Seems a few here are in need of assistance of how to be a pimp. I figured this would be a thread in which those of us with the pimp hand could impart our wisdom.

What do you reckon, Purity?

i've tried deac. i even tried gettin cesaro laid a year ago.

I am the alpha male here.

Well when Bzob's not here

Dammit dude, I have to try!

I posted this somewhere else but I'll do it again.

"You need confidence period to score any woman. But you see confidence is only one part of keeping a wicked powerful pimp hand. To have the pimp hand you need to realise you do not care. The power of the ***** is entirely contigent on the man wanting it badly enough that he will do anything to get it. Once a man realises he does not need it and infact, really doesn't care if he gets it, that means the woman loses the power of the *****. Ergo, she will infact have to work for it."

I am not saying be a rude cunt and blow them off either. I am saying you need to be supremely confident in yourself and realise that the end of the day, you really do not give a **** about her or anything. You gotta be confident around your bros too. You will lose alpha male status real fast if it shows you don't carry yourself well around others.

If it's any consolation, it's taken a long time to develop the pimp hand and even now my skills are sharpening. You gotta think of it like you do MMA - you invest the matt time you will see the gains.

**** -- maybe we should give homework assignments like Tyler Durden, Purity? That way they can take baby steps to pimpdom?

I'm the alpha male here

well when bzob or curly aren't here.

The true alpha male does not state it. His presence is already known.

The true alpha male does not state it. His presence is already known.

Exactly. It's always been unspoken that I am the real alpha male of this forum.

I train 6 days a week, have a wife and 2 kids, work for 2 mma web sites, operate 80K lbs trucks, can weld metal while singing any megadeth song ever written, driven at over 160 mph, have fought in front of hundreds of people, can make my lips vibrate and I drive a 1985 caddi.......

tell me how to be more pimp.

mullet

You're married son.

You're days of pimpin' are over.

Well no, not exactly.

You can wield the pimp hand over the wife. If you're training six days a week and the missus ain't complainin' yet, you must be doing something right. Hopefully it doesn't involve the dishes, dressing up for her or her wearing a strapon.

You know what WIFE stands for? Washing, Ironing, ****ing, Etc.

I work fo low pay, I have some extra weight to me, I have no car and I owe 10000 grand in student debt. How do you get more pimp then that.

If you're training six days a week and the missus ain't complainin' yet, you must be doing something right.


can make my lips vibrate

proper respect is key. and when i say that, i mean only give the proper AMOUNT of respect to a woman. a good rule of thumb is to simply give them the same amount that they give themselves. the more you interact with people, the easier it is to tell how much self-respect one has. so once you've determined a girl's self-respect, give the equal dosage.

if she dresses, wears makeup, and talks in a fashion that says "attention whore" then chances are, she has low self respect. other indicators are constant gossiping, the hand over the mouth while eating or smiling, assuming that you're a male shovanist and treating you like one before even getting to know you, fake tits, self-righteous career attitude when she's still a student, too much makeup, or consistent regretful rambling about her ******* ex-boyfriend.
if you see any of these traits used in excess then make her the butt of most of your jokes, create a smart ass nickname for her immediatley, point out flaws on her, laugh AT her & not with her, and do other stuff that tanner 'sack of ****' rhoden is notorious for doing (wet willies, finger in her nose, etc).

I work fo low pay, I have some extra weight to me, I have no car and I owe 10000 grand in student debt. How do you get more pimp then that.

Meh. That's just details. The pimp is in your hand.

Do you know why your arm is as long as it is Gman?

It is precisely that long so you can find your balls.

The girl I'm working on right now is named dallas. First thing out of my mouth was "Sounds like a strippers name".

The girl I'm working on right now is named dallas. First thing out of my mouth was "Sounds like a strippers name".

Good call.

Did she still talk to you after that? :)

It's amazing what you can get away with so long as you say it with a grin or a smile or a laugh.

proper respect is key. and when i say that, i mean only give the proper AMOUNT of respect to a woman. a good rule of thumb is to simply give them the same amount that they give themselves. the more you interact with people, the easier it is to tell how much self-respect one has. so once you've determined a girl's self-respect, give the equal dosage.

if she dresses, wears makeup, and talks in a fashion that says "attention whore" then chances are, she has low self respect. other indicators are constant gossiping, the hand over the mouth while eating or smiling, assuming that you're a male shovanist and treating you like one before even getting to know you, fake tits, self-righteous career attitude when she's still a student, too much makeup, or consistent regretful rambling about her ******* ex-boyfriend.
if you see any of these traits used in excess then make her the butt of most of your jokes, create a smart ass nickname for her immediatley, point out flaws on her, laugh AT her & not with her, and do other stuff that tanner 'sack of ****' rhoden is notorious for doing (wet willies, finger in her nose, etc).

