Lets Start off by saying: *PEACE*
Lets keep this forum friendly ^^, we do not need people (I won't mention names) too keep going on and on with their pointless sarcasm after we proposed to have a discussion.. Lets stick to the topic and we can create a name calling thread if we feel the need :P..

Right Jokes aside, lets hear views on, the best possible mixture for the ring! Some people are going too say that it might be a little of everything, or its going to be Tae Kwon Doe & Greco Roman, etc etc..

Lets try get a grip on what would be THE ABSOLUTE MOST POWERFUL MIXTURE too grace or gracie the ring.. (<------ HAHA Joking RELAX!)

Come guys, styles and reasons ^^?

Take it Easy
Lukas

(resisting temptation to put capoiera due to cool spinny moves making opponent dizzy)
if i had to narrow it down to 2 then i'd have to say muay thai and bjj. these both give out a lotta destruction without demanding much power behind the executions. therefore, once you actually put some power behind it then yer gonna cause a decent amount o' damage.

also, the majority of strikes and submissions from these 2 styles tend to have the advantage of suprise.

I think I wrote a article about this topic somewhere?

Well, BJJ is definatly in my list, Muay Thai is super explosive, however i somehow feel an apt kick boxer might stand a better chance.. BUT thats just my opion, i would go with Kick boxing and BJJ..

Lukas

i think it all depends on the fighter and his size. A taller fight might be better of with some kickboxing experience but a smaller or more stocky guy would be better off with muay thai. Thats just my opinion. I also believe BJJ is a given to either of those to.

Well, Would BJJ be a Necessary requirment? or would a substitute such a Greco Roman work better, cos i have some extremely good Grecos on the mat..
And is boxing a bad choice in MMA?

Lukas

I have swome boxing experience. It was actually the first thing I learned and i believe it is highley effective in MMA. It cannot be the only thing you do but its nice to pack a punch.

I train boxing, greco and some BJJ.

boxing, muay thai, wrestling and no gi submission grappling would make a good combo in my opinion.

Nobody said you could only use 2.

Yes its nice to pack a punch, but im sure you would need some training that will help u pack a good kick too.. Greco is actually better on the ground than BJJ, so a Greco with BJJ finishing moves is probaly the most lethal combo for the ground, and Mauy Thai and Boxing is probaly most lethal for stand up..

So in choice is Muay Thai, Boxing, BJJ and Greco, if u have lotsa free time and are extremely committed :P..

Lukas

It is important to be able to handle oneself on stand up and ground at this age.

BJJ has shown to be the leader on the ground, although wrestling styles do gain dominance in the grapple, they cant finish as well. I believe this dominance comes mostly from hours of grapple, without a need to finsih. BJJ on the other hand is all about the finish, whether you are at top or bottom. I therefore wouldnt go against wrestling techniques, so long as BJJ is first choice on the ground and is leanrt well.

For stand up, I would go stricly with Muay Thai. Kick Boxing and even more so Tai kwon do focus a lot on kicks, Boxing on hard direct punches, yet a feel Muay Thai combines everthing that works in a balanced way. Punches Elbow strikes, knees strikes. It is a full martial art, and on the stand up is complete. One can always practise and get better.

I wouldnt suggest training Muay Thai with a closed mind, thinking nothing else but what you are taught through this art will work, yet i do believe it should be the focus. As i believe BJJ should be the focus.

This said, as a general explanation... in what i believe, could be rendered total meaningless, because, everybody is different, and different martial arts will be suited too different people. Even as far as Muay Tai and BJJ are concerned, a fighter who should be knowledgabe at both, should know where his greater strength is, ground, or stand up, so that he has a direction and a plan, should he try take trhe other fighter down, or fight blow for blow. Although the best fighters should be a ble to do both, one is often more prevalent. This ofcoarse will also depend on your oponents training and strengths, although this... is not always known in a real fight.

Thank You
Tino

Id rather die on my two feet...
Than Live on my knees...

they only problem i have with twd is its so formulated around looking cool (how many spinning kicks can u throw) i like a more direct approach like kick boxing. It doesnt look as fancy but it gets the job done. Same with muay tai

You know i was watching this cage fighting tapes, and i can honestly say i have seen round houses (spinning kicks) actually work, to my dis belief i have seen a KO by it... I feel if used in the right situation a round house could level and opponent..
Btw, wen standing, which would be of more importance, a kick or a punch?

Lukas

Lukas uve seen quite a few roundhouse knockouts cause its quite a good highlights package, its definately not very common, and also very dangerous if caught. It isnt the most practical kick, yet if done right could knock your oponent out easily. Yet i would never rely on a roundhouse kick as the success rate isnt that high and can easily be taken advantage off, so i agree with the previous post in the greater practicality of kick boxing and muay thai.

box or kick...?
well a kick is obviously more forceful but it takes alot longer to be that way. A little stop kick isn't forcful but its quick, but a side kick can be really powerful even if blocked. On the other in the time you can get off a side kick you could probably get 3-4 jabs or crosses in. You can't really say, you just got to mix it up

It all depends on our body type and personal abilities. Also what you believe works comes in to play. If you don't feel comfortable with a certain style then you shouldn't use it. I prefer the Greco tie up and clinch fighting to the Muay Thai style. It fits me and I feel it's effective for my style of fighting. I also don't like being on my back in a fight where some guys I train with jump to guard every chance they get. There's really no "right" or "perfect" style for mma, just what works for the individual.