:38 AM
i just run for about an hour i duno how many miles cause its just down a path and forrest but i htink it wouldbe about 3 miles not sure with sprints inbetwen if i feel i aint breathing hard enough

Walking along, not in too much of a hurry, is about a 20 minute mile pace; walking at a no-nonsense pace is roughly a 15-16 mile pace. An old man jogging along is about 12 min/mile. A decent pace is 8 minute mile; a good pace is 6 minute mile; elite is under 5 minute/mile.

So if you're running for an hour you are doing at least 5-6 miles, probably more.

Tuggers1986
07-09-2009, 09:43 AM
I'm not saying that's far at all. I'm just saying I don't believe P4P king runs it. He's full of ****!!!

bklynboy
07-09-2009, 09:46 AM
training for boxing is not about distance.

it's about intervals.

get an everlast timer, they're basically waterproof. when that 30 second buzzer goes off, you go into a full sprint. when the vibration stops, you slow into a shuffling ass jog until the next round begins, etc etc. when your stamina improves, throw some mini-sprints in with the 2 mins and 30sec before your 30second big sprint. that will simulate combinations. do this, and you will develop monstrous stamina for boxing.

I don't know about training to be a boxer. I'm sure there are days you work on your stamina and others that you work on intervals. One interval training I did, yrs ago, was 70 second 1/4 miles, rest 90 seconds and another 70 second 1/4 mile and so on. We did 5 miles (20 sprints). The first few 1/4 miles were a joke, the last few were torture.

I also think that a boxer would want some long-distance road work simply to build up his endurance, if for nothing else, to improve on his interval training. A teen-ager, twenty-something year old guy should be able to quickly get to 5 miles in 40 minutes (3mths if you're already in good shape) and then quickly get up to 7 or 8 miles in 40-50 minutes a few months later.

Again, I've never trained to be a boxer, but this doesn't seem out of sorts to me.

oc9979
07-09-2009, 09:53 AM
i just started on saturday. and i have done only 2 miles.
damn i cant wait until i get till 5 miles

oc9979
07-09-2009, 09:56 AM
when i used to play baseball i used to run around the infield where the grass start for the outfield.
we ran the first couple time doing it in 60 second which it was pretty easy until we got it down to 35 second which it was almost impossible.

Tuggers1986
07-09-2009, 10:00 AM
i just started on saturday. and i have done only 2 miles.
damn i cant wait until i get till 5 miles

If you have an Ipod get Nike+

http://nikerunning.nike.com/nikeplus/

I have been using it for months now and love it.

When I first started running I ran half a mile stopped. Now I can do 6-8 mile quite comfortably. It's the same as everything. The more you do it the better you get.

Another thing I've noticed about running is a lot of it is mental and not physical. I could run 3-5 miles when I was 240+lbs and in **** shape just because I refused to give up. 99% of the time when you feel you need to stop you actually don't. You just WANT to stop

oc9979
07-09-2009, 10:16 AM
If you have an Ipod get Nike+

http://nikerunning.nike.com/nikeplus/

I have been using it for months now and love it.

When I first started running I ran half a mile stopped. Now I can do 6-8 mile quite comfortably. It's the same as everything. The more you do it the better you get.

Another thing I've noticed about running is a lot of it is mental and not physical. I could run 3-5 miles when I was 240+lbs and in **** shape just because I refused to give up. 99% of the time when you feel you need to stop you actually don't. You just WANT to stop



i agree. i went to the gym to run like 2 months ago. and i was not running at the time. my goal was to run 4 miles the first day. i tried my hardest and ran 3.5 miles but i have to be in the mood. which im working in my state of mind because if i cant push myself to my goal. what am i going to do when im in a ring and i have 2 rounds left and im tired. i cant quit

Tuggers1986
07-09-2009, 10:17 AM
i just run for about an hour i duno how many miles cause its just down a path and forrest but i htink it wouldbe about 3 miles not sure with sprints inbetwen if i feel i aint breathing hard enough

www.mapmyrun.com

It should not take you an hour to run 3 miles. Especially with sprints

JACK D. RIPPER
07-09-2009, 10:45 AM
I'm not saying that's far at all. I'm just saying I don't believe P4P king runs it. He's full of ****!!!

I agree Cartman, he's full of it.

Tuggers1986
07-09-2009, 11:54 AM
Here's a run I just finished 10 minutes ago.

You guys that are into running and have an Ipod should definately check out Nike+

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1281/latestrun.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1281/latestrun.th.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/latestrun.jpg/)

sukhenkoy
07-09-2009, 01:25 PM
If you have an Ipod get Nike+

http://nikerunning.nike.com/nikeplus/

I have been using it for months now and love it.

When I first started running I ran half a mile stopped. Now I can do 6-8 mile quite comfortably. It's the same as everything. The more you do it the better you get.