Good point Purity.

Giving a woman too much respect and she'll think you want to **** her or something. Remember: disinterest = no power of the *****.

Always remember - we can only chase what runs away from us.

Man I've also eaten a starburst candy that was in her mouth and she didn't seem to care. I don't think there is much I could do to **** this up.

actually the only thing I haven't done is make fun of her for being indian. She laughes when ever I make fun of my buddy harry who is east indian for being indian.

Man I've also eaten a starburst candy that was in her mouth and she didn't seem to care. I don't think there is much I could do to **** this up.

If I was a betting man, I would bet you'd find a way.

god I hope not. I need this bad. She even puts up with the fact that I sing 80's tunes while in systems.

I'm here to learn.
Age: 21
Height: 6'3
Weight: 219 last night, dropping
Occupation: None, graduating university in the spring
Skills:
Knows a little bit about everything or can make it sound like I do. Can pretty much bull**** someone into believing I am there mother, especially women since I find most of them are very gulible.

Downside:
Probably too nice and give people too much respect. I always want to help out which leads to me being labeled as the nice guy. Nice guys don't get the ***** though. Still slightly overweight.

Intangibles:
Been told I have an awesome smile. The whole "I'm a kickboxer/fighter" thing can be a turn off or turn on too females. Some think it is cool (such as this chick from the past weekend) others think it's stupid. I don't drink, which means I end up driving everyone home at the end of the night. This also means I can choose who I drop off last and set up a closing scene in that regard.

That's what you have to work with. Tell me how to use it effectively.

:nonono:

hockey, step 1:
start drinking.

Giving a woman too much respect and she'll think you want to **** her or something.

not only that but she'll see that there's no challenge with you. you see, women don't lie when they say that they want a guy to treat em right, open doors for em, care about how their day went, and be sweet to em. they don't lie when they ask for that....

....they just leave out the other HALF of the request. and that half is that SHE wants to be the ONE that made you like that. women love attention. they wanna be special. so a women is satisfied when she realizes that her, and only herself, brings out the best in you. and sooooooooo it's our job to help kickstart this lil personal challenge of them by being total *******s.

i know, it sounds crazy. but men shouldn't make the 2nd biggest mistake and that is assuming that women think the same way we do.

i know, it sounds crazy. but men shouldn't make the 2nd biggest mistake and that is assuming that women think the same way we do.

Wh0rd!

So true man... so true....

hockey, step 1:
start drinking.

Oh yeah and remember drugs are bad, mmk? hahahaha...

height: 5'10
weight: 217
hair: unknown
eyes: blue
occupation: none
skills: none

people say i'm funny and nice. i've had chicks all through high school up until now with skanks on the internet i could bone but i'm too much of a coward to do it. i've had this pretty hot asian chick that wants to bone me for like 2 months now but i keep telling her about how i **** on myself sometimes and have masturbated with banana when she brings it up. i'm such a loser.

don't even try with this one deac. just pretend you didn't even see the post.

haha why

ok fine.
cesaro, step #1:
be attracted to women. do not ask for step 2 until you've convinced us that you are.

i'm attracted to them, i spend a good bit of time trying to get them nude on webcams. i have this white trash skank with a kid that wants to be fed meat too

http://members.aol.com/SPHYNCTO85/skank.jpg
i can post a pic of her tits too if you want

http://members.aol.com/SPHYNCTO85/l.jpg
there's the asian chick

i don't know why i'm not boning them

Ok Purity, they need a homework assignment.

HOMEWORK:

You boys need to talk to a good looking chick today. One that is a complete stranger. And no you cannot just say hi. You need to strike up a conversation. A proper conversation, and you have to leave her smiling.

Nothing more.

