http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/01/06/jealous.husband.ap/index.html


is it any wonder why these dickless lunatics are the only state to have this right. it's time they excercise it. i'm sick of texas. give this state and it's nutjob inhabitants the **** back to meh-heeko.

well according to Creed's logic on crime and punishment, that's about the right sentence

well according to Creed's logic on crime and punishment, that's about the right sentence


Explain where you got that idea. Because I think the death penelty is wrong? Because I think maditory drug sentences are bull****?

The dude got 4 months for killing his wife. Thats bull****. It was at least manslaughter 1, which is 8-25 years.

Explain where you got that idea. Because I think the death penelty is wrong? Because I think maditory drug sentences are bull****?

yeah that's about it

yeah that's about it

I think they are wrong because they target minorities and the poor. Justice is supposed to be blind, isn't it? Someone shouldn't be sent to jail for 20 years for being caught with a gram of pot. However, there have been cases like that. Forgive me if I think that is bull****.

and you gotta love texas' reason for the light sentence......"sudden passion". hahahaha!!! dumb ****kickin ****wads.

I think they are wrong because they target minorities and the poor. Justice is supposed to be blind, isn't it? Someone shouldn't be sent to jail for 20 years for being caught with a gram of pot. However, there have been cases like that. Forgive me if I think that is bull****.


How does that target minorities and the poor? Do you think that's the only ones who use drugs??

How does that target minorities and the poor? Do you think that's the only ones who use drugs??

80% of manditory drug sentences are given to minorites. Doesn't that seem a little high to you?

Also, when it comes to the death penalty, thats pretty clear. 3 of 4 people on federal deathrow is a minority. Doesn't that seem a little strange to you? Also, what about the fact that if you kill a white man you are more likely to get death than if you kill a black man? According to data from the United States Department of Justice, from 1976 through 2000, 74 percent of the homicide victims in Mississippi were black. But of the 220 victims for whom people were sentenced to death in Mississippi from 1976 to the present, 72 percent of them were white.

That alone should prove that the death penalty is unfair. Let alone the fact that its also economicaly bias, that it costs more to kill people that to house them for life. Yes, thats right, it costs MORE of your tax dollars because of extra guards, seperate parts of the prisons to house them, and the extra money spent on appeals. So, not only does it make humanitarian sense, it helps keep the prison system in the black.

Do have any reasons that the death penalty should be allowed? I am sure you do, and I have arguments to tear thoses reasons to ****. Now, I am going to go smoke a bowl and plan to kill a hooker. :439:

No matter if you are rich or poor, black or white, if you do something illegal, you should get punished for it. Period. Maybe the facts speak for themselves. Maybe the majority of lawbreakers are minorities.

Don't get me started on minority stuff. I've been thru it myself. And I'm white. What ever happened to "you break the law, you suffer the consequences"? What the hell does race have to do with it?

No matter if you are rich or poor, black or white, if you do something illegal, you should get punished for it. Period. Maybe the facts speak for themselves. Maybe the majority of lawbreakers are minorities.

Don't get me started on minority stuff. I've been thru it myself. And I'm white. What ever happened to "you break the law, you suffer the consequences"? What the hell does race have to do with it?

The that you assume that just because I am against the death penalty means that I am somehow I am against punishment is frankly, arrogance to a level that rivals my opinions on MMA, and Puritys opinions on music. Fortunatly for Tony and myself, our opinions don't affect who lives and who dies. Also, you have made your opinions on the fact that you feel the treatment minorities get and the fact that you feel you are treated unfairly because you are white. Please don't go there. There are several things that I really could say that this point but it would only cause pointless fighting, it would offend you, and make me look like a bastard dispite the fact that I have a valid point.

Also, the fact that we have a death penalty hurts the healing process. People convice themselves that they will feel better once the person that did this horrible thing to someone that they loved is dead. They carry that hate with them for 20 years, until he is finally put to death. Then, they still feel awful. Whats worse, there is no one left to blame. They are left with a hollow empty feeling inside and finally have to face and come to terms with something that happends 20 years ago.

And if the person that murdered thier loved one doesn't get the death penalty? They feel cheated, like the system failed them. How is that justice?

You made the comment that I am assuming....I didn't assume anything and state that assumption.

You are the one assuming.

None of this had anything to do with minorities, economic levels or the death penalty. You started all of that talk, which had nothing to do with the original article.

Actually, Curly started it by saying that I would some how be in favour of the man who only got 4 months for killing his wife. Just because I am against the death penalty doesn't mean I would be that stupid. Just because I feel drug addiction is a sickness and not a crime doesn't mean I would be soft on someone caught trafficing drugs across the border or selling them to school kids.