Another thing I've noticed about running is a lot of it is mental and not physical. I could run 3-5 miles when I was 240+lbs and in **** shape just because I refused to give up. 99% of the time when you feel you need to stop you actually don't. You just WANT to stop

This holds true for almost all forms of physical exercise, not just running.

P4PKING_2008 :)
07-09-2009, 03:15 PM
I'm not saying that's far at all. I'm just saying I don't believe P4P king runs it. He's full of ****!!!

I don't believe you exercise at all tbh. But, nothing can be proved either way. I will upload a fight video in a few weeks if I get on to embarass my haters.

P4PKING_2008 :)
07-09-2009, 03:15 PM
I agree Cartman, he's full of it.

:lol1: :wave: I know who you are now. :rofl:

eazy_mas
07-09-2009, 03:22 PM
this is not correct. elite level boxers built their gas tank over a number of years. a begginer has no business running 10 miles a day. 25-30 mins 3 times a week is a good starting place and is something you can realistically do, dont worry about the distance just get out and run at a pace that is taxing but sustainable for the time period.

it true but I want to say in other words that you have to push yourself to do an extra mile after while ot do it quicker. If you dont go near you limit or over it abit you wont improve

but ofcourse I wont say start running 10 miles per day for a person who just beging

Tuggers1986
07-10-2009, 11:23 AM
I don't believe you exercise at all tbh. But, nothing can be proved either way. I will upload a fight video in a few weeks if I get on to embarass my haters.

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1281/latestrun.jpg

Check the username in the top right of that pick dip ****

P4PKING_2008 :)
07-10-2009, 11:31 AM
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1281/latestrun.jpg

Check the username in the top right of that pick dip ****

Make me chubster.

John125
07-10-2009, 11:34 AM
i run 4 miles a day and finish in about 35-36 minutes, which means im pretty slow for an 18yo haha. I agree its mostly mental, on days when im feelin it i can get low 34 high 33, but other days i end up in the 37's. Also depends on your aproach, you cant start to fast...ect

danny stash
07-15-2009, 03:04 PM
Switch days from a 3 mile jog to about 6 or 7 600 meter dashes with rest in between. Need to build stamina in the legs with the long slow jogs and built anaerobic cardio with the sprints for flurrying in the ring.

Sugarj
07-16-2009, 06:26 AM
I'm around the 11 and a half stone mark 5:9 and am trying to improve my 10k (six and a quarter miles) running times in a measured road run. Last weekend I was at 41 minutes 7 seconds but I'd like to get under the 40 min mark. The local elite can better this by a few minutes.

The 10k is a good run for boxers, quite fast and covers a similar completion time to twelve boxing rounds for fairly fit athletes.

alza1988
07-16-2009, 07:04 AM
I just learned from rosstraining.I'll copy some from the article and paste the usefull parts I think you should find usefull

STRENGTH TRAINING FOR FIGHTERS
Train the body as a unit, not a collection of small pieces
Focus most of your time around compound movements
Develop a strong core
Incorporate variety into your strength program
Do not limit yourself to one modality
Target multiple strength qualities
Steer clear of failure when training for pure strength
Never sacrifice skill and conditioning for strength work
Focus on quality over quantity
Keep strength workouts brief, 2 to 3 days per week
http://www.rosstraining.com/articles/strengthtraining.html

You'd Better Do Your Roadwork
http://www.rossboxing.com/thegym/thegym1.htm

Boxing1986
07-17-2009, 05:36 AM
You run what you can handle.

If you can only do 3 miles then start with that and build up slowly so you dont cause injury.

But you run until your legs are weak if you love boxing.

-Hyperion-
07-17-2009, 11:34 AM
lol @ all the marathon gold medalists in here................

Marlin26
07-17-2009, 04:27 PM
well i dont really have any advice other than just run, dont let people tell you that you cant do this and that becuase when people cant do something, they tend to tell others that they cannot also. No one else knows YOUR limits, dont listen to people and there "scientificly proven everyones limit is the same" bull****, the only way you can find where your body's limit is at, is in the gym, out on the road and in the ring.

Im 15, i started boxing a year ago. back when i first began i could'nt run a mile without having to stop, i was in terrible shape, 5"8 145 lbs with like 23% bodyfat. a year later and im still 5"8 but now im 131 lbs and 10% bodyfat.

Everyday since i began i did'nt count my miles or how long i ran, i just picked a route and started going. i later discovered my route was 3 miles and somehow i had managed to run it every day considering that i once believed 1 mile was my limit.

what im tryin to get across is if your coach tells you to run 3 miles. do 4 miles! boxing is about heart and determination. If you have the heart to do more than people ask and the determination to follow it through everyday then you will go far in boxing.

My current running schedule looks like this
Monday: Interval running
tuesday: 3 mile run
wensday: hill sprints
thursday: 3 mile run
friday: Interval running
saturday: 3 mile run
sunday: rest

Go out there and run for success, dont let other people tell you that you cannot! Belief is the thing that takes people far! dont be scared to follow your dreams! now go out there...and run.