You do not need to get her phone number. You just need to chat to her and leave her smiling. Even Cesaro can manage this one.

i'm attracted to them, i spend a good bit of time trying to get them nude on webcams. i have this white trash skank with a kid that wants to be fed meat too

http://members.aol.com/SPHYNCTO85/skank.jpg
i can post a pic of her tits too if you want

http://members.aol.com/SPHYNCTO85/l.jpg
there's the asian chick

i don't know why i'm not boning them

You are either gay or clinically insane. Neither would suprise me.

nah, i'm not those..i just never follow through with boning chicks.

nah, i'm not those..i just never follow through with boning chicks.

Funnily enough, a very common thing.

A large portion of guys entertain the chase more than the **** and once they know they can have her, get bored, lose interest and don't pursue it until they're hard up for a root.

This is the male equivalent of being too nice to a woman and she'll lose interest.

very true. i've had plenty of sitches like that. it's usually when a chick fronts and acts like all sexy at first. by the time you get in her in bed with her clothes off, she's just lays there cause she has no idea what to do. ****in lame. chicks that act sexy need to BE sexy. when yer ready to ****, yer expectin eachother to be equally freaky.
if yer gonna by shy in the sack then be shy outside of the sack too. then at least i'm more excited to show you a good time.

Ok Purity, they need a homework assignment.

HOMEWORK:

You boys need to talk to a good looking chick today. One that is a complete stranger. And no you cannot just say hi. You need to strike up a conversation. A proper conversation, and you have to leave her smiling.

Nothing more.

You do not need to get her phone number. You just need to chat to her and leave her smiling. Even Cesaro can manage this one.
Did this on the weekend with 4 girls. What's next.

Rule 1 - you do not have to return all calls and text messages.

Case in point, I just got a text message from a chick I'm seeing on friday night and planning on shagging senseless. She sent this message along to say she's thinking of me and looking forward to it. Sweet message, nice chick. The part of me that was raised to be a nice guy and polite screams to reply back something nice and mutual.

But I won't.

Why?

Because it's too easy. Little islands of happiness in a sea of bitterness. Is what it's all about. Women do not want smooth sails and easy catches. They like adventure, rollercoasters, unpredictability. Yet they tell you they want a guy who is stable. Hahaha what lies.

Which brings me to -

Rule 2 - never assuming you will get a straight answer from a woman.

Like Purity said, we think logically. You ask us a question, you get an answer. They don't. Recognise.

Did this on the weekend with 4 girls. What's next.

so far, so good with you man. you've even got a target to hone in on. keep us updated on how that goes and just try ta follow through with what we talked about in that other thread.

Rule 1 - you do not have to return all calls and text messages.

Case in point, I just got a text message from a chick I'm seeing on friday night and planning on shagging senseless. She sent this message along to say she's thinking of me and looking forward to it. Sweet message, nice chick. The part of me that was raised to be a nice guy and polite screams to reply back something nice and mutual.

But I won't.

Why?

Because it's too easy. Little islands of happiness in a sea of bitterness. Is what it's all about. Women do not want smooth sails and easy catches. They like adventure, rollercoasters, unpredictability. Yet they tell you they want a guy who is stable. Hahaha what lies.

Which brings me to -

Rule 2 - never assuming you will get a straight answer from a woman.

Like Purity said, we think logically. You ask us a question, you get an answer. They don't. Recognise.

eeeyup. i never return calls right away, if at all. but it's not cause i'm tryin to play hard-ta-get or anything.....i just don't like talking on the phone. period! ****, i do it all day for a living! that's like a mcdonald's worker coming home to grill on the bbq!!
also, most chicks talk about the same **** and it's ****in boring. i try to avoid being fake around chicks so i'd rather not PRETEND that i'm giving a rat's ass on what she's saying. my convos idealy consist of:
1. intro & how ya doin
2. what she's doing (either right now, or whenever i wanna see em)
3. close the deal
4. hangup.
it's the same with dudes. i don't wanna talk t' ya!

i think allison's the only exception. she's actually fun to talk to but she's doesn't really act like other chicks. plus her dog cracks me up.

but, seriously, my roomate talks for HOURS and HOURS and HOURS on the phone with chicks. i bring home 10X as many as he does and even when he DOES bring some home, they're ugly and irri-****ing-tating. skip the convos. get very acquainted with that red button on yer cell phone.

Purity, you set the next homework assignment once they've done the first.

well i'd recommend them to report the outcome of the first before determining the 2nd. numero dos could go in many different directions based on uno.

