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Southpaw16BF
06-18-2009, 04:24 PM
A weekly boxing list compiled by Michael Rosenthal. This week: In honor of the Wladimir Klitschko-Ruslan Chagaev RING heavyweight championship fight on Saturday in Gelsenkirchen, Germany, the 10 greatest European heavyweights ever.

1. Max Schmeling, Germany (56-10-4, 40 KOs): The former champion knocked out a young Joe Louis in 1936.
2. Lennox Lewis, England (41-2-1, 32 KOs): Arguably the best heavyweight since Larry Holmes.
3. Tommy Farr, Wales (81-30-13, 24 KOs): Held his own against the best heavyweights in the world in the 1930s.
4. Joe Bugner, England (69-13-1, 41 KOs): Had a successful career during the 1970s and ‘80s, an era deep in good heavyweights.
5. Vitali Klitschko, Ukraine (37-2, 36 KOs): The tougher of the brothers has a remarkable KO ratio.
6. Wladimir Klitschko, Ukriane (52-3, 46 KOs): The more-athletic of the brothers has won 10 in a row.
7. Ingemar Johannson, Sweden (26-2, 17 KOs): His three-fight series against Floyd Patterson is legendary.
8. Frank Bruno, England (40-5, 38 KOS): Held one of the major titles until Mike Tyson took it from him.
9. Henry Cooper, England (40-14-1, 27 KOs): Came close to upsetting a young Muhammad Ali in 1963.
10. Karl Mildenberger, Germany (53-6-3, 19 KOs): The southpaw competed favorably with the top heavyweights of the 1960s.

Note: Bob Fitzsimmons was born in England but not included here because he left the country as a child and fought his entire career in Australia and the U.S. Joe Bugner was born in Hungary but immigrated to the UK as a child.

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D-MiZe
06-18-2009, 04:26 PM
Bob Fitzsimmons is still British though?

Born here and moved as a young child, just like Lewis?

:bigeyes:

Obama
06-18-2009, 04:37 PM
I'd definitely move Wlad and Vitali over Farr and Bugner. And I'd move Schmeling below Lewis. I'd probably switch the order between Wlad and Vitali, especially if Wlad beats Chagaev. Other than that, the order is fine. Is there really no better choices for the last 2 guys? They were B level.

Personally I rate the following guy(s) over them:
(List may be updated as I think of more)

Primo Carnera (Actually would move him ahead of Farr)
Paulino Uzcudun

Kid McCoy
06-18-2009, 04:56 PM
Bob Fitzsimmons is still British though?

Born here and moved as a young child, just like Lewis?

:bigeyes:

Fitzsimmons never came back though. He ended up a British-born, New Zealand-raised American citizen who had his first fights in Australia.

TheGreatA
06-18-2009, 06:01 PM
Tom Sharkey piled up a good record in the late 1800's and he was born in Ireland.

mickey malone
06-19-2009, 05:33 AM
I gave up reading this mag years ago...
If you want a real good laugh.... Check out their 100 greatest punchers of all time..
Most of the posters on this forum are far more knowledgable than their editorial team..

boxxerr
06-19-2009, 05:43 AM
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black.ink
06-19-2009, 07:54 AM
I'd personally have Lewis number 1 and the Klitschko's above Bugner. I don't know enough about Farr to have an opinion on him.

Miburo
06-19-2009, 09:07 AM
Lewis should unquestionably be above Schmeling.

TheGreatA
06-19-2009, 09:37 AM
I'd personally have Lewis number 1 and the Klitschko's above Bugner. I don't know enough about Farr to have an opinion on him.

Had wins over Max Baer, Tommy Loughran, Larry Gaines, Red Burman, Walter Neusel, Ben Foord. Lost close decisions to Joe Louis and Jim Braddock which many thought he won.

GJC
06-19-2009, 07:54 PM
Had wins over Max Baer, Tommy Loughran, Larry Gaines, Red Burman, Walter Neusel, Ben Foord. Lost close decisions to Joe Louis and Jim Braddock which many thought he won.
Often quoted that he was unlucky against Louis, whilst I think Farr gave a great show I think the verdict was correct. The Braddock fight though should have gone Farr's way I believe

GJC
06-19-2009, 07:55 PM
I gave up reading this mag years ago...
If you want a real good laugh.... Check out their 100 greatest punchers of all time..
Most of the posters on this forum are far more knowledgable than their editorial team..
The Don King MW tournament did it for me re Ring.

Infern0
06-19-2009, 07:56 PM
Lmao at schmelling being number 1, and lol at bruno making the list!

CCobra
06-20-2009, 07:10 AM
Lewis is among the greatest Heavyweights of all time, regardless of his nationality. If I had to rearrange the list using the fighters they used I'd have it:


1. Lennox Lewis
2. Max Schmeling
3. Tommy Farr
4. Wladimir Klitschko
5. Joe Bugner
6. Vitali Klitschko
7. Ingemar Johannson
8. Frank Bruno
9. Henry Cooper
10. Karl Mildenberger

Obama
06-20-2009, 11:38 AM
I don't quite see how Farr or Bugner could be considered better than either Klitschko. Really, even if they retired today. Both guys were quite good, but were never considered an elite fighter in their era. Klits on the other hand are the ONLY elite fighters in their era.