I didn't start anything, My name was brought up in the second post in this thread, for reasons that still elude me.

Someone lock this thread, it is pointless. If you don't lock it, at least move it to the retard forum.

I really hate to agree with CReed.

I really hate Texas and now I have another reason. I agree with Purity that we should let Mexico have'em.

The that you assume that just because I am against the death penalty means that I am somehow I am against punishment is frankly, arrogance to a level that rivals my opinions on MMA, and Puritys opinions on music. Fortunatly for Tony and myself, our opinions don't affect who lives and who dies. Also, you have made your opinions on the fact that you feel the treatment minorities get and the fact that you feel you are treated unfairly because you are white. Please don't go there. There are several things that I really could say that this point but it would only cause pointless fighting, it would offend you, and make me look like a bastard dispite the fact that I have a valid point.

Man, off to a terrific start there...

Also, the fact that we have a death penalty hurts the healing process. People convice themselves that they will feel better once the person that did this horrible thing to someone that they loved is dead. They carry that hate with them for 20 years, until he is finally put to death. Then, they still feel awful. Whats worse, there is no one left to blame. They are left with a hollow empty feeling inside and finally have to face and come to terms with something that happends 20 years ago.

Wow, how do you know it works that way for ALL of them? How is it possible to make such a generalization? Oh, wait... the death penalty is punishment, it's not the end of an after-school movie.

And if the person that murdered thier loved one doesn't get the death penalty? They feel cheated, like the system failed them. How is that justice?

You know why? Because it's people screaming that the death penalty is wrong and inhumane and so on. Seriously, with those last sentences, you show that you don't understand. Death penalty is punishment. The system failing them is someone getting off scott free in the face of evidence, and again, I'm glad to know you've either: talked to everyone that might apply or generalize like crazy.

You know why? Because it's people screaming that the death penalty is wrong and inhumane and so on. Seriously, with those last sentences, you show that you don't understand. Death penalty is punishment. The system failing them is someone getting off scott free in the face of evidence, and again, I'm glad to know you've either: talked to everyone that might apply or generalize like crazy.

No, but I do understand something about human behaviour my friend. People won't deal with the loss of thier loved one while the murderer is alive. They repress thier feelings inside of dealing with them. However, you refuse to address my main point, that it targets minorities. And until the same percentage of whites convicted of 1st degree murder sentenced to death is the same as blacks, mexicans, indians or any other minority then it should be aobolished. Its racist, plain and simple. Oh yeah, thats not me trying to generalize, its me being right.

No, but I do understand something about human behaviour my friend. People won't deal with the loss of thier loved one while the murderer is alive. They repress thier feelings inside of dealing with them. However, you refuse to address my main point, that it targets minorities. And until the same percentage of whites convicted of 1st degree murder sentenced to death is the same as blacks, mexicans, indians or any other minority then it should be aobolished. Its racist, plain and simple. Oh yeah, thats not me trying to generalize, its me being right.

Oh, you're RIGHT.

Okay, that's it, I'm not discussing anything with you again. You obviously can't discuss, you just have to be right. You're almost as old as I am, I would have figured you'd be a bit more mature by now.

oh come on stew! he's just sayin that **** to egg you on. sure, creed sucks at it but you get the point. bring on the arsenol!!

Just for you, Curly:

No, but I do understand something about human behaviour my friend. People won't deal with the loss of thier loved one while the murderer is alive. They repress thier feelings inside of dealing with them.

However, you've stated that people want to see the people die, but that we shouldn't do that.

Easy solution? Well, aside from your means of covering both sides of an argument to talk down to people, I think that making the death pentaly a quick punishment would do quite well.

However, you refuse to address my main point, that it targets minorities. And until the same percentage of whites convicted of 1st degree murder sentenced to death is the same as blacks, mexicans, indians or any other minority then it should be aobolished. Its racist, plain and simple.

Okay, you make the statement that minorities are INTENTIONALLY targeted.

Do you also believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy and the Pentagon was hit with a missle?

Oh yeah, thats not me trying to generalize, its me being right.

That's how you end an argument? "...it's me being right."?!

I can't think of an appropriate rebuttal to such an assinine and arrogant statement.

No, but I do understand something about human behaviour my friend. People won't deal with the loss of thier loved one while the murderer is alive. They repress thier feelings inside of dealing with them.



People have trouble dealing with closure when the death penalty is given. They don't feel they can move on until the person who killed someone they loved has been appropriately punished.

It's also called forgiveness. Most don't want to forgive. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be punished, because you can have someone punished and still forgive them, but to move on, you have to go thru the stages and the last one is forgiveness. It's a hard one when someone you love has been killed/murdered.

Texas, you can ****ing leave the union. And take all those red states with you.