Ok Purity, Decon, what should be a realistic goal of mine for thursday?

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eeeyup. i never return calls right away, if at all. but it's not cause i'm tryin to play hard-ta-get or anything.....i just don't like talking on the phone. period! ****, i do it all day for a living! that's like a mcdonald's worker coming home to grill on the bbq!!
also, most chicks talk about the same **** and it's ****in boring. i try to avoid being fake around chicks so i'd rather not PRETEND that i'm giving a rat's ass on what she's saying. my convos idealy consist of:
1. intro & how ya doin
2. what she's doing (either right now, or whenever i wanna see em)
3. close the deal
4. hangup.
it's the same with dudes. i don't wanna talk t' ya!

i think allison's the only exception. she's actually fun to talk to but she's doesn't really act like other chicks. plus her dog cracks me up.

but, seriously, my roomate talks for HOURS and HOURS and HOURS on the phone with chicks. i bring home 10X as many as he does and even when he DOES bring some home, they're ugly and irri-****ing-tating. skip the convos. get very acquainted with that red button on yer cell phone.

Good point. I don't mind phone calls though.

That being said, it ties back to what I said before about chasing. That is to say you have to stop chasing. :)

You are either gay or clinically insane. Neither would suprise me.

hahahaahahahahaha

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LMAO!!!! That made me laugh so hard I spit on the screen!!!

Ok Purity, Decon, what should be a realistic goal of mine for thursday?

first, pick up the vibes from her. remember, picking up a girl's vibes/emotions are the first step ALWAYS.

if she's still the same as before then you need to make yer move before the end of the night and do it just like i said in that last thread.
if it seems like she's more into you this time then still make yer move......only make it with some passion. do it like yer in a movie. reason being, the deal's already closed.....might as well have some fun with it.

now if her vibe seems a lil like she's less attracted to you then make an excuse for yer behavior the night before. remember, if she's less attracted to you on thursday then it's because you didn't make a move on her the last time. if that's the case, yes, you ****ed up BUT you can still fix it. like i said, make an excuse. DON'T BRING UP THE EX!!! use something else. take yer pick:
-career uncertainty
-i was drunk and i don't drink much
-family issues
-saw some dude get run over by a car earlier and i felt bad about it
whatever!! just make the excuse but don't spell it out longer than 5 minutes. make it KEY THAT YOU'RE OVER IT NOW and then remember how you acted the last time. obviously it was in a manner that she was semi-attracted to so carry on.
after a couple hours of this then you should be fine so proceed to either my first or second suggestion.

Ok Purity, Decon, what should be a realistic goal of mine for thursday?

ask her what you get for $20

ttt...

Hhahahaha ****. What a goddamn gong show this is gonna be. I can see it already after a convo with Justin and Paul tonight. They pretty much left me out and chatted about how would be best to set me up with. I see a crazy night ahead. BUT GODDAMMIT I AM ****ING WALKING AWAY WITH A MOTHER****ING NUMBER THAT'S FOR DAMN SURE. Females aren't gonna know what hit them. I have my target though. Time to seek and destroy.

Remember - failure is not an option.

But it is a strong probability

This thread is so funny. Its like watching a movie.

This thread is so funny. Its like watching a movie.


Do you mean those low budget, B rated corny high school/college jock/nerd movies?

This thread is so funny. Its like watching a movie.

You're cute. Puriity, can I keep her?

you can borrow her :)

You can both go **** yourselves.

I'm hoping I won't have to do that tommorrow.

You can both go **** yourselves.


Could I see it??


*My homo-zoo-necro-sexuality level is grownig with giant steps after a hamster sodomy*

You can both go **** yourselves.

haha! i love that sassy lil zing. you gotta see it in person. her eyes get all bulgy and wide. cuter than ever!!

You can both go **** yourselves.

Mmm... I like a woman with fire in her belly.

you like a girl with diarrhea?

better in than out, right?

I volunteer to push her poop in... Chocolate covered.

you like a girl with diarrhea?

I like a woman with spirit is what I am getting at, you syphallitic closet homophobe.

I volunteer to push her poop in... Chocolate covered.
Hahaha, is this the same guy who would rather watch Norah Jones fall asleep than gag her with his penis?

So my report is that I got now where. Talked to Jenn about various things that I didn't the other day when she was hammered but she had to work at 10pm and only stayed an hour. And man were the clubs slow after, full of sausage and heafers. On the up side both Stabilo and Strada kicked ass on stage.

you get her #?

Hahaha, is this the same guy who would rather watch Norah Jones fall asleep than gag her with his penis?

Norah Jones is the only woman that might make me listen to her and care about her feelings... But at the end, poon tang is all a Llama wants.

hahaha!!! Llama cares about nora's feelings!! awwwww poooooky bear.....

That girls is so freaking beautiful, mang... Her hair, her lips... She made me realize that some chicks have heads.

why am i a homophobe

you are the opposite of a homophobe.

90% of homophobes are liberace ghey ****ers in the closet, so yeah. He fits the description.

i don't really care, it's just a change up for once..usually it's homo, not homophobe.

No I didn't get her number. I wasn't feeling it from her exactly enough to do that. It was her first shift at work and looked nervous about it. She was always asking me the time every 5 minutes. Found out she's gonna be a massage therapist though.

I need to work on my pimp hand. I walked the native girl home today and got nothing.

Hockey - you suck.

holy ****! this thread is too much!!! lol, I am not sure if you guys realize it, but it cries out "I've been hurt so I will now use women to no end!!! boo hoo".

...don't get me wrong, I feel the same way if this was "I hate men, lets **** with their heads" thread as well.

but when does the playing end?

everyone's been hurt so that's a given. i never said i'd hurt in return. as a matter of fact, i don't. like i said, i'll respect a girl as much as she respects herself. and i certainly don't like to use women because i've been hurt. i like to use women because i like to get laid. while we're at it, i like to use my digestive system cause i like to eat. and as long as nobody's hurt in the end.....where's the problem?

guys that can't get over their hurts will NEVER go anywhere.

In my eyes, only a very small percentage of women show genuine respect anyway. By that, I mean I can count them on one hand.

Are you talking about self-respect here? I guess that depends on how you look at it. A man that drinks a 1/5 on a daily basis and makes an ass of himself but thinks he is the **** does not fit my perception of having self respect either

Kato with the viginal verbal buzzkill.
yay Kato!

Are you talking about self-respect here? I guess that depends on how you look at it. A man that drinks a 1/5 on a daily basis and makes an ass of himself but thinks he is the **** does not fit my perception of having self respect either

who r we talkin about here?

Why can't men and women be nice to each other? Why the stupid mind games, trying to best one another? Just be nice to each other. If they aren't nice to you, they aren't worth your time.

true dat mom... Purity I was speaking in general...

bear... thanks for loving me ;)

Purity I was speaking in general...


well in general, 1 out of every 10,000 people drink a 5th of alchi EVERYday and make asses of themselves. but if a woman wants to get involved with a guy like that, then she can deal with her own consequences. me, personally, if i were the woman i'd tell him to pound sand.

why the stupid mind games? women play mind games. women are emotional. men are direct. if it were up to us, we'd walk up to girls and just say "hey i wanna **** you." but in the real world, that would probably work about 1 outta every 1,000 times. but by us playing along with the stupid games that you all like to see men do then our odds are usually around 1 outta every 3.

if you try ta be just nice, you get a whole lotta friends. yeah that's what i want. i want a bunch of girls to look at me like i'm their brother. that way they can come to me with all their emotional baggage and issues and then go spread their legs to some other dude that's treats em like ****. sorry but i'm only nice to the people i respect and respect is earned on an individual basis.

Men play mind games too.
Don't kid yourself.

the typical man does not initiate them. and if he does, they're nowhere NEAR the size of a typical woman's.

Because mindgames are fun. Everybody likes them.

the typical man does not initiate them. and if he does, they're nowhere NEAR the size of a typical woman's.

Wh0rd!

I tried being nice. Didn't work so good. Now I play the game and I must say I am a happier man for it.

I just realized something. White girls suck. **** them.

like i said before, i'm not an ******* to all girls and i don't try to **** every chick i see. if i think that a girl's really straight up, can carry a good conversation, is cool to be around but isn't attracted to me then i don't mind being her friend. keep in mind that these chicks are rare BUT that doesn't mean i just dismiss them if i can't get laid.

I know some chicks I would love to **** that aren't hot.
I know some chicks that are hot I will never ****.
There's more too it than appearance although that is largely a factor. I'm never a prick to these women btw, I am always honest. That being said, I refuse to be taken for a ride -- which is what playing the game is all about.

Your next homework assignment - read the following website and relate one instance where you have found yourself on the friends ladder when you thought you were on the real ladder.

http://www.intellectualwhores.com/masterladder.html

I think its all relative and it has nothing to do with stereotypes of women and men. Its people in general. I have seen Men fall in love with useless pieces of crap that some call women, I have seen Men that can't take "NO, I am not interested" as an answer. I have seen how men trash intelligent honest women because they are not interested and they are honest about it without being hurtful. It seems that either way... women are either *****es or hos.

How many men do you think could handle the fact they might be dating a cool chick that has previosly had her share of 'bootie call" name list when necessary? a very very few. Not all men are willing to believe that women may have the same needs and desires as them.

Update
So last night I hang out with a few friends, expected to be home early, some had to work and I needed to study. We go out to this bar for a while and are almost ready to leave around 11pm when more people show up including Jenn. So Justin motions for me to talk to him, so I go over to him and he says "I was talking to Jenn yesterday and she was asking about you, she thinks you are cute but just need to be more aggressive with her". So I do that, pretty much kick some people out of the way so I can sit next to her and it's all good from there. She holding my hand and ****, resting her head on my shoulder. Get out of there at 2am go to some other chicks place and watch shrek till like 4:20. After that everyone goes home, most are sober enough to drive home by now so all I have to due is drive Jenn home. Pull into her driveway at 4:30.......well the goodnight kiss lasted until about 6:50. Then she invited me in. No sex, which is cool because I know she respects herself atleast a little and that she didn't just want a one night stand. So basically it's 2pm and I just got home. Very cool night I have to say and I got the "you better ****ing call me" line when I was leaving so there will be more in the future.

I think its all relative and it has nothing to do with stereotypes of women and men. Its people in general. I have seen Men fall in love with useless pieces of crap that some call women, I have seen Men that can't take "NO, I am not interested" as an answer. I have seen how men trash intelligent honest women because they are not interested and they are honest about it without being hurtful. It seems that either way... women are either *****es or hos.

How many men do you think could handle the fact they might be dating a cool chick that has previosly had her share of 'bootie call" name list when necessary? a very very few. Not all men are willing to believe that women may have the same needs and desires as them.

On the contrary, I'm looking for all the women I can find with the same needs and desires as myself. :)

Update
So last night I hang out with a few friends, expected to be home early, some had to work and I needed to study. We go out to this bar for a while and are almost ready to leave around 11pm when more people show up including Jenn. So Justin motions for me to talk to him, so I go over to him and he says "I was talking to Jenn yesterday and she was asking about you, she thinks you are cute but just need to be more aggressive with her". So I do that, pretty much kick some people out of the way so I can sit next to her and it's all good from there. She holding my hand and ****, resting her head on my shoulder. Get out of there at 2am go to some other chicks place and watch shrek till like 4:20. After that everyone goes home, most are sober enough to drive home by now so all I have to due is drive Jenn home. Pull into her driveway at 4:30.......well the goodnight kiss lasted until about 6:50. Then she invited me in. No sex, which is cool because I know she respects herself atleast a little and that she didn't just want a one night stand. So basically it's 2pm and I just got home. Very cool night I have to say and I got the "you better ****ing call me" line when I was leaving so there will be more in the future.

Finally dude! Be aggressive.

The man with nothing to lose has everything to gain!!!

Went out with her last night along with a few friends. We got talking and she was telling me how she's never taken the time to get to know a guy before and has always just rushed into things in a night or two. She said she doesn't want to do that anymore. She also said that she liked what happened on tuesday when we were together but wants to pretend like it didn't happen and just back up and start over. She went off about how she is scared of relationships and has never been in one before.

I basically told her that I respect her opinion, gave her a few compliments and asked her if she wanted to hang out and get to know me. She said yes and I said that I would like that as well. Funny thing was that most of this talk was going on while her friend is puking a few feet away. Jenn is a very nice girl but has this really wild side that makes me a bit sketchy about things. But I guess I can only see how things go after christmas since I am taking off for a few weeks on tuesday.

Hockey, you need some wild times. Live it up son.

I'm not a wild person.

I did get Jenn to come over and watch a movie last night after she was done work. She makes the cutest noises when she sleeps. Going out with the gang again tonight before everyone takes off for christmas.